>sole purpose is to be a healcuck
>can only single target heal
What were they thinking?
>>339246775
you're supposed to heal lucio
She does a ton of healing, though. Not to mention her damage boost is fucking awesome. You don't have to sit there just holding left click on the same guy until he's full. You're supposed to play smart.Yeah, I know. They didn't consider their fanbase.
I main Mercy, literally haven't touched another hero.
You have to use your mobility to be where the heals need to be and damage boost where the damage needs to be. With a good team against another good team it gets super frantic and I love it.
Clutch revives also make me rock hard.
>tfw tanks fight over you
Truely the greatest feel.
>>339246775
I love her looks but Lucio is faaar more useful, like ridiculously so.
Its kind of boring just healing people and trying to give damage buffs to the right people at the right time, and if you do well you'll probably never even use your Q
I'd prefer if she had something more to her.
>tfw damage boost bastion behind Reinhardt sheild
>>339247169
>>339246775
I would also prefer if artists would stop drawing her with these hidous faces I mean holy shit.
>>339247035
>when you get Play of the game with mercy
heal order and priority too hard for overwatch casuals?
>>339247241
Even better
>When the single guy who a readied ult calls for a revive and his POTG starts with your rez
>>339246930
>2016
>holding left click
there's a toggle option in the settings
>>339247353
I prefer holding left. Toggle makes it feel like my beam is "stuck" to another player and can cause a slight delay when I'm bouncing heals between 3 people on the payload.
>>339247241
more like
>when you pressed Q
>>339246775
>he doesn't know about damage boost
How do I get tank-senpai to notice me?
>>339247452
That's what every play of the game is though, unless it's Bastion, Torbjorn, or Widowmaker.
>Play of the Game as Mercy
>Just getting a Triple Ressurection
Bad Mercy Players
>Play of the Game as Mercy
>Ressurecting and actually helping out your team getting kills with your Pistol while everyone is focused on the newly revived allies
Good Mercy Players
>Try to go double support comp
>Other support switches off
>>339247604
at least they require some sort of positioning and thought, unless you play reaper, reaper is fucking gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMJ-s4T16M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2yyudOiRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlQy4u94x0
uh... Overcucks?
>>339246775
>being healer
>without me they would have lost ages ago
>not a single person votes for me
every fucking time
>>339247875
what do the votes even do?
>>339247241
Which never happens
>>339247915
Ego boosts.
>>339247241
I won a game for our team and they all shit themselves with a Q I did at the very end of a payload when they were pretty much guaranteed to win.It was the greatest moment of my life.
>>339247915
They make your epeen grow
>mfw Roadhog is repulsive as fuck
>but oh so effective, its my pick whenever I want to "carry" the team
>do pretty damn well, did a 5 man in 10 seconds once on point, expect POTG
>POTG is lucio literally standing next to me and watching as I kill 5 people while he doing nothing, not even shooting at the guys
I don't understand anymore...
>>339248026
>rape enemy team as hanzo
>killing people left and right
>one-shot a rip-tire seconds away from destroying our team
>potg is me killing 2 people with my ult, damaging someone around the corner with a ricochet and shooting reinhardts shield
Fuck you too game. I'm pretty sure I had ults bigger than that one in the fucking game.
>Rocket Barrage ready
>>339248182Semen Barrage ready
Lucio + Mercy, if you're not running this combo you're not doing support right. Lucio does the heavy lifting on group healing, Mercy:
Heals any critical targets that are taking more damage than lucio's aura can deal with.
If nobody needs healing, you're damage boosting the nearest competent damage dealer. 30% damage boost is SAVAGE. A boosted widowmaker will do 195 damage body shots, which means literally anything else will kill the vast majority of targets, even widow's unscoped full-auto spray.
Pistol is useful in a few edge cases like you need to turret bust at long range, but in almost every situation if you have a not-fucking-awful damage, you'll contribute more by boosting them.
...but zipping in and ressing 3+ and turning the tide of a team fight is what you're really there for.
>still no blood knight
Why live?
>>339247915
They encourage the matchmaking system to group you with that person more often.
>>339248026
You probably wouldn't have gotten your 5 man if you didn't have Lucio healing you at full blast, respect your healers.
>>339247503
Spend the entire game healing him even when he's at full health and the rest of your team are dying around you.
They'll appreciate your steadfast dedication.
>>339248415
>>Spend the entire game healing him even when he's at full health and the rest of your team are dying around you.
>>339247934
Near the end of the game + 3 or larger res + objective kill on someone like bastion or 76 ulting + your team wins = guaranteed PotG
All of my mercy PotGs have had me doing zero healing and blasting away at people.
Alternativley, 4 ressing is almost a guaranteed PotG if you survive.
>>339248568
Which never happens
>it's a mercy lucio combo episode
>>339248415
More like they'll leave the game lobby because jesus fuck learn how to Mercy. If they're being aggressive and taking a bunch of damage to heal (and charge your ult), then sure, but a tank would rather pop back up after dying than having some submissive slut running around and being useless.
>>339248284
So if I vote for myself, I encourage the matchmaking system to group me with myself?
>>339247169
Lucio is steadily better. But mercy's revive can turn a game around. Getting 3-4 people up when the enemy just unloaded everything to kill them is extremely demoralizing.
