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>140+ damage at close range >250 health >Best escape
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>140+ damage at close range
>250 health
>Best escape in the game
>Teleport
>Q that turns everything to glass within a certain radius
Well, it lasted almost a week. I guess balance and Overwatch just aren't things that go well together.
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>>339307292
>Best escape in the game
>slowly flies away while the enemy gets to reload and chase you
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no.
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>tfw zenyatta
>150 health and slowest hero in the game, can't even keep up with reinhardt

still my favorite hero to play, those potg's are glorious
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who /shittier/ here
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>>339307574
I'm pretty sure it makes you go faster as well, just most reapers are retarded and instead of backing away they move toward the enemies
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>>339307660
>genji, hanzo

weeb confirmed
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I have tried out both McCree and Reaper and I had a consistently easier time fucking shit up with Reaper. It's true that McCree kills people faster, but Reaper has the means to both get to them faster to start attacking and to dodge shit, plus his ultimate is better because it requires no wind up or waiting time.

So yeah, it's always funny to me how people say McCree is overpowered but no one seems to care about Reaper.

>>339307574
He flies faster than his normal run speed and he can pick up medkits while he's in wraith form, not to mention he can just go behind your lines where people would be foolish to follow.
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>>339307292
>teleport iis slow as shit and telegraphs hard
>best escape is floating away at running speed while the other guy just follows you and stomps your shit when you stopped
>"DIE DIE DUUUURRRGG"
He's nothing special.
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>>339307810
>At least 3 McCrees in every match at any given time
>Lucio ALWAYS picked
>Reinhardt ALWAYS picked

J U S T
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>>339307292
Teleport is complete shit.

Wraith is great. Somewhat useless in 1 v 1 situations but if you're playing him properly he should be in the thick of the action and be able to drift off out of danger whilst opponents are too busy to chase.

He's a great close range fighter. Causes complete mayhem. Noobs shit their pants when he starts his finisher, gracefully dancing around his opponents whilst lighting them up like christmas trees.
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>>339307810
man fuck McCree
>pushing payload
>3 guys are shooting, 1 guy is flanking, and 2 are pushing the cart
>suddenly IT'S HIGH NOON
>whip around looking for mccree, find him just as he pulls the trigger
>the only people alive are the flanker and the guy on the other side of the cart
>going after him means he kills you in one combo, sending 2 means one of you is dead, and the cart isn't moving
This is every fucking payload match, when will it stop
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>>339308464
Rein is good for carrying rdm peeps (snipers, bastions, etc.). They just chill behind his shield while Rein pushes slowly pushes forward, and pick off kills while everyone focuses on Rein.

Lucio is the easiest character to play and actually be a benefit to your team. He is the easiest person to survive as because of his speed, and he out-heals every-other support in the game simply by being close to people.
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>>339308121
>>339307660
>tfw slave to the cart
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>>339307292
Dying to Mr.Bones ult? You need to get GOOD my nigga if you wanna make it in the Overwatch scene homie *takes a vape*
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>Invincible during the start up of teleport
Wew, it just keeps getting better.
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>>339308908
>and he out-heals every-other support in the game simply by being close to people.
Not true. He only out heals Mercy if the enemy team has no clue how to focus fire. There's a reason why all pro teams have to run a Mercy.
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>>339307748
It's a minimal speed increase, maybe 10% over most heros run speeds. It's not going to let you zip away.
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>>339309146
True, but most games with randoms aren't that smart, and lucio heals everybody at the same time, while not as much singularly as zen or mercy.
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>>339308716
>be genji
>hear that it's high noon
>reflect all shots back at him
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it's okay guys, i'll get to screen cap some Cloud 9 vs Liquid team comps shortly. Get to see them dank as fuck Winston, Rein, Lucio, Mercy, Widow McCree setups
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>>339308667
you sound like just the guy to play reaper
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>>339309457
explain...
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>>339309359
You mean one shot?

>>339309445
McCree and Lucio will be perma picked. Reinhardt and Mercy will picked on anything that isn't KOTH.

Calling it now.
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>>339307810
I like fighting reinhardt with McCree. Roll past his shield and hit him with a flash.
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What would you guys do to change the balance of OW?

