This game isn't fun on soloqueue.
If your team is doing badly, you probably are too, unless you're playing a character like McCree or a sniper and aren't helping that much with the actual objective. If you try to win when your team has two Hanzos on it you're punished by continually getting in 4V2s where you will probably only feed their support ult meter and die. Because of counters and cooldowns, the game is designed so that no player, other than maybe a hacking Widowmaker, can truly carry a bad team. In TF2 there were a handful of character match ups you would surely lose, in this game there are tons. Most of the cast cannot 1V1 a full health Tracer or Winston. Half of the game is character selection.
Plus, there are a lot of ults that you cannot conceivably avoid and basically guarantee your death, like Reinhardt's ground pound, Mei's ult if it's placed well, and Tracer's bomb.
We need more Overwatch threads
How many Overwatch threads have we seen so far today ?
>>339384207
plenty
>>339382736
Cool story bro, when's the movie coming out?
>thread makes genuine criticism
>now people complain about how many OW threads there are to divert attention
And people say /v/ doesn't have shills
>>339384860
>Cool story bro
>>>/b/
>>339384938
Cool story bro.
>>339382736
>This game isn't fun on soloqueue.
This. Every game has Hanzo/Genji/Widowmaker/Reaper and sometimes Tracer. All the time they are useless. I've seen so many Widows/Hanz camp at some point near the enemy spawn, hoping to get a straggler while our point get capped. But honestly, I can't really blame them. Support characters just die to so much shit and are dependant on people to protect them that playing one is like pulling your teeth.
And don't get me started about the fucking retarded, DotA2-esque matchmaking that pits you and 5 paraleptic sloths against premades just to make sure your winrate stays down.
>play support in the beginning
>get semi competent team mates that protect me
>win a lot
>now I am in games with people who bitch that we need a healer but rarely do anything to help them
>>339382736
>>339386554
So this game is only good if you play with people you know/have premades? Guess I should avoid it then.
>>339386554
I wouldn't say Reaper and Tracer are useless. Tracer is if she's bad but they aren't always. Reaper is one of the more useful characters for a team if the team is really bad because he can almost independently wipe out a push, although he's very inconsistent.
Playing support isn't a good way to carry a bad team, it's better to pick Zarya or Soldier 76. Supports help good teams with several front line fighters, they don't do much of anything for bad teams with several snipers working on their K/D
>>339384938
is this nigga for real
I have 85% win rate, you can carry in this game, what the fuck is OP talking
>>339387390
Post your stats from https://masteroverwatch.com/
>>339387097
Yes. Don't get this if you plan on playing solo.
>>339387097
>>339387607
Premades even get a 20% exp bonus for winning.
Its really not fair to people like me who dont have any freinds who play blizz games. I que up to get slaughtered over and over and over again!
I'm curious as to why blizz wouldnt set it up to where premades only play against other premades and pugs play only pugs?
>>339388826
>Its really not fair to people like me who dont have any freinds who play blizz games
I would be your friend
>>339388826
Pretty much all Blizzard games are like that though. The only game when you can actually go solo is SC2 and their old RTS games.
Everything else is designed around teams and punish solo play so I am not sure why people thought this would be any different.
>>339382736
>In TF2 there were a handful of character match ups you would surely lose
only if you where pure shit
kill yourself
>>339388826
>Premades even get a 20% exp bonus for winning.
Wait, what?
It is pretty clear that premades are the intended way of playing and soloQ is just a necessary evil for them.
If they set up premades against premades it would take way too long to find a match, unless they made it 6 man premades or none, simply because it would take too long to puzzle premades together.
>>339389108
Scout is very unlikely to kill heavy.
Medic is very unlikely to kill Soldier, Scout, or Demo if they're good.
>>339389184
>If they set up premades against premades it would take way too long to find a match
They do that, or at least try to. When I soloqueue, I get in instantly. Playing with 3 players takes 30 seconds to a minute, playing with 4 or 5 can take 2 minutes to find a game. And I see plenty of teams full of the same character and they all leave at once, so I can only assume they're also premades.
>>339389351
and you have just demonstrated how shit you are at TF2
Scout is the most powerful class and scout rapes heavies. and if you dies to a demo or soldier or even a scout, you where out of place and probably deserve it
People regularly refuse to play If I play scout or medic, because i play the fucking objective
>>339382736
>Getting yelled at by guy playing Reaper
>"You suck anon, we are losing because of you!"
>We lose
>I got 5 golds
Yep, totally my fault.
>win a lot
>guess my opponents and team mates will get better and on my level to make a more enjoyable game
>instead my team mates get worse and worse and my opponents better
I can not imagine a single reason why you would have it that way. Punishing someone for playing well is so idiotic and kills all interest I have in those games.
>>339389563
>you where out of place and probably deserve it
I agree with this, unless your team is hopelessly bad in which case you shouldn't be playing medic. Doesn't change the fact that the MU is essentially something the medic has to avoid if he wants to live.
>Scout is the most powerful class and scout rapes heavies
Heavy outdamages Scout at every range and has more much health. Scout has more mobility but aiming Heavy's cursor roughly towards the Scout is braindead easy. Good Scouts try to kill Heavies by double jumping in circles around them and hoping they're bad, but they almost never choose to engage Heavies unless it's absolutely necessary.
