>beat DOOM
>fuck that was great, I wish there was more
>played some of Doom, Doom 2 and Doom 64 but don't remember every beating them
>feel like trying out Final Doom on a whim
>TNT here we go
>I ain't no pussy Ultra Violence here we go
>my anus is bleeding
Heavy Weapon Guys are bullshit. I've been stuck on e1m3 for like an hour now.
give this wad a try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ariqTV1786E
oh and btw, according to DOOM its canon
>>339337226
Uh yeah thanks I guess.
How is this on Youtube?
>TNT
As someone who just recently replayed it, It's not worth it.
its generally seen as the worst doom, and with very good reason.
The first 10 levels are the only levels worth playing if at all, the rest is just horribly designed bullshit that will just piss you off.
if you really want to tear your asshole apart with some really good .wads, I heavily recommend you try out Alien vendetta, and hell revealed 2 if you haven't already. The later levels are complete bullshit but it's a slaughterfest of the best kind
>>339337524
Because YouTube doesn't care about what's on their platform unless a wealthy corporate entity copyright claims something for shits and giggles.
>>339336747
final doom is supposed to be harder and there are far harder megawads anyway
Sometimes I wonder if I played the DOOM series in the wrong order.
>Play DOOM 1 shareware in childhood on Windows 95.
>Much later in life, play doom on Xbox Live Arcade.
>Play the fucking SHIT out of that game. Every fucking day. For months. And have it be my occasional go-to game for years.
>Fast forward 7 years, play DOOM II on DOSbox.
>Quit after a few hours of play, even though I enjoyed it.
>Two years later, play and beat DOOM 3 and its expansion.
>Play DOOM 4 beta for half an hour and get bored.
>Still haven't played DOOM II like I should have.
>>339337704
Should I just skip to Plutonia?
>>339337895
Yeah this is TOO hard.
I mean, I remember Revenants being hard but fighting them at point blank range is nearly impossible here. There's nothing to hide behind to throw the rockets off and they home like a fucking bitch.
>>339338352
Yes, skip tnt. Plutonia is pretty good but the layout can be pretty confusing at times if you aren't into the habit of using the automap
>>339338352
plutonia is harder than TNT just stick with it
>>339338002
>Still haven't played DOOM II like I should have
You should go do that then
>>339338352
>I remember Revenants being hard but fighting them at point blank range is nearly impossible here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
This is a good start.
You don't really need a lot of cover to fight Revenants in general, you need room for sure though.
TNT is kind of lame.
Plutonia is a lot harder.
TNT is just "i place minigunner", play plutonia instead, it is better designed even though there is still lots of minigunners
Plutonia is fucking garbage.
>>339338002
Bruv, most of your Doom experience was with a controller on an unmoddable platform, you have been missing out bigtime. Yes, you should play Doom2, but you should also play Doom 1. The real Doom 1.
And a whole wide world of third party maps await, too. Go 2 it.
>>339338627
>tnt: minigunners
>plutonia: minigunners + revenents
neither are worth playing. Final Doom is bad. There's a million wads out there that are much better.
>>339338436
>>339338442
>>339338627
>>339338713
THERES A FUCKING ARCHVILE IN THE FIRST LEVEL
IS THIS CORRECT
DID I GET THE WRONG .WAD OR SOMETHING
THIS IS PLUTONIA'S E1M1???
>>339338837
Plutonia is made to be hard.
If you did Doom 1 you should have done E4, which is like the Lost Levels of Doom.
You can think of Plutonia as the same deal.
>>339338938
AND THEN I WALK RIGHT AND THERE'S FOUR REVENANTS OH FUCK I DIDNT EVEN SCREENSHOT THAT SHIT
>>339338837
see>>339338713
"plutonia is good" 4chan's doom fanbase equivalent to Deus Ex's "put all points into swimming"
>>339339059
I jumped for the teleporter and I "made" it but I don't think Plutonia is right for me.
What are some good .wads and not, y'know, fucking bullshit hard with no sense of scaling?
>>339339059
It's not though anon.
That would be trying to get someone to play a Terry wad.
Plutonia is just kind of eh with level design and is only worth playing if you like challenge.
>>339338837
Play Scythe.
It's a great level set.
>>339339187
Forgot image.
