Interesting/Overlooked details in games
>>339223456
In the Halo soundtracks composed by Kazuma Jinnnouchi, the theme for Master Chief is two long notes followed by seven short notes
>1
>1
>7
>>339223782
Halo is a pretty good game, It's a shame most people dismiss it.
>>339223782
this guy is hidden in the bg of that map with all the satellite dishes
>>339223456
if you punch a butterfly it turns into a bomb and chases you
In Majora's Mask, wearing the troupe leader's mask during the night you defend the wagon from the bandits will make them unable to attack.
>>339223782
There's a glitch you can exploit in Halo 3 in the last level to cause Johnson to "survive" his death scene and have a copy of himself outside the room after you kill Guilty Spark.
This is the only instance since Halo CE where Johnson is not invincible, and this copy can die or even be infected by Flood. He won't follow you anywhere, but you can push him to the Warthogs waiting for you to drive to the end, and he'll jump in, allowing you to "save" Johnson by bringing him along on the final Warthog run.
>>339223782
In Halo CE on the mission 343 Guilty Spark, you can see flood combat forms running along the edges of the map if you're fast enough moving through the fog, these are the yellow blips on your radar.
>>339225663
Yep. What's really cool is that they also recorded combat dialogue for it; Johnson says "I thought I was immune to this" while being infected.
When you grab a berserk pack in Doom, most new players will assume that the super strength punches only last while your screen is tinted red, but the effect actually lasts the entire map until you progress to a new level. This makes conserving ammo while fighting weaker enemies pretty easy on harder difficulties.
A lot of players also fail to understand how the BFG 9000 properly works. Rather than write out a complicated description of how it works, here's a picture to illustrate it instead.
The Cyber Demon is actually the fastest demon in Doom, and the second fastest in future games behind the Archvile.
The original clay model of the Mancubus actually has three pairs of breasts and nipples, however on the in-game sprites the nipples are very difficult to make out; they simple appear as three dark dots in certain frames of animation.
E3M2 (Sloth of Despair) is shaped like a hand.
on the bottom of Halo 1's pistol, there is the japanese (or chinese) symbol for power
>>339223456
Is the person who made this picture actually retarded
The Koopa just looks like it's cowering because it's already hunched over, but the angle is different.
Am I being baited or something? Am I just retarded?
>>339225985
Southward? Like relative to the map? I thought you just shoot the blob somewhere and then it does damage where it goes
If you go to southern cave in FF7 there's a secret spot where if you press X a ghost will appear.
The ghost is actually zack.
In red faction guerilla when you take control of some artillary, the junk text scrolling on the side reads "Text that you can not read goes here"
>>339224757
no they dont. you're just focusing too much on the shitposters.
In SMW2 Yoshi's Island, you can actually kill the pirahna plant boss before it transforms by shooting an egg offscreen into the boss's arena and having it hit the untransformed plant. Kamek will even come in and comment on it and fly away.
>>339225917
Bullshit.
>>339226091
It runs away from Mario frantically. You are, in fact, retarded.
>>339226208
Yeah, it's relative to where you fire. I suppose that image didn't convey that well enough, but the tracer damage essentially locks at the angle that you fire from, and then activates once the orb detonates.
Additional Doom fact: you can kill the Spider Mastermind in one BFG blast by being right in its face when the tracer rounds detonate; because it's a cone of fire and due to the Spider Mastermind having the largest hitbox in the game, it essentially takes hundreds of damage from the tracers.
Most PS2 and 360 online games had zero protection from native data manipulation.
For example, you could use a Gameshark in Timesplitters: Future Perfect for infinite ammo and health in online matches. And in the 360 edition of TF2, you could use a plug-in to place Half-Life 2 props all over the map, trap people in spawn, use Half-Life 2 weapons, etc.
In FF7 you can choose when to get Vincent. Either as Cloud before he goes retarded or as Tifa, Barret, or Cid when they become temporary leaders. They each have different things to say to Vincent. I think it goes the same for Yuffie too.
>>339226603
>And in the 360 edition of TF2, you could use a plug-in to place Half-Life 2 props all over the map, trap people in spawn, use Half-Life 2 weapons, etc.
i remember doing that on my friends 360
>>339226253
Kind of like when you go to Lon Lon Ranch at exactly noon and fire an arrow at the sun to get to the Temple of Light.
Good times, anon.
>>339226281
I remember that
>>339224757
Only the newer ones.
>>339226603
This was rampant on Dreamcast. Especially Phantasy Star Online.
A player with a cheat device could turn your character into an NPC. You couldn't control the NPC and your character was saved like this, effectively deleting them.
>>339225985
>That image
Wow, interesting.
>>339224757
Halo 1 was the most mediocre and average game to ever grace the earth
only good thing about it was the soundtrack
>>339226409
No not at all. Halo has absurd amount of dialogue that you never really here. The elites even have unique dialects depending on the type and map you're on. It has tons of cool details in it. People shit on halo unnecessarily. They're really fun games
>>339226409
I can't find a gameplay video of it, but Halopedia seems to agree http://www.halopedia.org/Avery_Johnson/Quotes
>>339227054
I literally still play CE to this day and have fun with it, the only problem with it is repetitive locales sometimes interrupting the pacing.
>>339226937
>You will never know what it's like to be NOL'ed
Some guy did manage to cause permanent damage to one of my VMUs on the dreamcast version though. Holy shit.
>>339227190
Nothing wrong with enjoying mediocre games, as long as you have fun its totally ok I think
>>339227408
That's not really relevant; we were discussing a great game
In overwatch characters will sometimes comment on the map or fellow characters in the spawn room. Most of the time its lore related but other times they say malicious statements
>Picking Mei on the Route 66 map "I think I'm a little over dressed for this place."
