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This guy walks in, throws a flashbang at the other side of the room, and stuns you. What do you do?
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>>339417942
yell profanities
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>>339417942
Throw up my Zarya shield
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>>339417942
Remember the Alamo.
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Switch to roadhog and proceed to bully him the entire game with instant kill hook combos while mocking him in chat for being a try hard.

FUCK MCCREE
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>Hook
>headshot
>Melee

next
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Mash every button then promptly die
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>>339418475
and so the cycle of life continues
fueled and fuel to be fuel to be fueled
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>be roadhog
>hook McFag at his every ultimate
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>>339418475
>>339418184
You can't do these things while stunned. Roadhog might be able to survive the Fan the Hammer though, if he misses your head enough times.
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>>339418184
>zarya has 200+200 hp
>bubble is 200hp
>McRee does 2x420 damage plus melee

Hmm. I'm no mathematician but I'm sure you'll be fine :^)
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>>339417942
nothing, i die...that's the way how Overwatch works
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>>339418570
HOOK, LINE AND SINKER
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You've just taken some damage from the enemy team and walk right past this guy and his biotic field

What the fuck is wrong with you? Don't you see the glowing circle?
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>>339418913
sorry papa
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>>339418778
>Implying the average McRee player knows how to aim

Ha
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>>339418913
He won't respect me unless I earn it on my own
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>34 eliminations
>31 fan the hammer kills
>everyone commends
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>>339419375
>Kills don't count unless you are using a cooldown
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>>339419375
It's like saying "Congratulations on breathing!"
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>>339419375
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My turret kills him.
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>>339417942
Call my team.
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>yfw IT'S HIGH NOON
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It's high noon somewhere in the world
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McRee doesn't even bother me, especially when compared to Mei.

I want to hurt Mei.
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>>339419816
Pretty good Lucio.
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>>339420001
git gud
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>>339420230
Just look at that little cunts face, she knows shes extremely annoying.
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>>339418739
not if he rolls and does it again. if you take away that instant reload he wouldn't be so overpowered, i think. he's supposed to have a small magazine for a reason.
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does anyone know the difference between shield and armor?
i know shield regens does armor decrease damage taken?
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I feel like McCree is a bit too powerful in most situations. I'm fine with his ultimate, but his flashbang, instant reload with a roll, and great damage at most ranges make him a bit too good.
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>>339417942
complain on the forums enough to get him nerfed and then whine about someone else like Tracer
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dumb overwatch posters
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>>339417942
>What do you do?
>stunned
>STUNNED
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>>339419816
her body looks like shit outside of preferred lighting and angles
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>>339420369
>magazine

triggered
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>>339420376
Armor decreases every hit by 5 damage. So single big hits like rockets aren't reduced as much as say tracer or a shotgun type blast.
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>>339420401

He's being nerfed don't worry
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Accept my death.
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I never used to think his flashbang was bad until he tore threw my Zarya in second. Literally a cancer character
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>>339417942
Nothing, because I already played the Uninstall Wizard class.
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>>339417942
Nothing I'm not dumb enough to walk into an enclosed space when the other team is running mccree
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>>339420376
armor decreases all physical sources of damage by 5 points. so characters like D.Va are very good against characters like Tracer, 76, etc. who deal small amounts of sustained dps through their guns because the armor decreases the damage from each individual bullet
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You can't counter Mcree's pocketsand. You can only bend over and get punished for happening to run into him.
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>>339420613
McRee is the same as Mei.

