When does this get good?
around 5 minutes in
>>339302331
When he walks in on a random guy's house unwarranted.
Eh, its a good game. But a shit resident evil game.
If you're not enjoying it after the village sequence, it might not be the game for you.
>>339302331
It doesn't, It was the downfall of RE and anyone saying otherwise is a normie casual.
>>339302331
>Not enjoying the village
>>339302331
It really doesn't get any better after you arrive in the castle, it's just escort mission the game.
When you invade that poor defenseless man's house and murder him in cold blood.
>>339302675
>i can't handle change and am a terrible aspie faget
>>339302331
Colliesto colliesto colliesto
>>339302752
You can place the girl anywhere and she hardly gets in the way due to less than stellar a.i.
Stop exaggerating.
>>339302331
When you hear the chainsaw for the first time.
>>339302912
I'm not exaggerating, and you can't just hide her anywhere.
Where did you hide ashley during the crank area in the castle? You know the one I'm talking about.
I wouldn't have to call it an escort mission if she atleast had a fucking gun.
>>339302331
What do you mean? The game is good as soon as you start it.
Not many games are like that.
>>339303248
>if she atleast had a fucking gun.
Which would ruin the entire purpose of the game.
>>339303365
So you're admitting it's an escort mission game.
>>339303248
It's a pretty notorious escort, yeah, but to call it "escort mission: the game" seems like a bit much. There are much worse examples.
>>339303248
The way you talk about it being an escort mission implies it's a bad thing, like in most other games the NPC will get stuck or lag behind you so you're always stopping and starting.
It's not the case in Resi 4. Finished it on GC, Wii and PC several times on Professional, and she never holds me back, never gets in the way, doesn't detract from the experience at all in any way, shape or form.
The village and the island are the good parts
Fuck the castle
>>339303537
For the sake of debate, I'll go along with it: having Ashley along is, by some stretch of the definition, an escort mission.
Your argument is flawed, however, as it implies that escort missions are inherently bad.
>>339303537
Not that anon, but she's only with you maybe 30% of the game, if that. She's also the most competent escort I've ever seen in any game I've played. She doesn't fight, but she doesn't run into enemies or walk into your line of sight like an idiot. Plus that's the whole purpose of the game: to rescue her.
>>339303248
People bitching about Ashley never had to escort Sherry around in RE2.
>>339303853
>escort Sherry
wat. this never happens
>>339303696
so glad i had the cash for the rocket launcher on first playthrough to smash the little fuckers head in at the top of the castle.
>>339303928
...Did you only play Leon's part?
>>339302331
Should have played it a gen earlier anon.
>>339303597
there maybe much worse examples, but you can't ignore the glaring obvious problem with it.
>>339303681
>like it's a bad thing
It IS a bad thing
>>339303698
Why the fuck would you think escort missions are fun? Name another game with a "fun" escort mission where the said escort had no weapon.
>>339302675
Well, technically Resident Evil 3 started the over the top action direction that the rest of the series followed. Wide variety of guns, bazooka, dodging mechanic. That fucking end, holy shit.
People just blame 4 because it was different. And you can't say Capcom didn't try, they made 3 whole prototypes before we got the RE4 we have.
>>339302854
Morir es vivir. Morir es vivir.
>>339303928
>didn't even finish the fucking game
Nice going, fag
>>339303830
to rescue someone usually means you give them something for self defense, like a fucking gun...or a knife...pepper spray...fucking ANYTHING
>>339303853
Not the same, and not nearly as tedious as what you're implying.
>>339304067
>That fucking end, holy shit
I'm about 2/3rd's of the way through RE3 right now. You're making me want to power through the rest so bad, but god damn it, this one is so much longer than 2.
>>339304256
>She stops moving and cries if you hold down the run button
You're right. It's not NEARLY as bad.
>>339304048
>Why the fuck would you think escort missions are fun?
Escorts add an inherently deeper element to survival; the NPC's health must be taken into account when strategizing, not just your own. It's another degree of satisfying challenge in a game as survival focused as RE4.
It can be done poorly, usually when the NPC is given its own independent movement (nine times out of ten a steady stroll in a straight line, making easy pickings for enemies). But to imply that this is always the case is wrong.
Naming games is unnecessary, as this information speaks for itself. But one of the best levels in Earthworm Jim, for example, is based around guiding an escort home. There are other games that succeed at this, as well.
>>339304592
>needing to run in the first place
do you not know how to shoot or something?
>>339302331
Never, you fell for the meme, this is the episode that killed resident evil
>>339304256
Implying she knew how to use a gun properly, she would be able to take out maybe one or two enemies at best? Wouldn't really be worth the risk and time when you have Leon there taking out enemies left and right. She's not completely useless, but in terms of combat it would be too risky to use her.
