ITT: Games that challenge your intellect
What games truly made you think and expanded your views of problem solving?
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>>339272669
I'd like to try this but isn't this still in its beta?
When will it be completed?
>>339272669
Motherfucking Factorio
Still waiting for the moon update tho
>>339272867
Just play it motherfucker shit's good
>>339272001
I fucking love Spacechem but fuck it becomes a huge mess later in.
Still one of the best puzzle game I ever played. Love how later on I came back to the first levels and cut the number of cycles by half or so. An awesome feeling
>>339272867
Play it if you want to feel german (it's a kinda good feeling). It is indeed in beta but the bulk of the game is still in. What lacks is mostly an interesting endgame and a more balanced PvE
>>339272001
What are some games where he gameplay in Spacechem is only a prominent mechanic within the base gameplay?
Think redstone in minecraft
Management games preferred
>>339273029
One word of advice, don't look up for solutions on Youtube ever, you'll only feel stupidier
Gittin Gud by yourself is the best feeling in the world, and SpaceChem is all about it
>>339272735
lol
I feel bad for saying it but Catherine made me sit and wonder for god chunks of time when I stuck on certain levels.
How is Kerbal Space Program? I don't give a shit about their work ethics I just want to know if it's a good game.
>>339273304
Dorf Fort
>>339273304
You just described Factorio
>First get wood from trees
>Build a kiln and burn the woord to extract coal
>Coal is a better fuel
>Git rocks
>Git a coal fueled extractor
>Discover the uses of automated pincers, even if wood/coal fueled
>Git iron and copper
>Discover electricity cables
>Circuitry
>A steam engine
>A steam engine that produces electircity to fuel the automated pincers to get coal and iron and wood from the land, and transport them in your newly assembled conveyors
>Assembling by hand is tedious but OH WAIT HERE'S AUTOMATIC ASSEMBLERS that can interact with the pincers, and new electric pincers been researched
>start to get ambitious now
>defile the land out of its resources, now fauna wants you dead
>But you can't stop progress, mother nature, I'm going to build defenses that shoot bullets and lasers and walls adn trains and cars and now a ROCKET TO SPACE
End up with something like this that sprawls continents
>>339273938
Can I do the equivalent of managing a plant and do stuff such as bonding the equivalent of chemicals in Dorf?
>>339274060
How is Factorio compared to dorf?
>>339274060
You forgot CONSTRUCTION AND LOGISTIC ROBOTS AND BLUEPRINTS AND DECONSTRUCTION BLUEPRINTS AND TRAINS
>>339274113
Not really akin, Factorio is about your character running around at first alone trying to survive and you end up making a gigantic war and resource extracting machine to get out of the planet
It's pretty good but not quite similar
>>339272001
Ace Attorney and 999/VLR.
Professor Layton is composed 90% of dumb puzzles that barely require logic at all. Dangitronpaul is way too easy and the game handholds you through any difficult parts.
Ace Attorney only started handholding on the latest game (DD) and even then it was still a wild ride. 999/VLR's story plot twists are obviously not difficult to pull at all because you don't need to do anything to trigger them (other than the right choices), but the actual "escape the room" segments are pretty interesting
Those two are probably the only vidyas that can legitimately expand someone's intellect
>>339274238
>Think I can't be more efficient
>Discover oil and gasoline
>4 time engine research
>Everything starts making sense
>Destroy everything I've built and start from scratch with new technology
>Everything is programmed and tuned to work at unison
This game tingles my dingle
It's engineering porn.
>>339274386
Might want to play Attorney Online then, it's Ace Attorney except for multiplayer, we have a general for it (/aog/)
>>339274238
>But why
BECAUSE I CAN THAT'S WHY
How do I get mouse support in dorf?
>>339274878
Ecology went too far.
But it's fucking awesome
>>339272326
This game is the TITS
The ambience, the bleeps, the sounds of the crumbling ship around you, the monitor flickering and the stupid jumpscare it gives you when you realized you fucked up`
But fuck doing anything without motion sensors
Or tfw your gatherer drone just broke down and no way to retrieve it
You're going to die from hunger in space
Alone
>>339275297
dfhack
>Get this game on a bundle i guess
>Install it out of curiosity
>Have one of the best times
Pretty good, kinda bullshit far enough but good nonetheless
>no new games get posted ever
guys please im in a drought
>>339275802
Uplink is better.