>>339248316
Didn't even E it up
Neglible point when he wouldn't have gotten anything done without me.
>>339246775
so switch targets when required
its called gameplay
>>339248568
I rezzed my entire team which actually won the game and did not get potg. I was heartbroken. Even the other team was sad.
>>339248836
"turn the game" not really, it can SAVE your teams ass if they failed spectacularly.
I'd prefer an ulti that I can use even if we are not failing spectacularly.
Otherwise its just a time saver for 1-2 guys.
>>339246775
does her heal speed need a buff then? or should the heal beam have some drag time so you tap it on someone and it continues for a few seconds so you can heal someone else?
>>339247604
I've gotten POTG with soldier and i wasn't using Q and then people just said i was spraying and praying, like pay attention I'm burst firing. be greatful it wasn't a Q because i hate myself when i get POTG with soldier Q
>>339246859
this
>entire game based around stupid ults
>not a moba though i swear
>entire post-launch marketing fueled by corny PLAY OF THE GAME snips
>devs hire private marketing firm to outsource artists for officially endorsed porn art to astroturf as fan art
>>339247915
more votes give xp bonus. if you get an epic it boost the xp given more. everything after epic is just for bragging rights and to unlock sprays
I want Mercy's heal beam to be like Zarya's.
>>339249078
Is that from the SnK movie?
>>339248712
I just described three situations where I got PotG as mercy.
The one where I killed the ulting bastion after a 3 res on the final stretch on Kings Row defense. Hell, during that PotG my awful bastion teammate was being salty as fuck that I wasn't healbotting his stupid ass in human form taking potshots at the attacking tank mode bastion like he's 76.
The 76 one was simple enough, Gibraltar defense on the final stretch under the walkway, pharah ults, I zip in and 3-res, 76 pops his ult and I get shutdown credit because he was low, standing still, and I chained headshots on him.
The 4-res was after a rheinhardt ult that caught everyone alive on dorado courtyard defense next to the payload. He bludgeons them all to death, our shitty sniper FINALLY connects with a headshot on the rhein for once in the game, I zip in and res everyone and we shut them down for the remaining minute or so.
>>339247667
Yah about this.
I had 2 rezz + double kill and a 3 rezz got picked over that as POTG.
The system is shit still.
>play Mercy
>entire team is scattered and refuses to group up
>decide to just find the person closest to the objective and heal/damage boost them
>it's a D.Va trying to kill a McRee at long range
>Its a "team refuses to get behing Reinhardt shield and instead walks one by one into the enemy's turrets" episode
Are the people playing this game literally retarded? It doesnt take a mastermind to figure out that you can safetly get rid of any toblerones and Bastions if the team gets behind the shield
>>339249439
>Level 32
>Playing with people of a similar level
>Retards still falling for retarded traps
This is not a good sign
>>339249397
To be fair its actually pretty fun flying around everyone on the map healing them all up, especially if there's a Pharrah you can tail to jump between fights.
That ability to move around easy while continuously healing puts her above Lucio for me
>>339249439
I don't normally get mad but I had that happening on Hanamura and it was driving me insane.
The team was just feeding into the left side of B where I'm pretty sure Rein can't even go. Our Rein was spamming group up and I was trying to help him but it was fruitless. Do people thinking going left is some sick flanking manoeuvre that will totally catch the enemy off guard?
>>339249639
Not when they're all running around in fucking tunnels and aren't even in sight of each other.
>>339249439
The first time I saw Reinhardt's shield I immediately knew what its deal was. Stand behind it to not die.
It seemed cool as fuck so i started playing him. The number of teammates who don't immediately understand that the huge fucking shield isn't just for him and him alone just fucking baffles me. I usually give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that maybe they don't know you can shoot through it, which is why they get in front of it,but nobody ever listens to a single damn thing from their teammates in this game. Only salt from their enemies
>>339249694
Considering most other times everyone just recreates the charge of the light brigade and gets slaughtered its not much of a surprise, even Rein's shield goes down fast if the enemy team have dug in
>>339249439
I literally stopped playing rhein in pugs because of this kind of shit.
>walking forward with the payload
>blocking sniper fire and a random torb turret.
>76 runs through the shield
>Dies
>Genji runs through shield.
>Reflects a sniper shot
>Dies to the next
>Decide to take cover and let the shield regen
>76 returns
>Shields up, payload's moving.
>Hangs out behind shield, keeps running out beside it taking shots at the sniper.
>Dies to repeated sniper body shots.
Do they not realize they can shoot THROUGH the shield? It's frustrating as fuck to be alive but unable to push because all my damage are fucking idiots.
>>339249637
level only indicates time played, nothing else.
>>339249285
Which all never happen
>>339249694
It does happen though. It's rare but fun when ti does.
>>339249812
This. I'm lv35 and regularly get grouped with everything from high 40s to low teens, and level is no guarantee of skill. Some of the best players I've ever run into were only high teens.
>>339249812
Exactly, you would expect that many hours, they would've learned a thing or two.
>>339249439
As much as i love playing Reinhardt, going full tank with pubs is torture.
How come people who refuse to play anything but offensive heroes are still so bad with them?
>>339249935
You have too much faith in people
You're also not considering how much experience with FPS they've had outside of Overwatch. Someone completely new to the genre starts off at the same exact level as someone who's been a pro gamer since CS1.4
>Can only single target heal
What, so healing everybody nearby from 0 (zero) HP back to FULL HP is not a multi target heal?