In Hydrocity Zone, you can see Sonic statues in the background, probably made by echidnas way back in the past.
>>339227693
Gothic already had that and its 15 years old
>>339225323
Chief?
found this the other day
>have to go down pathway where you'd think there would be a secret item
>end of the hall has two knights with their back to you
>the only thing they were guarding was this dead knight with a different texture than the others
WHO IS HE!?!?!
>>339227797
that's their OC's
In Sonic Heroes, if you turn the camera towards Rouge, she will wink to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7YwfAaJMM
houndeye will do things while you're not around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_R2OMgNUY
>>339227904
Also in the same game, the Eggman statue in Hang Castle is a Neo Metal Sonic statue upside down.
>>339227693
That's not really a hidden or uncommon thing though.
>>339227891
Reused-model knight, the final boss of DLC 2.
>>339226603
>tfw using gameshark to give your self inf ammo on resident evil because you were shit
>>339225985
Think of the BFG as a rocket and a shotgun combined. The ball is the rocket and does a bit of AoE damage when it hits. When it does, the shotgun shot comes out and sprays everything for big damage.
Lots of people do it wrong. They think it's just a rocket with a huge AoE that doesn't hurt the player so they peek around a corner, fire it, and then pop back into cover over for the wall to absorb 99% of the 'pellets'.
Top secret Doom stuff here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoI57YXK2doDanny won the ping pong match.
>>339228494
This is kind of creepy.
>>339227797
In Hydrocity zone's boss fight, drown yourself until the emergency theme plays and then jump out for air and the boss music will change to Sonic and Knuckle's boss music
>>339228134
I feel like it's overlooked though
>>339225985
That's wrong. The cone is emitted towards the ball, regardless of where the player is facing or has moved since firing the shot.
>>339228558
the mini boss too
>>339228734
Nah, fake-dynamic dialogue was all the rage years ago.
>>339226253
lie more retard
>>339228768
>The cone is emitted towards the ball.
No it isn't. The only thing that matters is the direction the ball is fired.
If you fire the BFG, turn 360 degrees and crabwalk 150 paces to the left, you're still going to fire straight forward. The ball position is irrelevant.
>>339226253
Fake. Not on any sites or anything.
>>339223782
>>339224757
>>339225878
>>339225663
In Halo 2, on the level high charity, there's a huge open room that is mostly composed of empty space, and 3 platforms arranged in a circle around the perimeter of the room connected by gravity bridges.
If you look up at thee ceiling, you'll see what looks like a giant chandelier. This is actually a collection of glass shards from all the planets the covenant has glassed, which is mentioned in one of the books that came out a little while before H2 did: First Strike.
>>339228768
no. the game stores your direction, but not your position. it uses your current position on the blast, with your old view direction.
>>339226091
HAVE U EVER EVEN PLAYED MARIO 64 U FUCKING MASSIVE FAGGOTT
>>339226407
Underrated, that's really neat.
>>339226407
Also the main theme is the Russian anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuxBwelptag
Metal Sonic's theme in Sonic 4 Ep 2 is pretty similar to Sonic OVA's ending theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS6-5sV89Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK82EmKzXEk
>>339223456
I am In Logan square. Grow a pair gringo.
>>339229630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdURDeKS5XQ
In MGS3 if you kill the scientists the Shagohod boss will have less health.
>>339229806
Holy shit really?
I learn something new about that game and 2 every so often. I miss when Kojima had that much technology.
>>339229734
I don't hear the correlationAlso I fucking hate Sonic 4 so much holy shit
>>339224757
Halo became so big that it changed the benchmark for shooters. They became slower and more accessible for casuals. This sucks for many of us from /v/ of old who loved games like UT and Quake. I don't care if you like the game, but it changed shooters from being fast to console-based, slower. This sucks.
I mean dark souls is full of shit like this, but one thing thought was neat was that after beating Ornstein and Smough, there are two elevators that take you to the princess. One of them is big and the other one is smaller. The big one was smough's elevator and the small one was Ornstein's
>>339226884
Either you're baiting or have shit taste
>>339228031
That's cool
>>339230006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g44YYtJpVI
Also, Cosmic Eternity and Stardust Speedway are kinda similar in their main part/chorus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrqXpYwS9nI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl3h39abxc
>>339227797
DEEPEST LORE
>>339223782
>>339224757
>>339225878
>>339225663
>>339229303
In Halo 3, there's a section at the end of the sixth mission where you come upon a Brute Chieftain with a Hammer surrounded by his minions in a ring. If you don't fire a weapon, you can walk into the ring and engage in a melee duel with the Chieftaiin. All the other Brutes will just watch in a circle until you beat the Chieftain, so long as you don't fire a shot.
>>339230098
When you defeat Ornstein first in the fight his fingers move a little bit before he gets s'mored by Smough
>>339230267
That sounds fucking awesome if true.
>>339226407
>>339229630
There's a nod to this trick in Wolly World. You can hit the Pirahna with a yarn ball, but Kamek stops you before you can kill it.
>>339230386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGoGLCa3gB8
>>339229891
Yeah, and another one that you probably knew is if you blow up the storehouses the guards will always eat the food you throw or switch to their sidearms when they run out of bullets.
>>339229153
It's fake, though if you use a Gameshark to put Aeris back into the game after she's passed away she still has some occasional dialogue.
>>339230267
Fucking Bungie.
All that outstanding Halo stuff and they'll probably go down with Destiny.
>>339230109
I think he's saying people dismiss the newer ones. And they do.
>>339223456
Super Mario 64. Bomb-Omb Battlefield and Cool Cool Mountain both have the same music, just played in different speeds and instruments.
