Objectively, what is the worst Overwatch character?
>>339218240
Zarya or Zenyatta
>>339218240
Depends on the situation. But Symmetra overall
Symmetra could not exist and it wouldn't change a thing
Stop using the word objectively wrong. Even if they literally just had lower stats then all the other characters they wouldn't be objectively worse.
>>339218342
>this whole list
Was this taken from fucking bot matches or training mode?
>>339218550
Yes they would
>>339218342
i would not put pharah that low desu
>>339218240
Probably hanzo or zenyatta. Any hero is viable in pubs though, the balance is good enough that it's hard to pick as I've seen players dominate with every class.
D.va
Zarya is a monster on king of the hill maps.
>>339218342
>winston that low
lol comp teams have been running double winston
>>339218647
No, they would have objectively lower stats. Better and worse are inherently subjective.
D.Va and Mercy for having the most annoying fanbase.
d.va
>>339218342
Why does /v/ always have the shittiest fucking tier lists for absolutely everything?
>>339219017
They are based on that certain /v/irgin
>>339218240
Bastion or Mei.
>>339218398
Symmetra is fucking great if you don't suck
Good sentry placement and getting a teleporter in the right spot will literally save games. Her left click is also insanely good once it gets charged
>>339219017
it wouldn't be /v/ if it wasn't shitty
>>339218342
HOW FUCKING RETARDED DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO WRITE THIS LIST
>>339218240
Winston or Zenyatta.
Winston is a tank who isn't tanky enough, and doesn't have the damage or utility to make up for it, and Zenyatta just has other supports in the game (namely Lucio) who do pretty much what he does, but objectively better and with better stats.
Reinheart is the only real tank, the others are bruisers if anything.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10338360
>People actually think winston is bad
He's probably the 3rd most run character in comp.
>>339219310
You talk trash about Winston but D.va has every disability he has but ten times worse. Winston is great and is basically what Winston should be.
>>339219560
>comp is the same as a pub
Winston is good at picking off low HP heroes and at disrupting the other team.
He only works when your team is coordinated and supports him and this doesnt happen in pubs
>>339219594
I think the overall issue is that D.va and Winston are pretty much the exact same character.
Except Winston does it better with a better shield, at the cost of having a low chance of actually killing anything, which isn't the point of his character to begin with.
D.va is more likely to get a kill out of it, but she does the entire disruptor thing a lot worse.
If a tank is there to soak up damage, in a way Winston is the opposite where he can jump into the backline and wreck whoever is doing THAT damage and jump out.
I mean its a ridiculous high jump on low CD, what else are you suppose to do?
>>339219660
Yeah and surely competitive play is a better indication of a characters usefulness since people in pubs don't cooperate and play like complete shitters. People in pubs call Bastion OP for crying out loud.
>>339218336
Fuck you, Zenyatta is my man.But he could use more health.
>>339219773
Dva also has a nuke of an ult that combos well with Zarya and she is also literally unkillable if the player is any good because with a few headshots you get your mech back almost instantly
>>339219902
Too bad she's shit
Poo in the Loo is the worst character in the game. She's a piece of shit design with a piece of shit backstory and a cunty voice.
>>339219773
Winston has slightly lower dps but a 100% aimbot. He has longer fucking effective range too. Yeah he can't outdps tanky strong damage heroes but he'll fuck up every single squishy there is and a few more, aimbot fucks up lucio and others too. His jump has a short cooldown, his head hitbox is smaller than D.va's (and not centered), etc etc.
D.va's robot dies twice as fast, but at least she doesnt' actually die out of it. So I guess the only thing she has going for her is that she doesn't die as easily, and can stay harassing?
>>339218240
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hwKVCpoCa43imjfgAAQdUknjABo8m_TOYvI4KyAsbqQ/edit#gid=63027879
These are the current competitive play match percentages and the current tier list until another one is made.
>>339219552
wow no love for Zenyatta
Genji is the worst. He's basically Tracer except nowhere near as effective. Poor damage output and a shitty ult that is easily dealt with make him a slot better suited for tracer.
>>339219152
unless youre shield crawling, theres no reason to get hit by sym's charged shot
sentrys are pretty weak and she has a lot of counters that are popular characters
getting her ult takes a good while, as does any support aside from lucio i suppose
>>339218342
>Winston D, VA, Zaynetta
>Bad
Their Ults secure the objective and Zenyettas helps like fucking crazy when the whole team is capturing.
