![crysis_02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kZUHATW.jpg "crysis_02[1].jpg")
>graphics peaked in 2007
Why are """""good""""" graphics still a thing?
Star Wars Battlefront has taken the graphics crown from Crysis.
>>339346110
>>339346272
It's a worse game with less actual advanced graphics. Crysis was always shitposted as a tech demo but BF is -literally- just that.
It looks nicer in screenshots but it's not very impressive. That's why it runs above 30fps on consoles.
>>339346110
>>339346272
>>339346362
Almost makes me want to play it. Then I remember how mind-numbingly simple it is.
Improvements were made with char models
>>339346439
>>339346439
Oh man I will always be impressed of how ahead of their time they were
A lot of screenshots don't do the games justice since they leave out a lot of tech
>>339346624
JUST
>>339346272
>>339346362
In screenshots it might be impressive, but the LOD distance is shit and if you get real close to the elements and characters you will see that they are not that good.
>>339346439
Oh wow, lel epic slow mo explosion. You sure showed them!
>>339346272
The only thing thats better are the models and textures of environment, and the only reason for that is that they actually went to places the movies took place and scanned the environment.
You could do the same with Crysis, its not actually better graphics. Thats like saying Euclideon tech demos have better graphics than everything.
How can PC even compete?
>>339346023
>"""""
Hey reddit when will you stop thinking this crap is funny or whatever?
>>339346668
Every single snow flake in the game is physically rendered, meaning if you throw a grenade the displaced air will move it. This goes for a lot of other particles and models in the game too.
Dice games have good destruction and stuff but Crysis is still overall better.
>>339346528
>screencap from the TV show
>>339346861
Didn't know you could install sweetfx presets on PS4
>>339346956
>Every single snow flake in the game is physically rendered
You are literally retarded
>>339347064
not him, but technically thats true
>>339347040
Almost any TV can do anything sweetfx does, besides SMAA
>>339346272
A ton of games have taken the Crysis crown. /v/ is just very autistic when it comes to graphics.
>>339347064
I'm speaking in laymans terms if that's what's triggering you.
Nice argument though!
>>339346439
That explosion is almost as bad as the one in the Might No. 9 trailer.
>>339346439
Man that "crysis is just a tech demo" shit used to rustle my jimmies.
THIS IS NOT A REAL LIFE PHOTO
I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A REAL LIFE PHOTO
Is playing battlefront worth it? I don't mind shallow multiplayer gameplay. I have over 120 hours in MW2 on PC.
>>339347172
No they didn't. There were few games that looked better at a first glance, but none have come close to the level of technology Crysis had, not even its own sequels.
>>339347225
Red faction Guerilla did it better and was on PS3/X360
If they didn't spend all the money and time hyping up the graphics, how would they sell a new engine, a new box, a new graphics card, and most importantly, the same games you've already played with a fresh coat of paint.
>>339346956
Wait, did they actually put a giant particle emitter above the map?
>>339347375
MW2 has far more depth than Battlefront
>>339347262
Pay attention to the explosion displaying millions of volumetric particles(smoke, sparks, dust).
Not many games do that, no games do it to the extent of Cry Engine.
>>339347421
That game was cool.
>>339347386
Only """technology"""" im seeing is you posting a couple modded physics effects
>>339347537
>crysis
>volumetric particles
lol
>>339347537
>modern consoles are easily able to do this as Crysis ran on machines 20x weaker
>no game uses it
Epic game developers. Epic
>>339347504
>Using a screencap from twitch
Nice try PCkek
>>339347609
I think the cpu has a lot to do with the physics side though
Well we know the neo is using the same shitty cpu but the scorpio might have a zen which would mean it can most definitely handle it and then some
Devs are just shitty in general though.
>>339347375
Battlefront will show you the true meaning of shallow.
If you're hardcore SW fan and really don't care about gameplay, go ahead.
>>339347504
>using the material from 2,5 years ago
?
There are actually people here who think Crysis can hold a candle to 2016 graphics
>>339347609
>modern consoles are easily able to do this as Crysis ran on machines 20x weaker
At below 720p if you wanted 30fps. 1080p wasn't remotely close to a norm in 2007.
That's using mods galore and the game is beyond maxed out. The PS4 would shit itself trying to play it.