>>339225398
I read about this in a guide, but I could never do it.
The optional wolf boss in FFXII has its genitals on full display.
>>339230109
People would have shit taste for liking the abortions known as Halo 4 and 5? Seriously?
>>339230639
I know for sure that it works on the butterflies at the start of Tiny Huge Island
>>339229303
>>339230386
>>339230445
In Halo 3 on Cortana you can trigger special dialog and access a extra termiinal which is basically just the Gravemind trying to fuck withh cheif's head by making cortana talk about stuff from his childhood which is mentioned in the first halo novel The Fall of Reach, video of it here
http://gameclipscontent-d3004.xboxlive.com/asset-4f40416c-7e1e-4b3c-865e-646d6b57d991/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=c&sig=fNpkt4HyuW4WeKzy7nOTCkoBBcBRbR6xjfSc8uPAh%2BM%3D&st=2016-04-10T21%3A59%3A16Z&se=2016-04-10T23%3A04%3A16Z&sp=r&__gda__=1460329456_13d7adeb4ab65fefcf5d6aba13052fa5
The "May I speak with you please; what's your name; it's very nice to meet you" etc is what dr. Halsey said to John when they first met and she was testing him as an S2 cannidate. The "coin" mentioned is a 21st century (ie, modern irl) quarter she used to test his eyesight and luck by making him try to track which face would land up.
>>339230267
Shit I didn't know that
>>339230445
To 343's credit they have kept doing that sort of thing
>>339226091
Wrong.
>>339230524
>And they do.
But four was ass.
Everyone knows three was great.
Haven't played five though,
/v/ generally like/love ODST.
And Reach is fairly agreed upon for having a nice story but armor abilities /MP were shit.
>>339230524
Ah. Well, the new ones are rightfully dismissed. I'm still angry about excluding splitscreen from the latest installment. Fucking CoD can do this shit, and the Xbone is more powerful than the 360. 343i are terrible devs. Halo 5 launched half-finished FFS
>No forge
>No infection
>No BTB
>No offline features
>No alert carry (the machinima thing where characters lower their weapon)
>No splitscreen
>Removed a bunch of gametypes previous Halo games launched with
Don't even get me started on online-only forge.
>>339228494
In doom64 a few of the maps music was distorted recordings of a bee the composer put in a soda can and shook.
>>339230267
If you go into that area in theater mode, get the camera through the doors via jackals/brutes opening the doors, and keep Chief away from the door to trigger the brutes, you can actually catch them singing songs and shit.
There's also tons of ways to break out of bounds in theater mode, I use to do it all the time to explore campaign maps from high above. Was cool as shit.
>>339227891
leave it to vaati to make up some bullshit lore about it.
>>339230695
Yes, liking 4 and 5 is indeed shit taste
>>339230536
That's actually kinda common in classic Mario games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn0khIn2wfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdmS4ndSAT8
Yoshi's New Island did the same thing recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPLS1ceS4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHbVVWI24iA
>>339230075
Halo isn't actually slow, it just seems that way because things are scaled realistically.
You still move around at like 30 mph if you actually measure it. You'll note that in halo, if you and a marine start to move from the same point in the same direction, you'll very quickly outpace him by a large margin.
As a side affect from this, lorefags can use the in game models to measure the exact size of stuff, which leads to cool interactive scale charts of spacehips and stuff like this http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_scalecomparison/1280h.html
Anyways, there's a lot more to skill in shooters then movement speed. One thing halo games have that stuff like Doom for example didn't was the shield/health interplay, where certain guns would do more damage to your shields, but less to your health, and vis versa.
And as much flak as it gets, having a weapon limit, if your weapons are well balanced, can add a level of skill and teamwork with regards to map control to ufocus on picking up certain guns that cvompliment around where on the map you'll be playing and forcing you to manage what strengths and weaknesses that weapon combo have.It's a shame the vast mjority of halo gfames have shit weapon balance meaning the benefit of having a two gun limit is lost since one gun is the only one you ever really want to use anyways
>>339230695
>>339230524
>>339230937Halo 5's MP is great, probably my favorite afer Halo 2/2 anniversary
>>339230761
5's MP is really good. It does add a lot of new movement systems, but they are well executed and it has weapons on maps and even starts unlike 4 by default. The campaign and story is meh though.
>>339230868
All of that stuff has been since fixed post launch aside from online only forge which is eventually getting fixed though (doubly so since it's coming to PC), and 5's forge now that we have it blows even reach's out of the water.
In mother 3 during chapter 2 you will be able to talk to the villagers when it turns day. When Wess joins you most of the people will actually say new things to you as well, what the character Nana says though is really interesting. Talking to her with Wess she will say "Isn't it strange how most of the family members in the village don't look alike?"Nana realized the secret of Tazmily being a fake cover up of random people before anyone else had.
This stuff is cool as.
Anyone have any more
>>339230761
>But four was ass
Th-that's why they dismiss it.
Everything from ODST to the beginning is well received, Reach was a bit polarized, and 4/5 are just... yeah.
>>339230868
>No forge
>No infection
>No BTB
>No offline features
>No alert carry (the machinima thing where characters lower their weapon)
>No splitscreen
>Removed a bunch of gametypes previous Halo games launched with
You fucking what, seriously?
>>339230953
I'm fucking shocked. Played this game for years, never noticed it.
>>339230109
>>339230695
>>339230734
>>339230761
>>339230868
>>339230937
I thought 4 was decent as it's own thing, it was just not up to par with the other Halo games. The campaign missions were good but not fantastic, and the MP was fun, it just wasn't halo fun, but you could get it close if you turned the killstreak shit off and limited loadouts to gimmicky custom stuff.