>>339339187
Doom 1, episodes 1-3
That's about it. Episode 4 is awful. doom 2 is awful. Final doom is awful.
>>339339059
Plutonia is more popular among Doomworld than 4chan.
That said, I really think its nowhere near as hard as people make it out to be.
>>339339187
>>339339265
>Jumped
Anon no
That breaks level sets.
How am I supposed to kill them.
>>339339473
use chaingun
>>339339473
You can chaingun tap(Two shots with 100% accuracy)
You can come back later when you get a rocket launcher
You can wait until you are closer.
You have options
>>339338002
I've played some modded DOOM 1 and WADs before, just haven't done it very much.
>>339339187
Play Scythe. It's a megawad with an emphasis on small but very active and challenging levels. If you like it, check out Scythe 2.
What are some good wads that change the gameplay around, have only done Demonsteele and Trailblazer. No Brutal Doom pls
>>339339187
Play Memento Mori
>>339340012
GMOTA
Project MSX
>>339340012
None of them are good, IMO. They almost never take map balance into account. So they usually end up just being a power fantasy that gets boring after an hour.
Mommy pls
So yeah, think I'll try out Scythe now because I'm tired of being sodomized by Revenants with no fucking place to dodge them from.
>>339340304
I thought I was the only one who felt this way about them. Stuff like Demonsteele and Metroid: Dreadnought are neat but get old after a few minutes.
>>339340625
>>339340304
>Demonsteele
Pick a higher difficulty than UV.
It's the only way. 2 HP is basically the baseline.
>Metroid
You can set up limits to not get a lot of HP and due to lack of armor you can have a good time with harder level sets.
>Trailblazer
Literally made for slaughtermaps only and trivializes them.
Not as bad as how Guncaster does it though.
I like the effort put into making everything, but with how overpowered everything is it's hard to really get invested in anything like that.Weapons of Saturn is pretty cool. SUAB is different but pretty cool.
>>339340012
Just a simple changes of animations makes the whole thing feel different.
Project MSX is fun, and you can find recommended/new wads for it on its page
Or play something like Winter's Fury.
>>339340570
I put Scythe in the directory and the text file in the license folder but it doesn't show up on the list when I start zdoom.
What am I missing/doing wrong/ignorant of?
>>339341176
click and drag it onto the zdoom exe. I'm not completely sure about all things doom modding, but that should work for that. It might ask you to open a different wad, just pick Doom 2 and it should still boot Scythe.
>>339341176
>>339341336
Wait yeah I got it.
Is it supposed to look all red?
>>339336747
Fuck TNT.
>>339341383
if you mean the main menu, yes.
>>339340012
Reelism, DoomRL Arsenal + Oblige megawad.
>>339340304
>>339340625
Demonsteele is really something that wants its own custom-designed wads. Leaping around all over the place is fun as fuck, but its rare to find levels that really facilitate doing that to its maximum potential.
>>339339608
you get a rocket launcher in the first map. Just use it there
>>339338352
>revenants
if possible, get into melee range, make 'em whiff punches (kind of tricky, since if you fuck up, a: they punch just as hard as a missile and b: if you go slightly outside of melee range, they'll hit you with a missile at minimum range)
in short, watch the video >>339338525 linked
Revenant missiles are scary. There's nothing quite as dumb as running down several 90 degree turns, finally thinking you're safe, and then suddenly getting hit for 60% damage because it was still following you.happened when testing a wad I was making
>339336747
>beat DOOM
>fuck that was great, I wish there was more
NO MORE FOR YOU
FUCK YOU
WE REMOVED ANY AND ALL MOD SUPPORT
LOL SNAPMAP
DLC SOON
FUCK YOU MODDERS
>>339340952
I know this is one of the maps from Going Down but what sprite/graphics mod are you using?
>>339342025
Beautiful Doom.
I wanted something with a bit more zip and it works pretty well. Doesn't change anything mechanically, just looks better.
I started playing Thy Flesh Consumed earlier, that second level was pretty tough. But over all it's kinda just felt like Doom 2 without all the enemies
>>339339059
>he did not build scuba diver character to get the secret atlantis ending
anon, how can you be so bad at video games?
>>339338352
>>339336747
I'm always amazed at how shitty 4chans doom players are. Tnt is fucking easy. Plutonia is harder but even that's not anywhere near the kinds of megawads the fans have made now.