>Crysis the pinnacle of PC technology can't even render a mirror
>while a console game can
>>339347560
I'm not posting the webms you retard. Nice """""" meme though, exquisite.
>>339347697
Nah PS4 or Xone could easily handle a game like Crysis (1) at max details with all of those physics mods.
As much as people dont want to admit it Crysis isnt even the game to test your new PC anymore. Its just an old game with some impressive stuff but really nothing special now. Like Half life 2 was 4 years ago.
>>339346439
>That's why it runs above 30fps on consoles
So does Crysis you fucking idiot...
>>339347810
Oh wow, a mirror in a tiny room, so impressive.
>>339347771
Battlefront rapes it and it runs at 900p/60fps on the Bone
>>339347903
And yet Crysis has a bathroom, a tiny room, and the mirror doesn't work. How come?
>>339347501
Ouch. Now that's a statement.
>>339347810
Heavy Rain looks pretty good.
Because it's a transitional period. Believe it or not, we reached the peak of what we could do with traditional graphics techniques a few years ago. Now it's all about physically based rendering, which requires a major shift in how games are designed on a technical and artistic level. Proper PBR allows everything to look massively better, from the lights to the materials, regardless of whether the game's art style is realistic or not.
But even this can't save a game from poor art direction or performance constraints. And when it comes down to it, the best looking games in any generation are borne on smoke and mirrors. and flashy graphical effects. Graphics can't be quantified any more because the tools are there for any random person to implement PBR techniques into their game. Just look at this Doom 3. This is the lowest you can get and it still looks eye pleasing.
Crysis is butt ugly I can't believe people still think it looks good.
>>339346439
TECH
>>339347810
Brb buying a PS4. Gotta support mirrors in modern games.
>>339347849
The PS4's max potential is to play PS3 games that ran at 720p 30fps(with drops naturally) at 1080p 60fps(most games are 1080p 30fps though, MGSV was one of the rare exceptions).
Crysis 1 on consoles was a downgraded piece of shit that ran on average at 20fps.
Crysis 1 with mods runs significantly worse than the vanilla game maxed out and the console version of it was a hilarious joke running on a downgraded engine.
Don't kid yourself, follow the logic and evidence and figure out how you are wrong.
>>339348061
>The PS4's max potential is to play PS3 games that ran at 720p 30fps
Battlefront or Uncharted 4 would burn the PS3 in 3 seconds
>>339348102
Other movie games ran just fine on the PS3.
>>339347386
always thought it was funny how the sequels were so much less impressive
>>339348227
But this looks like shit
>>339347537
i really love how crysis has a really nice 3rd person view
>>339348102
Battlefront isn't much more impressive than the Battlefield or Crysis games which ran on last gen and Uncharted 4 runs at 30fps, thus it has nothing to do with what I said.
It's comparable to Tomb Raider 2013 and other movie games though which are last-gen games.
>>339347386
>>339348232
Maybe Crysis 3 is less impressive than 1 when it was released but its a fact that it looks way better and you dont need 100 mods to make it look "modern".
>>339348247
looks better than uncharted 4 ;)
>>339348232
Its because they were made with consoles in mind.
>>339348357
>That hair on the black bitch
Looks pretty good
>>339348325
And it's a fact that Crysis doesn't even have ten graphics mods and the majority of them don't do anything.
>>339347313
kek
>>339348487
And without those mods it looks like dogshit.
With too but thats another story
>>339347963
Because it still renders areas outside, Uncharted 4 never renders more than small environment, which is why it can run on such limited hardware.
>>339348586
This is Crysis without mods.
>>339348645
>Uncharted 4 never renders more than small environment
Safari Chapter is as big as a Crysis level.
Which really dosnt mean much because Crysis levels were small as shit contrary to some beliefs.
>>339348667
>those textures on the right
>the awful snow effect
The nanosuit looks good tho.
Also use less Dof you shitter
>>339348812
tell me more
>>339348881
>The lack of grass on the rigth
>that shitty lightning
>those fucking rocks
Are there any good torrents for Crysis? I haven't played it in a really long time and want to see how well it would run on my modern-day toaster.
>>339348881
Why is there jelly instead of water
>>339346861
>posts a screenshot which shows BioShock Infinite tier graphics
You should post that .webm with the falling stones, people fall for that shit.
