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Characters that need nerfs:
Lucio - reduce healing, increase hitbox, increase cd on alt fire
Mcree - increase flashbang cd, roll only reload 2 bullets + number of eliminations/assists in the last five seconds
Reinhardt - increase cd before shield recharge
Widow - increase scope charge time, decrease firing rate
Tracer - increase blink recharge time
Bastion - decrease transformation speed
Characters that need buffs:
D.VA - decrease crit box (thats ALL she needs, shes fine otherwise)
Winston - increase tesla gun damage
Zenyatta - harmony orb stays on targets longer after los, increase healing
Zarya - increase hp, increase shield duration on allies, reduce alt fire damage slightly
Symmetra - just redo her completely, make her ult a normal ability
kys, there's already a thread for every fucking ow character
>>339422131
Are there not enough overwatch threads already? Jesus Christ.
Nah, that's too many nerfs. Just nerf Lucio's HP a bit.
Hanzo.
Way too fucking powerful in his shots for
>Shoot a mile passed the person and get a kill
I'm a shitty new player and I'm mowing down tons of people with Bastion, he seems complete EZ mode. Once you find a decent spot with a good line of sight his turret mode is unstoppable, it's way too accurate for the damage it deals.
>>339424657
I don't get him. Why is he allowed to one shot people but Widowmaker can't?
>>339422131
>Symmetra - just redo her completely, make her ult a normal ability
If you want Defense to become even more cut and paste, sure.
>>339424825
Male privelege
>>339425038
I say, let her be. This is the best shit in the big roster games, some heroes are just awkward but situational and fucking horrible to met when done right. It makes it more fun.
>>339424825
Because it's not hitscan and you can't accurately hit people for super far or headshot them constantly, or finish them with a second shot a half second later.
>They will never take Lucio's wallgrinding mechanic and put it on a damage character
Barely related but what sticks out to me about this onslaught of Overwatch fan art, porn or not, is the complete dearth of Zarya
almost forgot she was in this game until OP mentioned it
on topic, Lucio's health seems a little high for what he does, as does Widowmaker
>>339425932
Makes sense actually. Still fucking annoying to turn a corner and get instantly gibbed by a Hanzo just spamming arrows in the general direction of enemies.
>>339422131
>thinking bastion needs a nerf
But seriously, where's that pic from I wanna watch an overwatch gangbang
>/v/
>on game balance
>ever
it's sad more than anything else
>>339426406
Because she'd be a bitch to model since she's wearing such heavy gear.
She's also extremely unattractive compared to all of the other female characters sans maybe Mei, and Mei took a considerable amount of time to get a nude model as well.
Imo, reaper needs 200 hp, zenyatta needs 200 hp, Lucio needs less hp, mccree needs to have a flashbang that doesn't make you stop moving, and mei needs to just fuck off completely.
>>339424657
Hanzo cant evwn aim, it's all RNG arrow.
Bastion just needs his transforming animation to be a bit longer. Make the turret more of a risk. I'm not even sure why he's allowed to heal in that form. I was surprised to find that out.
Torb needs less aimbot shit with his turrets. A proper defense makes it incredibly difficult to get it.
>>339422131
>The Lucio nerf
No
>Leave game to get away from stacked enemy team
>It puts me back into the same game
>Leave
>This repeats 4 times
Please stop I just want to play
>>339422131
Every time I see a thread like this, I feel pretty sure that I know which characters OP does and doesn't play.
son they're not going to balance this shit
the design lead is Tryhard Tigole
its balanced for esports, you think you fucking matter?
>>339430061
Let's hear it.
>>339422131
>Nerfing Bastion
>Buffing Winston
Other than that, relatively decent.
>>339422131
Winston buffs
HAIf they just buffed his damage against turrets, Bastion included, that would be legit.
McCree is the one who needs to be looked at before anyone else. In a game that's supposed to be based on changing heroes depending on the situation, he's the one character you always want on your team. In close quarters, flashbang + fan dominates almost everyone. At medium range, accurate fire from his revolver chips away at their health. At long range, high noon can send the entire opposing team scrambling for cover, or even wipe them all out if they weren't attentive enough. Other heroes just have problems with the numbers and fine details, McCree is the one class that's fundamentally broken on the design level. He doesn't need tweaks, he needs to be reexamined entirely.
>>339424690
because you're a new player and nobody knows the maps or how to play.
>>339422131
>Lucio - reduce healing, increase hitbox, increase cd on alt fire
NO
>Winston - increase tesla gun damage
NO
>Zenyatta - increase healing
NO
Zarya - increase hp, increase shield duration on allies, reduce alt fire damage slightly
FUCK NO
Nerf junkrats hp or damage.
Larger hitbox for Lucio
Lower critbox for d. Va
Hanzos arrow have less hitbox
Do anything with McCree, change the grenade, lessen his sniping capabilities, less bullet regain when rolling.