>>339340570
From the command-line: doom2 -file scythe.wad
Substitute 'doom2' with whatever engine you use. (Though you should have been playing vanilla, m8.)
>>339337704
You think this fag is gonna be able to play av or hr2 if he can't even fucking play tnt?
>>339342123
Personally I prefer Smooth Doom.
What are some goodHexen/Heretic.wads?
>>339341917
anon, there are really great user maps out there build with SnapMap™
just take a short look at this gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8SyOhqk1I
>>339342519
M8, I don't know about you but I wasn't born a Doom god. When Final Doom first came out I found it hard. OP is just discovering Doom, it'd be bloody amazing if he could just waltz through Plutonia on skill 4.
>>339340012
motherfucking contra doom in nightmare difficultyenable chasecam for better chances of survival
>>339341917
Multiplayer DLC no less, for a multi that's probably dead by now.
I really don't get that shit, the tomb raider reboot had the same shit, people begging for single player DLC maps and NOPE YOU MULTIPLAYER DLC which died in like 2 weeks.
>>339342123
It does change things.
The Chaingun and super shotgun having single fire.Unless it was updated and removed these changes?
I use Smooth Doom personally for those animated N64 shotguns.
>>339342519
Every time
>>339338002
I'd argue that while doom 2 added great new monsters and the SSG, the maps dont hold up to Doom
Hey guys, I've been meaning to play Doom II. I beat the original a couple years ago.
Which source port should I use? I've been thinking ZDoom or Chocolate Doom.
I like brutal doom.
>>339340304
GMOTA feels somewhat balanced, that's why it's my favourite of the bunch.
>>339342762
I played through both plutonia and tnt keyboard only on uv when I was about 15. They were fine. You don't have to be a doom God not to find them hard, you just have to be a non retard
>>339342930
Good. You're retarded
>>339343047
Chocolate Doom for the closest to vanilla experience.
>>339342882
>I use Smooth Doom personally for those animated N64 shotguns.
My Smooth Doom keeps fucking up when I use the N64 weapons. I forgot the error it says but it doesn't work in ZDoom.
Just play the new Doom. I hear its really good.
>>339343268
Try with GZDoom and remember to have the latest SVN versions of your source ports.
>doom
>good
lmao. shitty graphics, literal autoaim, retarded level design
maybe it was good in the 80s but liking it now is just a meme
>>339337226
>according to DOOM it's canon
What
>>339343420
The only autoaim in Doom is vertical.
>>339342736
holy shit. how do you fuck up this badly? what is even the point?
>E4M1 on Ultra-Violence
>>339343420
Trouble with being sarcastic or facetious, no-one can tell; the retards then start spouting it as gospel.
>>339339059
plutonia is good but it's hard
>>339343253
Every time
>>339343646
>tfw it took you an hour to beat E4M2 on UV
Sadly after E4M3 the rest of the levels weren't so bad
>>339336747
get your ass ready for the megawads made by the community
>ancient ayylmaos' map05
i'm probably playing like shit but dear god the ammo is scarce
>>339342519
<3
No but really I've always been shit at fps games. I've tried to get better, and like on consoles I generally dominate people but on PC I've just never been that good at fps. I have criminally bad reaction time, far above average reaction time.
I generally play turn based games or slower strategy games as a result since competitively I cannot compete in anything realtime.
Fighters, fps, rts, hell even mobas I feel artificially handicapped. I'm not sure if something's not wrong with my nerves outright because I've tried to get better about this and I just can't.
>>339339187
you'll need to get good at doom first
Is the Hell on Earth starterpack for Brutal Doom any good?
>>339344074
but it's so fucking good though, these maps are so sexy they make me feel bad for even trying to map myself.
>>339344110
it should be much easier to play fps on pc than console because of mouse precision. are you new to playing with a mouse or something?
Any good level sets for coop with myfriend
>>339336747
Doom is great, but when you're ready to graduate beyond childs-play, try Descent.
>>339344407
descent is kind of forgotten and underrated
you can't get it anymore because interplay jewing the original creators
this is all you need for the first 2 games v
http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/download-dxx-rebirth/
https://mega.co.nz/#!R5kGAYYR!fa2YFqedgOgZotSTQYNtS_pL8N97oh2V1vgjTfDDtsE
https://mega.co.nz/#!l9MkQBCb!fpn7bt9Nn6vy9-Py49v7tzVXGKPPSUwLuDy4AEbgwC8
>>339344165
It's pretty good.