Ridiculously good against shitters who run off without their team and get caught in a 1v1 situation.
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>>339420598
He's getting nerf'd soon
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>>339420690
Except unlike mei he's also good in general if you aren't retarded.
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>>339417942

Take comfort in knowing that he'll be nerfed and with Blizzard's usual practice in class balance, nerfed so badly nobody will use him for several months when he gets his next balance pass again.
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>>339420527

Yeah I've heard the rumors about that. I've never really had an issue with any characters in the game as a Pharah Mercy combo, but lately McCree has been a bit of an issue. I hate to call for nerfs, but he just seems strong in too many situations, a lot of comp teams seem to run 2 McCree's which shows how good he is.
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>>339420506
a magazine is the encasing where bullets are stored, and a clip is just a band that holds the bullets which are fed into the chamber. isn't that what the revolver would have then? a magazine (because it's enclosed)?
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>>339420230
>On King's Row attacking with some bros
>Mei comes out of nowhere and freezes my Mercy ass and kills me
>She says "Hi" in the most condescending way possible
>Tell my teammates to focus her down if she gets anywhere near me
>Mei spends the rest of the match constantly dead as whenever she tries to kill me she gets wacked to death by Reinhardt's hammer and killed by Hanzo's bullshit non-hitscan arrow

>The Mei leaves 5 seconds before they lose
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>>339420520
>>339420659

how does it work with constant damage like Zarya's beam?
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>>339420690
>Ridiculously good against shitters who run off without their team and get caught in a 1v1 situation.
and the /v/ idiots who refuse to switch characters to counter even though they can at anytime
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>>339419816
How lazy can you get.

Also

>dat nose
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>>339417942

>pop reflect as soon as possible
>*sheathes katana* nothing pers-
>killcam doesn't even show me using reflect

You win again tickrate. Well played.
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>>339420834
It still works in ticks.
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>>339417942
Woah there
*unsheaths revolver*
IT'S HIIIIGH NOON
*headshots everyone*
SOMEBODY BETTER CALL THE UNDERTAKER
*rolls off into sunset*
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>>339420690
>That guy who cant get kills without the team around to carry him
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>>339417942
die
/thread
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>huge sucker for revolvers
>by the time I play this game McCree will be nerfed into the ground
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>>339417942
mccree's flash is balanced, git gud
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>>339420690
But you actually have a chance of killing a Mcree 1 on 1 with some characters.
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>>339417942
>mash iceshield button for mei
>im in there for a split second before he kills me
>killcam shows me just standing there like a moron
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>>339420841
How do you even counter that fucker? Widowmaker is the only one I can think of but a sniper counters the entire cast so it's a moot point.

Soldier and Mccree are the most versatile characters in the game, but mccree is the only one who can kill the entire cast at the press of a couple of buttons in two seconds as long as he surprises them. He'll he doesn't even need to surprise, roll forward to gain distance and throw flashbang. It's piss easy.
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>>339419816
the mei is THICK, the dva is just fat
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>>339421050
Their not nerfing anyone the only one complaining about him are the /v/ shitters who refuse to acknowledge that you're supposed to switch characters frequently to counter
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>>339421068
>E off cooldown
>Not using it as soon as you see a mcree nearby
God damn man, you really need to git gud
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>>339421050
It sucks. I really like the character so I guess I better play him now. Blizzs usual idea of a nerf is to make whatever they nerf so trash it may as well not exist
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>>339421152
Soldier handles McCree fine at mid-long range since he has no damage drop-off.
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>>339421249
>switch to a character to counter this guy who doesn't ever need to do the same thing

>>339414698
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>>339421050
Nah, he will never be useless because of his very design. At worst he's just gonna see increased cool down on flashbang anyway. If you're seriously gonna whine because you actually have to work for kills once he's nerfed you should kill yourself.
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>>339417942
I get blinded by the light
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>>339421249
No amount of character switching will counter a 1v1 mcree scenario.
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>>339421249
Blizzard has officially stated that Mcree concerns them. They think he is too good at long range while being a close range skirmishing God.
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>>339421068
He is supposed to anally rape Genji and tracer though.

Problem is that he kills tanks in 1 second.
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>>339421310
>mccree rolls towards you and presses e
It's less of a counter and more like he has a better chance than most of the cast. Meanwhile a bunch of the cast get completely hard countered by other characters.
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>>339421249

I don't think it's a simple case of counter for McCree, a good McCree seems strong against most classes close or mid range. He's strong in a lot of situations except maybe very far range. I just think he's too strong overall and needs some changes.
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Still more fun than the Turret Duo.
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>>339421152
>He'll he doesn't even need to surprise, roll forward to gain distance and throw flashbang. It's piss easy.