Bastion can't self heal when in Turret
Longer cds with Mei
Give zen 50 shield, a little less damage on attacks (but still keep it good)
A bit longer reach for syms gun
>>339431450
>accurate fire
Good luck with that before getting sniped.
>At long range, high noon
Yeah using a ult that can be blocked, reflected and stopped which only occurs around every 1.5-2 minutes is something broken. L2P
>>339432134
Lucio's healing needs to be nerfed to be on par with Mercy. Do the math and you'll understand. Right now Mercy is really outclassed by Lucio.
I agree with winston and with zenyatta though.
>>339432134
Lucio needs nerfs. Stop being stupid.
Mercy and Junkrat both need their ult charge rate nerfed.
>>339432225
that is a nice picture
>>339422131
Why are they afraid of a bunch of unarmed men? Widow clearly has her rifle, if nothing else she could gun them all down herself and grapple away without getting molested.
>>339432225
On what grounds are you basing this changes?
>>339433229
They're afraid of the fact that those men are clones. Don't you see how many of them look the exact same?
The best change you could do right now is to fix the xbox huge head hitboxes. No one needs to even aim at a head to hit it, you could hit the enemy's chest and it'll do crit damage.
>>339432321
Not him.
If you nerf Lucio's healing there'll be no point in picking him. His DPS is pathetic and impossible to aim against anyone that isn't standing fucking still, meanwhile Mercy has hitscans and a damage boost with a better ult that actually nets more HP than Lucio.
Do the math and you'll understand.
>>339431450
>McCree is the one class that's fundamentally broken on the design level.
You hit the nail on the head. It's also why there's almost always 3-4 McCree's in every comp game at the moment. Luminosity even ran 3 McCree's in a scrim recently and will undoubtedly start using that soon in a "real" match.
McCree is simply just too retarded.
>>339433003
But Mercy need a decent team to work, while her ult can be game changing, depending on the map and stuff, she is squishy, dies fast and her gun, while good, don't hold up to any direct confrontations. You also lose out on a dps/tank with her
>>339433520
Lucio still has speed boost and a knockback
>>339433765
It's true, that's why he's drafted as an offensive support and not a defensive support like Mercy.
>>339433336
Personal play with mostly randoms? I've been stuck with retards the last few round and is getting serious bitter, so that might influence some of my choices
>>339422131
>D.VA - decrease crit box (thats ALL she needs, shes fine otherwise)
She literally does 0 damage, anyone with any sane amount of skill will just kite her out because her pellet shooter does 0 damage more than 3 feet away, and even then what does she hope to do? She is supposed to be a backliner harasser and she SUCK at it, she can't harass anyone because you literally can't kill anyone and they can kill you really easy, all you can do is fly away and hope they dont chase your ass , her shield is also so fucking useless with an absolutely bloated cooldown that don't make any sense. Fuck i killed people more on her grill form than her mech, how is that makes any sense? It is still all luck in the end because if they also know to be smart enough to spam melee, i will just die anyway.
Now OP, tell me, who does dva counter? Who does she has an advantage?
>>339434030
Learn to boost/melee/aim better.
Shes meant to use all three. Improving her guns will make her too strong.
>>339434030
Getting the jump on Torbjorn, widow, sym. Boosters and punch do 100 damage, shouldn't be too hard to shoot the rest
>Lucio HP reduced to 175
>Zenyatta HP increased to 175
How would this effect the balance?
>mfw people complain about tracer and claim that she needs nerfs
easiest way to spot a no skill casual
>>339434358
Also, on characters that have long reloads, defence matrix a little bit until they are close to reloading helps a lot
>>339434030
If you have Zen or Mercy on you D.Va is incredibly mobile and good at killing shit. Her shield sucks but counters some offense.
She's a good KOTH tank.
i would like to buy this game one day but both of my battle.net accounts are locked behind security questions that i answered years ago and have no idea what the hell i answered them with
Winston and D.VA need small buffs. That's literally it.
If you really think all of those heroes are op you need to git gud
>>339434632
>Play Roadhog
>Hook and M1 to the face
>Tracer eliminated from full HP
Roadhog even counters Roadhog.
>>339434632
There's is one person in this thread that have pointed out a small change to tracer. Apply yourself more, anon
>>339424690
Because you're a shitty new player who gets matched with other shitty players who are too incompetent to counter Bastion.
>>339422131
Stop being bad.
>>339434872
>not zenyatta
spotted the scrub
also if you genuinely believe lucio and mccree are fine you're a retard
>>339422131
I often like to wonder what SFM pornography animators would look like in real life.
>>339435132
I thought about listing zen too, but I think he is best for having two supports in your comp, as in, he cant replace lucio or mercy but works well with them.
>>339422131
>Tracer and Bastion needing a nerf
>Winston and Zarya needing a buff
>Giving Symmetra that much of a fucking buff
>>339434872
>Winston
>Needing buffs
Absolutely not.
