Why aren't you playing modded Oblivion?
>>339262840
Almost got me
haha
I would like to be, but my laptop is too shit
>>339262840
Alpha was pretty shitty, I wonder if this game is going to be good. Developers are based af tho
>>339262840
I know this isn´t oblivion but some middle age game but this looks just fantastic...
Because Oblivion is terrible
>>339262840
You reminded me of my old shop that was supposed to represent Stranded 2 remake (Robinson survival type of game before they got trendy, actual game have shit graphics)
>>339262840
Because I'm playing modded Morrowind
>>339262840
>no controller support
>controller mods are bad
>steam controller is bad
>mods requiring mods requiring mods
>mods breaking the game even when you do everything right
>mods that add extra "literally why" features that you need to disable after reading the 12 volume readme
mods were a mistake
>>339262840
>mfw this game plays worse than modded Oblivion
>>339264646
>any tes game
>controller
>skyrim has a mod that changes the entire worldspace into a tropical jungle
>oblivion doesn't
What the fuck?
>>339264795
skyrim is a console game with controller in mind
>>339264646
>using a controller for a first person game
get a load of this guy
>>339264795
>using a keyboard and mouse for oblivion
literally why
because Oblivion is garbage
arrows behave like rubber sticks and feel like garbage
the magic is just recolored garbage
the dungeons all look exactly the same copypasted garbage
According to Steam I own Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. I have never played any of them, and I don't even know when or why I bought them.
Which should I play first?
What mods should I use?
>>339264634
What mods? I'm about to jump back into Morrowind and I'venever modded it.
>>339264795
>not playing with a steering wheel
>>339264912
>using a keyboard and mouse for oblivion
literally why
>>339265047
I second this
>>339264993
that depends
if you like challenging old school RPGs then play morrowind
If you like casual action games with RPG system as advanced as the new DOOM, then play Skyrim
Just avoid Oblivion
>>339264993
Skyrim, not matter what the autists think the old games aged like total shit and play even worse than Skyrim which is already bad.
>>339264963
>the dungeons all look exactly the same copypasted garbage
i betch you like skyrim too.
>>339265065
Hey everybody, this idiot doesn't play with a dance pad!
>>339265047
MGSO, Epic Balmora, Visual Pack 3.0
>>339265221
does it fix the garbage gameplay that makes people with no nostalgia for it wonder what they're doing with their lives?
>>339265171
I don't give a fuck about any Bethesda shit.
How can you defend all dungeons looking like the exact same? This is so pretty bad droning.
>>339265369
:^)
>>339265408
how am i defending it dumbfuck?
>>339262840
tfw this isn't oblivion
>>339265490
i guess there's no mod for that huh.
>>339265605
:^)
Oblivion runs really badly.
>>339262840
>all of those jaggies
even FXAA would be an improvement
>>339262990
Closed beta is also incredibly shit. Maybe worse than alpha because more stuff, but way more broken stuff, including shit that worked in alpha.
I don't know what's going on with the devs, but I'm starting to think they've given up and started using the money to fund their krokodil addictions.
>>339265065
kek
>>339264481
I've seen the filename but
Isn't that fucking Farcry save for the obvious shopped HuD?
Pretty sure it's right after you clear the Japanese carrier ship, in the first level.
>>339265509
>trying to deflect it with game vs game banter
bethesdadrones are this pathetic, maybe they only play those shitty games so they don't know anything better
What's with all these Oblivion threads today, third one I see now and not to mention The other Morrowind threads too
>>339266217
Yes, detective.
I can make Oblivion pretty but I can't make it fun.
>>339265906
>cryengine
>anti aliasing
>>339266329
But why?
Out of all things they decided to pick something that pretty much everyone past 15 have played.
>>339265216
>not playing with a theremin
I didn't know /v/ was so full of casuals.
>>339264993
Oblivion and Morrowind are both huge pains in the ass to mod, and you HAVE to mod them to make them play nicely.
I'd just download Skyrim and spend 200 hours making the perfect waifu simulator.
>>339265221
Is there any animation improvements? the terrible graphics are fine, I just can't stand the stupid hit chance mechanic and the basic animations
>>339266930
>huge pain in the ass to mod
I dont know about Oblivion but I've modded Morrowind and Skyrim and both games are modded the exact same way
>>339267010
>I just can't stand the stupid hit chance mechanic
Not an issue if you build your character properly.
>>339266521
>they
You mean me? i was a joke image i made for stranged thread on 2ch eight years ago to have a giggle and to never post it again.
>why
because Farcy had similar tropical island setting and looked pretty much like stranded if it had good graphics
>>339267083
>manual dodge has 100% chance to work
>manual attack is variable
this makes sense to you?
even going Orc barbarian for like the most axe skill at level 1 I still miss 70% of my hits.
>>339267170
I guess I'm retarded, I thought that was official shit.I just don't know anymore Anon.
>>339267508
>he expects to be able to kill everything at level 1
Sorry man this isn't some casual baby hack n slash action game like skyrim
>>339262840
Because no mod can fix potatofaces
because it's a fucking cunt to install all the mods without fucking something up, and even if you do the game will probably run like shit.