>>339274878
NIGGER
LANDFILL MOD
AND MAKE A SOLAR PANEL BLUEPRINT WITH WALKIN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE
>>339276345
Before the Echo is like DDR, but you juggle three seperate collections of notes and there's a fair bit of resource management
>>339276345
I assume you've played TIS-100 and Infinifactory? Human Resource Machine is pretty good, its like a Zachtronics take on C rather than Assembly. Its a lot easier than Zachtronics games though and much less open, there's usually just one optimal solution that the devs have figured out ahead of time.
>>339274352
>to get out of the planet
Nigger, fuck the planet, you're the scout from your civilization sent to DESTROY, COLONIZE AND MILK DRY the planet
Talos Principle is interesting and chill as fuck, though it isn't very challenging.
>>339274060
you sold me
i love you anon
>>339275458
If you actually played go, you would never post that picture because the stones on the board don't make any sense.
>>339272946
>moon update
fucking what
>>339272669
Whenever I reach a certain point the logistics completely overwhelm me
>>339276683
Getting the stars is pretty challenging though honestly most of them are just "read my mind" puzzles which suck.
>>339276774Why do you think I choose to post that picture?
I recently put like 40 hours into Infinifactory.
>new level
>see what I have to do
>mfw I know I'll be spending the next five hours on that level
>>339276801
Nigger, it aint that hard.
Get roboports covering your base, and set a logistic provider chest at the end of your common items like belts and inserters and poles and lights and ammo, and get a smart inserter with something like insert if there's <1k of this item in the network, then set your logistic request to keep you updated on those items, you'll never have to worry about running back and forth to retrieve them again.
>>339276916Because either you have no idea about go or you think it's clever bait, which it isn't.
>>339277236
I'm 8dan on tygem, fite me.
>>339276553
>>339276756
>>339274878
>>339274060
>I did not killed life, I just made a new kind of life to my liking
>Efficient
>Massive
>Unstoppable
>This planet is more alive than it ever was
>And now i'm coming for the stars
>>339276801
>Whenever I reach a certain point the logistics completely overwhelm me
I go for full bus, minimal robots. It's very space-consuming, though.
My only issue with Factorio is how defenses can be kind of tedious. My last game, I just went with pic related, though, and I didn't have any problems.
>>339272735
Wait a minute...
>>339277208
I'm stuck on the painting block puzzles, I hate them. I was having a great time with the portal puzzles and then the painting puzzles just ruined everything.
>>339272001
>>339272326
>>339272669
>>339276524
>Can we be more efficient?
>Yes
>THEN WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT
>AND WERE GOING TO
These games are what I like
Some people say you need to read the fuckload of wiki to play it decently, but I think that's total bullshit, the best part about this game is playing blind to figure out all the billion hidden mechanics by yourself, and how they all influence your gameplay, to the point where you are actually capable of predicting what at first seems like completely random and chaotic combat system.
>>339277756
I've heard it compared to dwarf fortress which seems appropriate. The bizarre and labyrinthine design is the main appeal, but a lot of people will need a wiki to appreciate it.
Hi.
>>339277606
The resistance campaign is pretty insane. I think I'll just skip it.
>>339278003
Looking forward to Obduction?
>>339278127
>>339274694
It's so good
>>339278089
The puzzles where you disassemble on one end of a portal and reassemble on the other are really fun, I'd recommend playing them at least.
Pic related, my horribly inefficient machine for the final portal puzzle, after spending hours working on it, I am unreasonably proud of the piece of shit.
I had a game called Kurushi as a kid, it was pretty nice
>>339278235
You might give La Mulana a try if you like puzzles that are inherently worked into the level design of a game. It's pretty fun, has good combat too.
>>339278305
Yeah, I beat the first subworld. It was pretty fun.
I tried the laser and the painting gimmicks and both were pretty awful.
>tfw the average player beats a level in 3000 cycles less than you
>>339278305
>symbols implied to be a language
>it's either the ABCs with different symbols or just decoration
Fucking triggered.
>>339278660
It's worth remembering that there are probably a fair number of people that just look up efficient solutions.
>>339272001
every zachtronics game t b h
>>339278305
I really want this game but I still haven't finished spacechem or TIS-100
>>339278864
Didn't know Minecraft challenges your intellect.
>>339278873
It's easier than both of those.