>>339348928
you're pretty good at this
>>339347375
Battlefront is a prime example of EA saying "full steam to the graphical, sound design and marketing budgets so our game looks good and is everywhere, fuck everything else, they'll buy it first because it looks shiny and regret it too late to bother refunding"
If it were a movie it would have been nice, but as a game, it's horribly underwhelming
t. played it at a casual friend's house
>>339349140
>Tiling water
>Fuck all LOD
>Brown and bloom
>>339349186
> "full steam to the graphical, sound design and marketing budgets so our game looks good and is everywhere, fuck everything else, they'll buy it first because it looks shiny and regret it too late to bother refunding"
This is how you sell 10 million copies.
>>339349186
Are they reusing that engine for a real game or what?
>>339347537
>>339346439
>>339346023
this looks objectively bad in 2016
>>339346956
This looks good.
>>339347225
this looks terrible
fucking Just Cause 3 looks better than Crysis did
Let it go. The game was amazing for a very long time, but it just doesn't hold up anymore, not without mods.
>>339349252
you're slipping.
>>339349326
Then why did Crysis 1 sell 1 milion copies in almost 10 years?
>>339349586
Crysis 1 sold over 5 million many years ago.
>>339349468
>That awful vegetation
>That yellow piss filter whatever it is that dosn't let me see anything
>>339348714
Unsuprisingly that area doesn't hold up as well graphically.
>>339349326
The headbobbing and the fact that I remember people being impressed by this years ago makes this hilarious
>>339349326
Thanks for the headache
>>339349673
>>339348954
1. open kickass/piratebay
2. type Crysis into search bar
3. sort by seeds
4. click on magnet icon next to the first result
>>339349140
It aint me
It aint meee
>>339349814
?
>>339349814
Everything looks like plastic
>>339349814
Those hard edged polygonal plants look disgusting
>>339349921
>>339346439
>>339346362
>Those branches and leaf at the top part.
>That muddy motion blur everywhere.
>Them lifeless foliage and tress.
Get your eyes checked, please.
>>339350079
>That fucking 2d tree
>>339346023
Because if they weren't then companies would actually have to focus on gameplay and god damn we just can't have that.
Crysis is as old now as doom when crysis was released and it still looks decent.
>>339350176
>I don't know what 2d means
>>339346023
improvements are still being made but it's been diminishing returns since 2007 for sure and gameplay has suffered greatly
>>339347375
It's pretty much dead on anything other than the ps4 so if you're not playing on that don't bother.
>>339350442
uh what?
>>339346023
cant show gameplay at e3
SW:B looks miles better than Crysis 1
>>339351301
>scanned environment looks better than one modelled in 2006-7
Doesn't mean the game is more graphically/technologically impressive.
>this was once considered good graphics
how time flies
>>339346110
Shit game but god dayum frostbite lighting is ridiculous.
>>339351426
actually, it does.
>>339351621
rather play this than uncharted 4
>>339351621
I'd play this and Perfect Dark right now if I could use a keyboard and mouse.
Crytek worked so hard to make a game with good graphics.
And DICE just curbstomped them effortlessly.
>>339350079
I love these enemies. Why did they take them out of the sequels?
>>339352650
They weren't generic enough.
>>339352591
>DICE created a game 10 years later that used scanned environments that look better, while literally everything else in the game looks on par or worse than Crysis from 10 years ago
Man, DICE sure showed them who's the boss.
>>339346439
Too bad this has been modded to shit. Vanilla is nothing like this.
Crysis fanboys cling to their fossil of a game.
DICE ushers us into a new age of graphics.
>>339347963
REKT
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K
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>>339346624
>Glaucoma-MickaëlBaya-symptom.mp4
>>339350140
>Those branches and leaf at the top part.
any foliage looks bad when the camera clips through it.
>That muddy motion blur everywhere.
you can turn of motion blur.
>Them lifeless foliage and tress.
foliage moves when there is wind and explosions, and players moving through it, it's very well done in motion.
>>339353214
simply ebin
>>339347810
This shit is triggering my my inner autismatic sense...
>>339347810
>it's not even a reflection, it's a prebake with a premade reflected model
Good job Consoles.