>>339264728
It's like in alpha dude
>>339269151
Oh no we have the shill defense force in full swing, don't worry guys they'll fix it
https://youtu.be/saml3lkvsaM?t=9m11s
>these forests
>>339269537
Well, yes. It's an alpha.
>>339269537
Fixing it is kinda the point since it's in alpha, anon.
>>339267967
>Big strong orc at adult age
>Swings axe like a handicapped alcoholic
Yeah, great video game design, really challenging amiright?
>>339269616
>>339269627
It's a beta though
>>339269703
Dude, you need to imagine the shopkeeper dodging your swings lmao
>>339269741
Doesn't change the fact the game is still in development and being fixed. Honestly, I vastly prefer openly shitty gameplay videos that I already expect to be buggy because it's a fucking beta than the obviously staged "gameplay" preview Oblivion had.
>>339268870
>>339269545
>Those daises rendering in at a whopping 15ft distance
>Jiggies everywhere
>Walks through chickens like they have no hitbox
>Thinking any of this will be "fixed" at launch
The fact that they're showing you this is because it's out of it's early alpha and they're just going to add features onto this already finalized base. Enjoy your dead on arrival game I guess?
>>339270002
autism
>>339270002
>I guess?
Truly an opinion I can get behind anon.
Because I get a silky smooth 30fps at times with vanilla Oblivion when the memory leaks start kicking in, on a machine 8 years younger.
Besides no amound of modding will fix the horrible animations and character models
>>339270002
It's coming out in like, December, and that video is nearly three months old doe. I don't expect a "masterpiece GOTY 100/10 Slavs does it again" game regardless, so I'm hype.
>>339269703
It's called RPG
>>339269887
i know i am being trolled but i legitimately was imagining enemies dodging my swings and shit when i was playing morrowind all those years ago and had a blast
i can't be the only one?
I do. It's pretty good.
>>339270537
>RPG
What, you think saying the genre is gonna prove anything?
>It's 2016
>The current year
That's what you sound like.
>>339270812
I'm not trolling anyone, I'm kind of halfway referencing some absolute autist who defended Morrowind vehemntly. 500 reply thread, like 130 participants. Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
And no, it's fine to imagine they're dodging it. I mean, it's an RPG game after all, but this guy was saying that's how you have to excuse the fact every hit you swing will always miss someone at low levels.
>>339262840
It gets extremely unstable with lots of mods and crashes constantly.
>>339270979
>>339264814
Because Oblivion has mods that are actually good and not modders resources or absolute shit like Morrowind and Oblivion. Better Cities and Unique Landscapes alone are much better than Tropical Skyrim.
>>339264993
If you want an actual interesting RPG that remains challenging, play Oblivion. If you want the game to be laughably easy a few hours in play Morrowind or Skyrim.
>>339270980
Even with the bare minimum bugfix mods I still get crashes every hour or so. Lack of stability is really this game's biggest flaw.
>>339262990
What game?
>>339271784
Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
I tried recently, got it all nice looking with gigs of visual and gameplay overhauls
Then I booted it up andIt ran like shit. No multithreading really fucks the game.
>>339262840
Because I'm still finalizing my mod setup. Once that's done, I will, in fact, be playing modded Oblivion.
>>339271849
Oh right that one.
When is it coming out?
>>339265115
>>339265157
Oblivion has better quests.
>>339272062
Something like, December I think? So enjoy a vast canvas of white outside while you stroll through the greenest forests I've ever fucking seen in a game. >>339269545
>>339266930
Modding Oblivion isn't that bad. You can even use Mod Organizer if you run OBMM through it.
They delayed this on 2017 so expecting this game around 2018 lads.
>>339272636
Tbh I'm glad to see it's delayed because the beta and alpha was very loose. Like it clearly needed more work. It's a big project and I don't want any rushed crap.
>>339267967
It's fucking bullshit to hope rng doesn't fuck you over and get you killed with level one rats, I installed the 100% hit chance mod as soon as I could. call me casual all you want, if I wanted to worry about things like dodge chance, I'd play turn based or strategy game.
>>339270812
You're not the only one.
There are two kinds of autism extremes about RPG's.
There are autists that think only what is in the game is representative of the world (IE, Skyrim only has like 200 people). Most retards that play these games fall into this camp due to lack of imagination.
There are also people that think the actual game has no real bearing on what is going on at all (IE, people that pretend their character is a half-vampire who everyone loves and that they are the long-lost daughter of Jarl Balgruuf)
The best place to be when thinking about these games is in the middle.
For example, you know the map is only two miles wide, so you use your imagination to think "The distance is longer, the game is just showing the interesting parts of the trip.", you're probably not a sperg. Same goes for dodging and imagining that your character fucking talks.
Extrapolating from what you are shown to make it sensible is how someone should play these games.
>>339265605
in case you haven't noticed, none of the bethesda games have mods that fix the gameplay in their games.
It's so shit it just can't be fixed
>>339272926
If you have problems with rats then that means you're a complete retard who has no idea how to build a character properly
and a casual obviously
>>339272926
We're also talking about some adult with like a fucking dagger or some shit stabbing a giant ass rat constantly missing like a fucking retard. Beginning game is boring RNG drivel but if you can find a weapon for your skills you're at least lucky.