So far Doom 2 w/ brutal doom has been my favorite of the total remakes.
>>339344407
Best game.
>>339344294
I don't think you get it, what I'm saying.
My reaction time is bad, sup par by far, almost a quarter of a second slower than the average.
Which in turn makes it harder to hit things especially if they're moving fast or if I'm moving fast. On console I've got the auto aim and everything slow so because I try hard I can generally stomp console plebs.
On PC people try just as hard as me, many try a lot harder, and have much better reaction times as well. So I can't compete. Even on console if it's something like Street Fighter or Smash, I can't compete.
Even in singleplayer stuff fast movement throws me off, because again, my reaction time is beyond awful. In turn, I'm awful at anything fast paced, very much including Doom.
>>339339187
>no sense of scaling
what are you talking about? it only gets harder from there. plutonia is the only mapset that even makes use of the new super shotgun and enemies introduced in 2.
>>339341412
this is great
>>339344407
no effective means to dodge homing missiles
chaingunners are worse than karl marx
>>339344719
Thank you for posting those links, anon. Everyone should seriously try Descent if they haven't already. There's even still a relatively active multiplayer scene.
>>339345208
Wasn't there some redux of descent released recently? Or maybe it was some stupid steam beta thing?
>>339345161
you can dodge homing missiles by tri-chording
it's hard though a good strategy is to draw them in and scoot past to beat their turning arc
>>339345161
>no effective means to dodge homing missiles
git gud
>chaingunners are worse than karl marx
okay i'll give you that those guys were hard, but still not impossible. If you went in blind, you would surely take damage from them, but if you were careful to find and kill them quickly, they wouldn't kill you.
>>339345161
yeah, to specify how you "gid gud,"
I'll second >>339345334 's advice.
>>339343440
Lore of Doom 4 implies that all Doom WAD's with the Doomguy in it are canon.
>>339342498
>>339345325
there are a couple of clones
>descent underground
kikestarted, early access not the OG devs game is terrible and they are going maximum jew to cash in on the name
>overload
OG parallax devs, kickstarted, there is a teaser/demo on their website and steam so go play it, it's really good
>sol contingency
It was a fan game that got shut down by interplay so they rebranded and are making a game proper, looks really good and is the closest to the classic descent feel (blows underground out of the water)
they have a multiplayer demo in UE3 on their site and are currently moving to UE4 for the complete game
i guess there is also sub level zero which is pretty great descent roguelite thing
is e4 canon in doom 1? it wasnt in the original release, but added in ultimate doom, so is it required play, or good enough to be required play?
>>339345347
>>339345945
haven't you heard?
all wads are canon
>>339345482t-thanks todd
>>339346103
eREEEEEEee
>>339345945
Yes, you should play it solely because of E4M2.
>OP just started Plutonia
i really hope you like revenants
ALRIGHT YOU BALL LICKING BONER LOVERS
IM READY TO RIP SOME ASSHOLES, GIMMIE THE HARDEST WAD YOU GOT
>>339345161
>no effective means to dodge homing missiles
holy shit you're fucking max retard
not even memeing here
>>339344165
>>339344831
Brutal doom on black metal is so good.
>reworked levels with new areas
>a LOT more enemies
>faster monster reaction and animations
>gore and literally painting levels with big guts
>can wield revenant rocket launchers and mancubus' flamer
It's just so fucking intense like holy shit mang
Not single .wad gave me even remotely close feeling of meth-like speed and euphoria of RRRRIPIN' through hordes and hordes of demons every second.
The only bummer is reload really, fuck that shit.
>>339345931
>>339345325
There are two more that I'm aware of:
>Geocore
A little clunky at the moment, slow dev process (it's just one guy), but has definite promise
>Ascendroid
Seems extremely tight, and closest to the physics of the original D1 / D2 that I've seen among all these "reboots." Very early in development, but also great promise here.
>>339346103
>>339345347
Honestly, these guys gave me more trouble
>>339346245
That level with labyrinth full of archviles is in plutonia as well right?
T-thats some n-nice level haha ha
>>339346659Yes
Just downloaded PSX TC and played through E1.