Maybe easier it's not the word, I'd say it has a better difficulty curve.
>>339278959
Zachary Barth did make Infiniminer but that was before he founded Zachtronics
I was talking about Spacechem, TIS-100 and Infinifactory. They're all puzzle games
>>339278873
Infinifactory has the best learning curve and is the most accessible of the three since you aren't near as limited on space. I'd say its probably the best one though Spacechem probably has more depth.
Seeing your solutions in action is just the fucking best feeling.
Clearly a game that doesn't let you through until you figured out actual ancient Aztec math system does not wait for dummies.
>>339279067
No, easier is the right word.
In Spacechem and Tis-100 you have limited space to solve your problem, but in Infinifactory you have pretty much as much room as you need to solve the problem you're given.
If you run out of room you can just move it up or down in 3D space, which you can't do in the other games since they're 2D
Kohctpyktop. Its literally electronic engineering.
>>339279343
Trying to minimize footprint makes it just as hard as the other two though and honestly being less limited on space makes it a lot less frustrating.
>>339272001
I just can't leave a puzzle without finding the absolute optimal solution. I've got like 100 hours on TIS-100 but haven't even cleared the first page of challenges.
>>339278959
You probably didn't know you can build fully functional circuits in mindcraft
Either
>>339279476
![img-7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sJfbKnt.jpg "img-7[1].jpg")
Gizmos and Gadgets is pretty much the perfect edutainment game, though its obviously targeted at a younger audience. I wonder what a game with the same gameplay but targeted at an older audience would be like.
>>339279476
I've cleared the whole first page except for a single puzzle. FUCK THE SEQUENCE SORTER.
>>339279440
footprint only counts horizontal space, not vertical
I 100%'d Infinifactory easily. But there's still 1 puzzle in Tis-100 I couldn't beat (sequence mode calculator), and I never even came close to beating Spacechem.
So I still stick by my claim that Infinifactory is easier
>It has a program challenge mode
This is actually pretty good
>>339279476
I understand this feeling. But you've got to just move on. You'll come back later after completing more and suddenly do something way more efficient
Don't be alarmed when you see so many people on the left end of the cycle count bell curve; they're just faggots who googled the solution
god-tier inventory management
>>339279912
Fuck off shill, Snapmap is way too limited to be of any use
>>339279783
just give up on bubble sorting, it's way too hard
instead just find the smallest number in the stack and shave it off on each pass. then repeat until the stack is empty
takes a long time though
>>339280032
Don't just post a game without naming it you gigantic fucking faggot.
>>339280092
I really thought the bubble sort would be the way to go. I kept trying to figure out how to do it, but I just couldn't make it work with only two stacks.
>>339279023
>DCS
>Complex, when you have shit like Baby Cliffs 3
It should specify
>>339280150
Neo Scavanger
What are some RPGs that require a lot of thought? The only thing that comes to mind is SMT but I'm sure there are better games
>>339280150
Its neo-scavenger, flavor of the month on RPG codex.
>finish TIS-100's page of puzzles
>feel like Einstein himself
>try TIS-NET
>holy fuck I am stupid
Jesus Christ I didn't realize it could be so much harder.
>>339280194
there's an identical puzzle in the tis-100 knockoff game Human Resource Machine that's funnily enough a lot easier to solve with bubblesort since that games gives you like a billion times more accessible memory to play with
tis-100 is better though, more puzzle variety
>>339279023
>X3 on the same level as Command: Air Naval Operations
One of these games is a fun space sim, the other requires extensive study of modern military history to even understand what's going on.
>>339280337
stuck on any in particular? maybe I could help
I beat every puzzle in that game except for one
>>339279124
you forgot the civil war robot card game that is even more retarded than hearthstone
>>339280374
Yeah, I've played HRM, it was decent fun but the godawful drawn comments/labels kinda ruined it, along with how confined everything is, very little room to experiment, just one right answer really.
>>339280491
I wouldn't even consider that shit a game. It's a full on sim.
Same thing with DCS.
>>339279023
>Victoria 2
>challenges your intellect
top kek
>>339280150
I think it's Neo Scavenger.
Good game.
>>339280647
>>339279476
God damn Zachtronics nailed the feel of always thinking you can do better
>>339272461
Yeah I agree with this post. It challenged my intellect as in why am I wasting my time playing this crap
What is the word to describe the kind of boner you get from the games in this thread?