Yes he does as long as you're not running into small spaces around the map you're fine, you can switch to pharah or junkrat and spam his room and he'll get picked off in the open

>>339421316
>esports
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>>339421249
Negative. Blizz' track record on nerfs is to make sure everyone has equal usage. On the pro circuit, there are multiple mcrees on every team. he has literally a 133% usage rate.

He's getting nerfed weather you like it or not
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>>339421267
The flashbang would've still landed due to it hitting the ground and not him.

At best he'd have deflected enough bullets to live long enough to die to Mccree's Roll -> Reload, since deflect doesn't accuractly shoot back Fan the Hammer's bullets due to how inaccurate they are.
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>>339418739
I thought Fan didn't do headshots.
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>Fan at the enemy McCree
>Miss half the shots
>Enemy fans me
>All of them hit

every time
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>>339421335
>flashbang now only stuns on direct hit
>reduced range of flashbang
>reduced speed of reload
>reduced firing speed of fan the hammer
>Roll no longer reloads
>75% damage less when more than 10 meters from someone

This is the type of shit Blizz does. If the design doesn't allow it then they'll just do crazy shit like make the character trash
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>>339419816
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>>339419080
They don't need to at point blank.
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>>339421249
Yeah, you can switch to one of the many McCree counters in the game like...
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Do Japanese hipster westaboo cancer flock to him like our Genjifags?
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>>339419080
>Fire blindly at the massive land whale with pink hair and doing 70 damage a shot + 50 from flash bang.
>Needing to aim.
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Realize that for McCree it's always High Noon.
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>>339421672
This guy squat and slaps your gf's ass.
Wat do ?
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>>339421561
I've had several deflect kills against fan the hammer. I just wish deflecting the stun bomb was more beneficial. Genji has to have swift strike ready so he can cancel the deflect, and then he has to quickly turn around to shoot shurikens before he's fanned dead. I wish you could just cancel deflect anytime.
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>>339421438
Genji hard counters Mcree though
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>>339419816
white girls never
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>>339417942
I go make yet another Overwatch thread on /v/ - Video Games.
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>>339421698
McCree.
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>>339421736

Asian players love roadhog, especially the koreans. In the early morning hours I constantly get matched up with them on US west servers and there is rarely less than 3 streetpigs per game. Had a game yesterday with 4 roadhogs, 3 zarya, and 2 genji.
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>>339421821
>hard
He has a chance provided he has both of his abilities ready.
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>>339420369
if he's emptied his whole clip with rapidfire and rolled to reload, the flashbang would have worn off by then, it doesnt last long. Roadhog would still have an opportunity to hook him and finish him
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>>339421821
>A 200 health character that needs mobility to survive.
>Countering a character that stuns and does about 865 damage in the span of 2.5 seconds.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbt6g7UKe70
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>>339421821
You do realize if you reflect he can just throw the grenade in front of you and still stun you right.

Hell he can throw the grenade over Reinhardts shield from the front and stun him.
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Nothing,
A turret already got him
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>Die due to pocket sand + fan hammer combo
>Check the kill cam
>The stun bomb blew up 10 feet away from me but still stunned me

B a l a n c e d
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>>339421450
>McCree rolls towards you at mid range
Good luck with that.
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>>339422079
You forgot also stuns everyone around you.
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>>339421310
76 does have falloff now.
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>PLAY OF THE GAME
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>>339421050
They're more likely to remake his abilities.
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>>339422078
>play genji
>enemy team has a well placed turret
>the pharah never destroys it and the widowmaker is too busy building their kd
>genji is now completely useless and I have to switch to pharah do remove the turret buy team comp is fucked now and we instalose
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>>339422078
>Playing McCree.
>McCree's stun grenade stuns turrets.
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>>339422180
OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
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>>339421890
Of course, thank you Anon
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>>339422180

Toblerone should be removed from the game.
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>>339422271
Go junkrat instead and segway into laying down supressive fire
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>>339422271
Can't reflect or get up there to style on it? Dumb weeb.
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>>339421821
You ever played that matchup? The McCree can just throw it at your feet and remove any chance of a deflect.