>>339435302
99% of 'competitive' games have Lucio and Mercy. Why would I run Zenyatta over either one of those, EVEN as a 2nd support? What, his "damage"? Lucio can do just as much by simply surviving much longer.
buff lucio's hp and healing
buff reaper's ult damage
nerf reinhardt's shield hp and speed when shielded
buff mccree's ammo
>>339433003
Keep mercy out of this you scumbag
Lucio is fine, fuck off.
I agree DVA needs buffing.
Buffs:
Genji- His melee should be better than everyone else by default and REALLY GOOD when RYUGEN KYAKU SHINKUYEAAH
Zarya- Health or damage or something
Nerf-
Noonman
Edgelord
Lemonkeyface
Meimei Meimei
>ITT: Shitters try to ruin the game by suggesting terrible changes
>>339435851
>buffing genji
>nerfing fucking lmaomei
publord
>>339433360sauce?
get fucking rid of Mei
>>339433520
Mercy's pistol isn't hitscan. It has travel time just like D.Va's pistol
>>339422131
>D. Va can just call her battle mech in
>Widow has her stylin' automatic sniper rifle, plus a grappling hook/rappel thing
>Tracer can just use her timeskip
>Mercy can just fly out and have Mei grab on to her
So why would these superheroines he worried about a bunch of poorly-modelled, unarmed Japanese men?
>>339434023
The Junkrat nerf makes no sense to me, I remember getting into a 1v1 with a reaper and was flabbergasted at how many direct hits I had to get on his dumb ass to kill him when he almost killed me with a single shot.
remove tracer
remove widowmaker
remove zarya
remove symmetra
remove mei
remove mercy
remove dva
>>339435851
Genji's fine. The only buff to his normal melee he should possibly have is just having it be faster.
For his ultimate, the most I'd consider is having him get a slight speed boost or maybe heal a bit when he starts it, but even those seem like too much.
>>339435851
Melee got a global nerf from 50 to 30 damage because it was so broken on genji and that they for some reason wants to keep it universal.
Zenyatta could use a buff or two. Maybe an energy drink or something to make his health something more than easy sniper fodder.
>>339435851
>Buffing Genji
>>339435851
>nerfing Mei
Literally why? She's so bad.
Genji's too weak, he does like 1/4 the damage of D.Va. Buff him to at least McCree's damage.
>it's a /v/ tries to understand game balance episode.
>>339436448
>Zen gets a new E skill
>It allows him to put his orb of discord on himself
>It effectively gives him armor HP status on all of his HP
Having armor on his 150 HP would at least mean he'd no longer die from sniper bodyshots at full HP.
>>339422131
>Teleporter a normal ability
Fuck no. Symmetra's teleporter is effectively a selective, long-term Mercy resurrection, the next which can be built up while the current one is deployed.
Anyone who takes it is immediately back at the frontline (assuming Symmetra puts it in a good spot), skipping the very long time it takes to get back to the point on nearly every map.
Mei- increase ability cooldowns by 2 seconds
Junkrat- ult is too easy to destroy, should get extra 25 HP to tire and a slight boost to grenade damage
Bastion- halve sentry ammo and DPS
Reinhardt- should be stationary when shielded, halve shield HP
Symmetra- reduce turret damage, only let her place 2
Windowmaker- make charge up faster by 50%
Tracer- nearly impossible to deal with, health should go down to 100 and she should only have two blinks
McCree- 6 shots is too low, should dual wield revolvers for 12 shots
Zenyatta- orb of discord should only increase damage by 25%, should only be able to stay on enemy for a few seconds
>>339436683
>the next which can be built up while the current one is deployed.
It only builds up once it's gone
>>339436715
I thought you were serious for a second
>>339436715
I wonder who this anon mains.
>>339436325
2 direct hits and any amount of splash kills Reaper which is nothing.
>>339422131
You had me until Winston and Zarya. Zarya is perfectly fine and Winston is one of the best characters in the game. I say that as who plays both Zarya and Winston a lot.
>>339424657
Its a "Hanzo lobs arrows in your general direction and gets headshot after headshot" game.
>Join a Quick Play match
>See this
What do?
>>339436379
>broken on genji
How? his melee with his dragon sword is the same as any one else
it makes no sense senpai.
>>339437004
pick Lucio
>>339422131
>Lucio - reduce healing, increase hitbox, increase cd on alt fire
I love playing Lucio and I do think he's a little too good but why nerf his alt fire? It's incredibly situational.
>>339434872
>winston
>needs buffs
Are you not aware that he is one of the most picked heroes in competitive play and absolutely stomps in pubs?
>>339437004
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE.
>>339437004
Play Genji because I like fun and I'm not a faggot.
>>339437096
His dragon blade does 120 a slash when it's drawn. All of his other abilities use his smaller sword.