>>339272669
your ability (or inability) to max out the production of every single part of your factory is an objective measurement of your intelligence
>>339281240
But the game is piss easy and my actual, officially tested IQ is a 103 average. if you can't max out, you must be borderline retarded
>>339281256
FS2 looks amazing. Like they added a whole Jagged Alliance meta game onto FS1. I cannot fucking wait.
>>339272669
Best part about this game is you can optimize almost everything, and they just give you more and more things to optimize
shit, you can even optimize the process of expanding your base itself with building blueprints and shit
being an engineer myself, this game is the fucking shit
>>339281451
Wow, I never even knew they were doing that or even doing a 2.
Count me the fuck in
>>339272001
I took organic chemistry 1 and 2 in college, and I found it more entertaining than spacechem
I don't understand how people can play this game
>>339281202
brainer
>>339281439
but how long did it take you to max out
>>339272001
>>339281724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ZnHgvSpK8
>>339281869
wait a minute that card...........................................................................
>>339281451
>tfw stuck forever in mission 41
>>339281202
An intellectual boner
>That moment when the solution finally clicks after spending so much time on a problem.
>>339281891
Feels more like X-Com Apocalypse than Jagged Alliance desu
Certainly not a bad thing tho
Do you guys prefer games with puzzles that are solved in a very specific way or puzzles that have a sandbox approach?
>>339283953
Sandbox by a mile.
>>339283953
Sandbox
Adds way more playtime and the chance to always come up with more optimal solutions
Anyone here played "Robot Odyssey"? Read this article about it and it sounded interesting, seems kinda like a Zachtronics game except made back in the 80s.
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/01/robot_odyssey_the_hardest_computer_game_of_all_time.html
>>339283953
Definitely sandbox.
>>339274694
Depressing as fuck game
>>339283953
Both can be enjoyable, Zachtronics' catalogue is great, Talos Principle is great, Myst is great. Whats frustrating is when a game feels like you should be able to do more but the game limits you to such a degree that you feel hamstrung, like in Human Resource Machine.
>>339283953
Sandbox of course, but imo the best feeling is when you solve the specific puzzle in a way it wasn't meant to be solved (ie by outsmarting the devs).
>>339274694
Honestly I didn't expect a sequel. But boy I'm glad.
>>339274694
Is the Gehenna DLC any good?
>>339284253
Really? I found it really kind of positive honestly. I really liked how much it was pushing against cynicism.
>>339272735
that card...
>>339283953
Sandbox, but I like to be guided to the answer in the beginning of the game to get a feel for the types of puzzles.
>>339284461
Yeah, its great and they only have a single one of those shitty time manipulation puzzles. Wait for a sale though, its pretty short unless you're into star hunting.
>>339280982
Paracucks really are deluded aren't they
Have any of you played pic related? I gave it a try but I found the tank controls infuriating.
>>339284461
What would you suggest then, enlightened one?
>>339283942
Must admit I haven't played Apocalypse, at this point it seems like I might as well just wait for the open source version to be finished.
>>339284865
It looks like Sokoban and lord knows the dev refuses to tell you anything more about it than the fact its a puzzle game. Is there anything more to it than that? Cause honestly English Country Tune gave me enough insanely hard 3D sokoban puzzles for one lifetime.
>>339281891
Oh man I loved Frozen Synapse
didn't knew about this
>>339283648
It never happens so often with me. It's usually a step by step process of trial and error ,slowly uncovering what can ,and will go wrong ,what works and later what's better..
But yeah when it does happen
>>339272669
THIS
FUCKING
TRIGGERS
ME
WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD/BUY IT !!!!
I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW !!!!
t. I do this shit for life
>>339285145
Steam
Durr
Runs on any pc and weighs as little as your dick so get it
>>339285035
That's pretty much it, it's certainly not a bad game, but it's definitely similar to sokoban
>>339285145
You can't figure out where to get it? And you do that shit for a living?
>>339284420
>quit college and play shitty puzzle games on your PC to delude yourself into thinking you're intelligent
Well, aren't you a little retard?
>>339285257
>You can't figure out where to get it? And you do that shit for a living?
I don't play games, I design construction projects in extreme environments. This is something I would adore.
>>339284495
The feeling of isolation, combined with the music made me feel like shit
Had to have some external background noise to drown out all of the atmosphere and focus exclusively on the puzzles to truly enjoy it.