The story was unreedemable ass though
The battle theme for Paper Mario TTYD is a heavily remixed version of the classic Overworld theme from Super Mario Bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPYki-9eO4Y
>>339225323
DR. HALSEY, I'M UNSC
>>339231001
https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor
You'll love this site, dedicated to finding cut/unused/and censored content in games.
>>339230963
This may be true for Halo, but now health packs in games are gone and you just regenerate health, thanks to everybody trying to copy Halo.
>>339230536
same goes for the "fast" theme from clock and rainbow ride
In OOT, when you reach the Spirit Temple room with the giant statue of a woman, you can use the hookshot on her nipples.
>>339231071
>You fucking what, seriously?
5 launched with only a few maps, and gamestypes, andf no forge. But it's gotten constant free updates adding that stuff in and adding new content (like the CE pistol, brute plasma rifle, and old BR/rocket launcher). The forge now that we have it is also almost a dev tool. It has complex scirpting, material editing for objects, sound and volume emitters, time of day effects, etc
I wouldn't have reccomended it at launch due to the fact it lacked so much at launch even if the gameplay and what was there was great, but now that it actually has all the content it should have had to begin with i'd say it's the best halo game since 2.It still doesn't have splitscreen though, which sucks, so if that's something you really want, you might not want to get it still.
>>339230990
mother 3 has the best writing of any game that i've played
that and the all the polish, more devs should look to it as an example
>>339231256
I'm not disputing that, and I agree. Even more recent halos have progressively been downplaying the differences between shields and health.
>>339231165
It's really just the loadouts and ca- ordinances that did the damage.
I actually liked most of the maps.
It's a shame they ruined the possible GOAT SP material though.
It's astounding how they managed to make you being dropped in the middle of an other worldy alium war, boring and uneventful.
>>339230267
>the same people went on to make this
JUST
>>339231443
I honestly think they just idea-guy'd too large and we got the reality of them having to scale back a hundred-thousand times.t-thanks what I tell myself anyway
>>339230267
these are amazing..keep it up
>>339231242
>https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor
Why does my browser tell me something about a security certificate from the website not being valid or some shit?
>>339231602
Including scaling back tons of grizzled ancient employees too hahah darn those cutbacks hahrip
>>339231256
Personally I hate the auto regeneration shit. It slows games down. Quake all the way.
>>339223456
Wow. Mario truly does have the deepest lore.
>>339231726
Why is it always Mario 64, though? What about the other games?
>>339231442
See, the loadouts could still be fun in certain modes, it just shouldn't have been the default. Ordiance was never fun though.
>It's astounding how they managed to make you being dropped in the middle of an other worldy alium war, boring and uneventful.
It's extra sucky because they fucking nailed it at some points only to drop the ball
>that moment you exit the cave in mission 2 and see the fucking vista with the floating pillars, like mission 2 in halo CE
>the game's soundtrack even mixes orchestral instruments and electronic snhty stuff to sound mysterious and alien like halo ce did
>totally fucks all of that effort up by then railroading you into a linear warthog segment and retcons in dialog
There's a few other moments where actual effort and competency shine through, but they are in the minority.
Fox's blaster is the assault rifle from halo so they take place in the same universe but that's just a theory
>>339231443
All that experience ... all that expertise ... all that history of CONSTANTLY building ever game bigger and more feature-rich than the last without missing hardly a beat.
Then Destiny: shit story, shit enemy variety, shit vehicle/infantry dynamic, shit gametypes ... even shit matchmaking! HOW did the people who POPULARIZED matchmaking on consoles fuck up communications with friends in a game FOCUSED on that experience!? Fucking Destiny, seriously ...
>>339231834A GAY THEORY
>>339230932
You mean steal some lore he read on plebbit.
>>339231915THANKS FOR FAPPING.
MCC on PC WHENNNNNN
God damn I just want to play Halo with /v/ again like the good ol' days before it was cool to hate fun. But I'm the only retard who bought an Xbone, so now I need it on PC so I'll have people to play with.
>>339231664
Not sure, runs normal for me. If you've never used it before I can guarantee you its a safe website.
>>339231787
In the original Super Mario Bros., the clouds and the bushes were the same thing. Really makes you think, doesn't it.
>>339231834
His pistol in SSB series also resemble the lightgun used for PS1.
>>339226012
Very appropriate considering how OP that weapon is.
>>339230536
>Bomb-Omb Battlefield and Cool Cool Mountain
Yeah it's called a theme. Also the slide music and probably some others. Sunshine practically had one fuckin song that was remixed a shit ton
>>339231424
I agree.
>>339232004
I'd say we'll have a full Halo game before the gen ends.
These days it's easier just to insert memes into the dialogue.
>>339230536
Your should listen to mario worlds music.
This shit isn't exactly hard to hear
>>339231809
Totally in the minority.
Reach was Halo's swan song. It should have just ENDED after that. Halo 3 had a great conclusion. Plenty of closure. Chief gets to go to sleep and all that, back in his pod like at the start of the first game.
But NOPE! They have to revive for shitty sequel and "dawwww cortawna is muh blu-waifu be-cuz beeeeeewwwwwwbbbbbbzzzzzzz" but whatever.
Every Halo thing made after 2010 is just Fan Fiction as far as I'm concerned!
I really wish Frank O'Connor would stop going to every thread that mentions Halo and trying to shill Halo 5.
He always uses the exact same fucking wording too, "It's my favorite Halo multiplayer, right behind Halo 2", and, "I love the new movement system", and "It's so balanced", and "B-B-B-B-BUT THERE'S FREE UPDATES- PLEASE IGNORE ALL THE CONTENT WE REMOVED!"