>>339304632
You know what would of been a great strategy for not just for my survival but hers? Giving her a weapon!
>>339304732
You know what? I hear this so much, but I didn't feel like RE got bad until 6.
From the first second.
If you don't like it then you are probably a homosexual.
>can't even get past the village
yes the first fucking level and I keep dying
getting swarmed by a dozen zombies with just a handgun, having to jog up and down a trail, line up a few shots, then when they get too close, run through them again to the opposite end of the trail and still somehow they manage to get behind me
I suppose I can see why RE5 was hated though, it's so much easier
>>339304869
>muh waifu
weebs are the worst
>>339304048
I don't remember it being horrible, take Dead Rising for instance. It's a good game, but the survivor a.I. was so bad, that any opportunity to carry them or hold their hand and charging through zombies was better than risking them running into a hoard or wherever you were hitting. It can be done okay or bad
>>339304847
In Resident Evil, you're either moving or standing in place shooting. Why the fuck would I want her wasting time standing in one spot shooting the hoards of ganados when all I need is for her to get from Point A to Point B?
>>339304847
Once again: this would have removed the strategic element that's present due to her lack of self-defense.
It sounds like you're placing too much value on finishing a game as opposed to the processes needed to do so.
>>339302331
Once you find the girl it gets worse tbqh
>tfw my Gamecube version got stolen, so now I'm stuck with the PS2 version
I got back at him though, I never gave back Metroid Prime
>>339304805
>she's a frail little girl
You know what usually makes up for that? Shooting a gun, or using a taser, or having a knife to stab someone grabbing her like they were used in earlier games.
I'm not asking for a lot here, I'm just saying if I'd rescue something, I'd like to make sure they can handle a worst case scenario if we get split up or I died. Because what went down in RE4 was not rescuing, I felt like I was just going after the same fucking carrot over and over again.
What's even more annoying is that Leon doesn't even try to backtrack, he goes DEEPER into the shit, that's not a rescue mission. There was no point going deep into enemy territory like that.
>>339305164
what's the difference?
>>339304941
Keep moving in that section, don't stay in the same place too long or you'll get overwhelmed. Are you running? You can usually outrun them (except Dr. Salvador who rushes you with the chain saw).
>>339304941
>headshot, then kick will hit the majority of crowds
>you can go for knees if necessary
>grenades scattered around
All else fails,get the shotgun in the house. But be prepared to avoid Doc.
I feel bad for anyone who played the PC version...
The controls aren't even usable.
>>339302789
>sorry to bother you
>starts to leave
>mad farmer picks up an axe with intent to kill you
>>339305203
PS2 version looks worse, ruins the lighting (one of the best parts of the Gamecube version), and changes enemy/ammo placements in a way to make the game a lot easier.
only good deepercutt youtube poop was the re4 one
http://vee.scay.net
>>339302789
>Defenseless
Tried to murder me with an axe, the fucker
>>339305249
Chainsaw guy had a name?
Wii version is the only good version.
Why weren't there more FPSs for the Wii since it literally has the best controls for an FPS ever?
>>339305014
Dead Rising is a terrible escort game, I was completely turned off the moment they wanted me to save people.
>>339305021
Because if you just killed everyone, you'd be able to get to point A to point B a lot smoother.
>>339305023
Don't give me that bullshit, letting her have items would of only expanded the strategic element and deepen the item management system they implemented in the cache case. So not only would you have to worry about Leon's kickass weaponry, but keep items for Ashley as well in case certain scenarios caused her to use them.
Guys remember this shit?
>>339305201
>What's even more annoying is that Leon doesn't even try to backtrack, he goes DEEPER into the shit
Well this is a guy who made his own custom RCPD uniform and wore it to work on the first day. He's not very smart
Massive fucking tits.
>>339305541
You mean easy mode version
Del Lago or El Gigante. To be honest, it gets good whenyou git gud.
>>339305541
re4 isn't an fps, it's a tps. there were lots of fps for the wii like Conduit and CoD4, they aren't that good unless you keep the sensitivity really low. aiming is decent but turning is terrible.
>>339305659
I had both the gamecube and the ps2 version.
>>339305685
I don't remember that bit of lore, fascinating
>>339305718
That picture is retarded and you're equally retarded for having that saved.
>Giving Ashley a gun
Sheva AI in RE5 was bad enough. I'd hate to see what that AI would be like several years earlier.
>>339305557
>letting her have items would of only expanded the strategic element and deepen the item management system
The former is just not true. For the umpteenth time, the strategy comes from needing to keep Ashley alive as well as yourself (on top of shooting enemies and being able to progress). The game is objectively simpler if she is able to defend herself.
The item management is much less in depth than this, as the game doesn't exactly keep ammo from you. And that's only if they'd implement it the way you say, which they probably wouldn't.