>>339264814
It does, dumbass.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45960/?
>>339273039
>someone replicated the webm to prove it wrong
wew
>>339270357
Except a minimal modding effort fixes the animations and character models.
Try again and don't use a toaster while complaining about performance.
>>339268870
Oblivion Character Overhaul.
I swear, /v/'s Oblivion criticisms are stuck in the past by like 10 years.
>>339269983
I'm using that and the faces look great.
On my second Oblivion playthrough right now, about 120 hours in, level 40 and recently started the main quest. The game is great I have to say.
Also, can't understand what issues people have with its combat. I'm playing a witch-hunter type character on 70% difficulty. The fights for example with necromancers were the most engaging. Dispelling their summons/silencing them with arrows/ sometimes casting spell reflect on myself(If I'm in a small room and can't evade),removing debuffs like burden so I can evade nukes and run from their zombies and so on, theres so much to do.
>the magic is just recolored garbage
How so? You mean like destruction spells? They actually really matter vs dremora/oblivion creatures. Without Shock spells they are very hard to kill(at least with my build). Other than that magic is unique. I especially love the weakness stacking ones. Seriously there's no limit to it, but I just don't have enough mana to follow though so I use an enchanted elemental bow.
Btw first time I played this was like in 2009 so I didn't remember much. Stuff like finding out that count Leyawiin actually has a blood covered secret interrogation chamber for argonian immigrants in his castle was amusing. This wasn't even a part of the quest, I just heard it from a beggar and found that secret entrance.
Because I'm waiting for my i5 6600k to come in the mail
>>339272962
You're right, but Skyrim's cities really should have been a bit bigger and more populated.
>>339273171
Wow what?
>Vanilla Daggerfall is still better than Modded Morrowind with two expansions
Woah
>>339264993
Start with Oblivion as a middle ground.
If you end up wanting more-complex RPG mechanics or an interesting world, go to Morrowind.
If you want better actually-responsive combat and decent world/character visuals, go to Skyrim.
If you get tired of the repetitive melee/magic combat (implying anybody uses archery) but somehow don't mind the other problems, play Fallout 3/NV (4 only if you're that thirsty for more).
In all cases though, you're gonna wanna start looking up mods after a good couple of hours to salvage what problems you have first.
>>339273201
The magic system of Oblivion is one of the laziest ones I've ever seen. The spells are like blue ball, bigger blue ball biggest blue ball, recolor for other elements.
Yeah you can combine effects for a crafted spell, doesn't change how unimaginative every skill is.
>>339264646
>installing mods you don't want or need
>being too dumb to learn something people have been doing for 10 years
Come on. Tesgeneral.com.
>>339270002
Don't tell me you see "jiggies" on a compressed youtube video. Also it's not called hitbox, it's called collision box, you tryhard faggot
>>339273201
Well if you have modded the combat somehow then it might not be so bad. With the level scaling, late game it turns into a fuckfest of damage sponges where you want everything to end as fast as possible because some enemies take literally like 50 hits to kill.
>>339262840
it will never run at 60FPS heavily modded, that's why, engine limitations
Hey guys, why aren't you playing Crysis?
>>339273047
That image is so retarded it hurts. Who would even make that?
>>339273491
Prove it wrong if it's so retarded then.
>>339265369
Depends
If you like modern Bethesda combat more, there's a mod that makes all hits connect
>Morrowind
What is this RNG cancer?
>Oblivion
Our god is a glorious god
>Skyrim
What the fuck is this bland action rpg trash
>>339273491
prove it wrong
>>339273429
Then they made more imaginative destruction spells for Skyrim, but made them too weak to be useful.
>>339273491
Casualwind Kiddies are the only people who I've ever seen get upset over these Muh X pics.
>>339273465
Incorrect.
>>339273486
pic related
>>339273592
>oblivion
>above anything
>even thinking its above arena
Gr8 B8 Nigg8
>>339273592
My nigga.
>>339273429
How is that shit any diffferent from Skyrim and Morrowind? Oblivion's magic system is still best out of every TES games because of the dedicated spellcasting key, and with a single mod (Supreme Magicka), you can get back all the old cool spell effect from Morrowind too.
>>339272926
Being casual has nothing to do with it.
It's more about lack of attention and refusing to read and understand how the game works.
There's a reason why Oblivion got that 100% hit , easy stamina and magicka.
Also why skyrim is barely a RPG, because internet is plagued by retarded fucks like you who refuse to play by very easy to understand rules so everybody has to pay for it.
>>339273728
>>339265115
>challenging old school RPGs
>morrowind
wew lad
>>339262840
I honestly cant tell if its a real pic or no
>>339273751
It's not worth arguing with them, someone who has spent his entire life with casual games with no challenge and zero depth will never know what a good game is
>>339273729
>but two other games also have a shitty magic system
So what? Do you want to say that Bethesda games are shit? I agree.
No amount of modding makes the combat not terribad.
>>339273878
>Morrowind isn't casual
LIKE POETRY
>>339264993
Don't listen to this faggot >>339271441
If you're patient and have a good imagination, Morrowind is the best game in the series, no doubt.
If you have a shitty imagination and just want to have the most solid experience possible right out of the gate, Skyrim is for you.