>>339219310
>and Zenyatta just has other supports in the game (namely Lucio) who do pretty much what he does, but objectively better and with better stats.
Didn't know Lucio could kill a sniper in 2 hits or completely obliterate a Bastion or a Roadhog.
Oh wait.
MAKE EVERYONE KILL A SNIPER IN 2 HITS OR COMPLETELY OBLITERATE A BASTION OR ROADHOG
>>339219310
Winston is the ultimate anti-sniper cancer hero. A common competitive comp is to have two Winstons constantly leaping into their squishy back line for free mercy/widow frags.
>>339218336
Fuck you, Zarya is my man.
>>339220070
Not surprised, hopefully next patch they'll nerf the fucking huehue and buff based robot Buddha
It'd say hanzo. He's not bad, but widowmaker does sniper better, and his ult is basically just a short area denial unless you have another CC ult (Zarya, reinhardt, etc) to keep people there.
>>339219902
Except Reinhardt can shield his whole team from that ult. Just aim his sheild at it up close.
>>339218894
>need 2 winstons just to be useful
Holy kek anon
>>339218240
Hanzo. gimmicky as fuck alternative to Widow & his ult is not free kills
>>339218342
>>339218240
Winston.
Not necessarily because he's designed poorly, but it just seems so difficult to learn compared to the other characters. Even if it's difficult to learn the ins and outs and subtle stuff, you can kind of do guesswork and play around and do alright with any character. With Winston, you just sort of die and don't contribute to your team most of the time unless you know what you're doing.
>>339218240
I don't play the game but it's one of the black girls because I don't see the point of having two, in particularly as their gimmicks both seem to be a futuristic suit.
>>339218342
>Winston
>Bad
ur a fuckin idiot
>>339218240
Probably D.Va
A mech suit shouldn't be doing that little damage or be that easy to kill dammit!
>>339220296
And D.Va does that same job but better, at least in pubs, and I won't judge heroes by how they are in comp until an actual comp scene develops.
That's like telling me that there should be a Kritzskrieg Medic in every pub because the (nonexistent) comp scene in TF2 pretty much always has one.
So what? the reason for that is because the Kritzkrieg comes online before the traditional medigun, and the comp teams can take advantage of that to teamwipe anyone with just a regular medigun.
In pubs, the teams are so uncoordinated that it doesn't matter, so the more potent effect of the normal Uber is often better. Same in Overwatch: so what if a super-coordinated team can use Winston better? The competitive scene basically doesn't exist, and so all that we have to go on is the pub experience--where D.Va is literally a direct upgrade to Winston so long as both your team and their team are less than perfectly coordinated.
Even though Hanzo sucks I want torim his hairy butt
>>339220892
you can literally solo push a payload and disrupt a whole team in pubs as winston tho. So it is good in comp and pubs.
>>339218342
Lel, this fucking list is written by some scrub.
Zenyatta is by far the best support character in the game. His orb of discord allows him to 1v1 any character that has the misfortune of running into him, meanwhile being able to have a decent heal on any target they please.
>>339218240
so many unlock... only level 6
how many chests did you buy?
>>339220056
I don't really understand why non-professional players even bother with tiers.
Tiers for high skilled players do not apply to normal players.
For normal players, its more-so about what is easy to do well with.
D.VA
>>339221029
Zenyatta is bad as the only support. He's great as a 2nd support. His heals are just not close to good enough to be the only one.
>>339221029
>enemy team has a Widowmaker with half a brain
Sorry about that m8
>>339219152
With her teleport, your team is still dying with a respawn timer. If you go double support, its better to go Lucio and Mercy. The goal is to keep everyone alive and in position
>>339220598
>comp teams also running double McREEE
>needs two to be useful
>"""""""""God Tier"""""""""
>>339221248
I agree. His ult is a game winner, and his healing is nice, does decent damage especially with his orb, but he should not support alone.
>>339221251
>>339221248
>PASS INTO THE IRIS
Now, if your team isn't retarded, you've now won the game. And if you lost, it wasn't Zenyatta's fault.
>>339218342
>mercy over lucio
no
>>339221161
I thought /v/ was good at video games?