>>339246775
can counter ults bu reviving whole team
>What were they thinking?
That she can revive the whole team, full health, with one button press so maybe she shouldn't also be able to heal everyone at the same time.
It's called balance.
>>339250228
Lucio's Q is better
>>339250043
I almost never play shooters. I only played TF1, old CoD games, Halo trilogy. Most games I play are strategy or RTT games that don't require skill, but thinking.
Even in my first hour of the game, I learned who can do what in most situations. I'm assuming people have more experience than I do in FPSs, but that is ridiculous.
>>339250228
Not to mention it doesn't take all that long to charge it up
>>339247875
Must be you're shit at mercy
I get voted and complimented all the time for little to no reason for the sole fact that nobody plays healer, sometimes it feels embarrassing because I didn't carry a game and get 5+ votes
I've gotten so used to seeing bastion, hanzo, genji, torb, and reaper getting potg that when someone else gets it I do a double take. I forget other characters exist
>Let her heal and shoot at the same time
>Like the other two healers
Boom, fixed.
>>339249439
Because people are impatient and just want to go shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot.
I also don't get why people run into a base lone wolf with the whole team still alive, and you're team running back. I get contesting the point when times short, but when there is still like 3 mins left, wait for your fucking team to get back.
I'm level 12 and getting matched with level 40+ nerds. Does the game matchmake based on level or some hidden MMR?
It's frustrating as fuck, I feel like I can't learn any new heroes since the quality of opposition has rocketed up.
>>339246775
I'm fine with single target heal. What I want to know is at what point is better to shoot as her than to buff someone else.
>>339250603
more wins = more xp
more levels = just more skins. the rest is up to you
>>339250603
this
and it only gets worse.
i wish i could start other heroes such as zarya and such but at level 25+ everyone is a fucking nerd that tried their hardest so its near impossible
>>339250550
That would be great
>left click to shoot pistol
>right click to select ally to apply stream to
>use her missing ability to toggle between heal and buff
>mfw Mercy is the first character i've ever wanted torape and get pregnant
somethings off with this one boys
>>339250603
Yes, there is a MMR stat. You're getting placed with higher level dudes because you aren't terrible.
>>339250746
It's only natural
>>339250746
Sounds like everything is as intended
>>339246859
>>339247169
Lucio isn't that great. Most of the time his heals are just topping people off in non-lethal situations. Mercy actually keeps people alive.
>>339250746
I feel like this is why 90% of people play her over lucio
>tfw had quads with almost every character in the open beta, all achiveos unlocked
>now everyone knows how to counter all the ults
>best I have is tripple kills
>>339250724
Not only would it make her more enjoyable to play, people wouldn't have to change their style if they like how it works now. They don't have to shoot if they don't want to, but people that want to contribute could.
>>339250798
Actually its the opposite. You get placed with people who are better than you if you suck in order to even out team imbalance.
>>339250852
In lethal situations, he can press E and heal EVERYONE on his team within range for 40hp/s. Mercy can only heal one single person for 50hp/s
>>339250943
Well, maybe. I don't know how it actually works but there is definitely something doing match making there.
>>339250946
You can't count on cooldowns to be up in every situation. Or even most.
>>339250603
>>339250714
Just do it anyway?
>>339251019
That cooldown is up 1/4 of the time.
>>339251052
And 100% of the time he's still not healing the priority target for as much as Mercy who is buffing damage on the down time rather than passively healing for no reason at all.
>>339251046
you wont learn much getting stomped the fuck out by people that main nothing but 1 character
>>339250868
I need to see this person play another character, they'd be like a lost puppy.
>>339251052
It's down after someone gets attacked once. You're throwing the dice every time you use it. Not dependable.
>>339247604
I got POTG as Torbjörn while respawning :^)
>>339250714
Are you afraid to suck for a couple games? Once you know the maps and have a general idea for how a class should be played, it only takes a couple games before you start getting the hang of different heroes.
If you play mercy, try and follow around someone who's playing the hero for a game and watch what they do. I sucked ass at Zarya, so I followed one around and damage buffed them for most of the game, realized I was being too aggressive and you need to shield teammates more than you mix it up yourself until you're full charge, then you just shit all over everyone. Then it only took three games as her before I was at a position where I would be comfortable picking her if the comp required it.
If you get locked into a single hero, you're gonna get fucked if the other team comp is bad for you.
>>339251132
All he has to do to heal the priority target is be within 30 meters of them and have line of sight
>>339251262
For less healing.
>Mercy players
>>339247452
You mean
>when you hold Triangle
>>339251210
Sounds more like an issue with the player not knowing when to use a skill than with the skill itself
Mercy is for cuckolds, Lucio is for black bulls. The choice is yours.
>>339251146
Yeah every game is not going to go amazing for you, but it will eventually get more and more easier. It's not like you have to win every single game.
The alternative is saying fuck it and not learning a new character. Now that certainly isn't going to help you learn much, is it?
>>339249439
>It's a "Everybody died 10 seconds apart, but instead of grouping back up after respawning, everyone runs as quickly as they can to the enemy point and begins a never-ending cycle of conga-line chain deaths" episode.