Fucking shill. I hope he dies in real life. Nobody wants to buy your shitty shit garbage game. Kill yourself.
Pokemon GSC had a day and night variation for the wild battle theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQq2v6kBKSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlG-uj4GMnQ
>>339223456
No shit.
The M.E. in "Unknown from M.E." makes reference to the Master Emerald. Also "Unknown from Master Emerald" makes reference to Chaos (and possibly Tikal)
>>339231664
it's just another site like tv tropes, it's entirely safe and you can wile away hours on it
>>339232375
>You will never go back to when time-synced GBC games blew your mind
I still get comfy when I play at night though.
Shame b3st gen didn't have it.
when you run over these puddles in heart gold and soul silver, the sound matches the rhythm of the percussion in the bg music.
this includes the splashing of the water to be the hits and the grass step being rests.
i'm pretty sure i've seen this being done before in pokemon, i just can't for the life of me remember.
>>339230963
Is there splitscreen on halo 5 now?
I always loved the story on the easter eggs on nazi zombies maps particularly mob of the dead
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Mob_of_the_Dead/Audio_Logs
>>339232937
Reminds me of those musical note tiles you could put in your secret base in RSE. My friend made the Peanuts tune.
>>339232331
>Every Halo thing made after 2010 is just Fan Fiction as far as I'm concerned!
I wouldn't say that. 5 has issues but the MP is great. It shows 343 is improving and getting better. A lot of the newer novels are nyuland tier as well, thankfully, after the meh to awfulness that was the travis books4 also, even though it did so much wrong, was better then I expected it to be. It did a lot more right then people give it credit for. I stand by what I said in >>339231809, but on the other hand, the skyboxes look great if pixel-y due to the low resolution of texutes, the lighting and volumetric effects look fantastic. The gameplay still fundamentally feels like halo even if it's coated in a layer of CoD ash with the loadouts and stuff. The changes they made to the scoreboard are actually great and reward objective and teamplay. The MP map design is about on par with 3's, etc
>>339232941
Nah, that's still not in and they said that though the fan reaction has made them want to make it a priority for 6, it's just not feasible to add it in for 5 post launch (they were able to patch in extra controller settings like deadzone adjuistments as well as new color options for spartan customuization post launch though). They have said forge might get an offline mode, though, and 5's forge and customs ARE coming to PC, so it might get local that way
personally it doesn't bother me too much since I have nobody to play locally with anyways and the gameplay itself is great, but for a lot of people halo is a couch game and it's no suprise it's exclusion angers so many people
>>339232941
Nope, and there never will be.
Pay no mind to this one fucking guy that spams the exact same shitty opinion and tries to get people to like Halo 4 and Halo 5. He also denies that Halo: Reach had any retcons, and is incapable of understanding the definition of a retcon. He's mentally handicapped. He does this in any thread that talks about Halo.
>>339233156
>5 has issues but the MP is great
The game turned into a fucking destiny game inside a halo match at time on most modes
>>339233156
>>339233218
Well, no split screen, no buy.
Also Halo 4 was fun, but it was Skyward Sword tier for me. A game I liked but didn't want to play again.
Also, I'm not a NERD that reads videogame books, so I liked the story in Reach very muchI read other stuff
>>339233218
Wait what retcons does Reach have?
>>339233343
>The game turned into a fucking destiny game inside a halo match at time on most modes
I havnt played destiny, mind explaining what you mean?
>>339233218
>He also denies that Halo: Reach had any retcons, and is incapable of understanding the definition of a retcon.
I've seen multiple people say this because it's true. Do you know the definition of a retcon?
It means something that was once canon isn't canon anymore. For example, Cortana saying in halo 4 she was the only AI she knew about that was made using a human brain is a retcon because all smart AI's are made with human brains
With Reach, everything in TFoR is still canon. It's just there was additional context given for those events.
>>339233447
The game is on the surface in conflicts with the events in The Fall of Reach, but the game also comes with a journal for the limited and legendary edition that explains how those apparent conflicts interact.
>>339233615
Oh Shiggy, if only you could have stayed young forever ;-;
>>339233380
I'm not even shitting on the retcons, I'm just saying they DID happen. That's a fact.
>>339233447
>Halsey found out about the Spartan 3's in First Strike.
>Jorge having custom armor
>Pillar of Autumn some how has enough time to make it back to Reach
>Covenant already on Reach
>Jun no where to be found in Castle Base
>Some Brutes are wearing Power armor after they were stripped of this due to their failure at Harvest
>Elite Zealots no longer gold
>How the Covenant found Reach
>How Cortana found Halo
>Longsword fighters are not flying next to the Pillar of Autumn when it makes it to Halo
>The time frame for Halsey's locations
>>339233540
Except you're fucking wrong, idiot. There is plenty of shit, which I just listed, that is directly fucking changed because of Reach. Literally shit that was said once, and now they're saying something else. No "oh but you didn't KNOW about this part"- literally direct fucking unexplained contradictions.
There were a ton of unfinished zones in Vanilla wow that could only be accessed by special player discovered methods.
One unfinished area was "The Outlands" which was a super early version of Hellfire Peninsula.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTlTRNDLPBQ
>tfw they just threw this out the window for Pikmin 3
>all the bosses in MGR have unique dialogue if you fight them with their boss weapon
>they have UNIQUE unique dialogue if you arent playing New Game+ mode and fight them with their boss weapon
>>339233689
So lots of oversights and fan-fictioning.
Figures.
>>339233689
How did the Covenant discover Reach in the game?
>>339233689
>and now they're saying something else. No "oh but you didn't KNOW about this part"-
That's not a retcon though you dweeb. fiction does this all the fucking time and nobody calls it a retcon, it's called giving fucking additional info.