I'd make Zen faster, the dude is a healing assassin, he shouldn't be as slow or slower than a fucking moving turret.

I'd make Genji faster, and decrease the cooldown of his deflect, while at the same time making it not last as long, so deflecting flashbangs can actually be a counter to things like Mcree's flashbang, rather than simply a buffer.
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>>339309926
You can just throw the flash above his head moron
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where are my pharah colleagues? she'll be recognized as OP soon tbhfam
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>>339310072
Well... I'm going to throw my flash above YOUR head.
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>>339307292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcrHq7t_AU
His name is not important.
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>>339308121
>>339307660
>>339308991
Learning how to play each character one at a time. Not too shabby.
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Post your Master Overwatch ratings faggots

https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/shared/bdb78cdb0fe6f22c
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>>339310216
Ratings don't mean shit and are only compared to the people that go to that site. That site is shit in general.
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>>339307292

there are only 2 blatantly overpowered characters in the game: McCree and Lucio. Mercy's ult is kinda dumb too
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>>339310292

It rates all players that have played the game. It pulls the data through blizzard's API, same way WoW does.
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>>339308908

this desu. reinhardt is always a safe choice because your high damage dealers can hide behind his shield while you push forward. reinhardt isn't even hard to play to be at least sorta useful to your team; literally walk forward with your team and hold M2. then you can eventually learn how to beat niggas down.
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>>339310320

Competitive players think that the only two heroes that need to be nerfed are McCree and Widowmaker.
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>>339310320
mercy as a character outside of her ultimate is fine. i'd probably hate her less if her ultimate didnt charge so damn fast.
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>>339310216
Mine's not great.
https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/BruisedMilk-1396
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>>339310351
Nope, it only pulls ratings from people that have been searched in the site before. Also, the ratings are based on how many medals you have, which means you get a better rating for playing more, not for playing better.
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>>339307810
They really should've removed hero stacking.

This isn't TF2 where it's 32 players. This is only 12 players.
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SOME OF THAT KOTH META
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>>339310460

Her ult charges so quickly that it almost encourages you to be pretty liberal with it at times, especially if you're defending and your team is doing really well.

>One person is dead and my ult is up, I guess I'll use it so I can recharge it in 30 seconds
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Pharah's kinda not doing it for me. Everytime I play her, I just want to switch to Junkrat instead.

You're just a floating target.
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>>339310351
i can't find myself
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>>339310538
game already has those options, for 1 repick, 2 repicks, 2 of the same only, 1 of the same only, etc...

Comp scene will probably turn to one of those.
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>>339310216
whats the format for battletag says it cant find name
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>>339310674
>liberal

Fuck off

>>>/pol/
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>>339310538
Yes, sven if they don't change characters games can be more than Lucio and McCree
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>>339310216
https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/shared/2208ae16c85249e8
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>>339310723

It's case sensitive and you have to have your full battletag (yourName#9999)
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>>339307660

HAHA

no
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>>339310723
You also have to the put in the number next to your name.
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>>339310674
I generally use it ona nyone who'd take forever to get back or someone important like a rein.

But yeah. its stupid when mercy is vs. mercy it just stalemates forever or whoever uses resurrect 2nd, unless one of the mercies dies. they should make mercy stand still longe rthe more people she rezzes so its more likely she'll be out of the fight for a bit.
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>>339308121
>Play Zen in beta
>Harmony orb hardly heals
>Play Zen on release
>Harmony orb does good healing
Feels good.
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>>339310538
Yes, even if they don't change characters games can be more than Lucio and McCree
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>>339310696

>a floating target

This is only the case if you randomly fly up in the air. She's all about fast paced constant movement
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>>339310786

good shitpost m80; I got a good laugh.
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>>339310627
>>339307810
What does a Lucio even do in comp?
They gave this guy the most amazing mobility since UT2K4 but then completely fucked him by turning him into the aura bot that needs los with his team to be useful.
I mean fuck, you can literally never touch the ground on most maps but what's the point apart from contesting points forever on koth maps?
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>>339311089
heal aura
speed aura
decent damage gun
fantastic knockback
really hard to kill
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RANK 154 bitch

does that even mean anything
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>people think fucking Reaper is OP

so many shitters my god

the only OP characters are McCree and Widowmaker
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>>339311251