Oblivion is the middle ground, but its main pro is that it has by far the best mods, and its main con is that you need to install those mods for it to reach it's max potential (Only thing Oblivion is missing is a fucking face overhaul mod so people stop looking so fucking retarded.). I also personally think early game combat in Oblivion is the best in the series. Fighting in the arena or with a random highwayman feels like a major life or death struggle.
Meanwhile Morrowind only really needs a graphics overhaul, and Skyrim doesn't really have anything that's particularly required.
>>339273298
I agree. You can just think to yourself that you're only seeing characters that matter while all the peasants have faded into the background where your character can't even see them, but the fact of the matter is this is a huge problem with setting the mood and the tone for a CITY.
Some things are excusable like not all NPC's having unique dialogue or the map not being as big as Norway, but the cities fucking sucked.
>>339274127
Ironic shit posting is still shit posting, you need to be 18 to post here.
>>339274068
>(Only thing Oblivion is missing is a fucking face overhaul mod so people stop looking so fucking retarded.)
Oblivion Character Overhaul.
>>339273962
Every bethesda game is shit without mods. This is a fact.
The reason why I think Oblivion is the best one (when modded) is because most of its flaws can be fixed, while Morrowind and Skyrim's flaws are baseline connected to the engine and therefore unfixable without a complete rewrite.
>>339274068
>(Only thing Oblivion is missing is a fucking face overhaul mod so people stop looking so fucking retarded
But that is fixed. Oblivion Character Overhaul.
It's a really old mod too, it came out around the time of Skyrim's release even.
>>339273751
>>339273962
>this fucking elitist circlejerk
fucking autism senpai. Morrowind's not a hard game, the questing is just a fucking chore in the ass. Now quest markers are literally "follow the pointy arrow" but holy fuck at least I don't have to write down directions because I'm bad at remembering them. Both systems have their plusses desu familia
>>339273402
Skyrims combat is by far the worst. I have no idea why people meme it. It's literally just oblivion with features removed and none added
>muh dual wielding
The new system makes it so that 50% of all equipment combinations don't let you block, and thus all combat encounters are leveled so that you can win everything by simply mashing lmb.
Magic was gimped to the point where in combat you can do nothing but heal yourself and do damage. Gone are attribute/Stat affecting spells and fighting magical creatures with them and defending yourself with them.
It's literally just smash lmb until you win. Literally. No exaggeration. It's 0/10. A total 0. It couldn't be worse if it tried to be.
>>339273546
>>339273607
>world building
>attention to detail
>more than a just couple interesting locations
>vivec
>spell crafting
>varied landmass packed with interesting stories or objects to find
Meh, I could go on, but you guys are shit posters so there really is no reason to let alone reply.
>>339273627
You're mistaking being upset with being surprised. You have to be willfully retarded to make it.
>>339274127
Are you alright mate? You might want to take a break from /v/ if you serious think Morrowind wasn't easier than Oblivion. If you want a real Elder Scrolls game, you should try Daggerfall. Because of the sprite work it doesn't look ugly as fuck, despite its age. Unlike Morrowind, which is skidmark coloured.
>>339274405
>>world building
There with mods with the same, if not better, quality.
>>attention to detail
There with mods with the same, if not better, quality.
>>more than a just couple interesting locations
There with mods with the same, if not better, quality.
>>vivec
Sheogorath.
>>spell crafting
There with mods with the same, if not better, quality.
>>varied landmass packed with interesting stories or objects to find
There with mods with the same, if not better, quality.
>that last bitching sentence
Literally the same as "ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN MY REASONING??"
Morrowfedoras are a joke.
>>339274593
LOL
>B-but I-it's better with mods !!!
kek
>>339274328
>>339274331
Oblivion character overhaul fucking blows though, it's only a band-aid that doesn't really fix anything.
>>339274348
The spells are the exact fucking same despite the elements, and I already described how they're lazy, making them big blue ball, small blue ball, huge blue ball, they're mechanically the same thing.
The game has like 5 spells, except you have 10 upgraded versions of them, plus recolor for different elements, and they're not even fucking well done in the first place. What about creating a fire wall, summoning a meteor or something, have some creativity for fucks sake.
>>339274353
>at least I don't have to write down directions because I'm bad at remembering them
This is butt fucking retarded. Next time you want to go to a taco bell and you're far out of town don't touch your gps m8
>>339274353
We never talked about Morrowind difficulty.
Because yes the game literally hold your hand in the beginning , Caius even give you gold and suggest you take lessons. Just this and you don't even need it.
Also you can access your journal and simply read the direction.
If a NPC tell you the way you can just open the map and memorize it.
This is really not difficult UNLESS you have brain problem or you're just stupid; or more likely lazy as fuck. so don't complain about the fucking shinny arrow and that brainless go there fast travel shit.
>>339274405
You described oblivion perfectly, but I don't recognize the name vivec
>>339274405
>Cuckbride shitting on Dag/Arena's existing lore
>Ugly brown everywhere
>Shitty quests
>Meme Hermaphrodite Mary Sue
>Oblivion had spell crafting too
>Ugly brown everywhere
>"Meh"
Also Oblivion had Shivering Isles, putting it leagues above Morrowind when it comes to locations. You're trying to fit in too hard, did you see some anti-Oblivion screenshots on Reddit?