>>339352591
Too bad Frostbite can't do physics for shit
<l:0)
>>339352591
but it had a much bigger budget
>>339347040
UC4 has a photomode with loads of filters.
>>339353954
>artstyle>>>>>>>>>>graphics
Fite me
>>339355162
No need. You're clearly right. Graphics are tools in the toolbox but give them to a chimp and it won't matter. You need capable craftsmanship to get the most out of them.
>>339347983
we can go lower
>>339346023
This doesn't look good anymore.
>>339355162
If a game isn't going for an artstyle, say Witcher 3 for example, pure graphics will matter. If you're going stylistic like Dishonored, graphics do still matter but you're way more lenient with it. Or some shit.
>>339355329
>>339355886
Wow two quality kind,thoughtful replies
How odd,god day sir
>>339346023
Why don't we focus on putting more enemies on the screen instead of trying to up polys/texture size?
We could easily have Doom 2 level of enemies everywhere with 3D graphics but no one does it.
>>339356417
This.
Star Ruler 2 handles thousands without problems because it uses low-poly ships which still actually look pretty good.
>>339356417
because they'd have to be glorified meat pinatas, no one could take that much fire at once
>>339356671
>not having the skill to deal with large groups of enemies
>>339346023
I hate this meme.
>>339346272
It's too small to compare
>>339356819
Holy shit
I didn't know somebody other than me played Ring Runner.
>>339357607
http://steamcharts.com/app/258010
>24 hour peak of 18 players
>>339353954
Mirrors are just an alternate reality in the Uncharted world. Don't worry about it.
>>339353954
>>339347810
How can mirrors be real when our eyes are not ?
>>339346023
Don't really give a shit about graphics anymore, I just need them to be serviceable and coherent with the art direction. Gameplay is where it's at.
>>339348714
and the safari chapter didn't have any mirrors, what's your point?
>>339355162
you need graphics to bring out an artstyle.
>>339355162
I'll take decent graphics + shit artstyle over 2 fps 480i + good artstyle any day.
>>339355727
>22 FPS
this is lower than toaster
this is lower than potato
this is republican
>>339355727
>800x600
woah there cowboy you expect me to render all those pixels? take it down to 320x240
>>339353954
Exposed
>>339348232
Crysis was a PC game. Crysis 2 and 3 were console games.
I feel like this multiple quotation mark shit is straight out of reddit or similar and should be a permabannable offense.
>>339346861
>It's a face
Wow great gameplay!
>>339350203
is this Far Cry 3?
>>339355162
TF2 proves this. Its graphics are still decent, even though they're almost a decade old.
>>339347810
>That. Fucking. Gameplay.
>>339346272
>taken the graphics crown from a 2007 game
Now... how many decades for the even... similar physics and destrucible enviroment???
>>339346956
what game?
>>339362949
The one this thread is all about.
>>339362949
skyrim with guns.
>>339347225
that looks awful what is wrong with you
>>339351848
meme!
Why cant we just settle for the graphics we have now and instead focus on other elements of the game, these graphics will do
The Witcher 3 looks better.
>>339363317
What other game has physics attached to pretty much all the clutter and doesn't die when it moves said clutter around in varying speeds?
>>339363832
Red Faction Guerilla/Armageddon.
>>339347904
>900p
>>339355727
...Voodoo 2.jpg
>>339347375
But MW2 wasn't shallow, anon. It was arcady, and fun, but it definitely wasn't shallow.
>>339348667
I like Bionicles
>>339364463
>but it definitely wasn't shallow.
This game is from 2004, show something older with this good graphics.
>>339352425
I believe you can buy a kb/m sort of thing for XB1, so you'd be able to play PD at least.
>>339346861
Unity has reached that graphic level 2 years
>>339347810
#ps4shaming
Duke Nukem 1996 can do that.
>>339353954
AHAAHAHAHAHAH
>>339367896
Mirros in duke nukem
>D44M and Halo 5 rubber - graphics
STOP THIS SHIT DEVS
>>339346439
This whole post is wrong though.
>Thread about graphics
>People argue that the game is good/bad
Do you even hear what you're saying?
>>339368365
>consoles having good graphics
>unmoded games having good graphics
Just mod whatever you want, and it will have good graphics.