Didn't know how much a few minor changes to the soundtrack, lighting, and level design could alter the atmosphere a game that I've played so much. I really like it.
If you haven't beaten the OG Doom with the original keyboard controls you cant say shit about anything doom related
>>339346659
THE SSG IS YOUR FRIEND
>>339336747
>ctrl+f
>eternal doom
>no results
Play eternal doom. It's the best thing team tnt ever released.
>>339346420
yeah i know about geocore but never heard of the other one
>>339346539
these things were always the hardest for me
Why do people have this dislike for Brutal doom? Feel like I see it get shit every time its brought up.
Any way to disable screen wobble in the older games? Makes me motion sick.
>>339347056
I know right? I had balls to play plutonia in brutal doom black metal difficulty where those fuckers fry you up almost instantly. Well, I guess bonus max ammo is alright at least.
But seriously, all the buttrape aside I loved that level, because it felt like a real survival horror rather than jolly meatgrinder.
>>339347278
>Why do people have this dislike for Brutal doom?
Either because it's popular, or they really don't like reloading in Doom.
The latter makes sense to me.
TNT the best wad ever.
>>339347278
Because it's popular, of course
>>339347398
>reloading
>he picks modern instead of classic
you deserve all the hate
>>339347278
>Why do people have this dislike for Brutal doom?
Too many people shoved it in everyone's face as the way Doom was meant to be played and the old guard got tired of people who claim that it's the best when it's really just okay.
>>339347278
It's mostly because some people really push it as being some sort of "patch" or upgrade to the original game that makes it the definitive version of it, when it's clearly not. Brutal Doom is entertaining for sure, but it's not how the game was meant to be played.
Also, the creator of Brutal Doom stole a lot of assets from other content creators without crediting them, which is a big nono within the community.
mandatory
>>339347205
It's fairly recent, but definitely something to follow.
As for Overload, I played the demo, and will certainly follow it (I'll be following all of these projects - Descent 1 and 2 are my two favorite games ever made). I think it will have a great single-player experience (the robots already are quite interesting) - yet, it doesn't have the same speed and turn-on-a-dime feel as the originals (there's too much inertia). I'm sure they will keep tweaking this stuff, but I wonder if the multiplayer experience will be anything like D1 / D2.
ZDOOM or GZDOOM, /v/?
>>339347278
Retard fans m8, their favourite e-celeb told them it was the best thing ever and the true Doom experience™ so that's what they parrot
>>339347756
>hurr durr ecelebs
>hurr durr experience
>using the word "parrot" unironically
>>>/cancer/
>>339342736
Kek, the only good map is Avatar of Sin, made by some /v/ or /vg/ nigga.
I'm extremely pissed of at this bullshit.
Old doom still has a huge community because mods.
meanwhile, new doom gets fuck all.
Imagine what we could do with the equivalent of the Radiant editor from Doom 3.
But nah, fuck you.
Now that I've beaten new doom on nightmare, there is fuck all to do.
I might as well reinstall Doom 3 and check out the crazy shit people have made.
Hexen and Heretic are the best wads.
>>339342852
It isn't dead yet, but it will be soon.
I was actually enjoying the limited multiplayer, but player profiles are stored locally AND there is ZERO anti cheat protection.
There are guys going around with a BFG and unlimited ammo right now and the producers don't give a single fuck.
>>339347925
It really is a shame what the multiplayer and user content turned into for NuDoom. The single player was surprisingly pretty great.
>Mfw I just realized to dodge Arch-Vile is to get around a corner/escape his line of sight.
I dreaded those fuckers back in the day. Can't believe I just got their patterns down.
Goddam.
>>339337226
Fuck off, freak
>>339339187
Hell Revealed is pretty good
Oh wait, you're shit at Doom. Go play Sycthe on ITYTD.
>>339347612
>sort of "patch" or upgrade to the original game
Who the fuck would even think that? Jesus
I heard a lot about creator of BD being a total dick, but honestly I don't give a shit. Brutal Doom is one of the most fun .wads I played.
>>339347869
>Being this much of a butthurt nigger
>>>/lgbt/
>>339348042
I'm still holding out hope that a real editor and SDK will be released a year from now.
I'd love to see what people could make with it.