I try my damnedest to remedy the problem by waiting for another person to respawn after I do. Sometimes I get lucky and it's a Soldier I can fly to as he sprints and we eventually catch up to the tank, allowing for a somewhat passable offensive until the others respawn and catch up.
Most of the time I end up futility mashing the "Group up!" command and nobody actually bothers to try and group up.
>>339251335
Which is a fair tradeoff in one situation for superiority in most others
>>339250946
That constant 50 hp/s with no cooldown can really come in handy in certain situations, though; teammates can pull through almost suicidal attacks with a healing beam up their ass. And if you find a decent player to damage boost you can make them into an absolute beast.
>>339251348
10/10 bait, now please never come to overwatch threads ever again.
>>339251361
The "get gud" argument is a weak one. If one character is easier to use and has better results then it's a better hero, period. There's a reason Mercy is the most successful support class in the game.
>>339251132
Its like you haven't even played lucio
Keeping your teams HP up frees up a lot of time from
>where da hp pack
>hp pack cooldown
>lemme walk back to that hp pack
Mercy's downtime?
1 person gets some meager buff but considering its DOWNTIME so action is not really happening, its not that useful at all
Lucio's downtime?
Massive movement speed boost to everyone, increasing survivability for all.
And finally the ultimate, Lucio's is a shield for everyone - perfectly useable for clutch defense or offense
Mercy's q?
>well if I completely failed at keeping people alive and everyone is fucking dead than I may get to undo my mistake once
I like the character, but thats just weak as shit.
>>339251546
Mercy is only better if the team is reasonably organized
Pub mercy is atrocious
>>339247241
>rocket barrage into a graviton for 5 kills
>mercy revives them all
>junkrat tire kills them again
my literal sides, good job dumb healslut
>>339251397
or worse still, you get three people who group up with the tank, and the rest continue feeding the other team's ults by charging in the side routes solo, so when you do push, you just get obliterated by multiple ults.
Honestly I didn't think being only able to heal would actually be such a hard and sometimes intense task, but it feels like you're right in their doing the heavy lifting as you would be with other characters. I just hate how defenseless I can feel
>her gun is good anon, people underestimate it!
Okay. I get it. It's not bad. However if someone focuses you down properly and knows how to play you aren't going to live. If you're shitting on people with her gun they honestly are not very good. The tradeoff of heals/strong damage buff and rez is her being relative weak offensively.
>>339251546
>if a character is easier to use then it's a better hero
If a character has a higher skill ceiling then it's a better hero. It allows a competent player to do more without being dragged down by the pitfalls of being accessible to the lowest common denominator.
>>339251710
I get at least 4 kills every game with mercy, no idea how people actually die to that pistol, you'd have to be mentally handicapped, cannot count how many times I've killed dmg dealers in 1v1s with it.
>>339251546
>The "get gud" argument is a weak one.
Go back to writing for polygon, it's a perfectly sound argument.
>>339251730
lol no, higher skill ceiling just means it takes more skill to use. But Lucio does not take more skill, in any case. Running around trying to use your accelerated healing on people to keep them alive is never going to be as dependable as Mercy.
>>339247934
I got one last night for rezzing exactly one person and then shooting down a Mei that was about to casually headshot a frozen Zarya.
>someone wants you dead
>teammates don't want to protect you
>die
>teammates whine
>>339246775
heal cuck doesnt make sense in the context you're using it. Heal slut is what you mean. Stop posting your fucking first /v/ memes you little cunt. And fuck off back to /r/overwatch
>>339251146
It's just quick plays man who cares. Those are the games you want to play for getting better at stuff, then you know what you're good at for when ranked matchmaking comes out. And you obviously want to be good at as much as possible.
>>339251710
This is kind of how I feel when I kill people with Winston. That gun does fucking 3 damage per minute. How am I killing you lel
>>339251710
Because you are.
Mercy is simply far too situational
dmg buff is situational, you have to choose between healing and it
your only defensive move is situational and relies entirely on teammates being away - but in sight of you
your ultimate is horribly situational and has no potency as all unless your team is failing
And you get a shitty peashooter thats good to finish off low hp classes if they play badly or lol, didn't notice you - which is rare considering you are the first target of any battle.
>>339251815
I don't think there's a damage falloff on it, and IIRC headshots are 40hp each, so you can burn someone down pretty fast with sustained, accurate fire at range.
It absolutely has more punch than dva's out-of-mech blaster.
IT'S TIME
>>339251815
Killing tanks as Mercy is pretty special. I dodged a charging Reinhardt while hitting him with a bunch of headshots. He raised his shield and I walked up and pistol whipped him to death.
>>339251692
People don't realize that lone wolf shit only works if you're not fucking bad, only on a certain maps, and only if you can actually catch people off guard. Not just when you facecheck the base on fucking Lijang tower or Anubis or something.
>>339251878
>dependable as mercy
>granted proximity heal over time
so it definitely happens
>1/5 chance that the 200 hps glass-healer heals you
You should check whats "dependable" means.
>want to buy overwatch
>$70 aud
>>339251956
Lucio is far more situational. His normal heal isnt enough to keep anyone alive and his survival abilities are all on cooldowns. He's only good on king of the hill maps or when another main healer is present.