>finally getting a good processor
>Going to play crysis at steady 60fps for the first time in my life in a couple weeks
>>339347883
Crysis runs at 15fps on consoles after downgrading the entire game by about 75%
>>339347609
Jokes on you, modem consoles have less processing power than PCs from 2007
>>339347983
m8 you appear to be talking out of your ass
pbr is just a shading standard that was invented for the sake of convenience, it doesn't make things look better or worse
>>339369189
>bought a new gtx760
>must test crysis heavy moded
>sometimes it droped to 12fps
Shieeeeet.
>>339370859
if you're buying budget cards you shoulda just gone with AMD
>>339370859
The meme about crysis is its GPU dependence. Any GPU can max it nowadays. It's entirely reliant on single core processing power.
>>339371002
>>339370987
This was years ago.
Also i had a shit phenom with locked multiplier, so no OC, and got stuck at 3ghz.
Months ago i bought an entire new pc and i replayed in VR with no issues.
>>339346528
Real life right here guys. How can anyone compete with Microsoft after this?
Real life here guys, LOOK AT THOSE COLORS
>>339349326
Literally worst mod I've ever installed
>>339349326
>all that shaking and blur
Thanks for that
>>339371596
how long ago?
lastest updates and a few touches to the *.ini almost eliminate the cripple walking.
>crysis is good meme
It was mediocre at best
>>339371843
But still haven't fixed the "all shadows have to be darkness darkest void, so dark even black is sucked in into the shadow" shit.
>>339371908
It's mediocre if you're bad at it. If the game on the highest difficulty isn't a cakewalk to you or if you think you don't have enough suit energy to use stealth ,then you're bad at the game.
>>339346737
You are wrong on all accounts.
>>339371908
>korean trash eating faggot voices his shitty opinion
>>339372264
It's just shit. It's really, really easy too, due to speed.
>>339372154
No, blackfire mod does it better, lets you config that ingame, shadows color grade and other stuff, but it dosent have the suit powers upgrade like walljumping, damage (what makes you see or aim like shit(i really like that feature)) and bpm mechanic, wich could kill you by just run too much, there is also a slowmo, but its add more OP to an already OP character, but for cinematic entrances is pretty awesome.
Graphics peaked in the late 90s. Honestly, games shouldn't be more graphically complex than, say, Unreal. All the extra bullshit, effects, megatexturing, and other fluff just gets in the way of GAMEPLAY. Which is why you're playing the fucking game to begin with, remember, kids?
>>339346023
Battlefront is a shit game, but it looks better.
>"" ""
Kill yourself.
>>339372264
difficulty =/= fun
>>339355727
That this can even be done is fucking amazing.
>>339349327
the updates the Dice team did to Frostbite for Battlefront will probably carry into Battlefield 1 and other games that use the engine in the future.
At least I'd hope so.
>>339373536
>tfw the large majority of /v/ is too young to recognise the character in that image
>>339346023
I fucking hate how games are trying to have good graphics by making it as close real life as they can, instead of having intelligent choices on aesthetics and world design. A game with good aesthetics trumps photorealism in almost every way.
>"graphics peaked"
>we haven't even reached Toy Story graphics yet let alone Avatar
>>339374091
fritz was truly a masterpiece
>>339374535
Toy Story looks like shit though. Your nostalgia makes it look better than it does.
>>339373536
That's not what unsaid dumbass
I said that if you're playing the game properly, then it is no longer difficult and becomes fun.
>>339375496
difficulty =/= fun
>>339374535
>>339375540
Way to be retarded. Good job.
>>339374535
Once we reach Avatar graphics I think that'll be the peak for quite a bit.
Still have a ways to go though.
>read this thread
>every argument makes zero sense if youve actually played crysis
so in otherwords
>ITT: people who have never actually played crysis
the terrible 360 port doesnt count either
>>339374535
we've far surpassed toy story lad, but we aren't going to hit avatar for a few years
>>339353954
I guess you could say that this reflects the game's quality.
>>339346439
>It's not impressive because it actually runs well
uhh, what
>people seriously think photorealistic graphics could have been achieved in the decade since Crysis
Not even speaking to the technological part of rendering everything, but have you anons ever actually considered the sheer amount of effort required on the art team's part to achieve such a level? You have a year or two to finish all the art assets, of which there are such a ridiculous amount per game. You'd have to hire hundreds of artists and give them years each to finish all the art just to make something look significantly better on a per-object basis. I regularly work in photorealism with graphite, you see diminishing results very very quickly.