>US

No, it doesn't.
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Am... Am I-I helping?
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>>339310216
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>>339311217
Sadly, that doesn't have much to do with his mobility. Dude could have been so much more fun as a Tracer like harasser.
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>>339307810
>>339310627
>Unironically trying to make this shit competitive
I sincerely hope this shit flops like HotS or SC2 for competitiveness. There is a reason that nobody took competitive TF2 seriously.
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The worst part about this stupid fucking game is that you actually get penalized for leaving early. Why the hell would I want to stick with a team that sucks shit?
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>>339311376
Beta Cuck
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Necessary changes to balance Overwatch

>Reduce the effectiveness of Lucio's Amp It Up
>Increase the charge time for Widow's sniper rifle
>Increase the charge time for Mercy's ultimate
>Reduce the damage on McCree's FTH
>Reduce the size of D.Va's headbox to her actual head versus the entire cockpit
>Give D.Va an alt fire for a medium range attack
>Boost Zen and Sym's health to 200 HP
>Increase the duration of Zen's healing orbs
>Move Symmetra from Support to Defense
>Give an additional 100 Armor to Pharah when activating her ultimate
>Decrease the charge time for Molten Core
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>>339311682
cuz leaving will definitely hurt their chances even more leading to the one-sided stomp games
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>>339311674

Except that a fairly sizable community DID take competitive TF2 seriously. Overwatch is also in a better place to become a competitive game.
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Umm...how the hell does Loo Witch have the highest win rate in the game?

I play her a lot just cause she's fun but I usually only win if I'm lucky.

website is watcher.gg
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>>339310216
https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/eu/Krag-2618
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>>339311682
>why do I get penalized for being a faggot

Never change /v/
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>>339311915

Her teleport is extremely beneficial to your team. Less people play her because they're bad with her, so the people who do play her tend to be more comfortable with her abilities and playstyles
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>>339311682
I left games early two times and never got a penalty.
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>>339311682

games are short
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Is this a meme game?
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>>339307660
IM SHIT

I FUCKING HATE IT

I AM NOT CREDIT TO TEAM

I SHOULD UNINSTALL BUT I AM NOT GOING TO
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Lucio and McCree really need nerfs. I tend to lean on the side of thinking reaper is fine, he's just easy to play.


Pic related is best offense IMO. So much fucking fun.
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>>339310216

https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Renegade-12299
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>>339311982
The only faggots are the people I keep getting grouped with. If they didn't suck so much, I wouldn't need to leave so often.
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>>339312349
sounds like u should stick to arcade mode u can leave & enter whenever u want. perfect for the casual audience :)
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>>339307292
>bitching about Reaper

You're supposed to bitch about Bastion if you want to tell people you're bad.
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Reaper is probably one of the easiest ones to kill when playing as the other offensive characters. The shotguns he has have incredibly poor range.

As tracer just keep ~7m distance and headshot drop him in a single clip whilst all his hits do like 10 damage.

He flies away? Teleport after him, reload and instakill when he goes normal again. Ultimate? Just keep a mild distance or press E to rewind.
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>>339310189
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The problem is the offense heroes (other than tracer) are not adequately balanced compared to the rest of the cast. They have their weaknesses like everyone else, but the risk/reward for them is too unbalanced. Literally babby tier heroes designed for shooty bang bang FPS kids.
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>>339307587
high difficulty mean highest bragging right.
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>>339308005
Mcree is a counter to fast classes
Reaper is a counter to tanks
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>>339313091
Except McCree rapes everything including tanks
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>>339310827
Someone is a team player

I love you
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>>339313156
If he can get the flashbang fan roll fan off perfectly
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>>339313276
It's not exactly hard to do even if you don't flash you can hit tanks easily
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How much damage does melee do in this game? it seems to do nothing half the time.
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>>339313091
But Reaper beats anyone at close range.
And he has the best tools to get close range.
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>>339313648
McCree beats reaper
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>>339311915
She's a great defense character but a shitty support.
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>Reaper runs in
>DIEDIED-
>Gets hooked
>PigguTime.exe

Why is Piggu the best tank in the game?
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r8 me
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>>339313813
I can actually land hooks with roadhog but I am still terrible with him. Most of the games I have over 60% hook accuracy rating.