>>339252042
>The national minimum wage is currently $17.29 per hour or $656.90 per 38 hour week (before tax).
pls go
>>339247241
>get play of the game as mercy
>killed 3 full tanks in a row with her shitty pistol
>that feel
>>339251978
>Sagittarius
>melee
>Cancer and Scorpio
>not melee
You got me.
>>339252080
I swear you don't know the meaning of the words you are using.
>tfw there's always some fag who's bad at Mercy barging in and trying to convince everyone to suck Lucio's black cock
Good luck trying to keep that tank alive for more than 3 seconds if he gets focused.
Good luck surviving for more than 5 seconds if you get focused and don't have anywhere to fly off to.
Lmao, Lucio shitters, not even once.
>>339251956
>And you get a shitty peashooter
Don't underestimate Mercy's pistol. It's accurate as fuck and kill's pretty efficiently.
>>339251345
as a girl i can appreciate this
>>339252147
>this meme
Just because you finish off 2-4 guys in a match doesnt mean its good, a competent ANYONE will own the shit out of you.
>>339252121
I explained myself pretty well. If you don't have an argument to fall back on that's ok.
>>339252170
It's intended for girl(male)s
>>339252031
A good Lucio will keep the team's health topped up and can use his ultimate to gain a big advantage in teamfights.
A good Mercy is better at keeping one vital dude alive against massive firepower, and her ultimate is a mulligan for a lost teamfight.
A bad Lucio is better than a bad Mercy but a great Mercy shits all over a great Lucio.
>>339252102
whats the point of having a higher minimum wage if everything costs more?
the biggest "healcucks" in WoW, that being priests, didn't get a legit AOE heal until like never?? what the fuck do priests use to AOE heal? prayer of mending is barely an AOE and holy nova is shit tier.
they were never really given AOE heals AFAIK because their raw throughput is too insane, also the damage mitigation/buffing.
not having AOE heals isn't an argument for anything.
>>339251956
My question is though, what situation is she really better than Lucio? I mean, yes, team Resurrection is awesome, clutch as fuck, but once you're playing against a team who isn't shit, they aren't going to ignore you as Mercy.
Even in pro matches they get mowed down eventually. And even pro match has both a mercy and lucio on one team, rather than just one or the other. That's more or less a death sentence comp. in pubs though
Post them bitches
>>339252170
Show us a digital photograph of your breasts, or kindly show yourself out the fucking door.
>>339252271
>$60 AUD vs $70 AUD
>US minimum wage is $7.25
>AUS minimum wage is $17.29
Okay.
>>339252196
Her major vulnerability is her lack of health and limited mobility. The weapon itself is actually pretty good. Sustained, super accurate fire from range will fuck people up.
any of you guys able to recommend me a decent mouse? maybe a kb too.
>>339252115
>playing against a team with 3 tanks
You must have a really shitty MMR to be playing with actual retards
>>339252196
But that's exactly what it means. 4 kills is pretty good for a healer. And the point is it wards off flankers and gankers if you catch them first.
>>339246775
>sole purpose is to be a healcuck
Nah you're just a pathological cuck
I'm level fucking 30 and I've only gotten 2 fucking Legenary skins so far, and all the money I've gotten is only 715.
Meanwhile my friend had fucking 7 by level 22
Fuck this game, jesus
>>339252213
You don't know the meaning of the word situational or dependable anon, you may think you explained yourself well but you literally have no idea what you are saying.
Lucios heal and boosts are not situational - THEY ARE GOOD IN ALL SITUATIONS.
Mercy's on the other hand is only good in given situations - SO IT IS SITUATIONAL.
Lucio's buffs are granted by default - they are ever present and you can count on them.
Mercy's everything entirely depends on
>where is she
>who is she healing
>are people dead so she can use her ultiamte
SO IT IS NOT DEPENDABLE
Mercy is great if you are the tank being pocketed and in that case, and in that case only she outshines the fuck out of Lucio.
But you are a fucking retard if you think thats a solid argument, or probably just play with a friend who pockets you you bitch.
>team needs a support
>last guy picks Symmetra
>>339251989
This is exactly what people mean when they say you only get kills with it if the other person blows.
>>339252291
A pro team went 5 tracers last night, kek.They won
>>339252371
I just got the game yesterday still strolling around rank 6. Its fun to body people get get called a hacker or something.
All these idiots arguing Lucio v. Mercy and not realizing that if your damage isn't shit, you can roll both of them and stomp fucking everyone by just outhealing them.
There's a reason widow and McCree are so popular in high level play. They're the only one that can consistently put out enough burst to overpower that combo's monstrous healing capability.
>>339252291
>but once you're playing against a team who isn't shit, they aren't going to ignore you as Mercy.
What makes you think that is any different for Lucio?
For me personally I can usually stay alive longer with Mercy because of the flight ability.
>>339252121
no its true lucios normal heal is not strong enough, with his heal boost he is great but its cool down is so long half your team can die before you get to heal again.
mercy can selectively heal those in most need and keep the entire team up. i rarely ever get to use her ult so i always just use it on single person revives because my team mates rarely go down with me around. also me being near the objective is more incentive for people to jump on the objective too but lucio on an objective doesn't mean you are safe necessarily
>>339251978
>the only zodiac with an actual ranged weapon
>melee
>>339252378
>say 2-4
> OH ITS 4 KILLS
bend my words you little shit, any other class makes 4 kills in a minute, its a simple gun that wards off bad players and lets you finish off low hp enemies, it hardly helps your defense.
see
>>339252380
>oh so effective mercy
>oh wait the enemy literally did not notice or attack her
Its great against bad players - of which I guess there is a lot.