That's addition, retcons are subtractions and replacements.
>>339233540
First of all, it conflicts Ghost of Onyx not Fall of Reach. Now try again.
>>339233747
How do you fight them with their own weapon without being in NG+?
>>339233747
Mgr? Metal gear rising?
>>339233862
Do you not know what the word "no" means you retarded fucking ape?
>>339233951
So was it a retcon in harry potter when you found out that snape was a double agent and killed dumbldore on his orders?
Because by your retarded as logic that would be
>>339233692
Suprisingly, there were even unused areas in Cataclysm, the expansion that actualized Azeroth.
There was this dandy resort-like place outside of Orgrimmar that was probably intended for the leader of the goblins, but it emained empty throughout the expansion.
Did they ever put something in there? I stopped playing during Cata.
>>339233878
What part of reach conflicts with Ghosts of Onyx?
>>339234062
Oh, you don't know what "no" means.
Let me explain because apparently you're the dumbest person on the fucking planet.
I said, verbatim, that I am NOT talking about parts where they reveal more information. That's why I used the word NO. I clarified very specifically that I was talking about direct fucking unexplained contradictions.
You should probably kill yourself if it took you three different explanations to understand this very simple concept.
>>339234078
yeah there is some hot pools near un goro i think. it has some beach chairs, umbrellas and a goblin theme'd building. been a while since ive been there
Shooting the lake in RE4 will get you killed by the boss in that lake.
>>339234078
Atleast it's not as bad as how Jagex would leave unfinished shit in as props, as well as whole gameplay mechanics then refuse to acknowledge them until years later as "we never got around to it, sorry" briefly on a stream.
>>339234163
>I clarified very specifically that I was talking about direct fucking unexplained contradictions.
But most of the shit that contradicts stuff in HR with tfor isn't unexplained, since the game shipped with a fucking journal explained how they don't contradict shit..
Are you literate?
>>339234163
>>339234062
Stop arguing.
How about this? You're both wrong. Sometimes you just gotta learn to bite your tongue and deal with it.
>max chill Halo discussion bringing up cool hidden stuff
>as soon as Reach and 343 are mentioned it spirals out of control
It's like the quality of the games in thread form
>>339234336
Except he is wrong. We're having a discussion. It isn't even up for debate. I listed like a dozen contradictions that they never follow up on or try to explain in any capacity. He is literally denying reality. Not only that, he is failing to comprehend the English language or how to read it. There is something legitimately wrong with his brain.
In Budokai 3, when you use the "search for energy or ki" option in the map, you usually see that your next fights have energy coming from them, but in the Android-saga, the fights in the map don't have any energy to them
that is because Androids in DBZ-universe don't have any "visible" ki or energy
>>339231664
he has an browser which makes all URLs HTTPS instead of HTTP. HTTPS sites have to have certs, otherwise you can't be sure they are secure.
>>339234337
The arguments and whining in these threads are way worse then the actual games.
>>339224757
I remember a time when you underage shitstains weren't in majority.
>>339234457
Agreed. I fucking hate 343 apologists that try and make everyone enjoy their awful games in these threads. Just let us talk about the good ones in peace.
JUST
What was your favorite sub-plot/ mission in ODST, /v/?
>>339234428
You're both wrong, stop with your autistic rage.
>>339234512
Except you don't because we had pleasant Halo threads for fucking years until like 2010 when it became super trendy to hate Halo and shitpost the threads with garbage nonstop. Stop trying to act like an oldfag.
>>339234512
> proving his point
>>339234428
> I listed like a dozen contradictions that they never follow up on or try to explain in any capacity.
of the points you mentioned...
>Halsey found out about the Spartan 3's in First Strike.
>How Cortana found Halo
>The time frame for Halsey's locations
Are all explained in the journal, much like how snape's alliance was later on
>Jorge having custom armor
>Pillar of Autumn some how has enough time to make it back to Reach
>Jun no where to be found in Castle Base
>Elite Zealots no longer gold
Aren't issues to begin with
>Covenant already on Reach
>How the Covenant found Reach
Are explained in subsquent lore like the data drops.
I don't remember the brute power armor thing in CH, can you clarify there? Also, CH took place 20 fucking years before reach fell, a lot of shit can happen in that time.
>>339234336
I said this in a thread the other day, that when a thread devolves into just two fags arguing with each other, it signals the impending 404.
>>339234580
the city exploration at night was 10/10 but the actual missions were underwhelming
also it hurts my autism that in the missions you take on just as many enemies as the chief does even though you're just a glorified grunt
>>339223456
You can drown guards in MGSV by laying them face down in a water source whilst they are unconscious.
In a similar vein guards will ignore other unconscious guards if they are laying on a bed.
>>339234580Sadie's Story
>>339231664
This site is great. Thanks Anon.MESSAGE TO FAGSHITE AND PARAPLEGIC AND ALL THE OTHER DICKHEADS!
BETTER LUCK THIS TIME! TRY AND REMOVE MORE THAT 20% OF THE
PROTECTION THIS TIME YOU USELESS CUNTS! ISN'T IT TIME YOU STOPPED
PULLING YOUR DICKS AND LEFT YOUR BEDROOMS AND GOT A REAL JOB?
>>339223456
Knew that. He still gives you a blue coin, so I kill him every time.
>>339234717
I wish I was any good at coding or modeling, I totally want to make a full game in the style of the City Exploration
>>339234717
>you take on just as many
Eh, always felt like a little less to me besides the giant ass ambush waves on ONI Alpha Site where you keep getting pushed back.
But you also had slightly less useless AI helping you so I think it balanced out.
>>339234751
;-;
>>339233931
duh.