>>339274685
Not only is it better with mods, certain aspects are better in vanilla like the quests, world size and variety, and the main story.
Not only that, but by refusing to consider how mods improve the game's quality is admitting that you're too stupid to figure out how to mod properly.
So congratulations, you got yourself caught.
>>339274873
lol how retarded can one be
We're comparing vanilla games and it's obvious that morrowind is better
Then you come up with your "but muh mods make it better" arguments
Well If I mod the fuck out of morrowind it's going to destroy your shitty game and every other RPG
>>339274873
Holy fuck, this entire thread has put Morrowfags on suicide watch.
So the general consensus is that morrowind and oblivion are the better games, and Skyrim is pretty bad?
Going by that information, are you still going to buy the next game in the series?
>>339274353
>npc gives you directions
>open up your map and see what he's talking about
>listen to him, paying attention to your surroundings, staying on roads, and looking for landmarks
Morrowind is the only one that actually feels like a fucking ADVENTURE.
Oblivion and Skyrim is just a lot of jogging in straight lines from A to B.
>>339262840
The last time i did. I role played as a sneaky cum thief.
Basically i sneak in into npc's houses and rape them in their sleep.
Did it for 3 days, then i kinda had an epiphany on what i was doing and i stopped.
>>339275031
Mod the fuck out of morrowind then.
You won't though, you won't even show me a screenshot of a good load order. Try again another time.
>>339275063
I'm going to pirate it to see how bad things have become, just like with Skyrim.
>>339274378
I like the new system because it allows for more diverse spell possibilities. Some spells have different charging times, some of them require two hands, some are projectiles, others fire in a constant stream, and the "charge and release" system gives you more control than Oblivion's magic button did.
Not being able to block if you have something besides a shield in your left hand is a problem, I'll admit, but there's always the Dual Wield Parrying mod.
What do you lads think about Morrowind rebirth?
It looks like I should be running it alone since it adds a lot of stuff.
But does it add enough stuff?
>>339274378
Tbh I'm torn on Skyrim. Like, like all Bethesda games it takes a step forward and three back. The interface, questing and the game makes it feel so unfriendly towards roleplaying and more about just beating up enemies and doing easy "follow the arrow" questing. Really, Oblivion had easy quests but at least they were interesting for the most part, but it's really just gone down south in that department and become more about quantity over quality. Fallout 4's the epitome of this, where you just wander, pick up shit, level up, aaaand there we go; this is what Bethesda's about. The world and exploring it, and that's it. They can't make quests worth a damn.
Anywho back to Skyrim. The one hand for an action thing is a bit fun and I feel it has way more potential, like Bethesda always does things, than they did with it. It's very restrictive and silly. Oblivion had a dedicated button to spells, but in Skyrim you can't even block while doing spells or anything. Dunno. I had fun with Skyrim, Morrowind and Oblivion and they're very different games. Morrowind's clearly the more complicated one, but do any of the games really play like an RPG where you pick dialogue choices and get to roleplay whatever beyond rolling a character?
>>339274743
I'm not good with directions in games.
>>339274749
>you're stupid and lazy
>so don't complain about the fast travel and shinny arrow
k
>>339275089
Oblivion felt the most like an adventure to me. So holy shit, it's almost like it's subjective.
>>339265369
The fix will be released the same time you pull that dick of mediocrity of out your ass.
I'll never mod oblivion as good as i did the first time so the experience will always be dissapointing
>>339273592
If there was a lore and vanilla friendly way to remove quest pointers, add transportation methods, and having text based dialogues and journals, no one would claim morrowind is better than oblivion. The lack of qol give it the best atmosphere and it's his greatest selling point, but the game is literally same areas and same dialogues for the whole game.
>>339275089
>Listen out for vague clues on your next direction
>Fun
Oblivion offers the player much more freedom to role play, you know, the main purpose of a roleplaying game. If you wanted an adventure, why not buy a nintendo game.
>>339275089
>Morrowind's teeny weeny little world that creates the illusion of being large with fog "feels like an adventure"
>>339275063
It depends on your interests.
Morrowind is if you want RPG mechanics that matter and crazier book-lore so long as you don't mind the RNG.
Skyrim is if you want just straight-action and can master everything simultaneous, albeit being the most casual.
Oblivion is if you want something between the two and the most NPC-lively towns, so long as you don't mind the ugly faces and damage-sponges.
>>339275163
What is that? Is it like OpenMW?
>>339275265
Go to tesgeneral.com, a guy made a pastebin guide of how to mod it with proper instructions.
>>339275148
Seriously are you trolling or are you this retarded because I don't even know anymore
But anyway here's my 200 mods
>>339274593
So you need mods and expansions to be up to par? kek
>>339274837
I should have prefaced most of those with "well done"
>>339274853
>>339274853
>Cuckbride shitting on Dag/Arena's existing lore
Woah, this change as time goes on, what a weird concept that has never happened before
>Shitty quests
Funny considering the only good or even memorable quest were the brotherhood of steel and the first 5 minutes where you had to witness that horror show of a face on the emperor muh dreams
>Meme Hermaphrodite Mary Sue
Talk shit get hit
>Oblivion had spell crafting too
Watered down.