I hook them, I shoot them once with my shotgun, and sometimes I follow up immediately with a melee strike and that is enough to kill squishy characters. Other times after the hook + melee they are able to run away with me trying to chase them down with the shotgun.
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>>339310351
>It rates all players that have played the game.
No it doesn't. You should have seen the thread here where people first found it, everyone was top 100 in at least one hero
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>>339314003
Hold M1 down and mash melee. He will auto body shot the second its ready and melee can be used instantly after the shot. This will kill most.

Only Reaper, Mcree and tanks will survive so you need to be pick about when you chain them.
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>>339314316
>Hold M1 down and mash melee

Awesome man, thanks for the tip.
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reaper is a mid tier hero at best

widowmaker and mcree are the really broken ones
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>>339314003
The combo is hook, hold down W (to walk forward) and M1, soon as you see the shoot animation, melee

Also, you can interrupt your reload animation with melee or hook, and once you see the hopper is full of scrap (or when the x/4 says 4/4) you're safe to interrupt the animation
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I used to think Reaper was the most anti-fun character in the game but that title now belongs to Mei in my eyes
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>>339314316
>>339314461

Thanks guys. Also the other issue I have Roadhog is trying to get him in a good position to hook. Since the range isn't all that great on some maps I find it really difficult to get in a position where I am not standing out in the open giving the enemy free ult charge.

So instead on maps like Route 66 I have to constantly stick to the tunnels and buildings.
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>tfw gold heal medal as roadhog
>have a mercy on the team
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>>339314627
The range is actually deceptively large anyway

>Pay load maps
>You should spend 99% of your time behind the objective
>Bob and weave while pulling people in

>Objective maps
>Bob and weave and keep an eye on the flank
>Bull back row people in and flankers while they are peeking

Also once you git gud with piggu you can do trick shots like jump chaining a sniper down
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>Play Roadhog
>See a Reaper try to float in
>Throw your hook out when he ults
>DI...ugh
>Dead

Reaper is only good against retards.
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>>339314480
>tfw fanning the annoying characters like Mei and Tracer
No better feeling.
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>Bastion is overpowered!
>Mei is overpowered!
>Lucio is overpowered!
>Reaper is overpowered!
>Widowmaker is overpowered!
>McCree is overpowered!
>If it can kill me, nerf it. NNNNNEEEERRRFF!

So many shitters. I'm gonna choose to believe that none of the heroes are inherently overpowered and it's all situational, so I can play who I want to, how I want to, and not give a fuck about the perceptions of whiners.

And don't start spouting "B-BUT MUH PRO PLAYERS! SEE, IN THE COMPETITIVE META..."

No one should rightly care. The fact these threads cause so much infighting is proof in and of itself that nothing is conclusive in regards to any character.
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>>339307292
>>>/vg/
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>>339314927
No they are all overpowered, Blizzard's concept of balance has always been "When everyones IMBA, no ones IMBA"

Though I'd tweak bastion a little. He can be dealt with but he shits out a little too much damage for my tastes.
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>>339309214
30% faster. Same speed as Lucio under the effects of the standard speed music.
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>tfw getting people salty as widowmaker because i'm bodyshotting them to death

lmao get owned noobs
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>>339311826
>>Reduce the size of D.Va's headbox to her actual head versus the entire cockpit
Just remove it altogether.
It's too in the center of her so getting a crit isn't just easy, it's borderline guaranteed if you're in front of her and she doesn't have matrix up.
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>>339315183
>Watch the replay
>5 missed shots before the Widow finally lands one then misses twice more mashing M1 for a body shot.

If you want to make people salty, rerol Mei or Bastion
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>>339315323
what matters is that i killed them and there mad lol.
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>>339314917
You are the annoying character.
>muh e stun fan kill

Far worse. Mei is also dogshit.
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>>339314917
You realize you're playing a character just as if not more annoying right
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>>339307660
I sometimes do okay. Most times I'm completely appalling.
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>>339315452
Shitter detected.

I love McCree. More than the fact that he's a cool cowboy, I love that everybody has this weird perception of him being overpowered and you can tell who's bad and who's not based on who's smart enough to outmaneuver him and who can't.