>>339234580
Speaking of ODST, I don't know if it counts as a hidden thing but the entire game is an allegory for Dante's Divine Comedy. It slaps you over the face with its imagery through the entire game but it only really tells you directly when you actually literally descend to the Data Hive- exactly nine levels underground.
In the original Banjo Kazooie, the notes Motzhand played corresponded with the song playing in the background. In the 360 version, all the notes are exactly the same.
>>339234734
They ignore unconscious guards on a bed? What the hell, that's cool as hell.
You can also go in a box to lessen the flash of a flashbang. Soldiers are more likely to find you if you smell bad.
>>339234892
But the best thing about Sadie's Story?the connection with the main plot and how well it was implemented
>>339234919
>bringing this up without linking to the article
http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/nine-levels-underground/
The site has great halo analysis other then this too
>lore thread
>dissolves into halo lore
>halo lore
>lingering xbots on a japanese image board
>mfw
>>339234598
it is literally impossible for us to both be wrong. This isn't fucking Schrodinger's Retcon. There can't be but also not be the existence of retcons.
>>339234665
>they aren't issues because I say they aren't
good to know that's the extent of your capacity for debate.
>All explained in the journal
Yeah with a giant tablet of salt. You have to assume Halsey is so fucking stupid that in the entirety of Reach, not only is she fine with not having known where one of her Spartans was, but also the fact that a bunch of troops talk to her calling themselves Spartans, and she doesn't figure out until First Strike that MAYBE those guys were S3's? and then doesn't even confirm the programs existence till GoO? That makes Halsey out to be a fucking retard. I'm not going to debate it since technically it's explained, but I hold that it's a shitty explanation.
>Are explained in subsequent lore like the data drops
They are different explanations than what we were originally given. AKA retcons. That's the fucking discussion we're having.
>can you clarify here?
If you know that little about Halo lore I shouldn't have to spoonfeed you. But basically the Brutes got stripped of power armor after Harvest, and this was consistent throughout all the games. They got it back in Halo 3 because the Elites already fucked off from the Covenant, and presumably they needed the Brutes to be at their best. Giving them that all the way back at Reach is fucking stupid and breaks canon.
Also I like how you ignored my complaint about Longsword fighters.
>>339235401
nobody cares anymore, autist.
>>339235448
then leave the thread you daft cunt I don't give a fuck what you do or don't care about
>>339223456
Let's see, from the top of my head I recall...
-Sonya is the name of Ed Boon's sister
-In the atari game of Karateka there's some text hidden in the code that says "Mom and I are one" which has to do with subliminal messages and an experiment in 1985 of how this text reaffirms self steem
-In Banjo Kazooie the pot flowers in mad monster mansion say thank you when you put an egg in them, that is commonly known, however the guy who voiced them which is the game sound compositor had to redo a lot of times the line because nintendo thought he was saying fuck you
-The game Kakuto Chojin uses the same muslim chant that was removed from OoT, which comes from a sound library sample, they ran into some issues because people were assmad at it and the game had to be retired from shelves
-In the wii game of animal crossing (city folk) you get different chinese zodiac shirts depending on the year AND at the end of the year, the game was released around 2008 but you can still get shirts specially made from 2000 to 2008 they stop being handed out on the year 2035
-There's a creepy easter egg that can only be seen in Assassins Creed 2 DLC, after you reunite with Niccolo you can go to the old house of Ezio (the first one where he lived) and if you use your eagle vision in there you can see all the auditore dead family members
>>339235480
I'm not the autist ruining the thread because a guy has a different opinion than mine.
>>339227054
This. The only reason it was considered "great" at the time was because there weren't that many decent console FPS games. If you look up aggregated scores for the XBox version and compare them to the PC version, you'll find the PC version has a much lower score. It was just another average shooter on the PC.
The outdoor areas were fun, but holy shit. I've never played another FPS with such bland, boring, copy-pasted areas. There was this one large, pyramid-shaped room that I saw about 15 times throughout the game. Every time I saw it, all the enemies inside it were in the same place. They didn't even bother to change the enemy layout. Extremely lazy.
>>339235535
It's called discussion you stupid bitch. That's why we're on a board for video game discussion. Hide the fucking posts if you don't like them.
>>339235535
Two people arguing doesn't ruin the thread. Everyone else simply ignores them because they don't care. Stop involving yourself because your autistic ass can't help but get involved in the business of others.
>>339230658
Is that one of the bounty hunts, or just a rare enemy?
>>339234512
>inb4 300 newfags tell you "no we had a general back when the game came out!" while being so new that they don't know we had generals for fucking everything before /vg/
>>339235602
>calling me autistic
so you completely forgot the definition of autism now? Also why not follow your advice and stop getting into other people's business.
>>339235497
>you can see all the auditore dead family members
That's pretty cool for ass creed and all.
>>339233740
To be fair though if they kept making Pikmin games that had constant references to the original maps with their designs it'd eventually put them in a corner
I'm fine with it being just 1+2 since it just means when Olimar goes back he makes sure to land in the places he remembers going to before, but they've changed somewhat since last time
The Pikmin 3 crew crashed so they just ended up somewhere else completely
>>339235690
I'm following your example to prove why it's stupid. I called you autistic because you seem to be completely unaware of basic human interactions, and that you're on /v/ and it's a generic insult.
>>339235031
>>339234734
The Man On Fire can be quickly defeated during the battle in Voices by using a max ranked Stun Arm, Ocelot will make a comment referencing his similar demise in MGS3.
Similarly in The Man On Fire fight Tretij Rebenok can be seen hovering above Then Man On Fire if you use NVGs not unlike which is reminiscent of the player needing to use Thermal Goggles to see Psycho Mantis during his boss fight in MGS1.