>>339252291
Mercy provides more sustain than Lucio. Lucio can only burst heal 120HP then he's back to shitty 12HP/sec while his Amp It Up is on cooldown. The aura is nice for gradually healing everyone but if you're trying to stop a guy from dying RIGHT NOW then there's no substitute for Mercy.
>>339252459
>Lucios heal and boosts are not situational - THEY ARE GOOD IN ALL SITUATIONS.
No. They're only good when multiple people need heals in the same area at the same time, and he can only use them with cooldowns. His passive healing doesn't keep anyone alive.
>>339252484
>A pro team went 5 tracers last night
Ching Chong tower needs to be removed, it's just a retarded map.
>>339252423
>life isn't fair
:(
>>339251978
>Healer
>Cancer
Subtle
>>339252484
What map? Who against Who?
>>339249439
How about you communicate with your team then? I swear it's the shitters that are complaining about other people in this thread
>>339252291
i would love to play mercy with you and a full squad so you can understand how quick and vigilant i can be as mercy. i never have to use her ult because no one ever dies.
>>339252551
This is right if you are in a chokepoint with the entire team.
Once people are flanking left and right Mercy is healing 1-2 people and the rest suffers.
>>339252602
I think theres a huge difference between how we look at the game
I AM the one who keeps ME alive regardless of what I play, I do not expect to be granted life by my healer.
You are just a bad player.
What does it feel like to be healed, /v/?
>>339252584
>Its great against bad players - of which I guess there is a lot.
Dude you cant even imagine if you havent played Closed beta. In CBT everyone was a fucking progamer compare to what pubs are now
>>339252310
>play Reinhardt
>healslut isn't healing me
>enemies capture Blitzkrieg the fuck out of us
>no one is doing their job
I hate this so much.
I can't figure out if I'm supposed to shoot at Zarya shields or wait for them to expire
>>339252584
>MERCY'S PISTOL DOES NOTHING!
>>It actually does it can kill people
>YEAH BUT NOT AS MUCH AS A DPS
Keep moving those goal posts.
>>339251604
The best use for Mercy's ult is to counteract other ults
>Zarya ults
>Meme dragons kill everyone (except you somehow)
>Lmao no that never happened
Lucio still shits all over her though, if you're not taking sustained heavy damage your team will never die with Lucio
>>339252758
They'll filter out in a couple of months I guess
All new FPS games are only good in the beginning because everyone is fucking terrible so if you have a semblence of existing FPS skills you can dominate the shit out of every match.
Sadly in this "team based" clusterfuck it means you'll just fail a lot more.
>>339252484
>The first character Blizzard created was Tracer
>The first map Blizzard created was Temple of Anubis
This explains so so much.
>>339252761
Every time I see Mei I see a fat SJW tumblr girl behind it. Last time a whore from my team blocked my charge attack with a shitty wall blocking the way to prevent the enemies from caputring the point.
Fucking retards.
>>339251604
I find people realize quite quickly that I'm always behind them and will heal them asap. They then stop walking off with half health and keep pushing.
Also the the Q is to remedy the teams mistakes like ignoring a noon, wheel or mech nuke. All things you can't outheal.
>>339252738
It feels good. You get to go to great lengths to kill a bunch of people and win the game then at the end of the round the healer takes all the credit.
>>339252818
I've said none of those things, while you try to kill with your peashooter to prove you have balls you could probably be more useful healing.
>>339252886
As I said in another post - that works fine, if your enitre team is on the same chokepoint.
>>339252737
but mercy's fly power makes traveling quick and if someone leaves the objective so far i cant heal them then they deserve to die as punishment from abandoning the objective.
i understand a good offence can mean a good defence but way too often people get cocky and push too hard then they die without the healer with them then one by one the team mates drop. thats why i stay by the objective and help the team hold the important points.
my rule is if you want to wander away from the objective and your healer your health is fully your responsibility to take care of
>>339252253
Lucio main here, I can agree with this. Mercy's most important factor is how well she can use her ult.
>>339252789
They absorb 200 damage over like 4 seconds, but if they absorb that much they increase her damage by 50%, up to a maximum of 99%, I think.
So don't shoot the shield unless you KNOW you can break it and kill the zarya. In almost every situation it's better to not shoot it and just reload or switch targets.
why does he have 250 hp?
>>339247091
>tfw unwanted irl
>find validation looking for love in the most shallow of places
It's all I have. ;__;
>>339252993
because his guns only work at close ranges
>>339248768
>mfw got a Zen potg by just headshotting people in a gravity well while Harmony orb was off on Reaper
I didn't deserve it
>>339252848
>mfw this happened to me yesterday
>Defending
>enemy team charges at us at B on Hanamura
>Zarya ults and pulls in the entire charge
>I ult as Mei in the same spot
>DOUB-TRIP-QUAD-PENTAKILL
Feels good ma-
>Mercy comes flying in from the side entrance and revives all five of them
>>339252993
because he would be trash otherwise
Heal slut threads are pure cancer and should be banned on sight. I play what the team needs in order to win and not what my personality dictates. You fucking fat neckbeard retards chasing after a qt shy healslut gf need to just fuck off and stop thinking that every girl automatically plays le shy healer boi just cause that's what your dumb comics told you. Christ
>>339252937
Sometimes attacking is essential to get enemies off you and remove threats. Skilled Mercy players know how to do both based on the situation. If you just go full healbot mode 100% of the time you're going to die from being too prone.