>>339348350
I would love to see some proper modding tools as well, but it's unlikely seeing as the game has Denuvo, which makes that very hard to do.
A good way to taste someones taste in video games is get his opinion on Doom and see wether he thinks it's lacking vertical aim.
>>339348547
>taste someones taste
wut?
>>339348547
I always turn it on in source ports as it adds a little bit of skill, but it sure as shit isn't required.
>>339348215
There are retarded people out there who think that playing STALKER with the "Complete" mods is the optimal way of playing and recommend them to all newcomers to the series as essential patches.
>>339346312
GD with Complex Doom gets pretty fucking insane.
>>339348615
yeah I noticed that's the last straw I am going to bed now
>>339347612
>>339348215
I've been playing Project Brutality with the Maps of Chaos.I like the Doom's comicbook voice.
Also his maps are breddy gud.
>>339349000
Goodnight, sleep tight
>>339348084
WATCH THIS SHIT NIGGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
Has shit on Archviles at the end.
>>339349000
Okay. Have a good night, anon.
>>339346131
>>339345945
>>339345482
>All WAD's are canon
Jesus. I can't find anything on Google. How does it imply this?
I really like PSX Doom, dunno why
>>339348964
While it is true that some stalkan mods actually make the game a better experience, modding any game on your first playthrough is plain retarded. Why do people do that? It makes no sense
Which one is the original Doom on Steam? Final Doom? Ultimate Doom?
>>339349558
ultimate doom
>>339349343
short, tl;dr version is that he has been in hell since Doom 64 and crossing dimensional plains, stopping demons and alternate UACs for thousands of years.
New doom is just the newest adventure.
>>339346380
Disgusting numale right here
Should I play every level in Doom/Doom II with pistol start? If so, how do I do it?
Using Chocolate Doom btw
>>339349558
Don't buy Doom on steam
>>339349767
Where should I buy it?
>>339349892
original creators have said they don't give a fuck if people pirate it.
go to tiny url and put /doomiwads after the dotcom.
>>339349669
g'narly
>>339349440
I do too. I like it because it's a hybrid between the Doom and Doom64.
>>339349121
Never gotten sick of this being posted.
Crafty murder mutants.
>>339349892
Just download WADs and a source port like GZDoom, Chocolate Doom if you want it to feel more authentic.
>>339349892
you can buy it if you really want but all you really want is the IWAD files to use with a sourceport
the /vr/ doom general has a download for all the main Doom clone games
>>339349440DANNY WON
>>339349121
i love this video
>>339337226
>animeNEETs have finally managed to finest Doom
To think that this time last year the worst we had to worry about was casuals gushing over Brutal Doom.
Oh well, I guess we had a good run.
>>339347035
Except mouse aim was there from day one
>>339349121
This video is great
>>339347035
>Doom
>implying it was originally keyboard-only
I wish this meme would end.
>>339348547
It could be useful sometimes if you want to see what's above or below you. Then again I suppose the original maps were designed for leaps of faith
>>339349343
The lore is Doomguy is so fucking feared in Hell they made a fucking mythology for him, calling him the Doomslayer, fearing his next visit, as every time he visits he fucking kills everything
In order to build that kind of reputation he had to have gone to Hell and back hundreds of times between Doom 64 and Doom 4 (therefore, every PWAD)
The demons realize it's fucking impossible to kill the Doomguy, but they manage to seal him inside a tomb. Unfortunately for them, Hell is connected to every dimension, and an expedition from another dimension's UAC recovers the Doomguy and keeps him in cold storage for a rainy day
By the time of Doom 4, he has lost his mind, knowing nothing but violence. He doesn't give a rat's ass about new UAC's new excuse for experimenting with Hell, he's heard it hundreds of times before, he doesn't care, he knows dealing with Hell always ends badly. He ignores the new UAC CEO's pleading and goes to kill demons and break all of the UAC's hell-tech.
>>339350834
>>339350380
I know it was. But going stock keyboard-only keybinds is an interesting challenge. Try it sometime.
>>339345482
Does that mean even doom 3 is canon?
>>339351072what about the night sentinels? It's heavily implied that NuDoomguy is the one that betrayed the rest to get his son brought back to life.