It's a lot harder than it sounds on paper.
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>>339419375
34 eliminations is pretty damn high man.
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>>339422180
How embarrassing was the chat afterwards?
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>>339422412
The deflect never kills the turret, it has too much health upgraded. So he has to peek from corners throwing shurikens if he wants to kill it.

Also it instantly know where he is so it alerts the enemy team of flankers which is his main purpose
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>>339422271
wait is this a ruse or are you just retarded?
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>character has a retarded amount of burst freely available, plus a stun
>somehow this never came up during beta
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>>339422621
It did but he also used to have a Sniper Pistol with no drop off and constantly out snipped Widowmaker and Hanzo.
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>Bastions and Torbjorn turrets with a reinhard and a mercy guarding them
>side passages both guarded by McRee

now what?
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>>339422621
He got buffed from the last closed beta to open beta since not many people were playing McCree actually.
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>>339422621
this is post nerf mccree actually
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>>339417942
>Put a 10 second cooldown on fan that resets with roll.
>Literally fixes every problem he has
Done and done. If he wants to dump two fans he has to expend 2 cooldowns to burst down either 1 tank or 2 people.

So many people don't seem to understand that he is literally designed to be a tank murderer/tracer-genji counter. Problem is they allowed him to keep using his fan on a per reload basis so he can literally mow down teams at close range. All he brings is damage, nerf that and he is strictly worse than every other offense hero, but I have a strong suspicion that people just want him nerfed because they are butthurt he can 1v1 anyone and come out ahead because they play this game like CoD and lone wolf.

In comp play he's busted because Lucio and hero stacking, Hero stacking is honestly the biggest problem this game has and will continue to have. After Mcree is nerfed you'll see nothing but genji/tracer/winston stacks instead.
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>>339422727
I thought they did something stupid and inconsequential like increase the reload time after a Fan the Hammer.
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>>339422718
Junkrat/Pharah spam until Reinhardt's shield breaks, then everyone throws a party?
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>>339422718
Pick Genji, Tracer, Hanzo

Win video game
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>>339422718
Gaze into the iris
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>>339422718
junkrat
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>>339422621

In beta he had no damage drop off with left click. Paired with mercy and 50% damage (now nerfed to 30) he was a better sniper than widow maker with 200 dmg body shots.

Blizzard has no idea how to balance games, much less an FPS
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>>339422818
>So many people don't seem to understand that he is literally designed to be a tank murderer
But that's Reaper already.
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>>339422826
HEROES NEVER DIE!

The only way around it is to have a well coordinated team. Which you will never have in quick play.
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Just played agaist a six torb team
How the fuck are you supposed to counter that much bullshit?
most broken thing in the game desu
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>>339422594
See >>339422586
I'm happy for suggestions as to how to deal with turrets as Genji, it's so frustrating when my team never tries to help me destroy it.

Weirdly enough deflecting a turret was an easy way to destroy them during the open beta, but it never works anymore
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>rank 300 on that overwatchmaster site
>oh shit better play my main more and up that shit
>play for a few hours
>do fucking great
>rank 389

I wish I didn't know about that site, it's making this less enjoyable
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>tfw trying to high noon it but a genji reflects it back to me.

Feels afternoon man.
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>>339422958
Use a rein and destroy the turrets from behind his shield? But since this was probably a pubmatch then there's no way to get more than one person to stay behind Rein's shield.
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>>339422818
I thought they designed him to be a "you better have high accuracy" character with abilities to help him deal with getting caught at close range. That's supported by the patch notes for the fan nerf, they want him to mainly use mouse1.
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>>339422818
This guy sort of has it right.

McCree is currently the only hard counter to Genji/Tracer, both of which would run rampant and fuck everyone up without him.