>>339280491
>>339280894
>Command: Air Naval Operations
>hard
Jesus christ
>>339280647
What in the flying fuck are you talking about? No reasonable solution to any level (except maybe a speed solution to the last level) should even come close to running out of instructions or memory space. That's why HRM is pretty easy, all things considered.
>>339280491
We could fill a whole different infographic with just military sims. The point of that infographic was not to be all-inclusive, nor was it to show that all the games were on the same level. It's only to provide a taste of recommended games for people who like some element of complexity in video games.
>>339284865
>go for the lol so randumb premise
>say nothing about the game mechanics
>$30
No wonder it kind of bombed.
>>339285264
Still, you're on fucking /v/ and couldn't figure out to search Steam for a game. You're probably not smart enough for Factorio.
>>339285487
To me it felt more like a solemn atmosphere than a depressing one, i fucking loved it.
>>339272326
Duskers is amazing but I feel like half my keystrokes aren't recognized.
>>339286025
anon, you're misquoting and mixing different posts from different people and subjects
You are indeed kinda stupid, stupid idiot
>>339285829
I don't mean running out of space, I mean there's nothing to do, the devs have one intended solution for each puzzle and none of the puzzles get complex enough to make it feel like you've come up with a unique solution.
>>339272326
>>339275474
>>339286106
Is it hard?
>>339275474
>without motion sensors
They're often useless with all the yellow scans you get. Stealth is OP. Start from a room with only your scout done, stealth and open door, peek inside, and if you find an enemy you either return quickly or wait for it to move to the room you came from.
Also
>gatherer drone just broke down and no way to retrieve it
Swap one of your working drones' upgrades with its tow upgrade and haul ass, seriously there are tons of ways to recover from fuckups.I
was at 15 days when a typo in console wiped most of my drones. I had enough stuff to scrap and get my single drone and a disabled spare drone set up, as well as repairmy ship's remote power. Went on to 35 days before I accidentally destroyed the only generator in the ship I was exploring, locking all my drones in. I might have been able to recover from that too but a bug made me have to Alt+F4 and when I came back my progress had reset.
>>339286423
>I was at 15 days when a typo in console wiped most of my drones
Some day, in a hundreds of years, this will happen to someone and I won't be alive to laugh at his situation.
>>339286106
Strange it works fine in my shitty office pc
>Tfw panic typing commands to get the fuck out of a room
>tfw you keep mispelling the command
>VIDEO SIGNAL LOST
OH GOD NOT THAT DRONE
>>339273707
Kerbal is one of the best games ever imho.
>>339272001
The Witness
>>339286423
>>339286619
I survived 81 days with hardocre swapping, retrieving damaged drones and tons of luck with just a little bit of fuel on my ship to make it barely into another jump
Now that I tihnk about it, sounds a lot like driving my 2001 model car.
>>339286106
I thought it was just my laptop being slow but yeah, it seems the game won't read some letters of you type fast enough.
>>339286365
It's pretty tough, but I feel it's not difficult to learn from your mistakes. More than anything, is hard to stay playing cautiously and trying not to make a single mistake. Also it's very atmospheric.
I just hope the dev can polish it up to get rid of some minor issues. Otherwise it's playable just fine.
>>339286638
>not calling your bots CamBot, Gypsy, TomServo and Crow respectively.
>>339278003
Myst isn't challenging, half the puzzles are just finding out where the answer was written
Riven is good though
Probably modded minecraft
>>339285264
>he thinks education=intelligence
lol no
and how any uses have you got out of those chem classes other than notes and permission to move onto the next level and get closer to your degree?
spacechem is a better measure for how smart you are then most college courses; most secondary education just test how much information you can remember for about 2 weeks to a month before you can forget 90% of it and never reference the info again
hell Ill go a step further and say 90% of collage students are doing amphetamines to keep up with the work loads lowering their retention rate even further, there is a reson you see grown ass adults asking how to do there job on facebook
Did I make this needlessly complex? I'm on the 4th stage and I already feel the strain.
>>339286619
>>339286638
>send my shop to dock at airlock 2
>suddenly my generator drone and one that I was rescuing are sucked out into space
>airlock 2 is open without any stability warnings
>my ship hasn't moved
>look at console
>o a2
>skipped d for dock
But I managed to move on. This game is great for people who don't want to have to start over every time they make a mistake. Good balance of losses and recoverability.