>>339436598
I love those, they're the funniest.
>>339437205
>competitive play
Bastion needs work. Hes not overpowered, but it is insanely unfun to play as, against or with. In a pub, you have to do everything to counter him and in a group, you still have to do everything and change all your choices to counter one guy. If you refuse to, youll lose. No one else is this oppressive as a choice. Turret form needs like 75 bullets, should take time to switch. Getting out of turret shouldnt be near instant and let you off scott free to reposition. No healing in turret form either. Buff recon form a bit to counteract it.
>>339422131
just widowmaker needs nerfs. entire team wall hacks is a bit retarded
Genji-
When in Dragon Sword mode the following occurs.
Slash - 150 dmg per swing
Regular Melee - 50 dmg per swing, faster swing
Dash - You have two options here
---- A. The dash does more damage and travels farther
---- B. You get up to 4 dashes that recharge independently (use one, it recharges 1, use all 4, recharge 4), but keep normal damage
Triangle Jump ability
Ability to re-sheaf sword
>>339422131
>/v/s idea of """balance""" is making a character useless, maybe adding some random "good" aspect to them
>buffing Winston
You people really underestimate just how much damage he shits out.
and it soft-locks onto you.
>>339422131
lucio/rein/tracer/bastion all are fine, with the only exception being lucio on control maps just because he fits the scenario of a king of the hill map perfectly
>buff winstons damage
why do people want this? he fills his role perfectly and his gun requires no skill to aim and can easily kill a 200 health target (AKA, the only people you should be attempting to kill) before reloading.
>buff zarya
she's honestly ridiculously strong and can wipe out entire teams if you dont have a mccree to melt her or zenyatta to discord her
I agree at least a little on your other points, d.va especially. No point in giving her so much armor if shes going to take headshot damage for more than 50% of her health in every engagement
>>339422131
>bastion
>nerf
>>339437442
>le overwatch cant be competitive meme
you don't balance a class based shooter based on pubs
>OP requests Overwatch fixes to make his main stronger
Surprise surprise
>>339437975
I'm not laughing at the idea of competitive overwatch, I'm just mocking your generation's inability to think for yourself
>>339437669
>it's a "why can't I ult and kill the enemy team" post again
switch heroes
>Faggots who main Mei claim she's not OP because if she gets nerfed that can't pubstomp while asleep because of how garbage broken her abilities are
>>339438240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Mp5gE0HSw
>>339438026
My most played Heroes are Pharah, Widow, Rein, Lucio, and Mercy, in that order last I remembered.
Lucio needs at least one nerf and there is no question about it.
>>33943813
What does thinking for myself have to do with anything? Why would decide based on my personal experience instead of the full potential of a character?
>i think that these characters should be buffed because i don't understand how to play them effectively.
>i think that these characters need to be nerfed because i got killed by their ult in a potg.
literally, stop complaining and git good.
now let's roll.
>never played as Bastion
>figure what the fuck why not
>get my first piece of rage mail for doing it
I should play Bastion more
>>339438460
LOL THAT MESSAGE
>>339438364
>cant even quote a post
Maybe thinking isn't for everyone.
>>339438295
>le epic video where shitter falls for the same tricks 20 times and overreacts for laughs
>throws in a Dark Souls is super hard meme for extra laughs
>>339432225
>d.va not wearing anything underneath
>like its a plugsuit
We all know its a nod to evangelion/G Gundam, but isn't hers more of an outfit?
>>339438295
This video is cancer desu
>>339438595
just stick to your pubs and let people who are better than you at the game talk about the balance
>>339438460
>play as bastion
>always end up wiping full teams using turret mode
>whenever I play against a bastion I have no problems whatsoever because I'm used to his glaring weaknesses
>people still claim he's broken
He's easy to kill unless you literally run straight towards him guns blazing. Use cover/flank, once you're close range he's surpisingly squishy. It's the same as shitty players who keep shooting a full load on wraith Reaper then dying while trying to reload.
>>339422131
yes/maybe/no
yes/this is overly complicated/his accuracy on fan the hammer would be a better nerf
no
yes/yes
no
bastion just needs a slight damage adjustment to be perfect
she deserves more of a buff than that
winston is fine, maybe increase shield strength slightly
yes/no/both orbs should last longer
not sure about zarya yet
buff her turrets then increase the cooldown, reward smart placement/buff her alt fire ability in some way
hanzo will probably also see nerfs, hopefully on scatter arrow at minimum.
>most casual game that ever existed
>nerf this nerf that wahhh!!
babies can't into counters
why are Torbjorns not allowed to heal each other's turrets?
>>339422131
>subject an FPS to finnicky character balance issues
Only dota tier faggots could come up with and condone this trash
>>339438864
Hanzo is fine, power wise. But he's unfun to play as and against.
>>339438795
Did your ecelebs teach you that line too?