Stay salty and keep those "pro player" cocks down your throat.
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>level 30+
>at least 2 pharas on each team

i'm fucking done
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>Blizzard
>Balancing
KeK
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>>339314927
If a hero is annoying in the hands of a shitty player and fucking annoying in the hands of a good player to the point where they stack 3 of them in comp, then there's a problem with said hero.

I don't understand why they haven't locked heroes to one of each max per team yet.
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>>339315816
Overwatch is best played with friends :^)
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>>339307292
Ooo is it Reaper's day to be called OP? I know yesterday was all about McCree...
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>>339315769
Kill yourself fucking retard you're not better than tourney players and you play the most op offensive character by far and complain about Mei and call her annoying while she's fucking terrible
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>>339316514
I didn't complain about Mei, you paranoid shitstain. I play her when my team is on defense, actually. But please keep raging, it sustains me.

>>339316571
Nope, legitimate McCree player here loving the salt. All day every day.
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>>339307292
Reaper gets wrecked at long range though.
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>>339316760
>calls Mei and tracer annoying
>plays McCreE+right click

If you're not the same guy stop responding like you are.
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>>339310216
Could people stop using this shit as an indicator of skills and shit. It's purely based on how much time you've spent on the character as it counts your "total score".
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>>339309214
>most heroes

All heroes move at the same speed. Yes, even tracer and roadhog.
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>>339315769
This. Mccree scrubs get shat on super hard but true Mccree mains know how to distance and when to rush
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>>339315769
So, pros (people that have outright admitted Lucio and Mccree are OP) are shitters now?

Yea, no, you're just looking for am excuse to "main" (by the way, only shitters main a single character) an OP character for easy kills
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>>339316897
>If you're not the same guy stop responding like you are.

Oh sorry, do you need a way to conveniently sort us all so your brain doesn't short out from not being able to efficiently shitpost each McCree player?
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>>339310320
Nah lucio is ok numerically, there just isn't another healer in the game who specializes in topping up the team yet. If he gets nerfed now and another one comes out he'll be fucked.

High Noon Man and Le Balanced Sniper Lady need nerfs though. Widow charges her shots too fast and has no right to actually be able to defend herself at close range given how hard it even is to get close to her in the first place.
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Lasers!
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>>339307810
If hero stacking wasn't a thing Mcree would be a 1 off, and even then I am not sure. Only reason he is so successful at the pro level is because of Lucio.

Lucio just speed boosts his slow ass in to burst people down, and because there are usually 2 mcree's its two people dropped in seconds.
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>read roadhogs story
>After the Omnic Crisis, government officials gifted the Australian omnium and the surrounding area to the omnics that had nearly destroyed their country, hoping to establish a long-term peace accord.

>straya government literally cucked its citizens and gave land to the robot murderes
>calling roadhog a criminal for fighting it

TOP KEK
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>>339307292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcrHq7t_AU
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USING THE KAIOKEN
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>>339317241
>shitpost

Yeah not like the McCree fags desperately defending their retarded cheese hero.
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>>339307292
>Best escape in the game
Not Tracer exists.
If anybody needs a nerf its her
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>>339315452
>>339315497
Buttmad chink and britbong detected.
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>>339317295
Spheres!
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>I fell for the PC gaming meme and now have to use buttons/keys with my pinky
>leftshift and cap lock are actual keys in PC games
absolutely disgusting
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>>339317570
Not while widow still has her stupid charge rate. If Tracer doesn't use all her dashes to get through widows sight lines a good widow can just click on her anywhere and she dies to one bodyshot.
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>>339317570
She's only good in koth and payload stalls though. She's too weak and fragile against a coordinated group
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Jesus fucking chirst Mei is fucking annoying. You get within 5 feet of her and you're fucking dead, it's over.
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>>339317134
>Yea, no, you're just looking for am excuse to "main" (by the way, only shitters main a single character) an OP character for easy kills

I don't need an excuse and I certainly don't need to justify myself to you, fuccboi. I played McCree from the very start because I like cowboys and westerns and the fact that he causes palpable amounts of asshurt is just icing on the cake. I will "main" him if I want to, especially if our team is on offense, you can't go wrong with having a McCree.