>>339422823
They doubled the duration on his flashbang since no one could get any kills with it.
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>>339422920
You realize there are multiple heroes that fill the same role right? They just go about it different ways. Genji, Tracer , reaper and Winston are all great widow counters, they just do it differently, same for Mcree, reaper and Pharah, the tank killers.
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>>339422958
Widowmaker, Hanzo, Pharah
Next question
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>>339421152
Genji is a hard counter to mcree, zarya, pharah .Anyone that can do damage without being near him is a counter.
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>>339422997
It's worthless because it only has data on people from the last time that particular person was searched.
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>>339422948
>Desperately backpedaling and adding ults into the equation
That still doesn't change anything though since you just break the shield again and force the Bastion to move/destroy the turret.
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>>339421812
BREAK IT DOWN
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Laugh, it blows up long before it reaches me.
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>>339423172
Maybe a shit McCree. Yeah you can deflect his grenade back at him, but he doesn't have to hit you with it. He just aims to your left or in front of you and you still get stunned.
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>>339423132
>Reaper
>Widow counter

Unless you spend half the match look for a flank and avoid being scene, you'll just get headshotted coming out of your teleport.
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>>339423129
Genji's double jump just synergizes too well with the fucking 20 tick rate and is otherwise pretty weak. Tracer is fine.
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>>339417942
Die...
DIE!! DIEE!!!!!
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>>339423102
Duelist first, hitscan shooter second. Most characters have 3 counters, he's one of pharahs along with soldier and widow. His M1 does good damage at mid range, piss poor beyond that.

He was designed from the ground up to be THE 1v1 guy. Its why he has nothing but damage, no utility whatsoever.
>>339423129
They doubled the flash and reload after fans. Tracers and genjis were blink/dash/recalling out of it so he wasn't doing anything to them.
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>>339421698
Bastion
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>>339423351
Like I said, neither have counters without McCree.

You ever played against a good Tracer? She'll harass your Mercy constantly and literally never die then once she has ult the double blinks, stickies your healer, blinks out, and repeats.

McCree is the only one who can stop her.
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>>339423415
>no utility whatsoever.
Are you forgetting his AOE stun
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>>339423347
Hey I don't disagree with you, but it was blizzards intent for him to be a counter to her. They went about it terribly but Widow is honestly the most busted hero in this game bar none. People just complain about Mcree more because you can be effective with him at low skill levels, whereas she doesn't become a terror until high skill levels.
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>>339422718
Tracer Bomb.
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>>339423415
>no utility whatsoever

>can throw a flashbang over a fucking reinhardt's shield to stun him
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>>339423172
Genji doesn't counter any of those HARD. A good Genji will win over a mccree, but a smart mccree won't instantly throw flashbang on a mccree. And wont stand long enough in the open to be hit by shurikens.

Zarya has laser so she can bypass his deflect. She doesn't kill him as easily as Winston or Symmetra but he in no way counters her.

Pharah will probably lose to a Genji in enclosed spaces, where it's easy to deflect the rockets back at her, but if she's far away then a Genji should just fuck off
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>>339421393
is there a source on this?
i don't necessarily doubt it, but i'd like to see proof
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>>339423346
You don't have to be near him to kill him. You harass him down at range then charge in for the kill. Anyone shooting at you is free damage to kill McCree
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>>339418739
Fan the hammer doesn't headshot
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>play McCree on koth
>team is shit
>I have 35 elims and 15k damage done with half the effort I put into doing good as tracer or pharah

Broken
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>>339423609
Reaper is more a counter to tanks than a Widow counter. He's not very mobile outside of his telegraphed teleport.
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>>339423083
we tried, and the pub was actually somewhat coordinated and we would get behind the shield only to have 4 more turrets killing us from the sides and rear as we approached the point.