>>339422131
Increase tick rate will fix half the problems
That said just remove health gain from tracers rewind
Winston is fine your playing him wrong
Give zeny another heal orb, 200 health or give the single harmony orb a weak heal aura
>>339438960
>having two of the same hero
>>339438240
>main
you can counter Mei if you switched hero
>"but how do i do that with my main"
thats your problem and has nothing to do with Mei
>>339439060
I've been on teams where we shut down teams with all dwarfs
Let's propose something, /v/.
Any ideas for Overwatch balance should always be accompanied by screenshots of the player's stats so we at least have an idea of whether or not they're just a crybaby.
>>339439154
ive done the same with a well balanced team of various heroes
consistently, in fact!
>>339439217
>we
Heh
>>339438240
Half of mei's playing are w+m1 pyros if you're having trouble that's your fault
>>339439045
you tell me. it's you publords that love watching epic streams
>>339439217
I think the point where someone spends their time playing Overwatch is where you can start safely dismiss any opinions as trash
>>339439150
>you can counter Mei if you switched hero
someone who's pretty shit at FPS here
has anyone made a cheat sheet as to who counters who?
>>339439405
im sure there is something out there but not that im aware off
basically anything that can rapidly gain distance on Mei counters her
a good Mei can snipe you from afar though which is incredibly frustrating but thats part of the game
>>339439405
Pharah could more or less be considered a hard counter for Mei, since unless the Mei manages to get off a few crazy well-aimed shots with the icicle, she just doesn't have the rate of fire to cope with an aerial assault. Also a good Tracer will come out of top against Mei nine times out of ten.
>>339438439
what
>>339439405
YesMcReee>Everyone
>>339439641
widowmaker's a pretty good counter for Mei as long as she doesn't see you coming / you don't camp in one spot for more than a few secs at a time.
Rein is an excellent counter if you can aim a charge on her.
>>339422131
WHY ISNT ZARYA THERE?!??! >:(
>People seriously don't think Junkrat needs a nerf
Here's how you play absolute pro Junkrat at any level
>stand a safe distance away from any danger and just mash your main fire into the area
>get rewarded for your skillful play
>Ult from a safe distance and get easy multikills
>Go back to mashing your main fire and being rewarded
>Occasionally using mine jump to reach high areas and spam your main fire some more
>always make fun of Reaper edgelords
>refuse to use the character because he is aimed at edgy 12 year olds
>get a legendary skin for him
>god fucking damn it
>use him 1 time just to try the skin
>he is actually really fun and now I want to use him more
Oh god.
>>339440692
>oh god how do I avoid these easy to avoid explosives that dont explode on impact
youre just salty that you got caught in a beartrap
>>339436351
He really doesn't need it when he can use his dash attack.
>>339440696
which skin?
>>339422131
Pharah needs an increase of her rocket splash radius
>there are people in this thread that haven't done a 6 Mercy comp
HEROES NEVER DIE
>>339440852
A lot of people forget that Genji's dash also pushes you in whatever direction you're looking, including straight up. Sudden Aerial Genji is great for harassing and taking out supports.
>>339440696
If you flank properly, yea, he's fun
But if you're an idiot who just wants to brawl with the enemy frontline, he's garbage
Someone explain to me how widow works
I have 100% charge and have headshotted McRee, 76, Pharah, any of the 200 range heroes and they dont give a shit.
Meanwhile Widows on the enemy team breath on my pinkie toe and I bite the dust. Is this shitty tick rate? Misleading replays? Do people fucking hack in this shit?
>>339437669
Fuck no. I main Genji and he's pretty fine.
>Slash- 150 dmg per swing.
He would one shot heros like tracer and zenyatta, which you can already do if you just slash then swift strike, which also recharges after each kill.
>Regular Melee - 50 dmg per swing, faster swing
Pick one
>Dash - You have two options here
>---- A. The dash does more damage and travels farther
>---- B. You get up to 4 dashes that recharge independently (use one, it recharges 1, use all 4, recharge 4), but keep normal damage
A makes him OP, B makes him tracer
>Triangle Jump ability
I have no idea what you are trying to say
>Ability to re-sheaf sword
I have no idea what you are trying to say, again.
If anything, he should maybe have both abilities cooldown when he ults, but thats pushing it, or maybe make him faster, also pushing it.
>>339422131
Anyone who cries for nerfs is a shitter who can't adapt.
Kill yourself m8
>>339440820
>implying it's the damage
Junkrat is fucking brainless area of denail
>>339441883
>3 McRee's is common in comp
>We don't need nerfs you shitters!
>>339441827
>mains a ninja
>doesn't know what a triangle jump is
>doesn't know what re-sheaf sword
It means to put it away.
>>339441976
>whenever Mei's in a comp she's a broken piece of shit
>s-she doesn't need nerfs because she's not as common as McCree!