>>339317560
See above. Your fragile sense of what constitutes dignity in this game doesn't apply to anyone else.
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>>339317701
Underage as fuck

Moderators
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>>339317701
You'll git gud someday.
Also, you can remap keys. Not sure what the fuck you're playing that uses caps lock as a key though
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>>339317784
I don't need to justify anything I'm saying. The fact that some teams literally run 3 fucking mccrees effectively at a tourney level is evidence enough for your shitty faggot hero you cheesing shitter.
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>>339317776
if you dont have a good escape then youre basically dead in a 1v1
unsurprisingly she gets shit on by heros with good range
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>>339310216
Mei master race reporting in
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>tfw end up playing Mercy every match because nobody else ever wants to heal and you literally cannot win without a healer
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>>339317693
yo you a pro, yeah? when do you pass into the iris? I always seem to do it at the exact wrong time
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>>339317701
lol look at this shitter only good with 1 character, and the most OP one at that.
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>>339317910
>Mercy every match.

You're doing it wrong.

>Defense
Mercy
>Cart Pushing
Zenyatta
>Control Point
Lucio

Their ults are literally made for this shit.
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>>339317907
Enjoy being hated in Comp mode for being worthless.
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>>339317891
And I'll continue to carry my team on offense and get those sweet, sweet POTGs with my shitty faggot hero ;)
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>>339317941
is Lucio the most OP character?
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>>339317891
What makes you think it will be any different after Mcree gets touched or hero stacking goes away? Class based shooters always do this, as soon as Mcree is nerfed you'll see Tracer genji stacking in every game instead, and they are far more annoying to deal with at every level. Mcree just shits on people at close range.
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>>339318045
Lucio is the one that blasts you off the map right? Admittedly I've only tried a few of the heroes so far.
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>>339318052
Mei will be picked once people realize that she dumpsters every hero that isnt Pharah and when McCree is nerfed. You can just wall off Widows, walk through reinhardt shields and two icicle drop like every single hero.
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>>339311915
because defense is easy and she's golden vs most reinhardts

if more people used her, that rating would be tanked because of how hard she is to work properly
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>>339317910
>Caring about winning
>Over enjoying yourself
Nah son, I would rather lose than have to play Mercy every round.
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God I'm watching that tournament and the """"""""""analysts"""""""""" are so fucking trash.
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>>339318262
I'm sure the people who have be playing comp for half a year already understand how worthless she is.
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>>339318248
>Lucio is the one that blasts you off the map right?
Yes.

But most likely the enemy Lucio will blast you 600 miles away, while you blast someone an inch away. Characters get knocked back depending on their weight so think about that before you mash dat right click.
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>>339318243
Not even close. and both are way harder than McCree. Nerfing McCree doesn't mean he will disappear from comp either.
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>>339317932
Use it for:
- Initiating a push
- contesting for clutch overtime
- surviving Phara, Reaper, Soldier, Hogs, Genjis and Hanzos Ult

You can also use it to block Bastions or putting yourself in front of Soldiers auto-aim

In most cases you wanna fire it early, rather then late UNLESS you know the enemy got one of the above mentioned Ults ready
You have to judge for yourself if your team is competent enough to survive them

In very RARE cases it's worth using it just to survive getting ambushed as Zenyatta is also a really good anti-bastion/turret character
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>>339318436
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>>339317089
actually no, genji and tracer move slightly faster but everyone else is the same yes
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>>339318428
They really aren't, maybe at lower play. But then again you are one of those guys that does nothing but complain about things in every thread instead of dealing with it. And yes, he will if nerfed enough. There is a reason why Zen isn't picked at all anymore when he used to have near 100% participation. But please continue to spout butthurt all over the place.
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>>339318526
Discord and then charge up to blast him away
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>>339310216
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>>339318568
Because zen got overnerfed, you can nerf a character without making them fucking worthless, hell mccrees already gotten a nerf and it wasn't even close to being enough
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>>339318567
Oh good to know. It has to be something tiny like 10% at most though cuz I sure has hell haven't been able to notice it.
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>>339318526
Peek him with Widow/Pharah
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>>339317897
In close quarters areas it's impossible to outrange her. She wouldn't be as bad if you didn't get locked into freezing 1 second after she started doing it.
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>>339312349
"it's always my team thats shit"
the rallying cry of a shitter
the only thing in common every game
is you.
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>>339318425
I think characters all get pushed back the same. I can push back another Lucio as far as I can push a Rein.
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>>339318683
Mcree does damage, that's all he brings. Raw firepower, no real utility or anything that can help the team besides deleting people. Any nerfs to him and he will be a strictly worse pick flat out. The only reason he is picked so much right now is because its the emergent strategy. Before it was zen stacking with Genji and tracer, now its lucio stacking with Mcrees.