>>339351208
Possibly. The lore is kept pretty vague. Whether it's the same Doomguy in all of Hell's mythology, or just a different marine from a different dimension showing up at least once in Hell's history is left unsaid. But it's implied the player in Doom 4 has seen tons of shit, and has no time for excuses, so presumably he's the Doom 1/2/64 guy
>>339342736
>Consoles get to play with pc players
Thats the reason for the limit, so peasant consoles don't engulf into flames
>>339349698
you could use IDCLEV to warp to the level at the start
>>339342736
I iwsh they just toned down the eyecandy a bunch and removed these rubbish restrictions and let people actually draw in sectors on the grid like doombuilder even if it's only limited to the original Doom textures etc
>>339347278
I thought brutal doom was pretty cool when I first played it, But after playing a much of regular doom wads. All the changes with brutal doom just annoy the ever loving fuck out of me. Especially the horrible balance.
>>339336747
>die in Ultra-Nightmare>to the possessed.
There is an eternal shame I will never be rid of.
>>339347675
Both
>>339351241
This is what I don't get after playing the game a few times.
The "betrayer", as stated in a few "backstory" nodes in hell, is a demon that made new doomguy his armor.
I never saw any mention to doomguy betraying them, or any mention to his son (He never had a son that was mentioned in the original games).
That, and it's hard to picture Doomguy making a deal with the devil.
A number of people are saying that his "son" was brought back as the Icon of Sin in doom II, but that makes no fucking sense. It isn't mentioned anywhere in Doom II.
I've never played No Rest for the Living. How is it?
>>339351626
But, SHOULD I? I've read that playing every level with pistol start is the intended way to play Doom 1 and 2.
>>339352756
If it was intended then you wouldn't carry weapons from one level to the next.
>>339352812
Well, fuck. You got me there, anon.
>>339344719
wow I am shit at this. I think I haven't had enough practice with my joystick because it feels awkward despite my mappings making sense.
>>339352756
Some official wads did the pistol start (Master Levels) but for the base games you carry the weapons over between levels in episodes.
Pistol start is for advanced players, but intent wise it's whatever the level creators set.
>>339349343
so does that mean that the columbine levels are canon
>>339351769
Better than dying to World. Have you seen the amount of helmets next to platforming sections?
>>339353650
>That one guy in Resource Ops who died because he shot an explosive shot at the group of Possessed and Engi and had the Explosive barrel fly behind him and kill himI know because I almost died like that the same run I died to the Possessed.
>>339353341
yes. it also means that /pol/wad, terry wads, and HDoom are canon.
>>339351769
at least you didn't die in the first fight
i knowe the story isnt meant to be taken seriously but if the humans where just messing around with teleports as a prototype why the fuck is there teleports everywhere?
>>339353770
Speaking of Ultra-Nightmare, how far have you gotten? What Argent Upgrades do you prefer? I've gotten to Argent Energy Tower, lol, but managed to upgrade my health twice
>>339338837
archvilles are simple just duck behind a wall and make pot shots with the super shotty
>>339350227YEAH
>>339354027
>plutonia e1m1
>ssg
>>339354149
There is one.
Also, ExMx for Ultimate Doom, MAPXX for doom2 onwards.
I've never played all of doom 1. Should I, and what's the best way?
>>339351241
>>339352102
>inb4 daisy is retconned as his daughter or the mythos got confused during the pass of time that demons stated it as a son, when it was actually a fucking bunny
>>339352756
Every level is supposed to be POSSIBLE from a pistol start, because you lose all your shit when you die. Losing all your weapons is your punishment for dying. People who push pistol starts as the only correct way to play are bloody idiots.
>>339349343
>gone home is canon
>>339354312
You should, UV is the only way unless you are masochist, then UV speed. Also Heretic and Hexen are worth a try, best Doom clones imo.
>>339354451
That'd be hilarious.
>>339354624
I mean, don't you use GZdoom or something?
>>339354925
jesus christ OP git gud
>>339342882
Beautiful Doom has 2 options. One is the original gameplay with just the smoother animations and graphical flair, and the other option where it "enhances" the weapons to make them shit.
Vanilla option is great.
>>339337704
>he doesn't like Metal or Habitat
wow it's like you haveactual sense
>>339338352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
seems to me like you need some help
I've been playing Doom literally since the shareware version was released. I've played every official Doom many times over, and I've enjoyed literally all of them. I love unmodded Doom, I loved that silly mod that put CoD weapons into the game, I loved brutal Doom, I loved Plutonia, TNT, as well as all the other silly popular mods for graphics and weapons.