Gen5 to Gen6 was a huge leap, and gen6 to gen7 was also a notable leap in terms of raw graphical fidelity. Gen7 to Gen8 also had a solid jump but the games still don't look how people expected a decade ago. They're limited by hardware as much as the art team and development time. You can have a shitload of well designed objects now which definitely adds a whole hell of a lot go different scenes and areas in games. I mean compare TLOU to Uncharted 1 and you'll see a massive difference in how good the two look. The difference isn't just the textures and fidelity but how many objects could be rendered.
The problem is once you approach photorealism it requires so many more hours to make everything look realistic the closer to realistic it looks. In a graphite piece I could do 80% of the work in 40 hours and spend another 40 hours reaching 100%. It's a crazy amount of work beyond just the limits of technology.
You'll never see something looking like Avatar until not only can technology render that level of quality in real time instead of hours and days per frame, but when art teams are also capable of delivering that much quality of content in any appreciable amount of time.
>>339379131
>point cloud based rendering consumes no GPU power, and little CPU
>use all the GPU power to simulate a very good physics engine
>this still didnt happened
Gee.. i wonder could be-
>>339379131
Soon they'll just make run in the google street view.
>>339346023
>>339346110
>>339346272
>>339346362
>That feel when PS4 master race can play these at 4k at the end of the year
So much for PCs being "stronger" lol
>>339379702
>ps3 on one side
>ps2 on the other side
>>339379131
Uncharted 4 had some good cutscences
>>339379702
woah.................. i just......... damn............ cant believe...................... so....... amazing........ the..........P....... S........ 4........
>>339372630
Agreed, fellow grown-up.
>>339380016
>woah.................. i just......... damn............ cant believe...................... so....... amazing........ the..........P....... S........ 4........
>>339346023
Looks like shit bro. Just because theres leaves everywhere doesn't make the graphics good.
>>339380206
>being this new
>Individual beard strands
PC are you even trying?
>>339346861
>That leather hand
Nothing triggers me more than shitty looking hands in games. We see our hands more than any other part of our bodies. If you fuck up hands in games it looks disgusting. Especially in FPS games.
>>339380621
He really should have been given a slightly receding hairline, he still looks too perfect.
>>339380206
what did you mean by this
Tbh even as a PC fag Uncharted 4 has the best graphics, and it's a PS4 exclusive.
>>339380793
>shitty looking hands
Someone post that Dragon Age 2 pic.
>>339380621
T-this is satirical right? That beard looks like shit
whome ever made this thread obviously never heard of anything made with unreal engine 4
>>339381167
>>339380621
has already been done...
witcher 3 for example
>>339355727
Fucking oblivion
>>339346272
it's not open world so no, it didn't take shit
A lot of games look better than Crysis now, but a lot of games still don't.
Many games suffer from shit art. While technically they are using high resolution textures and high poly models, they still look like ass. Look at MKX or Shadows of Murder for example. Tons of textures that are 4 and even 8k, but they look like 512x512 textures with sharpening filters on them.
>>339379648
Unlimited Detail is described by Euclideon as a form of point cloud Search engine indexing system, which uses a large number of individual points to create models, instead of a more traditional polygon mesh. According to their description, the engine uses a search algorithm to determine which of these points are visible on-screen, and then displays only these points. On a 1024x768 display, for example, the engine would display only 786,432 visible points in each frame. As the engine is displaying the same number of points in every frame, the level of geometric detail provided is limited only by the amount of memory needed to store the point cloud data, and the rendering speed is limited only by the screen resolution.
Euclideon have previously described their technique as being a voxel rasterizer,[6] but decided to use their own terminology such as "3D atoms" and "point cloud", saying that "that word [voxels] doesn't have the prestige in the games industry that it enjoys in medicine and the sciences".[7]
From their wikipedia page. I mean shit, have you guys ever heard of occlusion? Do you understand why n64 quake didn't have it?
This is the sort of pseudo-science used to scam money out of people illiterate in the field. It might as well be solar roadways.
If there were actually such an 'infinitely better' method, don't you think an actual game developer would have tried it?
this is what an amateur dev did on UE4
>>339379702
>no shadows
