>/v/ says a game is shit
>it's actually pretty good
So why all the hate for Skyward Sword again? I don't get it, the game is fun. I hope they release the HD version aswell.
While glitches helped me enjoy the game more, it is still quite linear. That and unskippable cutscenes in normal mode.
Sure it fun when you're actually in a dungeon, the game is far heavier on the outside quests end, which includes a shitload of boring fetchquests which should have been side quests.
Sure there's some of that in other games but its blown completely out of proportion here and there's not enough dungeons, or diversity in enemies, to make up for it.
>>339225976
>posts the only good boss
The game was casual shit and you know it.
The whole thing was "swing sword here"
>>339226379
>only good boss
Excuse me?
>people like SS now
THE ZELDA CYCLE IS REAL
>>339225976
Yeah it was a fine game. The problem was the "when it worked" aspect of it and many other Wii titles. When it worked, Skyward Sword was awesome.
But 50-80% reliability isn't good enough especially for a Nintendo game. It was good when it worked. Overall it was a fine game, but a disappointing Nintendo game to be sure.
>>339228339
>When it worked, Skyward Sword was awesome.
Simon says combat and non-puzzles is awesome?
>>339228412
Nig yeah, nag!
>>339228412
Yeah the combat was engaging and the environments were fun. Also some of the dungeons were really cool and well designed.
Just wish it was all more reliable. And less linear! No idea what they were thinking with the design of the area around Skyloft and that weird flood thing toward the end.
>>339228412
Every Zelda has simon says combat.
>>339228718
Yeah the combat is pretty simple and easy. Zelda games aren't really about the challenge, that's for damn sure.
They're entertaining and just challenging enough to get your blood pumping but probably not enough to actually have you reach a fail state.
>>339228624
>Yeah the combat was engaging
Shallowest in the franchise
>and the environments were fun.
*hallways
>>339225976
>Fi in every sense
MASTER I'M BEEPING TO LET YOU KNOW YOUR HEART METER IS BEEPING
>It turns fighting into a chore
Instead of simply slashing things you need to wait for it to do something so you can hit it at the right angle
>Dowsing quests
>Returning to previous areas
It just got boring by the end
>Game generally unmemorable
>Imprisoned fights
How to make Skyward Sword fun:
>Get gecko codes
>Remove Fi messages
>Remove repeated messages
>Remove Stamina gauge
>Hookshot can latch onto anything
>Hookshot can hit anything regardless of distance
There's other things, but I can't remember enough about the game to remember what else I used to make it fun.
It was disappointing. Flying around in the sky was underwhelming, with little to explore and discover. The fetch quests were too repetive and became boring. In general, there wasn't much to do besides the linear story quests. Zelda games always rehash elements, but this game was the first time the experience felt stale to me.
>>339228718
only if youre a fucking retard who hides behind the shield. Enemies died faster if you got gud
in SS it's literally a waiting game
>>339228310
Personally I always liked it, (other than the fucking motion controls) but I have liked every Zelda at release.
>>339228826
Disagree about the hallways. Most of the environments were colorful and creative and fun to traverse, though the overall structure of the game was very linear which was really a shame.
Definitely agree about the game being one of the worst in the franchise though. Very disappointing to see that level of quality from Nintendo.
>>339225976
Alot of Wii kids having their 18th this year I see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qAjK7wd5QE
obligatory
The padding was the worst of any game I've ever played, even bravely default
collecting the music notes, the escort section, the dowsing, the silent realm, all 10000 imprisoned fights
The game had hours upon hours of tedium that served no point but to make the game longer
>>339228412
MGS is glorified red-light-green-light but it's still good.
>>339230005
Forgot pic.
>>339229684
>1000 Imprisoned fights
Alot of the games flaws aren't overblown but this one always is.
You fight the Imprisoned three times and there's like a three dungeon gap between the first and second fights. Not to mention you can just bomb his fat ass the second and third times.
>>339229492
That already happened with the TP nostalgiafagging, this SS thing is just an on and off thing whenever someone picks up the game for the first time and gets to the halfway point.
>>339225976
>>339230138
Daily reminder.