If lucio speed buff is nerfed Mcree will drop to a situational pick instead of auto include because he won't be able to close that distance anymore.
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>>339318771
thats when you bring out another Mei
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>>339308218

>hearing more than one DIE

You're either playing with the world's best Reaper or the world's worst team.
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>>339318683
If McCree gets nerfed anymore he WILL be fucking worthless compared to all of the utility that the rest of the cast has. His raw close-range damage output as an offensive 1v1 character is all he has going for him, take it away and anyone who picks McCree will have to work twice as hard to score kills as everyone else. There will be no point.
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>>339317907
>caring about k/d in an objective based game
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>>339310216
https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/kr/Pagliacci-6868

https://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Pagliacci-6868

I'm not that gud.
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>>339309823

If you're fast, you can dash towards him and save everyone that isn't far off to the side.

If he's got height, sure, that won't work, but you can always save at least one other person.
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>>339313629
~30?
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>>339314627
Don't forget that you can flank as roadhog too. Going deep into enemy territory, killing one and then going somewhere to heal. As long as your hook is up you should be prime to 1v1 anyone you meet.
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>Playing Roadhog.
>Everyone complaining I wasn't fighting people trying to point to me for the reason we lost.
>Little medal pops up for healing saying I took 60% of the teams damage.

Special thanks goes to the McCree and the Lucio that chased people like crazy and don't know how to stand on a fucking point the entire game.
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Is it bad if I play McCree as a flanker?
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>>339310216
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>>339318526
I go around. Doesn't look like the objective is in there.
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I want to be good at Hanzo but I don't have the twitch reflexes necessary to do it. I always start off as him when I can but soon change when I realize how much of a hindrance I'm being.
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>>339319248

you can play mcree as whatever and come out on top, his ult and e work well for flanks
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>>339319248
McCree excels in ambush, so no.
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>>339319441
That's exactly why I like playing him as a flanker. Getting behind the enemy and stunning them or HIGN NOONing them never gets old.
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>>339319585
He's fun, people just get mad that he does what he's supposed to, murder people 1v1.
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>>339317134
>So, pros (people that have outright admitted Lucio and Mccree are OP) are shitters now?
Who are these fucking "pros" you're talking about? The game is like barely two weeks old
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>>339318637
How are you doing so well as Zarya? What's the secret to racking up so many kills and gold medals? I understand the charge mechanics and all of that.
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Lucio
>Halve effectiveness of healing aura for Lucio only.
They've tried to bring him down to 150 hp once before but that made him garbage to play. Yet still, survivability is his strongest asset. He should be desensitized to his own music anyway.

McCree
>Remove flashbang, replace with dynamite toss.
Remember the original Sandman back in tf2? Where a scout could bean someone at close range and get a guaranteed kill on their helpless ass, and everyone knew this was total cancer and Valve quickly put it in line? Blizzard in their infinite wisdom decided to take this concept and give an AoE to it.

A stick of dynamite fits the cowboy theme better. It would step on Junkrat's toes a little, but a single somewhat strong grenade on a cooldown is still a lot different than having a grenade launcher for a primary weapon.

There, I just fixed the meta.
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>>339319682
>339319682
There is a competitive tourney going on right now

literally

right now
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>>339311915

>tp wins you games on offense
>tp wins you games on defense
>3 seconds of cover from your team lets you make any chokepoint a nightmare to clear
>fire-and-forget bonus healing

As long as you're not a retard that picks her as the sole support, you are guaranteed to be helping your team.
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>>339311089
>What does a Lucio even do in comp?
As a team you almost always want to move together. If half your team gets killed, the team is wise to wait for the respawns before going all in again. Which means you're all gonna be running from the spawn together more than once. Which means Lucio is great at delivering you there.