>>339423153
nope, 2 of us went pharah and would immediately get picked off after getting off maybe 2 rockets. Widowmaker could snipe one of the turrets, but after approaching the point theres just too many of them to deal wih
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>>339422180
>Based dorf is the perfect height for staring at asses
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>>339423716
That would be true if McCree couldn't just kill you from range as well. That's like saying everyone counters McCree because you just harass him at range.
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>>339423692
Somewhere. I didn't save it but I remember seeing it in an interview a few days to a week prior to release when the question about how balanced they feel the game right is right now came up
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>>339423594
He's one of the few who can take advantage of it and despite all the hyperbole you really have to be up someones asshole to get that stun to do anything to more than 1 person. Nowhere near the utility of any other offensive hero. Reaper, tracer, genji are amazing scouts and skirmishers, Soldier has a team heal, Pharah has disruption and the ability to plink down people from range. He's a close range murder bot, that's all.
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>>339423637
I meant pharah and zarya counters mccree as well. Zarya gets a free damage off of his fan then can proceed to buttfuck him. Pharah can just rain rockets into a room and kill him without even needing to get close.
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>>339423851

Is that why McCree has the highest pick rate out of all heroes except lucio?
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>>339423493
76 does very well against both solo. Genji is actually pretty weak and doesn't really need hard countering.
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>>339423851
He can throw it at the top of Rein's shield and stun Rein. He can throw it 3 feet in front of Genji and stun him with it so he can't deflect. It stuns turrets. I think you are seriously underestimating the range of the grenade.
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>>339423818
Alright you try to shoot with your pistol while I shoot my three shurikens with no falloff at range. Trust me Genji wins that fight.
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>>339419816
>PUMP IT UP
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>>339423936
People just need to learn how to counter him :^)
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It's confirmed - only women and Australians don't know proper trigger discipline

Except for Pharah
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I've recently taken to playing Widowmaker, but I don't play her like anyone else I've seen. I basically use her as a super-vertically-mobile Soldier 76, always either contesting the point if it needs to be and dropping poison bombs in the enemy's path, or changing position every shot or two.

Getting four golds as a sniper means your team was absolutely worthless, though.
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The real tank killers are the supports desu, primarily Zenyatta and Symmetra.
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>>339424008
>thinking you're going to hit a mobile target at long range with genji shurikens
>meanwhile McCree has a hitscan revolver

kek
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>>339423851
>you really have to be up someones asshole to get that stun to do anything to more than 1 person
Please.

Look at the AOE in this webm. Throw it into any KOTH point and you're gonna hit more than one so often.
>>339421068
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>>339418413
Did Japan even like westerns?
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>>339424047
No they do. They pick McCree in response.
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>>339424008
Yeah sure a Mccree will just stay in the open long enough to get killed by shurikens, especially when he prefers enclosed spaces
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>>339422180
>giocare overwatch in italiano
ammazzati
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>>339420705
if he gets nerf'd, then so should tanks (especially roadhog) then, McCree was made to be a bunker buster when it comes to certain heroes, if anything, the one who needs to get the nerf hammer bad is Mei

>buh buh but he can stun and fan the hammer on anyone
don't be an idiot nd put yourself in that situation, also if you know how mcree players are, the moment they see you in thier face they will almost instinctively try to stun you, pick genji, he really does fuck mcree up with 3 stars to the face and a swift blade for a quick finish
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>>339423936
He has the highest pick rate because hero stacking and lucio speed boost. He's picked because offensive teams can just speed boost his slow ass into melee range instantly to burst people down and then continue to burst with repeated fans.

Fan is the problem, put a cooldown on it that resets with roll and he'd be fixed. It would stop him from bursting an entire team, instead he would do what he was supposed to do(burst a tank or win a 1v1) instead of just chain gunning down everyone within 10 feet.
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>>339423975
>76 does very well against both solo
1] He can't kill either of them solo.
2] In a hectic firefight around his team he won't be able to reliably hit them as they chip away at your back line and build up their ults.
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>>339418913

>Play Soldier like a secondary medic when we have someone like Zenyatta on the team
>No one comes to me for healing, whenever I do put down healing people just continue to run around.

I want a Nurse 76 outfit.
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My only gripe with McCree is that any retard can pick him and be an absolute terror in your average game.