The Skulls fight in Code Talker can be totally avoided by sneaking past the Skull Snipers, in doing so the enemy CP will not call in an alert once you reach the mansion and the Skull Snipers will return after you have found Code Talker with a huge hoard of puppet soldiers in tow.
I really wish there were more secrets like this in TPP and GZ.
>>339223782
>Kazuma Jinnouchi
Literally the one thing 343 did right was hiring this man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2FVLt5eBdw
>>339235401
Oh, I know what you are talking about in contact harvest. I thought you meant Maccabeus's troops did something wrong and they were stripped of the armor because of it. You mean how the elites didn't allow brutes to command spaceships and such. That had nothing to do with the power armor
>they aren't issues because I say they aren't
No, because logic dictates it.
Nothing in prior lore prevents Jorge from having customized armor. TFORr doesn't even fucking state all the MK4 suits were identical, just that they were ifrnyivsl in stature and color. There's nothing striclty preventing customization to have gone on susbquently, and there are large timegaps of decades where such things could take place.
Speaking of timegaps, unless I am misremebering tfor, there's one of a number of hours where john is in cyro in the auttumn where it could have dipped back down into the atmosphere, explaining that.
As for jun, again, there's no reason why he HAD to have stuck around castle base. He could have dropped her off then gone somewhere else or stayed hidden.
There's nothing stating all zealots were always gold. Saying that's a retcon is tantamount to saying the armor model changea and slight color changes from game to game is a retcon in itself
>>339226091
Considering the small Koopa actually runs the fuck away from Mario, no he's not retarded.
>>339223456
An Overlooked Detail?
I have prostate cancer and I didn't know until today
>>339234734
I read if you play a recorded shitting sound while in an outhouse, the guards won't investigate inside.
>>339227891
possible that its the model of the enemies and not the dead knight on the ground prop
>>339235967
You ignored my longsword complaint again. Look if you don't even want to discuss this, that's fine, but just say so if that's the case.
>>339236008
Damn anon, wishing the best for you
>>339235821
>I'm following your example to prove why it's stupid.
>s-shit, he's on to me, I'll just throw some bullshit so that I look intelligent and not like a complete dumbass.
>>339233747
Is this for real? Do you have to fight them only with the weapon?
>>339236008
in skyrim there's the town of rorikstead. there aren't any quests there.
the lord of the town is rorik. you can ask him if the town is named after him. he says "Yes, that's right. Look around you. Most of the lands you see are mine. Most of this I purchased while my comrades were fighting in the south, helping the Empire against the Aldmeri Dominion. Back then, nothing would grow here and so the land was worthless. Now, thanks to hard work and the gods' blessings, our farms prosper."
except: if you listen to the bards songs they sing "There once was a hero named Ragnar the Red, who came riding to Whiterun from ole Rorikstead!"
on top of that, there's a book called Holdings of Jarl Gjalund. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Holdings_of_Jarl_Gjalund
it mentions Rorik's Steading. the book is hundreds, maybe thousands of years old. then there's this book from 2nd era http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons. "Nahagliiv - Local tales name him as the dragon buried in the mound west of Rorikstead. No date associated with his death, although almost surely dates to the Dragon War era."
rorik is no great war veteran, he's an immortal being. but what exactly? there aren't many clues, though he has this book in his house http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Spirit_of_the_Daedra
>>339236106it's too far advancedI'm not joking
>>339236008
Hope you pull through, anon.
The main character of The Talos Principle has a map of André Citroën Park on the back of its head which can also be found on the recorders.
People assume that it's a hint to one of Serious Sam 4's locations.
>>339236104
That was an honest mistake on my part both times, I apologize.
You are correct with the longsword thing, though I bungie just probably forgot to add them in and I don't see it as an issue because I don't think it's meant to be canon they suddenly weren't there.
A lot of the exact visuals or troop numbers in the games aren't canon to begin with, i'd say it's something like that, but if you wanna count that as a retcon, sure, go ahead, I'd say that has some validity to it.
>>339233740
What am I supposed to be seeing
>>339236008
you're {spoiler]literally cancer[/spoiler]
>>339236115
I don't see you defending your actions for getting yourself involved in a discussion you had no place in just because you didn't like it.
>>339236289
Come on now, anon.
>>339236206
Don't give up, we're rooting for you still
>>339236289
>>339236008
You will be dead soon.
I hope you shitpost about your experiences on the other side.
>>339236008
Shit, now I'm nervous.do you fap a lot? because I heard fapping a lot supposedly decreases the risk
>>339236206
At least you got to browse dank memes.
>it's been atleast 24 years since Moot put in auto-spoilers and people still don't know
>>339236253
Okay, cool, great, it has retcons then.
I still like the game. It's not my favorite Halo but the armors great, the enemy design and AI is great, the story is pretty good for what it is, and i had fun with it. Frankly I don't know why there being a retcon or two seems bad to you- any franchise that's been around long enough rewrites something or another, and that's okay.
Anyway, sorry for calling you retard/idiot/ape/etc.
>>339228867
Atleast he managed to squeeze overwatch into another fucking thread
>>339236318
come on, black humor is the best humor
if I had terminal cancer I'd much rather have people make light of it instead of the normie "im so sorry" etc. responses
life is an absurd comedy
>>339236235
Also, the reflections on the chrome parts are actually different depending on the level and the section of it you are in.
>>339236386
>I heard fapping a lot supposedly decreases the risk
Man I hope that's true.
>>339236441
whoosh
>>339236203
>thinking neobethesda puts this much thought into writing
it was probably just a half arsed reference to the republic of dave in fallout 3 that wasnt communicated to the other devs
>>339236289
Booty Bay seen from above