>>339382736
>soloqueueing it up
>pick McCree because I genuinely enjoy his playstyle
>on attack on Temple of Anubis
>two people pick Genji and one picks Widowmaker
>we manage to cap the first point because I sneak around and ambush the enemy
>get completely stalled at point B because the Widowmaker and one of the Genjis refuses to switch to something more useful
>lose because 40% of our team is dead weight
Getting real tired of this shit.
>>339389852
>instead my team mates get worse and worse and my opponents better
So im not the only one. I pretty much have consistently done 40% of my teams damage every single game (via the endgame voting thing) as well as gold on objective and eliminations, and lose. Meanwhile grapplesniping widowmakers and tracers who can 1v4 my team. This games already got to the point I can't be bothered to play anymore.
>>339383914
Let's go back to 5 dark souls threads a day.
>>339389852
>>339390274
Forced 50 probably isn't real because some players have very good win percentages. Also, it doesn't really make sense. If you're trying to fuck over good players, how does it make sense to stack one team with bad players and two good players and the other one with mostly good players? If this happened consistently competent players would probably have higher winrates, not lower ones.
>>339390091
>Heavy outdamages Scout at every range
Please continue to demonstrate how shit you are.
the minigun is effectivly a close range weapon, and every shitter, like you, treats it like a sniper rifle.
the fucking Pistol beats the minigun at midrange and above.
No scout worth their salt fucking losses to a heavy
>>339390274
Yes, the better you do the worse your player experience gets. That is exactly the opposite of why I want to play well: I want good teams, close games.
It is even worse because I play mostly supports and am really able to turn shit around in a competent team. But now that everyone around me is trash it makes 0 sense picking a support.
>>339390772
You should add decent people and queue with them.
>Time to queue up with 3 buddies
>"hey man can my friend join"
>Lv.7
>Oh boy
>He fucking sucks anus dick
>Lose all will to play the game as we get absolutely stomped by teams
>Last random alone on the other side of the map
>"I need healing!"
>"group up with me"
>"group up with me"
>"group up with me"
>"group up with me"
>Goes in alone and dies to torb turret
I just wanted a fun shooter, but in the end all I got was dissapointment in another esports(tm) game that doesn't allow you to carry the game by yourself
At least with battlefield the margin is evened out by the sheer amount of players
Do I really have to start denying friends a spot in my groups because they are literally incapable of videogames?
>>339390730
The pistol may outdamage the minigun at long range, but the Scout's mobility is less useful at that range and the Scout also has less health. If the heavy has a medic or nearby health packs, a Scout sniping them with a pistol is not going to kill them as the Heavy will just seek cover and heal. It would be a waste for both characters.
>>339389184
Yeah I guess it does punish people who dont have friends that consistently play the game.
>>339390989
protip: premades get matched against equally sized premades
chances are the other premades don't have a retard in them
>>339391061
> but the Scout's mobility is less useful at that range
U W0t M8
>and the Scout also has less health
why does that matter when you are both taking less damage from the range, and the spread, and by using terrain?
>shooting the heavy before killing the medic
Absolute shitter
Kill
Yourself
>>339390989
yeah this happened to me with some dudes from work
one guy is okay all of the other people were total shit and we got rolled worse than I've ever been rolled before
>>339391439
>kill medic and then, while you are still alive because the heavy hasn't killed you despite probably being next to the medic, you run six hundred feet away and waste time sniping the heavy when you probably will not kill him
>U W0t M8
He can dart in and out of cover but at long range the Scout cannot dodge a weapon with the spread of a minigun. If you're assuming cover exists this exchange wouldn't be happening at all.
>>339390160
>plays dps hero
>bitches that the other dps heros won't switch to tank or support
this is why the game sucks
>>339382736
Horseshit
Game is obviously more fun with friends & your win ratio is better but it's still fun to solo que
I carry teams as Junkrat with ease
>>339392005
Junkrat's so fucking boring
He is good for carrying though
>>339391805
Please continue to write into the record how you are absolute shit at TF2
inb4 archive
>>339392178
>Junkrat's so fucking boring
I'm also sick and fucking tired of Assault maps, why the fuck in 2016 (current year) can I not veto maps that I don't want to play?
Why the fuck don't we get an option to select as a collective of 12 people what map we should play on next? perhaps a choice out of 3?
I dont want to do fucking Hanamura again and again and again with a symmetra blocking one side giggling to himself whenever your retarded teammates walk into the obvious trap and a bastion on the other
Why can't I just queue for JUST the control maps
>>339392193
I'm shit but so are you. Good Scouts don't kill Heavies by sniping with the pistol, that's fucking dumb.
>>339392516
This, I'm sick of fucking escorting. Attacking or defending, I really just don't enjoy them. Lately I seem to be getting a ton of the capture 1 control point that than becomes an escort.
Really I just want more gametypes. Kinda hard to believe the game launched with only Capture and Escort, just mindboggling.
>>339392516
>>339393725
>I prefer KOTH
Disgusting
>>339394147
As a solo queue, escorts become your team rez'ing 1 by 1 and rushing in to get killed. As a tank or support I'm usually fucked with everyone spread all over. Gets pretty fucking old.
At least in point capture you all tend to die around the same time and can organize.
>>339384938
cringed
>>339382736
hmmm i dont know some of the harasser characters work fine on your own.
Premade thread?
Everyone just does their own thing in soloq one game I had 3 genji's doing parkour the whole time it was fun