>>339286423
Motion Sensor isn't failproof and that's fine otherwise it would solve every problem the game throws at you
I scan for the next rooms, move safely to the green ones, and scan again on it. When you encounter a yellow signature and you're not sure about it go back one room, and monitor the continuous green one with the doors open. Almost always the threat will come out to the green area and you will pick it up on the sensor, effectively telling you if it was safe in the end. Lure and trap or avoid now.
Or eject the motherfucker to space.
>>339286798
The Witness is pretty good but way overpriced and the fact that the puzzles built into the environment never actually develop any interesting mechanics was a huge disappointment. Also the audio logs are fucking unbearable, videos were alright though.
>>339287284
>spacechem is a better measure for how smart you are then most college courses;
>>339273707
Lots of fun. I played it way before any of the features aside from building and launching a rocket were implemented, but you may still need to look up on you to successfully launch into orbit.
I WAS SWEATING FUCKING BULLETS
>>339287605
I enjoyed FTL, but its all luck.
>>339287605
wtf im just listening to that song after years
>>339287603
The tutorials are no longer broken now
>>339287413
>implying
most secondary education is a test of how much information you an memorize in a short period of time, literally no out of the box thinking required
you get a few courses that require you to think, but you don't encounter those till you hit masters level classes, other then that math/science is pull values from this data/plug values into an equation, history is literary merization, and liberal arts are not real routes of study
>>339287802
>implying
>literally quoting word for word
>>339274113
>How is Factorio compared to dorf?
Not similar at all, the whole point is to make efficient production lines, there's no population of people doing their own things.
>>339287684
Fuck it is man
If you're talking about the evasion stat you obviously can't just rely on it, if you go into the final boss without a cloak or other preemptive measures you're fucked. The game is all about creating lot's of redundancies otherwise it's over man
>>339272001
>Carbon ring entirely composed of sp1 orbitals
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339287880
>he doesn't get implying implications
you just get of the reddit boat frindo?
>>339276395
Are there any games that teach me how to ACTUALLY be a l33t h4ck3r?
>>339272001
SpaceChem is a lot like writing Perl code. If you come back to an old solution, you'll have no idea how the fuck it works and would be better off just doing it from scratch than than trying to understand it.
>>339287358
>>339286929
>Clean up a section of the derelict
>Can't go further cause radiation cutting the path off mid
>There's an available docking bay at the other side of the ship
>Move the boarder to the other docking bay with my scanning drone, deploy it and look around a bit
>Nothing of interest, but an interface
>Without retrieving the scanner drone, go back to the first dock where my other 3 drones are to move them around the ship
>Open a1 docking bay again to board them
>A fucking alien entity swarm entered R1 of the boarder without me noticing it
>AND BROUGHT IT TO THE FACE OF MY 3 DRONES
>Signal lost
>Silence in space
AWW GOD DAMMIT
>Reset
I love the game though
>>339287341
Not a fan of the timing puzzles that just require you to make long chains of junctions with no other purpose than to create delays.
>>339288087
A computer
As autistic as the suggestion sounds, Minecraft when you have tools and a goal.
>>339288051
>he doesn't get implying implications
>this complete lack of self-awareness
>>339287947
Except you're entirely reliant on luck in order to create those redundancies and find weapons actually capable of getting through an enemy's shields. You can start a run of FTL with no method of winning it, you've already lost and you just don't know it yet. It's decent fun but it ended up being too RNG for my taste. Played it for 20 hours and never again, don't regret donating to the kickstarter though.
>>339288193
So, Factorio?
>>339277756
Nigga I played it blind and then tried again after reading some wiki pages, I still have no clue how to play the fucking thing. Fun while I later though.
>>339288193
Only mod I ever found even remotely "complex" (and that was because of shitty documentation and trial-and-error) was reactorcraft
Are there any actual indepth technology mods for that game?