>Ugly brown everywhere
You're on a volcano that rains ash, you fucking moron.
>oblvion had shivering isles
The only exceptionally good thing to come from it.
>>339274853
>Cuckbride shitting on Dag/Arena's existing lore
As one of the only people on /v/ who has played arena and daggerfall, how so?
>Ugly brown everywhere
try playing for more than 5 minutes
>Shitty quests
please try and elaborate so I can tell you how wrong you are
>Meme Hermaphrodite Mary Sue
I think you should seek help, you may be having some kind of aneurysm
>Oblivion had spell crafting too
Too bad it was a hollow shell of morrowinds crafting system
>>339275393
I keep seeing comparisons between the games like this in every thread, and every time I have to remind people that most of the problems people list with each game can be fixed fully by mods.
Except for Skyrim's shit, you can't fix the awful quests and shit writing with any mods.
>>339275401
>What is that? Is it like OpenMW?
Nah just a big mod that fools around with animations, cities, leveled lists.
Basically it rebalances a lot of items and monsters and misplaces many things, so you cant run much with it.
>>339275431
I'm in your camp bro, but you need to stop bending over for these retards.
They are peasants that are to stubborn to give, you're just opening yourself up to bullshit like a fool.
>>339275431
Lots of good mods in there. Meteor is cool.
>>339274741
>The game has like 5 spells
This has to be either a troll or probably never played oblivion before.
What about all the conjuration spells, mysticism spells, disintigrate armor, weapons, Command humanoid,chameleon, charm,etc.
Also for example summoning a Clannfear is very different from summoning a Daedroth which is technically stronger but slow as fuck so isn't very effective vs ranged NPC mages that do hit and run tactics.
>>339275306
If Morrowind is only good because it lacked certain quality-of-life improvements, it's not actually good.
Vanilla: Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim
Modded lightly: Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim
Modded heavily: Morrowind > Oblivion = Skyrim
I can't wait for the day when Morrowvirgins finally turn 30 and off themselves. Let your shit game go or grow up. If you can't do that, then fuck off.
>>339275632
>BOW DOWN BEFORE ME PEASANTS! s-stop laughing!
>>339275431
>tfw there is no good big ass mod pack with 200+ mods
>instead have to go through dead links and outdated guides to find all the good shit
>You can still trigger people on 4chan
Actually curious, those of you seriously arguing these issues, how old are you and when did you first start lurking? Seriously what the fuck.
>>339275431
>VtMB
>Serious Sam
>Gothic
>STALKER
>Mount&Blade
You are a very cool person
>>339275712
You would be surprised how much it actually adds to a game. And it's not like it's a bad game, oblivion just did all the rest better, it's too outdated and bare.
>>339275587
The Empire was grassland, like you'd expect. Fertile plains, the perfect conditions for an Empire.
>>339264961
>using a keyboard and mouse for oblivion
>literally why
To take advantage of the OP stealth archery techniques. I was deadly AF with a bow, and I'm not good at aiming with a stick.
>>339275758
(You)
>>339275929
Morrowind fans are notoriously pissy when you point out the flaws in their game. Not even being hostile all the time either, just mention one thing like the bad combat and you get hordes of those autists sperging out and defending such a terribly outdated system.
>>339275612
My only beef with Oblivion's mods is that half of what I install ends up being broken some time ago, so I've been hesitant to continue along.
What's your preferred world-overhaul, combat-overhaul, magic/arsenal additions and creature mods that still work? Any selectable race mods too?
Oblivion had the best quests, even the kill 3 rats quests has it's own storyline and unique atmosphere, morrowind is just go there and kill 3 rats, skyrim is do this generic dungeon 10 times until you finish the questline and get the words of power.
>>339264993
Morrowind if you want an actual RPG.
Skyrim if you want instant-gratification and gamer fastfood.
>>339276050
>Morrowind fans are notoriously pissy when you point out the flaws in their game.
>shitposts literally non-stop, every chance he gets, about the game
>expects people to not get tired of your shit
Are you retarded?
Literally every thread we get the same shitposting, the same shitty .webms, the same discussions and you're actually expecting people to not be mad or pretty much insane at this point
fucking kill yourself
>>339275835
Morrowind is the best of the 3 unmodded and modded. Oblivion's only saving grace was its expansions, quests, and music. Skyrim's was its world and music.
Morrowind does all 3 as good, if not better, though I will say Shivering Isles is better than Bloodmoon. However, Tribunal shits on KotN and Dawnguard and Bloodmoon shits on Dragonborn.
It takes a minimum of 5 mods for me to play Oblivion, among them bug fixes and scaling fixes. It takes at least 15 for me to play Skyrim, whereas I can play Morrowind vanilla and still like it. Shit, I could play it without BM/Tribunal and still like it, probably.
Don't claim "Nostalgiafag", because Oblivion was my first. Skyrim my second, and Morrowind my third. Morrowind is the best. The combat le miss xd is a meme used only by shitposters, nobody who's actually played the game would argue that you miss constantly. The lack of quest markers isn't even an argument, in fact the addition of quest markers is an argument.