>>339441934
great so he's doing his job
maybe you should do yours and kill the fucker
>>339442103
She's been picked like 3 times total in the past couple tourneys.
You have a better chance shitting a gold turd then actually seeing mei in comp.
>>339422131
Lucio - change skin to white, decrease heal/speed effectiveness by range. (far = low effect, near lucio = 100% effect)
McCree - Roll doesn't reload, but have no cooldown (Still can't shoot/reload while rolling)
Reinhardt - shield capacity increase but can't move while shield
Widow - change the useless bio trap
Tracer - indicate where she's gonna rewind to
Bastion - decrease accuracy on range
D.Va - (human form) increase pistol fire rate, decrease damages.
Winston - Increase controls on rocket boost, most of the time, people overjumped.
Zenyatta - harmony orb cancel when too far from zenyatta instead of lost of sight.
Pharah - increase gas, but stop recovering gas when airborne
Soldier - need better legendary skins.
genji - Only killing someone with dash slash remove the dash slash cooldown.
mei - increase frozen delay by 1.0 sec
Hanzo - increase ultimate damage, reduce size
Reaper - remove mask
junkrat - reduce damage on shields
Torbjon - bring level 3 turrets back, remove molten core increasing turret's armors and level.
Zarya - remove pink hairs
Mercy - reduce ultimate charging speed
Roadhog - more legendary skins
Symmetra - Remove sentries, change it to another skill
>>339442196
Do you play in tournaments?
>>339442001
>Googles Triangle Jump
>Oh
Most of the maps probably don't support that type of ability, desu. His wall climb is good enough.
>Doesn't know what re-sheaf sword
>It means put away
Don't you mean re-sheath? And he already sheaths his swords after all his abilities.
>>339422131
>Mcree - increase flashbang cd
Moron. Remove flashbang, replace with anything but a hard cc u incredible thunder cunts, increase HP, only 3 shot burst for FTH
Fix'd
>>339440820
>he actually thinks it's hard to fill an area with grenades
>he actually believes it's hard to shoot a grenade at someone's feet for a direct hit every time
>>339430152
If it's balanced for Esports then OP's list isn't terribly far off, excepting tracer, bastion, winston, zarya, and symmetra.
>>339442396
how is that any different from doing the exact same thing as Pharrah?
>>339442289
No, but it's safe to say the opinion of people who play this game competitively and for money are much more valid then my own.
If her pick rate is sub 5% by pros, obviously she is neither not strong enough in some way.
If McRee's is literally over 100%, then he is obviously too powerful in some way or another.
Do you know how metas work anon?
>>339442262
>Reaper - remove mask
It'd be extremely painful, though.
>>339440973
Plague
>>339442490
Junkrat's RoF is much higher than pharah's and he doesn't need to be in LoS to do it.
>>339442543
>Do you play in tournaments?
>No
Then shut the fuck up nerd
Only waifufags want Lucio nerfed because they are mad he is superior to Mercy.
>>339442764
so youre complaining that the defense character is good at keeping the enemy away from the objective?
This thread is full of terrible ideas.
>>339422131
>Reinhardt - increase cd before shield recharge
For what reason? shield is fine, shoot at it
>Widow - increase scope charge time, decrease firing rate
Remove charge, decrease firing rate, change ult to 30 second CD 5 second wallhack.
>Tracer - increase blink recharge time
Kill yourself
>Bastion - decrease transformation speed
No. Can move slowly while in turret mode. Nigger needs a buff not more nerfs.
>Zarya - increase hp, increase shield duration on allies, reduce alt fire damage slightly
Holy shit no, remove ally shield, the end.
>Symmetra - just redo her completely, make her ult a normal ability
Ye, and give the telly to Toblerone. Instead of 2 useless ones you get 1 useful hero.
>>339442262
>Zarya - remove pink hairs
Can't fucking agree more. Imagining a traditional housewife Zarya that is still dominant makes my dick diamonds!!
ohhh Winstonn
got yah favorite
>>339422131
>Mcree - increase flashbang cd, roll only reload 2 bullets + number of eliminations/assists in the last five seconds
No.
>Roll doesn't reload gun
>Roll now has i-frames and lower cooldown
So it's actually useful for closing distance after the flashbang or for getting to cover. this stops his fan the hammer > roll > fan the hammer antimatter combo
I fucking love playing Winston, but how do I stop overshooting with his leaps? I feel like I aim the same way twice and each time something completely different happens.
>>339442396
>>339442490
You are both cunts. Both Pharah and Junkrat are underpowered and hitscan will only dominate more come time.
>>339442543
>No, but it's safe to say the opinion of people who play this game competitively and for money are much more valid then my own.
The sad thing is that most "pro's" don't give a shit they play whatever they get.
McCree could be a great hero and the meta less stale, but they don't give a shit.
>>339442543
Problem is that some things only get viable in comp play. McCree is pretty shit without a team and pocket medics.