>>339253080
Go anonymous or go home faggo.
>>339252965
Flying is far too situational, and "its their fault for flanking the enemy, we should just sit here in this stalemate" is not a nice stance to take.
I just finished an entire match of this, both me and enemy mercy on 10k+ healing, flankers died like bitched and they couldn't do a big push, I made the right choice since I was on defense - they would've done a lot better with Lucio.
>>339252969
The same could be said for every character.
>>339252584
>any other class makes 4 kills in a minute
Yes, but she's a healer. I said it's good for a healer. Is this difficult for you to understand?
The webm just proves that her damage is good. It doesn't matter if 2 of the 4 people she killed didn't see her, they went down fast and that's the point.
>while you try to kill with your peashooter to prove you have balls you could probably be more useful healing.
Shitter detected. Learn to do both.
Once again Mercy haters prove themselves to just be bad at the game. Happens every time.
>>339252893
Healer mvp votes are like getting an employee of the month vote in some shitty factory. You're doing the least fun thing in the game but hey you got to have a completely meaningless award for it at least!
time 2 raise my apm :)I can't play her worth shit
>>339252993
Because he needs to stick himself in your dick to get anything done, same reason he can heal off kills.
A good reaper is a goddamn menace.
>>339252702
>no one ever dies
Please direct me to the shitters you're playing so I can get some easy wins.
Jk. I'm sure you're exaggerating though.
>hook someone as roadhog
>ends up behind me
what causes this
it's happened like 5 times today
>roughly everyone is 20
>no one tries to capture the point
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339253273
Her ult is just pure garbage and her guns are probably one of the worst weapons in the game. The fact that she can't run and gun is like adding insult to injury.
>>339253368
Mandatory "this is how you play each game mode" tutorial WHEN
>Trying to be a good little healslut for my tank on Anubis Point B attack
>They have a Torb, Bastion, Widowmaker, some other shit
>Team is still half dead from push on A
>"Well, I'll try to heal everyone up while we deal with their defense-"
>My Rein fucking charges in
>I have less than half a second to decide if I want to be a hero with my tank or not
>>339253270
Healing is pretty damn fun if both yours and the enemy's team is good. And it feels great being the backbone of your team.
>>339253252
>hurr mercy isnt bad you are bad
Rich argument again but its getting repetitive, she has a weak ass defense and if you werent playing with total shitters you'd be a very pretty corpse by the time you changed weapons.
It has good enough damage to finish off damaged people and fucking stunned immobile ones - meet ANY class on full hp and you either fly away if someone was nearby or die.
Alternatively engage in the ranged version of two pretty grils btichslapping eachother.
>>339253414
You've got to be mentally retardd to not know it after 20 levels.
>play in a stack
>some fucking faggot keeps spamming tracer
>everyone tells him to change heroes
>no I want to get good at tracer
>then go play solo you cunt stop ruining it for the rest of us
>no stop being a try hard
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339253387
The only fucking use I found in her was flanking in ways most characters have trouble moving through, but even then the guns are...
>situational
>situational
>situational
>situational
Alright. I don't play Lucio or Mercy so I will ask you guys.
Explain a hypothetical situation where you need to use Mercy over Lucio and also explain a hypothetical when you need to do the opposite.
Up until now, I have pretty much been under the impression people pick either Mercy or Lucio completely under the idea of personal preference and nothing more.
>>339253387
Her ult is a huge area deny. It's not useful in every situation, but if you're pushing a point and the other team is really dug in, it can force them to scatter and simultaneously clear any static defenses.
It's a great initiator, but awful for producing casualties.
>>339253306
roadhog is wonky as shit
>hook an out of mech dva
>she just kind of hops upwards and then falls down 30 meters from me
>>339253543
You know who else can flank, has a gun that let's him run, goes through shields, hits multiple targets and has an ult that's actually really hard to deal with?
Winston
>>339252136
>Good luck surviving for more than 5 seconds if you get focused and don't have anywhere to fly off to.
>>>>this is what Mercy players actually believe
Lucio can fight against a crowd with his superior mobility. He can hold his own when outnumbered. All Mercy can do is run and hide behind her teammates.
>>339253524
He's right, though.
If he wants to improve as tracer the best way to do it is with other people. Don't be med, is just video game.
>attack
>team has 2 Hanzos
Its going to be one of those games, isnt it?
>>339253438
>meet ANY class on full hp and you either fly away if someone was nearby or die.
Scrub detected. Mercy can literally 1v1 most DPS classes from a distance. She can even take out bastions, turrets, etc by herself.
>>339253645
Yeah but he is extremely visible, with dva I could just fly around routes nobody even cares about because they cannot travel there at all.
Not to say she is good or anything, i kill a ton of them.
>attacking those last two checkpoints in Gibraltar
You can body a team as much as you fucking want before then and they'll still somehow manage to stop you there.