>>339276105
Maskar's and Oscuro's Oblivion Overhauls
Unique Landscapes, Oblivion Reloaded, Open Cities or Better Cities
Vanilla Combat Enhanced and Supreme Magicka
Those are the baseline essentials. There are more on the tesgeneral.com guides.
>>339276194
See what I mean? So easily triggered by the facts and it dismisses them as shitposting. So pathetic.
>>339276265
>Oblivion Reloaded
Never worked for me.
Always crashes
>>339275835
You have alot of hate for this game for some reason.
All we wanted to do is share our love about the game with you.
But Morrowind is Morrowind I really love that game and just one time tried to convince you it's a good game but I always forgot where I am when I talk about stuff like this I really like.
Like killing floor 2 , you try to talk about something and you will witness really retarded stuff.
This place is the worst.
>>339274353
>at least I don't have to write down directions because I'm bad at remembering them
that this poor fool never found the journal makes me legitimately sad.
>>339276398
He has a point. We try to have a thread about how much we like the game, then people post the same 6 webms about the "Horrible combat", and the entire thread devolves into shitposting because neo-/v/ likes to shit up comfy threads. Same with NV threads. Same with Deus Ex threads.
>>339276403
Really? Maybe it's an operating system problem. I have Win7 and it works amazingly for me.
>>339262840
As a hobby game dev I am fucking pissed they are wasting a decent engine, god tier world design and art on below average gameplay and story. Even fucking skyrim gameplay made more sense. They probably never had any concept of their gameplay to begin with and just threw together a bunch of crap because they thought it's going to be cool.
>>339276214
morrowind could afford to have no quality of life mechanics because it was mostly a pc game for a niche market. There's no way a mainstream game being console or pc would ever have things like no quest markers because any popular game is plagued by retards. It's the same with wow, everyone bitches about vanilla but then everyone had a quest marker addon and other qol on Nostalrius. It sucks but we will probably never see a rpg all about discovery and exploration ever again.
>>339276506
How is that different than the rest of /v/? It's all the same shit and the same shitposting 24/7. It's not your "neo-/v/" bogeyman, this place has always been like this.
>>339276002
and?
>modded Oblivion > modded Morrowind > modded Skyrim
Morrowind mods are for making the game not look like literal dog shit.
Skyrim mods are for scenery porn and actual porn.
Oblivion mods are for fixing broken gameplay so you can play the best TES writing.
>>339262840
Because I'm playing unmodded Morrowind.
>>339276660
True, I forget why I come here. /vr/ is infinitely better
>>339276643
Fair point, but Morrowind wasn't really for a niche market. It sold very well, Beth would have gone bankrupt if the game had sold badly.
>>339276398
the combat is shit, noone even denies that anymore.
The point here is that you feel the need to post the same shit every thread, along with the same "actualmorrowindcombat.webm" every as well.
It's gotten so bad that people don't even bother posting the full .webm anymore, but instead just post the thumbnail of it.
It's shitposting and that's a fact, if you actually want to discuss why the combat is bad, then stop trying to look like a retarded child having a spaz attack.
Although, I don't see why you would even try to discuss it when everyone knows it's objectively bad.
All bethesda games have shit combat, did anyone manage to fix that? This pretty much turned into "my shit is better than your shit"
>>339266930
The only mods I used for Morrowind were graphical and map mods (like better heads, better bodies, better cities), and it was really easy.
You're right about Oblivion, though... but it's worth it.
>>339276686
Nothing, I just hear Casualwind kids whining about "Muh Jungles" all the time so I felt like reminding them. I go through this every week, but Morrowind fans grew up with that game and won't bother with Dag, so why bother?
>>339262840
>no fantasy and lore
>shitty realistic swordfight gameplay that looks like shit in first person
>generic world that is all the same
>game of thrones meme tier writing but without the unique lore
>lead developer is literally a goobergator
you have to be really retarded to think this crap as a modded oblivion.
>>339276850
I bothered with Dag. It's great, though I prefer Oblivion.
>>339276907
>actual history is now meme tier
I've bitten the bait!
>mfw casual skyrim babies are assblasted again because morrowind is too hard for them to comprehend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLFHqmUH_4
>>339275564
>broterhood of steel quests
wut
>>339262840
btw the only mod needed for oblivion is Nehrim
it's a full convertion that fixes most things that were shit about oblivion, literally like a different game
>>339276790
you're right i expressed myself wrongly, i meant that pc gaming at the time was more niche compared to console gaming and players didn't expect any handholding, then everything changed when TES went full mainstream with the console-friendly release. Now a game being for pc or console mostly caters to the same audience i.e. shitters.
>>339277075
I haven't thought about that at all, but Nehrim comes with leveling and skill overhauls along with that new continent and quests, right?
So you can pretty much just install Nehrim and play the '''vanilla''' game with those modifications, right
>>339276920
Oblivion is better than Morrowind anyway, I respect your decision.
>>339276265
This. 10/10 list.
>>339275564
>brotherhood of steel
AYY LMAO
OPINION DISREGARDED
>>339277029
Good. Now choke on it.
>>339272926
I'm not gonna call you casual. I'm wondering if you're unfamiliar with the doctrines of RPG character development, though.