ĐiệnWorlds
https://thetagames.itch.io/dienworlds
>>339288309
>Except you're entirely reliant on luck in order to create those redundancies and find weapons actually capable of getting through an enemy's shields
Oh yeah you do have a point there. That's a little frustrating. Specially when you start saving money to get a decent weapon and you keep running into shops that aren't selling shit
>>339288214
so I take that for a yes, lurk more before you start try to pretend you understand anything being said
hell the fact you don't even see how self awareness isn't even a factor and have to try to misdirect due to your lack of recognition of being able to understand the concept of implying impactions
go to reddit and stay there with the rest of the pseudo-intellectuals
>>339288479
>lurk more
>doesn't even understand the shit he's claiming others don't understand
Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one
My only regret is that I have but one upboat for you my good le sir! Us redditors, m i rite? XD!!!
>>339280032
FUCKING love this game!
>>339286365
It's great, it's a roguelike and it's not like Spacechem or Factorio engineering, but it's always a challenge because the game premise is:
You're on a derelict ship held together with hopes and dreams and some ducktape
Life in the known galaxy was misteriously wiped out, no bodies
No answers
No one to hear your S.O.S.
And you have to manage to hold together and keep looking for survival with shitty drones, faulty scanners, deteriorating systems and improvisation and luck
Lots of improvisation and luck with what you have at hand
So it's very great. Very atmospheric too.
The Witness.
It's non-stop puzzles building into mashup puzzles with two or more elements from previous puzzle formats.
There are no words. You learn as you go. It's AWESOME
>>339288769
>There are no words
If only, there are plenty of audio logs and they're all complete shit.
>>339287341
>have masters degree in electrical engineering
>can't make sense of this game
Guess that's my education down the drain.
I mean even though signal control wasn't exactly my focus, I still can approximately imagine what scheme you'd need to make to get those signals, but none of that UI makes a lick of sense to me.
Core Wars
>>339288676
>it still don't get it
I know you don't lurk more or leave, you have no familiarity with the board coulter or concepts so is it obvious you're fresh
also got any more non-sequiturs or add that only function as ad-hominem, or are you gonna say something of substance soon?
>>339288769
you truly DO need to play the game to realise why it took them so long to make, a true piece of art.
>>339286365
It's what happens when someone decides to add gameplay to the Alien movie radar/motion detector
>I can see it
>30 meters
>25meters
>15 meters holy shit it's moving fast
>10 meters!
>That can't be, that's inside this room!
>OH SHIT IT'S ON A VENT
>Drone lost
>>339277236
>which it isn't
except you responded to it if it was. you got baited.
>>339289128
>now using logical fallacies
Even reddit is too good for you. Go back to neogaf
>>339289035
I really, really, really want to get into these kinds of games. I think it's the next logical step in my search for truly interesting games.
>>339289310
>I have no response, I have lost, places rape my face
If you say so
>>339289423
>using reddit frog
Oh shit... I was right all along. I was just memeing at first, but now you've confirmed you literally are reddit-tier
Fucking hell. The state of /v/ nowadays
>>339287408
You won't always find green rooms you can use like that though, and it's really hard to gauge if you've waited enough to see if an enemy might have been in the neighboring room. But yeah, on bigger ships you tend to have room to play around.
>>339277756
this game is a fucking mess.And I loved every second of it.
>>339289550
>I don't know the origins of pepe
It's a very dirty meme that most people would be disgusted by if they knew what was associated with himthat isn't a bark texture
>citizens are calling me a fucking faggot because I don't provide them luxury lobster meals
>have to set up production of two types of alcohol
>have to ship one of them to another island where I catch lobsters and together they're produced into a component of luxury meal
>have to build underwater base to get algae
>need the production of a rare grain that only can be grown on a neutral island
>buy shares in that island and set up the production of grain
>ship algae to that island where with grain
>tie all of that into a logistic net of freighters
>ship all of the components back to main island where the final factory combines all of them into luxury meal
>to meet the high demand need at least two of those factories
>energy required to run all of those productions is insane
>electrical plants in sufficient quantity are too damaging to ecology making living conditions dangerous
>have to spend a fuckload of time and resources inventing new more ecological ways of producing energy
>finally meet the demands
>citizens level up into elitists and demand new even more exotic meals
>calling me a fucking faggot for not providing it
AN HOUR AGO YOU WERE HAPPY WITH JUST FISH AND WHISKY YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES
>>339289658
Patience and thinking things twice is the way to go
And sometimes you'll find yourself in scenarios where there's no safe method to follow. Maybe the exploration isn't worth it and it's time to gtfo, or maybe you take your chances and hope for the goldmine at the other side of the door
>>339288384
Nah, Reika is about the only one making complex tech mods, Reactorcraft, Rotarycraft, Electricraft and all that. Only other thing I can think of is Minechem.
