New Zelda thread because the old one got archived.
Is this the game we've been waiting for or is Aonuma still an incompetent developer?
The latter until proven otherwise
Why have these threads anyway we don't have any new information
>>339286726
Because I love you and I want to know your dreams and thoughts.
It'll be the latter. Aonuma is a hack outside of designing the Woodfall and Snowhead temples.
I'd LIKE for it to be great, but no doubt he'll keep the combat and dungeon design retardedly simple so his kids can play it.
>>339286795
My dreams are mostly about people I haven't had contact with in a while. I like to think it's a way to see each other once in a while without actually having to. I wonder if other people dream about me too. My thought are pretty much all about suicide because I don't enjoy anything but have to do everything.
The "leak" is shit too btw
Literally only been 1 good 3D Zelda, so it's safe to assume it's going to be shit
>>339287101
I liked the leak. We'll see what the game looks like. I hope your life improves.
>>339288560
OoT
MM
WW
TP
SS is shit.
>>339288943
MM
Rest are shit
>>339288720
>>339288943
>>339289029
OoT and MM. WW and TP had flaws that kept me from enjoying it like I enjoyed the others. SS is utter dogshit.
>>339289307
>OoT
Opinion discarded
>>339287068
>Japanese kids spend their entire youth in school.
>for some reason, they always need tutorials in their games and can't figure out complexities in dungeon and combat
I just don't get it.
>>339289606
Why is OoT bad? I'd respect your hot opinion if you told me why you think that.
>>339289607
And they always have easier versions of games as well.
>>339289029
You can be shit.
>>339291162
Is this PS1 game?
>>339291162
Looks like a calculator game
>>339286726
This.
Though I'm still learning towards incompetent because that VGA footage didn't exactly look polished, let alone good.
>>339288943
Great
>OoT
>MM
okay, has some great faults but the flaws really bring it down
>TP
>MM
shit
>SS
>>339291162
Holy shit lol
Makes me remember why I disliked WW's difficulty so much.
>>339287068
Aonuma doesn't even direct the games anymore.
He produces them now. Granted, he's still a hack producer as much as he was a hack director.
Regardless he'll still order the said director to dumb down the game while using his son as an excuse because he's just a yes-man who blindly follows Miyamoto's outdated practices and recommendations.
I really hope Fujibayashi isn't the director again.
>>339293568
The overall difficulty of WW, TP, and SS piss me off.
>>339285506
1) Maybe
2) Yes
>>339288092
You're right if you're referring to OoT being the only one competently made. I still love MM for how cleverly it tackled time/budget constraints even if the end product isn't always enjoyable. The rest aren't anything special.
>>339288290
Wait, there was a leak about the game?
Or are you talking about that stupid advertising video with the father and the daughter?
>>339294475
No.
This leak: http://pastebin.com/2fFL6yPa
>>339289793
because it's cool to hate on OoT nowadays
>>339293845
This.
The Minish Cap is a better game than the Oracles that Fujibayashi took over from Miyamoto, and Aonuma worked on that game so much he didn't have time for Twilight Princess.
Which tells me two things:
1. The Minish Cap was going to suck or get canceled without Aonuma to complete it.
2. Fujibayashi is a really bad director.
Skyward Sword only reinforces this.
>>339294643
that or we have an underage anon who played WW as a little kid
>>339294634
>http://pastebin.com/2fFL6yPa
I really hope this isn't the plot. Sounds boring and weebish as shit, even for a Zelda game.
Having a jackass Link would be breath of fresh air from all of the goody-too-shoes Links though.
>>339293845
If anything Aonuma doesn't listen to the guy enough. The wolf in TP was Aonuma's idea and Shig fought him on it, yet here we are with the most hyped game ever for the Gamecube being drug down by that furry shit.
>>339295120
I just want the gameplay that's described in the leak.
>>339294736
Anon, I played WW as a little kid and I'm 27 now. The game is over a dozen years old.