>>339230213
>implying Shig was directly involved in a single one of those games
Dumb meme
>>339225976
It's not shit but it's very very flawed
>sky is empty and might as well not exist, should have just put what little it had on the ground (or vice versa)
>loftwing adds nothing to the game and is just another dumb vehicle gimmick, controls aren't great either
>areas are rehashed three times, four if you include the silent realm segments
>Imprisoned is rehashed three times
>third act is pure filler and grinds the pacing to a halt
>Sandship and Ancient Cistern are good, but Fire Sanctuary is a rehash of Earth Temple, and Sky Keep is a half-assed sliding puzzle with reused assets (including the "boss")
>Sandship's boss design is a complete joke
>combat is fresh but restrictive, and the enemy variety is incredibly limited
>Fi is obnoxious and incredibly handholdy, yet has no real personality or strong role in the plot (pretty much a straight downgrade from Midna)
>continues the terrible trend of 3D Zeldas jerking off OoT
>final boss ends far too quickly
It still has the usual charm, has a few strong dungeons, and some good ideas here and there (crafting, stamina, bomb bowling, etc), but a lot of the hate is semi-justified. It's not an Other M-tier disaster, but Nintendo should learn from its mistakes.
>>339225976
Because it's a giant repetitive fetch quest with few good puzzles and non exist interesting story.
>>339230213
>edited for SS
Fuck off.
>>339230342
But... but he was back then, anon.
Miyamoto wasn't shifted to his overseers position until after Iwata restructured Nintendo's departments in the late 00s.
Top-shelf meme.
Despite "a new Zelda game for Wii" being in development for something like four years, SS as it released was made in one or two. Sucks because there were a lot of big ideas that had to get scrapped. But it's still fun.
>>339230521
>being this new
LMAO
>>339230576
He had already handed the series off to Aonuma by Wind Waker though. He came up with the Celda art style but that was it.
>>339230705
I think SS feels so rushed because so much time and effort was focused on getting the motion controls right. Everything else was a secondary concern.
List of franchises /v/ will unanimously shit on no matter how good a new game is:
Sonic
Zelda
Uncharted
Resident Evil
Pokemon
>>339230862
Then how come the dungeons are top-notch and at least half the bosses the best bosses sin the franchise?
>>339231000
Checked.
Ss is shit ot my opinion, for reasons stated in
>>339230520
>>339231069
Have you played any game other than SS anon?
>>339230862
Yes and no
It started development with a motion emphasis but the team couldn't make it work so they switched to making a game without it
Then Motion+ and Wii Sports Resort entered development and the team was like "lol look at those Zelda dorks can't even do swords right" while they made a kendo fencing minigame with perfect 1:1 accuracy
So Zelda had the table upended *again* and we got Skyward Sword
>>339231069
>Scaldera
>The Imprisoned
>Tentalus
>The Imprisoned
>Moldarach
>The Imprisoned
>Good
Those two identical Ghirahim fights must have been your favorite bosses ever.
Pokemon Platinum
>>339225976
Zelda cycle.
>>339231190
>implying I haven't beaten every Zelda
>>339231286
>Precisely leaving out half the bosses
Bet you won over so many people with these non-arguments. Have a (you) for the effort and SS is till the second best Zelda.
>>339225976
Every game they bitch about.
>>339231069
>Then how come the dungeons are top-notch
That's a stretch. Ancient Cistern is good, Sandship is good except for the boss, Fire Sanctuary is a rehash of the Earth Temple, Sky Keep is a half-assed sliding puzzle with re-used assets, and the rest are mediocre. The bosses are the same way, some are good, some are shit, some are mediocre. I would not call the quality "top-notch" by any means.
In my opinion TP had more and (generally) better dungeons. It had quality AND quantity. SS can't really compare. Same with the companions, Midna is better in pretty much every way.
>>339231435
The first temple in TP has you climb a few vines and chase an ape. The first temple in SS gives you the most awesome item to date, has you fighting surprisingly difficult spiders, a goddamn Stalfos and the hardest boss in the zelda series since the NES days.
>>339231435
Midna was just Tatl with a body.
>>339225976
It was alright, not a bad game just not up to the standards I expect from a Zelda game. My biggest problem with it was that the flying part had a lot less exploration then I was hoping, I wanted that part to be like Wind Waker.
>>339231582
>SS
>hardest anything
I like the game but come on
>>339231582
Skyview Temple is 3 puzzle rooms, a miniboss and then a straight line to the boss. It's about as simple as the Great Deku Tree but in a game with only 6 1/2 dungeons instead of 9.