>>339272326
Only thing I don't like is the random event where a room suddenly gets flooded with radiation without any warning, and can even happen on stable ships.
I had it happen twice over two missions that fucked me over. First time it suddenly blocked off the only usable airlock in a large room and I was forced to run all my drones through it, and didn't have the scrap to repair them afterwords. Second time happened on a stable ship when all my drones were in one room and killed them all before I could react.
The game can force dangerous plays on you, but the radiation leaks are some bullshit.
>>339290201
There's a TIS-100 mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfJs2Xk8SdM
>>339288375
>later
lasted*
>>339278003
Where can I get that, these days? Don't really wanna pay for it since none of the original creators will see jack
>>339278003
Fucking child's play compared to >>339279221
>>339288743
>roguelike
Please call it a roguelite. Otherwise you're
>misinforming
>gonna trigger roguelike spergs like me
>>339290814
Pirate em then. If you really want a physical copy, hunt for it at thrift stores or just buy it on ebay.
>>339290141
>it's time to gtfo
This is the hardest thing for me to learn, but I'm slipping up less now and starting to realize I should just let go. There's never a goldmine at the other side of the dooris what I tell myself.
>>339290978
I can't find anything with seeds is the thing.
>>339290458
Ah yes, rusted pipes. I've been lucky enough to not face your predicaments so far though.
>>339291356
disregard this I suck cocks
>>339286186
>he has a pic of Todd
Not like you're any better
>>339291354
>Arrive at a ship flooded with scraps and two fuel stations
>OH YES
>Realize that Gather deteriorated
>Didn't replace it
>Did not pay attention
>No other drone has it
>two minutes of looking at the screen
>Mild sobbing starts
>Explore the ship out of spite
>Keep finding scrap
>No way to retrieve it
You don't know the feel, man
>>339289413
>$40
My bad, didn't read the memo.It's worth a pirate anon. You're not stealing anyone considering that this indie game made serious dosh. Blow is not exactly poor.
It is a good game, that you should try and then see if you want to put money in it.
>>339290949
This.
>>339291857
I don't know this feel man.
>all drones trapped from the boarding vessel
>try blowing up a trap hoping for the off-chance that it may blue the door open
>destroys one drone and disables another that had like 50% shield
>keep banging my last drone against a door
>not even crying
>>339290949
but anon, every game that is either 2d, procedurally generated or has any variation of permadeath is a roguelike
>>339280292
roguelikes
>>339277535
>>339284602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
>>339294009
>roguelikes generally require a lot of thought
Nah family. Some of them surely do, but many are incredibly repetitive, and often it's just a matter of trying several times until you have figured out how to face a certain threat.
Games like StoneSoup or Pixeldungeon are nobrainers.
>>339277756
A tip to whoever might play this game:
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM 360 VERSION
IT'S FUCKED UP
PC VERSION REBALANCED IT AND MADE IT ACTUALLYFUNIt also has one of the most menacing villains of the last generation.
>>339294235
Try something like Sil or ADOM. Especially Sil.
>>339294273
Do you still need to wiki to stop you gimping yourself though?
>>339279023
>>339294404
I looked at wiki only for quests/monsters. Some of them were a bitch.
And unless you want to minmax you don't really need to go to wiki. The systems themselves are perfectly understandableif you played SaGa games, that is.
>>339280982
I'd say Vicky 2 is mildy intellectually challenging if you try to go for interesting, unusual, creative shit, like
>trying to prevent the American Civil War
>trying to win the Civil War as the Confederacy
>trying to turn [country] into [government/economy type that would never realistically happen]
>>339294289
I think I will give Sil a try, thanks anon. By the way, are there any good roguelikes or complex games for Android?
I know that it's much to ask, but I'm already grasping at straws. I yet have to find one that isn't incredibly repetitive.
Undertale
>>339295106
>By the way, are there any good roguelikes or complex games for Android?
I really can't think of any. Roguelikes generally do not port well to phone; the controls are too clunky.
I think the most complex game I play on mobile is FTL (it actually works well in mobile format).
Maybe someone else can better answer this question.
>>339285145
Steam. It has multiplayer coop too.
>>339295203
Some faggot baited with this already, try harder or learn to properly read asswipe.