>>339442797
>ignores rest of post
XDDD EBIN MCREE IS SO KEWL XD
>>339442374
>Remove flashbang, replace with anything but a hard cc u incredible thunder cunts, increase HP, only 3 shot burst for FTH
>+Add 3 charges to shift.
Oh look kids, a fun and interesting hero that's not cheap as fuck.
FIRIN THE HOG
>>339422131
>D.VA - decrease crit box (thats ALL she needs, shes fine otherwise)
Except that her damage output is horrible and ANYONE outdamages her.
>>339444820
D.Va is more about pressure than getting kills.
She's inferior to Winston in every way in that regard, but that's the idea.
>>339444603
i'm so glad I haven't seen porn of these two being gay for each other, and even more so there's nothing in-game for anyone to even try to force it. There's even a line where Roadhog asks if Junkrat ever shuts up
>>339444820
Shes suppose to boost into ppl + melee, eat retaliation with matrix then shoot back
>>339445280
The guy who did the junkrat and roadhog comic is literally a gay porn artist
>>339445017
>D.Va is more about pressure than getting kills
Nothing pressures more than tickling people amiright?
Her whole concept is plain weird. She has no real purpose whatsoever. A Tracer does everything better on her own while getting kills.
>>339422131
>It's one of these threads
>Mfw
The support category is a joke
>Best character in the game
>Powerful character, but should never be picked unless you're also running the first
>A joke
>A defense character who was mistakenly placed in the support category who is also a joke
It has the least amount of characters and two of them are trash, I can't wait to see what they'll come up next.
>>339445725
She either plays like a shitty Rein with more mobility or a shitty Winston with less damage/utility. Her best use is to use her boosters to drop on top of tightly-packed enemies then discard the mech to try and get some blast damage. She has a Rein-like shield but piss poor damage and limited options when anything other than mid-range. You can try and play her like Winston, tanking a few hits to break formation, breaking people up with the potential of an SD but Winston has leaping and his drop shield which provides counters to many more heroes.
https://a.pomf.cat/iqttnh.webm
why are the yells the characters let out when they fall into a pit so goddamn funny
>>339446160
I've never said this about vidya shirts as I know there are guys who can have sex in any shirt but this shirt is pussy repellent plain and simple.
>>339445280
There are a lot of gay porn of those 2 dude, are you being sarcastic?
>>339434908
>There's is one person in this thread that have pointed out a small change to tracer.
>Apply yourself more, anon
anon... You needed to apply yourself in school, what the fuck are you saying? Also if you're saying what I think you are saying, OP suggested a tracer nerf, again I have to say that you are the one that needs to apply one's self.
>>339442262
>Lucio - change skin to white
Why do people reply to these threads? Nerfs/buff threads are reddit-tier. Stop discussing this shit and enjoy the game. It has been just a week since the game release and people are already acting like they know everything about the game.
Overwatch is in a very balanced state right now. The only heroes that could use some changes are Bastion, Mei and Zenyatta.
like i want to read your babby's first fps theorycraft
>>339442543
Korens never pick mei, koreans trump all regions in the universe when it comes to esports anon.
Na but in all reality the only reason why Mei and other things are not picked is because of Mecree just making all other picks no validated.
>>339446942
Who cares?
>>339448152
>Korean is a religion
Are you high?
>>339437004
be confused that there aren't at least 4 hanzos
After playing for a bit today. I still stand on the Torb Turret lock-on nerf. Additionally, maybe Mercy's ult should charge slightly slower. Seems a bit ridiculous
>>339447365
>people are already acting like they know everything about the game
>now shut up and let me tell you what the game needs
>>339448615
There will be even less reasons to play Mercy over a Lucio if she doesnt have her Ults readily available.
What if Widow's sniper mode couldn't fire unless it was fully charged? Plus a slight increase in charge time to offset.
>>339448461
he typed region anon not religion,
ARE YOU HIGH?
>>339442139
he has a mine that does 10 billion damage he can toss and explode at close range and he isn't squishy like he should be so he's more difficult to kill than you expect
>>339422131
Bullshit
Characters that need Nerfs:
Lucio - increase hitbox size
Bastion - make weak point in turret mode a lot more sensitive to reward getting behind him
Mei - rework the character they are broken as fuck in every regard.
Roadhog - increase chain cooldown time
Zarya - increase health, decrease shields.
Characters that need buffs:
D.Va - decrease crit box
Symmetra - give her some method to heal, she is terrible as a solo support as-is.
Pharah - make her immune to crits, she cant crit so enemies shouldnt be able to crit her, headgear sets a visual precedence for this.
>>339442262
McCree's roll should have cooldown but less than it does now. It shouldn't reload the gun but should have i-frames instead.
>>339449210
Roadhog does not need nerf, he's balanced and if anything, in a very awkward place in terms of the meta.
Pharah and Mei are fine.