>>339231759
Name a harder boss so I can laugh at you.
>>339231582
>the first thing I don't like is extremely simplistic
>the second thing is so amazing and detailed
Totally not a biased comparison at all. Personally I thought the monkeys were much more memorable than anything in Skyview Temple. I love the beetle, and Ghirahim, but the actual design and theme of the dungeon were fairly weak.
The only reason people would find Ghirahim hard is because they're still coming to grips with the motion controls. 3D Zeldas are generally piss easy so there's not much competition, but he's still easier than most of LttP.
>>339231596
I think you're overestimating how good Tatl was. Better than Navi for sure, but ultimately she was still stuck in her shadow. Midna has a strong personality, theme, sound design, visual design, and story role.
>>339231371
most of the game is thoughtless fetchequest with a few good dungeons and 1 good boss.
>>339231846
Most bosses in Zelda 1 and fucking common enemies in Zelda 2 were harder than the giant scorpion with obvious blinking eye weak points
>Liked every 3D Zelda game upon playing it for the first time even Skyward Sword
>For every game BUT Skyward Sword those feelings persisted.
There is no Zelda-Cycle retards.
>>339232138
See? You're an idiot and I'm still right. I've had this argument a million times and I always win.
No its not fuck off with your weak ass bait you nigger
>>339232273
>Nonargumentintensifies.png
>>339232089
Their personality is EXACTLY the same as far as companionship. " Oh you're asking ME for help? Sure I'll help I GUESS." Same shit. All Midna has is more visual presence and an appeal to lonely subs.
What the hell are you guys talking about
skyward sword was a good gameFOR ONE PLAYTHROUGH
It didnt have any replayability, once you've seen the game, that was enough.
Going through it a second time with all the shitty dialogue and tutorial bits with forced cutscenes made it a huge waste of time.
It was something that was neat at first but gets very old quickly
that was the issue, it wasnt a glitch or "reliablity" on making boss fights work
Also personally i was expecting some great composed songs that would match gerudo valley for some reason. Maybe it was just from my initial reaction to the theme music of the game, but i had high hopes that i would be listening to the OST. Most of the songs were just boring generic orchestra to fill the void
>>339232406
Last post out of courtesy before ignoring you.
>the hardest boss in the zelda series since the NES days
>since the NES days
>NES days
>>339232273
Shitposter pls stop being a tragic waste of human life
>>339232138
I wonder if the Scorpion was a test miniboss form the E3 demo first then stuck into the Mining Facility as an actual boss or the other way around.
But then that brings the question of how the fuck do you rush a game that was 5 years into development?
>>339232476
Oh my bad
Moldorm in ALttP
>>339232431
Yeah, let's just completely ignore their role in the plot.
>an appeal to lonely subs
I don't think this conversation is going anywhere.
>>339232630
Sorry I don't like your waifu?
I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT THUNDERBIRD THIS FIGHT IS SUCH BULLSHIT I ALREADY HAVE LEVEL 8 IN EVERY STAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339232593
He's easy and even casuals can just refill their health after you fall down. Ghirahim will break a casual's shield before beating them to death with their own sword.
>>339232431
Funny thing, Fi is actually really fucking useless when I really needed her help.
>Ask her about an enemy
>Goes into flavor text about the type of underpants it wears
>You've killed 9 of these enemies
>Ask for more info
>I don't have any more Info master
Why was that last option even there?
>>339231435
>TP
>quality AND quantity
No, it just had quantity. SS had neither quantity nor quality so it's created the illusion that TP was a good game when it was in fact, not.
>>339232779
Oh shit, somehow I thought the E3 demo scorpion was the first boss. Been too long. First Ghirahim fight was a surprising challenge, sure.
>>339232992
At least you're admitting it, that other guy latched onto your ignorance and was like "yeah, SS sure sucks because of all these things I have no idea about because I never played the game".
I still don't like it
>27 unique posters
Looks like someone wants badly wants SS to be liked.
Zelda's a qt in it though.yeah i said images
>>339233417
fuck it, i'm drunk. Forget the corrections.
I don't get assessing Zelda games by measuring against some check list. I just figure how much time I spent enjoying it vs. how much spent not enjoying it. Like any other game. TP dungeons are more elaborate and clever sure but I definitely spent more time being bored or annoyed by it than SS.
There are three areas. None are particularly memorable or interesting