>>339294634
That gameplay desciption would be great even if its over simplified
>>339294634
>"leaked" onto 4chan
Into the trash
>>339294643
No, because it's a shit game that doesn't hold up
>>339295365
But we both know Aonuma wouldn't even come close to it.
>>339285506
It's too early to tell. But I'm betting on Aonuma being an incompetent producer.
God, I really wish Nintendo knew how we felt about Aonuma.
If this game ends up being ass, I really hope Aonuma has a chance of being relegated away from the decision-making roles. He's been leading this series' descent in quality for over a whole decade now.
>>339294723
I'm I reading your post wrong? Or did you really just say Minis was better than Oracles?
If the game is somehow good you people will have threads trying to locate who exactly made the game good and then start heralding that person as the next Koizumi.
>>339297069
>heralding Aonuma as the next Koizumi
Nah.
I really hope the director isn't Fujibayashi again. If it's an Aonuma+Fujibayashi combo yet again then the game is already fucked.
>>339296602
Minish blows both Oracles out of the water.
>>339297404
Minish Cap's gameplay is inferior in all aspects. Higher production quality. But it's casualized, minimized(no pun intended), and trivialized in every other aspect.
>>339297337
No I meant you guys would go through the interviews and find that one person who is barely given the spotlight yet made grand contributions and then see that person as the next Koizumi.
>>339297872
>made grand contributions
And this is bad why?
>>339298053
I didn't necessarily said it was bad
Just saying it's a likelihood
Aonuma does fine, he. production and the other higher ups just needs to be reigned in on some of the odder impulses instead of charging ahead and assuming it'll all fall into place.
The guy openly talks about the criticism received about the previous title, and what he does to confront that kind of stuff.
>>339298215
I really do feel for Aonuma. He does want to please the fans but he just doesn't know how to make a good game.
>>339297872
>made the grand contributions but not in the spotlight
...like Koizumi?
>>339298215
>and what he does to confront that kind of stuff.
Except he doesn't really confront it at all, he just ends up making it worse.
People have complained about:
>the lack of difficulty
>the poor pacing
>the constant handholding
>the excessive padding
since WW and it's only gotten worse and worse with each entry since.
The guy simply isn't a good director or producer.
>>339298546
Lack of difficulty (if you mean how much you die) is an irrelevant criticism for Zelda and hand holding has been an off-and-on problem that people only REALLY bitched about as recently as Skyward Sword.
>>339298883
How the fuck is difficulty irrelevant?
>>339298883
>that people only REALLY bitched about as recently as Skyward Sword.
How old are you?
Handholding has been a complaint as early as OoT. It only became absolutely demeaning in SS. SS was the breaking point when it came to handholding for people.
God i do hope he actually seen dark souls as well with skyrim. I hope he takes anor londo inspired hyrule castle with hidden passages and optional shit you could find like a quest with some random guard or impa.
>>339299650
If he's really getting inspiration from Zelda 1, it has to beat Dark Souls because Dark Souls is the perfect evolution of Zelda 1's game design and philosophy.
>>339295156
Did Shiggy really fight that?
>>339298215
>>339298546
On top of that, he's clearly terrible at management.
MM was completely directionless before Koizumi came on board, Wind Waker has some pretty badly patched up missing content, Twilight Princess was delayed and changed quite a lot, Skyward Sword took 5 YEARS because halfway through they decided to change the controls, and the new Zelda has taken even LONGER and we have less footage.
>>339300406
It still boggles my fucking mind that it took five years to make the garbage that Skyward Sword was.
>>339291162
fucking spot-on.
There is no puzzles in modern zelda games, only dumb pattern recognition for mongoloids.
>>339300832
fukken saved
>>339300832
>SS better than Wind Waker
>>339301318
The chart needs some tuning.
>>339301318
judge it relative to quality standard. It's actually worse.
>>339285506
>Aonuma still an incompetent developer?
>we will never have a non-Maelstrom thread ever again
>>339301764
What defense can you give Aonuma?