The skill floor is in the fucking basement so it's so irritating to die to him.
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>>339424185
You mean how it didn't stun him? Because there was an instant shuriken afterwards, that genji could have easily deflected.
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>>339423738
I actually think Tracer is easier, since her E literally undoes anything that just happened to you except a flashbang smack. I've gotten out of Roadhog hooks with it way more than I have of Mcree pocket sand.
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yell on discord to let my team know there's a McCree around ,then i wait for my death.
if im lucky, my team kills him, or he's bad so i can escape
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>>339424302
I just run to the others and force heal them personally. Also I tend to run to soldiers and request healing but they never bother.
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>>339424263
Eventually he will; he won't always stay a cave troll. A good one anyways.
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>>339424418
>You mean how it didn't stun him?
Am I being baited right now or are you legitimately blind
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>>339424079
>Well trained soldiers and mercenaries know what trigger discipline is
>Civilians, gang members, and women don't

I like that level of detail on Blizzard's part.
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>>339424282
Tracer he bursts with rockets and a couple bullets, and without rockets can still win with good aim and E (though he should be trying to maneuver back to team). Genji he just shoots, he can either pause during reflect and resume shooting/rocket or use splash rockets if he feels like it.
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>>339424470

I do that but they never stop once the healing is down.
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>>339424003
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, Tanks need a counter. If he stops being able to kill them then its up to reaper and pharah alone to deal with it and both can't burst a tank being healed.
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>>339424079
>junkrat
>roadhog
>any discipline what so ever

agree with the others though.
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>>339424276
>if anything, the one who needs to get the nerf hammer bad is Mei
Opinion completely disregarded
Mei is absolute bottom tier no meme intended
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>>339424185
>McCree is so easy his flashbang has a huge AoE!!!
>Look at this webm where he misses his stun!!

Nani?
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>>339424434
If you got out of a road hog hook as anything but another tank, that hog fucked up.
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>>339424563
symmetra melts rein in 5 seconds
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>>339424502
There was time to react, that genji could have defected. Stop being bad.
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>>339421556
>weather
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>>339424606
Are you retarded?
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>>339424563
There is something wrong with it if the side effect is that he wrecks the entire cast. It's just poorly thought out on blizzards part.
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>>339424079
PHARAH CONFIRMED TRANS
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>>339424515
You're going to hit the most mobile character in the game with slow ass helix rockets? Really? Stop playing with bad Tracers.

Like I said, Soldier76 stalemates Tracer and has nothing to stop her from killing his back line.
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>>339424418
>You mean how it didn't stun him?
nigga what are you smoking

>that genji could have easily deflected.
No it couldn't because McCree didn't throw it at him, it stunned him with the AOE
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>>339424079
It kinda makes sense for roadhog and junkrat character-wise because they're insane and reckless. Widdow has no fucking excuse tho.
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>>339424670
It exploded in midair.

>>339424737
It
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Rewind with tracer. Two can play cheap.
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>>339424638
If he's retarded and doesn't swing his hammer or firestrike her sure.
>>339424721
As I've said a million times, fan needs a cooldown nerf. Nothing more.
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>>339424638
>Picking Symmetra just to counter Reinhardt
>Implying you won't get blown up as you try to walk up to melee range just so your gun works

>>339424703
Are you?
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>>339424434
At least you have to aim with tracer.
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>>339424763
Watch again. He threw shurikens after he got stunned; he had time to deflect.
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>>339422042
>You do realize if you reflect he can just throw the grenade in front of you and still stun you right.

that is straight up bullshit, I mostly play Genji and I promise you, the reflected flashbang will stun McCree not you
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>>339424763
>gets stunned
>throws a shuriken instead of deflecting or dashing
Nah, bad as fuck Genji. Stun didn't do shit there.
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>>339424815
>not using alt fire.
Come on.
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>>339424815
assuming you're not a complete total idiot when placing turrets and positioning yourself, symmetra is a goat hero in defense, a slowed down rein attacking on hanamura is literally instashotted by symmetra
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>>339424802
You can't rewind when you're dead silly.
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>>339424276
Heres the thing. It doesn't matter who YOU think should be nerfed. All that matters is the numbers. Until Mei has a 133% pick rate in the pro circuit, shes not getting a nerf
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>>339424737
Helix is a lot faster than Pharah rockets. 76 owns Tracer at midrange, can fend her off at long by chipping to where she wants to stay out of LOS, and can hold his own up close even without rockets.
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>>339424846
holy fuck nigga you're actually retarded like can you not notice the 25 damage flashbang and HUD stun effect

what is happening actually
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>>339419375
>52 eliminations as Genji
>35 being objective kills
>no commending