Plus his sound aura ultimate is great to buffer against high damage pushes which are frequent in coordinated play.

Lucio is basically made to carry coordinated gameplay.
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>>339317089
wrong, tracer and genji move at 6mp/s every one else is at 5.5mp/s
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>>339319846
>McCree
Make it pocket sand instead. AoE cone that requires line of sight instead of an AoE projectile.
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>>339311826
>decrease the charge time for Molten Core

No
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>>339307660
i cant aim
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PUMP IT UP
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>people think damage is the only way to go
>Tfw harassment characters and changing tide of battle
>those sweet sweet rage quits
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gud thred
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Widowmakers who get kills with bodyshot are fucking cancer.

Kill yourselves.
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>>339310216
I did not know I was actually good at Hanzo, neat
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>>339319353
Just stick to it Anon, this is Unranked. So what if you lose a bunch? Just means your opponents will be that much easier
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>>339318526
KYOTO DA
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>>339319682
Uh, I guess you didn't know, but top tier tourneyfags from other games have been playing the game for nearly a year as part of Blizzad's "content creator" program
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ALWAYS REINHARDT
ONLY REINHARDT
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>>339321836
>2.24
>good
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>>339319850
They're still noobs as far as I'm concerned. They have no authority.Proper Esports metagames don't form overnight, Check back with me in six month
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>>339322308
based
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>>339307292
Is it fun? ive been tempted to spend the 40 dollarydoo's to try to play it, and tf2 was alright
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>>339311674
>sc2
>flopped competitively.

Lol.

It's probably has the forth host competitive following.

LoL>Cs:go>dota2>sc2

Not to mention extremely loyal followers. High production tournaments, and an organized league sttucture.

Sc2 is literally the best rts, and one of the best games, for competitive play.
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>>339322562
Its pretty fun
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>>339322449
The meta evolves as it's played. It's not 6 "months of game and suddenly there's a meta". The meta of this current tourney is that McCree has more than a 100% pickrate, with Lucio following closely and Widow behind that.
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>>339322656
Is it good for like hopping on to play a few rounds after being tired as fuck from work?
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>>339322771
Sure if you can handle dealing with retarded pubs on occasion.
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>>339322771
Yes. You can just boot it up, get in a few quickplay matches and log off.
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>>339322771
Absolutely, rounds dont take longer than 10 mins, can be done in 5 if you kick ass.
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>>339307292
You misclicked, Anon.
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>>339322308
My fellow german negro
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>>339323265
Glorious German Precision
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So what's the competitive opinion of Mei?
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>>339323416
Garbage, she is only effective 1v1, in a team environement where you are always up your teams ass she isn't freezing anyone without dying.
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how do i enter competitive mode? when i click play, all i get are quick play, vs ai, custom, and arcade
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>>339323416
Almost worthless.

The only time she is used is on defense when attackers are inches away from ending the game to stall the cart.
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>>339313907
I like the cut of your jib anon
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Git outa here with that shit
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>DIE DIE DIE
>press shift
>IT'S HIGH NOON
>press shift
>[INARTICULATE JAPANESE SCREAMING]
>press shift
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
>press shift
>I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
>press shift
>[MOTOR REVVING]
>press shift
>DODGE THIS
>press shift
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>press shift

I don't see why people bitch about McCree or Reaper tbqh
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>>339325660
>HAMMER DOWN
>hold LMB to kill piggy
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>>339323732
>>339323523

Are her walls not of any worth?
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>>339325813
>HAMMER DOWN
>get up and take a sippy because reinhardts dps is so low
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This game's tickrate is absolute fucking horseshit. Everything feels fucking awful because shit clearly doesn't register right and nothing moves smoothly. Jankiest fucking shooter I've ever played.
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>>339325660
>DODGE THIS
>DODGE THIS
>DODGE
Why did this trigger me so badly?
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>>339323684
This
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>>339326250

I'm sorry anon, but D.Va is so useless that I don't pay much attention to her.
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>pharah uses her ult
>someone kills her and cuts her voice off
>JUST
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>>339326721
>Doesn't matter because she still wiped the whole team
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