>>339253626
Her ult is literally nothing when you realize that you just need to stand away from line of sight for 2 seconds in order to not get hit. It's not a good area denial at all because even the fucking payload serves as cover from it.
>>339253387
>Her ult is just pure garbage
It's one of the best things in the game for getting people to fuck off. On static objectives if you place it dead centre you will clear the place out, if not by killing them then at least by getting them to hide somewhere and none of the static objectives have safe spots within them.
>>339253543
The guns aren't even bad, you just need to know what they're good for. It doesn't do damage for shit to people like Lucio or Tracer or anyone else with a small hitbox unless you're mid range or closer, but it completely fucking eats through Roadhogs, Winstons and Reinhardts, as well as turrets. The amount of times a Roadhog has hooked me only for me to unload into his face and he dies before he even realises it is ridiculous.
>>339253368
>I'm the only one escorting the payload
>as a fucking Lucio
>>339253732
You are retarded anon, its not an 1v1 if THEY ARE NOT FIGHTING YOU.
>peashooter sniper wannabe detected
>>339253732
>she can take out completely stationary targets by herself
So can literally any other support, and every single one of them does a better job at it
>>339251878
>higher skill ceiling just means it takes more skill to use
in some cases yes
in lucio's, no
>>339253414
Yes, that will help.
>>339253774
I can see the logic but I eat shittons of dvas with roadhog, or atleast their mechs.
>>339253676
>tfw I cant make myself better at widowmaker because I know I'm making team lose with fuckawful aiming and the shame is too great
>>339251978
>Sagittarius
>melee
>I'm Sagittarius and melee is literally my least preferred role in any MMO
fuck you
>>339253676
If we're losing because this guy is playing tracer into torbjorn, Reinhardt and soldier and he just keeps getting murdered before he can do anything then I have every right to be mad. If I'm playing a healer and having a shit time because there's always a reaper on my ass, just so my team can win, then maybe his priorities should also lie in what makes the team win and not what his autism demands he should play.
>>339253670
lol Lucio can't kill shit. He's only "more mobile" when he uses his speed buff, which is almost always useless.
>>339252818
The gun does damage. No one is really arguing that it's a gun that shoots stuff and hitting things with it does damage.
It's intentionally not that strong though. No one is underestimating it by saying it's relatively weak. That's a fact. That's because she has other strong abilities. I don't know why Mercy players get bent out of shape when you say it isn't that great. It isn't.
But in anycase that webm is a top fucking example of using it on horrible people They paid absolutely no attention to the mercy player. None.
>>339253570
Defense in general is very good for Mercy. The incoming damage is a trickle thanks to the choke, so you don't need to heal everyone at once. Plus you get to damage boost someone if all is good with health, which will only strengthen your defensive position.
Then of course there's the ults, both good in a lot of situations, but I feel like Lucio's favors attacking a lot more, helping with a giant push. Mercy's is good whenever, but it can turn a failing defense around way harder than a failed offense, since your guys are in friendly territory, versus the enemy's base.
>>339253387
>Not using the boost to send the robot across the map and detonating right above the objective killing two players and making the rest run away
>>339253817
You are the retarded one if you don't know how to use Mercy's pistol. It's an effective tool which you apparently are puzzled on how to use.
>>339251978
>libra and always play ranged if possible
You win this round
>>339253414
What I want is, on the pick screen, a list of who counters who. That way, maybe my retarded pub team mates won't keep picking fucking tracer into Mei.
>>339253217
you know lucios heal doesn't have infinite range, if someone flanks on there own they will not be receiving heals. if you wanna lone ranger about the map you need to take care of your health.
>situational
too many people use this word wrong. i use flying even if the person is right next to me just to keep moving and make myself a hard target. flying is also a good substitute for sprinting because you can fly much faster than you can run
>>339253296
quick play is full of people who dont work as teams so they come in one or two at a time do a big attack and take down a lot of health but im healing much faster than they are damaging and if the enemy team does decide to work as a team then maybe my team will have to start taking cover and stop running in like they have infinite health
>>339253570
If Mercy was a male, you'd only see Lucio.
Someone will deny this, but I only speak the truth anon.
>>339253570
Ideal situation for mercy: Your team has a lot of heroes with deep HP pools that run to you for healing, and a couple of high-skill damage dealers to buff when you're not charging your ult off those hp sponges. Res everyone constantly. You expect to be fighting in a dispersed pattern (such as payload maps) where people will be taking individual damage. When faced with offensive ults, you let your teammates die to them and resurrect them.
Lucio: Your team doesn't have deep hp pools, but they're clumped up and taking constant harassing fire (such as king of the hill maps or control points) that would otherwise force them to disengage to find healing. When faced with offensive ults, you pre-emptivley hit your shield ult.
>>339253570
Lucio is good on offense and koth.
Mercy is good on defense or to pocket a tank.
But the thing is that Lucio is never not useful, Mercy on offense is pretty much a pretty target for Bastion/76/Widow.
>>339254034
And you are an assmad faggot who thinks that sniping with his peashooter and taking out low hp targets from 80 meters has ANYTHING to do with how the weapon can be used in close proximity defense.
Now queue up those
>this time 2 reapers spawned next to me and I killed both with my trusty pistol and still had 180hp left