Literally did all the work and get nothing for it
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>>339424815
The webm clearly shows the Genji getting stunned.
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>>339424948
rewind as soon as you see it coming/ pray he doesn't hit you enough so you can recover. But yea your fucked in most instances.
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>>339424849
What he means is McCree can just fart a grenade at the floor in front of you / at a wall / above or next to you, and it will stun you when you're trying to deflect it
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You do realize that without McCree, nobody will be able to stop Reaper from sneaking around and two-shotting most of the enemy team from behind. McCree is his number 1 counter and keeping Reaper from being picked right now.
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>>339424957
Yeah soldier doesn't do too bad against her as long as he headshots and predicts her blinks. Only problem is her time rewind. All the close kills I've had against her only for her to just say "oops I fucked up again, time to undo" is infuriating
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>>339425000
Are you actually retarded? Are you purposefully ignoring the part where the genji has time to react after the .2 second flashbang where he could have easily dashed or deflected?
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>>339425041
getting kills is easy. How far did you push the payload?
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>>339424883
What Genji did is absolutely irrelevant to the size of McCree's flashbang area of effect and how it can stun multiple people easily
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>>339425000
You're talking to someone else. Doesn't matter he got stunned its not that good because genji could have done something there.
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>>339424605
mains Mei confirmed.

bottom tier my ass, the moment that cow hits your with the freeze, there goes your movement speed and mouse sensitivity down the shitter.
dont worry just ice yourself in to heal and pray your teammates clean up shop

most of the time, she lands the ez pz freezes, and then secondary fires into your head for massive damage

oh and unlike flashbang cooldown, your shit can and will get frozen again faster than a flashbang cooldown if you somehow survive the first freeze
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>>339425147
If mcree gets a serious nerf the game will turn into tracer/genji simulator featuring reaper from dmc.
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>D.Va will never not be shit
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>Join a game
>enemy team is 6 tracers
>Then they switch to 6 Mcrees
>After that they switch to 3 Meis and 3 Hanzos

Why did I let you convince me to buy this, /v/?
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>>339422505
He probably got 34 eliminations from two rounds of a KOTH map.
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>>339425147
McCree is also one of like two things that can kill Tracer reliably and that's ONLY if he has his flashbang ready in a heartbeat before a blink.

Seriously, Tracer is pretty much unkillable for most classes unless it's a dumb tracer.

>>339425196
It was KOTH and my objective time was silver medal
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>>339425171
>>339425216
Then why the fuck did that guy chime in with something entirely irrelevant to the original point lmao holy fuck
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>>339424815
Do you not notice the cum staining the edges of genji's screen?
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Since Blizzard admitted the removal of in-game scoreboards and relevant stats from the game (kdr, introduction of team eliminations and streaks) to favor "playing for the objective, not for the score", what is in your opinion the most relevant stat in terms of shitters and skilled individuals?
I'd say the On Fire Time one, what else?
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>>339425196
Genji is legitimately the hardest character to get kills with. So many other characters does that job without doing the extra work.
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>>339425216
Genji did do something there. He got McCree'd. Deflect wouldn't have deflected it because it blew up before it got to him.
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>be lvl 21, need 45 currency to get sweet genji intro highlight thing
>be lvl 30, still need 25 more.

seriously, Mcree sucks, but cmon. 9 fucking loot boxes and no fucking money.
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>>339425147
Mcree counters everything so this isn't a serious argument.

It's like saying a all powerful character is fair because he can stop everything from working.
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>>339424206
yeah Japan loves cowboys
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>>339425215
>Irrelevant
ha, okay bud. You were spouting on and on about how its bullshit and then post a webm where the player could easily stop it from being a problem
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