>>339448746
Just like there's less reason to play Reaper over McCree
>>339440696
>not realizing Reaper is satire
Seriously, how do people not get this.
>respawns
>THIS IS MY CURSE
>I WILL FEAST ON THEIR SOULS
Decreasing dva's crit box won't work because it's still center mass.
>>339438132
why then, in your opinion, does winston need any kind of buff?
![[KamiFS]_Dragon Ball Super - 040_[720p_x264] [10bit] [951B7A32].mkv_snapshot_19.04_[2016.05.23_04.08.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ERXdjny.jpg "[KamiFS]_Dragon Ball Super - 040_[720p_x264] [10bit] [951B7A32].mkv_snapshot_19.04_[2016.05.23_04.08.28].jpg")
TRACER- buff ult where it actually has a blast radius larger than 1ft or increase the throw range
BASTION- needs a rework. only good against scrubs that rush in.
HANZO- needs some mobility buff
MCgree- nerf stun cooldown
ZARYA- remove pink hair. any normal hair color good.
ZENYATTA- buff hp by 25
D. va- add seppuku when in zero suit mode. bitch needs to die sooner.
WINDOWMAKER- just remove her completely so the newbies will choose a char that'll help them learn the game
BLIZZARD-filed chargeback got money back but kept game.
>>339434872
>D.Va needs buff
take your own advice faglord
bastion transform should take 3 seconds
>>339450435
you forgot
Mei - needs removed
McCree and Widowmaker are the only ones who desperately need a nerf 100%. They have literally no weakness and provide far too much to a team.
Lucio:
Allow alt fire to push bastion in and force him out of his turret mode like Roadhog's hook
Mercy:
Lower rate at which ult is gained. Ultimate can be 'interrupted', killing her before she finishes still revives teammates but at increasingly lower health depending on how early she was killed (ie: killing right away will leave enemies with critical health)
Hanzo: His arrows don't have bullshit hit-you-if-you-aren't-even-in-the-retical powers
Widowmaker: Sniper takes at least 3 seconds to charge instead of 1. Can't spam shots when sniping either.
Torbjorn: Turret doesn't have perfect accuracy so you can actually avoid getting hit
Bastion: Reduce turret rotation to 180 degrees
>>339450873
>buffing Lucio
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>339451010
should be fair for Lucio to be able to shove a bastion turret
Why shouldn't it? It's not like he's anchored to the ground by a tether.
Increase Zenyatta's health by 25-50, decrease Mei's health by 25-50.
Mei wouldn't be such a fucking problem if she she didn't have so much fucking health.
>>339450873
>that mercy change
Thats actually really goddamn good
Buff D.VA pls
>>339450683
McCree I can agree with, though a good Genji or a decent Roadhog should be able to kill him pretty easily.
>Widowmaker
>literally no weakness
>who is Pharah, who is Junkrat, who is Mei, who is D.va
>>339422131
I'm glad you don't design video games tbqfh
Mei nerf
>Mei's ult can be stopped early by doing enough damage to the drone
y/n
>>339424657
>When the Hanzo on your team has that two square feet of a corner on lock
>>339449210
>I can't hit Lucio
Why are you so angry?
How am I supposed to tell which direction people are gonna face when they leave my teleporter?
I just had a match on Volskaya on offense where I put one up by a ledge and 3 people died coming out of it
>>339450435
>ZARYA- remove pink hair. any normal hair color good.
I actually would have liked Zarya's hair color to change with every skin.
Instead it only changes with her two goth ones. Not even her epics change her hair color.
>>339451671
There's some chevrons facing out from Symmetra's hologram when putting down her teleporter.
The direction out will always be facing her.
>>339451671
An arrow literally points straight at you when. you're placing it
>complaining about Zarya's hair color
It's pink, whatever
I've seen weirder shit in video games
>>339451672
>not loving the pink hair
She's in there to appeal to SJW tumblerinas.
In game, however, she's a racist hulking piece of shit who mocks the enemy.
SJWs will never know this because they never actually play games.
Well played blizzard
>>339451961
>I've got my eye on you, Omnic
>And I shall watch your back in turn
why is Zenyatta so based
>>339422131
>>339451961
>literally fighting a war against omnics in her home country
>man shes so RACIST for not trusting them
Why are you so dumb?
>>339440696
I was the same and then I got the mariachi skin.
Now he's not so edgy
>>339451961
>there will never be tracksuit zarya with a vodka melee
would main asap
>>339422131
reinhart needs a nerf
the shield is stupid and he's boring to play as a result
healing in general needs a nerf, the game is way too forgiving
>>339422131
>Winston - increase tesla gun damage
As of now, the damage can always kill a widow, mercy, hanzo, symmetra if he jumps into the back of the team. He's seriously underrated and people just hate him because he doesn't do damage quick
>>339422131
genji needs to just be removed from the game