They give you enough skill points at the beginning to be OK at something, be it melee, missile, or magic. Don't spread them around at the start-- trust me, by game's end your PC will be OP at everything anyway.
>>339276660
>this place has always been like this
How to spot a newfag 101. I get that the whole "/v/ was always shit" is a pretty prevalent meme, but its not actually the case.
>>339272293
>>339272062
Delayed to 2017, and for good reason
>>339273708
What's wrong with that ice cream
>>339264634
>Finally decide to try Morrowind with the recommendations it gets
>Play for a while, everything going well
>Get one quest to go to a cave kill something
>Ask for directions in a town and find it
>Go into the cave and kill everything inside, no sign of the big enemy it wants me to kill
Spent an hour looking around, wondering if I have the right place before looking online to find out it just didn't spawn because of good old Bethesda quality control
And that's where I dropped Morrowind. If I have to make an argument for quest markers, it's that they're the best way to know if you've ran into another bug. That's my only complaint.
>>339277286
exactly, just one install and you got everything you need
>>339277704
That's why I prefer Oblivion and even Skyrim for that reason sometimes. You can disable quest markers and then just enable them if you think you've ran into a bug. Looking shit up online before you're sure about what the problem is is totally immersion breaking.
>>339277596
I'm watching their beta livestream now.
It looks better and much farther along than I expected.
2017 seems somewhat doable but it's crazy ambitious project so I don't know.
>>339273486
That tree stump will always be a dead giveaway for skyrim.
I can't play oblivion anymore because of the animations
Morrowind is fine even though it has even stiffer animations because they're in sync with environment detail but in Oblivion the terrain is so much more detailed relative to the quality of the animations so shit's really jarring
>tfw want to play a huge, detailed sandbox RPG but already put thousands of hours into Morrowind and Oblivion which are literally the only games in the genre
>>339276643
>morrowind could afford to have no quality of life mechanics because it was mostly a pc game for a niche market.
they dumbed it down from daggerfall to approach a wider audience
>>339270831
>he is so retarded in the current year he isnt aware of the difference in ARPG and RPG
>>339279063
there's literally no difference idiot
>>339276265
Thanks m8, will give it a try as soon as I can figure out my current dilemma with Oblivion (game never starts after the PC menu, Steam says it's running).
>>339278241
Yeah, it's pretty ambitious. Let's hope they sprinkle some eastern-european magic on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW6625hw_w&index=2&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9K98RzbHI&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPysOFeSg8E&index=9&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA
>>339276643
Morrowind was literally designed for the Xbox, same as oblivion amd skyrim
Difference is that the average gamer wasn't as retarded back then. But still, Morrowind was dumbed down and limited by shit hardware and an even shittier engine
>>339279278
there is one, let me show you an example:
Witcher 3 is a RPG
Dark Souls is an ARPG
That is because DS features action and consequently fun. However witcher is a snoozefest that couldn't be further away from action in any form or shape and much closer to a visual novel.
>>339280084
No, Witcher 3 is an arpg too. So are all TES games
>>339280040
>Morrowind was literally designed for the Xbox
nigga what
>>339280040
lel morrowind was released for pc only years before the xbox was even announced and then ported
get your facts right kiddo
>>339280173
>Witcher 3 ARPG
>ARPG
>Action
>witcher
good one
bet you just love spamming the same boring skill from the very beginning to the end of your visual novel against AI that is worse than Pong
>>339280550
It's literally an action role playing game and no matter how mad you get none of that will change
>>339262990
>>339265980
>>339271849
>>339272062
>>339272293
>>339279594
Do you guys even trying?
>>339280550
The combat is literally action oriented you fucking retard.
>>339281029
?
>>339262840
>Why aren't you playing modded Oblivion?
I don't want to spend hours torrenting and installing the game + expansions, searching for good mods, downloading them, installing them, then troubleshooting them which will inevitably lead to me uninstalling and reinstalling the game.
>>339280550
In an action RPG you directly control your guy, as opposed to the real time or turn based strategy combat that is seen in CRPGs.
>>339276265
Oblivion Reloaded looks a little intimidating. I want to use it to increase my FOV without fucking up my character's arms, but I'm not really interested in any graphical upgrades. Can I just leave everything else disabled if I just want the FOV fix?
>>339282598
yes turn everything off in the .ini and set your FOV there as well.
>>339262840
I am! It's comfy. Bethesda brand fantasy life and hiking simulator. Right now I'm playing a druid, with a camping mod so I can sleep out in the wilderness.
>>339273449
>implying
>not knowing how to read
>calling me dumb
Come on. Elementaryschool.com
>>339283081
You can't figure out how to mod oblivion. You are dumb.
>>339262840
because all the good mods for that game got taken down years ago
>>339283081
Just read a guide on modding, stud.
why the fuck has Oblivion and Morrowind been so shilled the last 3 days? is there some HD remaster coming out soon?
>>339282762
Good to know. Thanks.
>>339283441
I'm pretty sure the entire TES series was put together with duct tape, magic and child sacrifice. There's no way in hell they could optimize or update the games without breaking even more than was already broken at release.
>>339283680
And they would dumb down both games for the Skyim tards.
But I'm already am
>>339265065
>not playing with DK bongos