I dunno what's wrong with the rest of you autismos, but Doom is fucking great no matter what mod you use as long as it doesn't literally break the game.
>>339350343
>he's never played Demonsteele
It's like if DOOM had a baby with DMC and all they ever let it listen to was metal and raised it on violent 90s OVAs.
>>339357426
It doesn't really have a lot of DMC influence besides the launcher slash.
Really it's more like if Doom had a baby with Shadow Warrior 2013 and added in the ranking system from DMC and change it to be a damage multiplier.
>>339357426
Don't forget feeding it only doritos and energy drinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElfXigIe4c
Really needs to do a new trailer.
>>339353978
No further than the Foundry. My slipups are too frequent.
I figure I'd max HP then upgrade ammo so I don't have to switch so often. Thanks to getting half the bonuses for picking them up I feel like Armor should be the last thing I upgrade.
>>339339187
You give up too easily, in Plutonia for every hard fight you will get the proper weapon/ammo before, be mindful of your surroundings and use your weapons/ammo wisely. Don't get scared just because there is a strong enemy early on here is always a weapon placed for that enemy.
Great wad
>>339345161
1 had a few issues. 2 is a much more polished experience, so go play that if you can't get through 1.
>>339346659
That one wasn't hard, though. They had nothing to res, and you had plenty of wall to hide behind.
>>339337226
What a piece of fucking shit.the voices should be in Japanese
>>339358283
But that would be heaven..
>>339337226
> after decades finally get a porn mod
> it redesignes all monsters
Did you really have to slap red hair on an imp to make it sexy? What was wrong about /fit/-knights body and tight butt? Cacodemon already has lewd holes on the original sprites was it really necessary to put some tits on it?
Fuck man. I'm telling you. If you're out there and have a fetish, you better pick one that is popular.
>>339336747
TNT is still when the difficulty was reasonable. If you think that's hard prepare to throw your computer out over Plutonia.
>new doom has minigun
>it needs to spin up
great
>>339336747
>TNT
>E1M3
The fact that nobody called this out shows that everyone in this thread started playing doom a few weeks ago.
risen...
>>339359739
>>339359808
someone post that picture of the sexy cacodemon girl
This is doom :D
Doom4 cool but disapointed by map editor and other things...
Brutal doom rules now..
>>339360194
>beat Heretic
>fuck that was great
>try out Hexen
>shit enemies
>shit level design
>shit traps everywhere
>hub design is cool, but going in circles trying to find out what to do next is a chore
>classes are a neat idea, but only get four weapons
What went right?
>>339341713
>My simple monster closet pic got saved and reposted
Feels nice. Now I kinda want to make another one with more demons.
>>339353978
I've heard conflicting things about Ultra Nightmare.
Is it "you die, start at beginning of the game again".
Or is it "you died, start the mission again".
Because if it's actual perma-death and not just no checkpoints in missions, then fuck that. But if it's the second version I'll probably do it eventually.
>>339360943
you start from the very beginning every time no checkpoints at all
>>339359584
Or maybe nobody 'called it out' because correcting such an insignificant mistake is not something a grown up feels the need to do.
>All the scrubs ITT
I'd post 200% MAD if it wasn't already posted, so instead have my DOOM bingo OC.Recommend so more Doom trivia/skill tests worth of being put on a bingo board and I may make a new version. "Knows how the BFG9000 properly works" and "Cleared Perfect Hatred on UV, pistol start" will be two of them.
>>339361048
Can you save and quit? Or does it have to be done in a single sitting?bevause fuck you ID I'll save scum my way through on Ps4
If you think TNT is hard, you better get your ass ready for the bullshit that is Plutonia Experiment. That shit's stupid.
>>339361239
Whoops meant to reply to
>>339361028
>>339357426
whos the girl on the left?
>>339361317
The newest character for Demonsteele. She has metal gauntlets that have several different modes that let her do other cool shit. She uses her fists and kicks demons in the face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuYelYgq5A
>>339361392
What the hell, I don't remember her looking like that ingame. She was like a schoolgirl android with light blue hair.
>>339361657
That sprite's placeholder art. That's just Yuki from The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi.