>>339302331
The only good part is the village in the beginning lol
>>339305734
no he means the most intuitive version that is even more fun to play because it's like youre really aiming a gun at zoms
>playing through RE4 for the first time right now
I'm at the castle and currently have Red-9 with stock and the riot gun. Just got through that sewer with the invisible bug things.
Is paying for weapon upgrades worth it or have I fallen for a ruse?
>>339305886
It would of been like RE0, plus Sheva had commands you can do. I always hear people bitching about Sheva and then people act surprised when they didn't know you can command her to stay back or attack.
>>339305929
Then the strategy is fucking stupid and I hated it. There, argument over: You liked wasting time on Ashley, I didn't.
>>339305847
And you're gay
>>339306118
The money is literally for upgrading guns, how can it be a ruse?
>>339306118
You should be upgrading weapons by that point. Unless you're on easy or something you're going to have a hard time with stock weapons.
>>339304476
>I'm about 2/3rd's of the way through RE3 right now. You're making me want to power through the rest so bad, but god damn it, this one is so much longer than 2.
huh? you can finish RE3 in less time than it takes to finish a single scenario of 2.
>>339305847
It's not really some deep shit MatPat dug up, I think he's just poking fun at how Leon is dressed incredibly different than the rest of the people at the RPD
>>339306065
Except the game was designed to be played on a controller.
The Wii controls are fun, but they do somewhat break the game.
>>339306130
>There, argument over
The argument was actually over escort missions in general. Dislike Ashley all you want, but yourshit tastedoes not make a genre-accepted concept bad because you say so.
>>339306118
Stick with the Red9 and switch to the Striker whenever it becomes available.
>>339306137
No, I just prefer them to be drawn better. That's called having superior taste than you're baby's first horny drawing.
>>339306261
>>339306246
Alright, I was just worried because I sank a lot of shekels into the shotgun, blasting baddies like I was Ashley J. Williams, and then got to the castle and saw the vanilla Riot Gun already outclassed my standard shotgun.
But I figure that without those upgrades I never would have survived the village anyway so eh
>>339302854
Cogedlo my american friends.
It means "grab him"
>>339306262
Maybe it feels like it's way longer because I'm dying way more in this one. I'm at the part whenJill gets infected by Nemesisis that anywhere near the end?
>>339306280
Okay gotcha
>>339306393
I'm aware what the subject was about. It's clear you enjoyed something I didn't. Enjoy your useless NPC to add depth to your so called "strategy"
>>339306502
you're at like 75%. are you playing on the hard difficulty?
>>339306438
just make sure you have enough money to upgrade the attache case, there's a free rocket launcher later in the castle.
>>339302854
*Gross throat noises*
>>339306690
Yeah, I started on Easy because I was a scared little babby, but I noticed it handed every single obtainable thing in the game to you in the beginning, so I immediately switched to hard.
>>339306697
rad
and yea, the attache cases have been the first thing I've went for every time. The obsessive asshole in me that wants to MAKE SURE I always have room for stuff justifies the trade-off between inventory space and investment in firepower.
I played Sweet Home for NES before this, actually, because I heard it was a huge influence on the franchise. I can definitely see how the inventory management in particular carried over.
>>339302331
When you stop being a plebeian cucklord.
>>339306697
Free rocket launcher? When the hell were you supposed to get that?
>>339302331
When you played it in 2005 kid
>>339307415
>11 years ago
>I was 19
I still remember playing it in college, still have the laser art cell from my gamestop collectors edition.
>>339302331
village is best
>>339307018
Seems like you are enjoying it, I'm glad, Is one of my favorite games.
>>339307314
In the glass case full of ammo of the art gallery.
>>339308258
I'm loving it. I want to get the REmake for GC next but figured RE4 would ease me into the franchise. RE4 is also just something that I, personally, have wanted to play for a long time.
That fucking Gigante fight in the canyon (that is optional but nets a cool 30k gold). The fucking SWARM of evil priests in the crank room of the castle. It's been wild.
>>339309482
Yeah, RE4 is a good way to start with the franchise, even if the previous ones are so different, It was my first too.
Remake is fucking fantastic, the atmosphere, visuals and how all work like a giant puzzle is incredible, I hope you enjoy it too.
>>339302331
I hope you aren't being serious. I've beaten the game on gamecube 4 or 5 times, and I've just bought it again in the recent humble bundle.
I still adore it.
>>339310117
>I hope you aren't being serious.
Yeah I was just kidding.
>>339311467
English second language, sorry. I needed to understand before I continue to play RE4.
>>339309482
>figured RE4 would ease me into the franchise
Honestly, that's like playing Paper Mario to ease yourself into the Super Mario franchise. They're so drastically different in everything but character names.