>>339221251
Yeah but a lot of times they won't have a widow, about half the time I go widow I immediately get people insulting me and telling me to change class. This happens every single time on attack so I've stopped going widow unless I'm on defense.
>>339221390
>>339221406
Zenyatta's ult is the most game breaking ult there is.
reinhardt
to play him efficiently means holding shield up and doing nothing else
>>339221406
>His heals are fine, his ult does so much healing!
No shit, it's a fucking ult, you only get to use it 6 seconds out of every 180. His healing is pretty crappy overall, but his discord orb gives him some serious utility when theres another support to do the actual healing.
>>339221406
>it's a Trump memer
Oh I thought you were actually being serious
>>339221623
Legitimately retarded. Look at every reaction pic in this thread and then promptly commit suicide.
>b-b-but Trump
>>339221439
Hah, yeah, good one.
If you averaged CSGO players on /v/'s ranking they'd probably be like Silver 5.
>>339221482
>Not mercy ult, the ult that rewards a team that just got their shit pushed in more than one that does well
>The ult that can cause a team that just did great to suddenly be completely out of position and at the mercy of a suddenly revived and at full health/no CD's team with no way to know when it's available
Mercy ult is such bullshit. Nothing gets me more angry than almost team wiping the enemy team and then suddenly being surrounded.
>>339221482
>100 healing a second stops a junkrat or dva
the only thing is ult is good for is stopping death blossom and there's like 10 non ult moves that are better for that
>all this hate for zen
>my favorite
I agree a strong wind could bring on a kill cam, but he Fucking pelts people hard with balls of steel, all while healing (you just have to have los, and that can be much further then both other healers). Discord can seriously clear shit if used correctly, and his ult is amazing for a push.
But he needs a serious buff In wither the health or mobility department.
>>339221439
Considering the majority of /v/ thinks Zen and Sym are bad support heroes legit says it all
>>339219152
Don't get why people still think this is wrong. Symmetra is great, her right click wrecks if you aren't 1v1. If you are using her 1v1 and just run you're an idiot. Getting a POTG isn't hard
>>339221482
Looks exactly like my gf's butt.
>>339221574
You're retarded.
>>339221804
I was in the closed Beta and he was a fucking unstoppable force at 200 health. He made all other supports completely worthless, which is why we has obviously nerfed.
Zenyatta could destroy anyone 1v1. No support should be able to do that.
>>339218240
Haven't we been over this a million times?
>Mei
>Pharah
>Zenyatta
>Genji
>Symmetra
>D.va
All trash.
>>339221876
>Have all 6 turrets spread out over the point
>Tracer blinks in
>BZZZZZZZZZT
>Eliminated Tracer: 100
Such a good feel.
Actual shit character
mei
not really bad but obsolete
hanzo
most unsatisfying character in the game
symmetra
>>339221814
they objectively are, especially zen
but it's not the heroes, it's that mercy is as broken as the TF2 medic, and lucio is even further beyond that
support is broken as a category
>>339221029
>His orb of discord allows him to 1v1 any character that has the misfortune of running into him
>Genji
He reflects and shifts your ass.
>McCree
Do I even need to say it?
>Pharah
Enjoy your direct rocket hit to the face.
>Reaper
You're already dead.
>Solider:76
Maybe, but he will probably just outheal it and rocket your robohole.
>Tracer
Press E to win.
>Bastion
Pray he doesn't notice you.
>Hanzo
Pray he can't aim.
>Junkrat
Fairly easy target.
>Mei
By the time she freezes you, you're already dead. Master of cockblock.
>Tolberone
It's really who gets the drop first. If he's in your face then its all over.
>Widowmaker
Enjoy this being 75% of your deaths in the game.
>D.Va
Shes a free kill.
>Reinhardt
If he is in melee range, enjoy becoming scrap. If hes away form you he most likely has his shield up.
>Roadhog
Easy kill from ranged, but who am I kidding. He was saving that hook just for you.
>Winston
All he has to do is shock you for a literal second and you die.
>Zarya
lol shield off the orb.
>Lucio
Good luck catching him if he isn't a mouth breather.
>Mercy
I hope you can aim at her in the air while her Pharah rockets your anus.
>Symmetra
I don't even know man.
>Zenyatta
Just hope you can aim better than him.
He was only good when his orb didn't require line of sight and he had 200 health.
>>339220056
Competitive scene hasn't been around long enough to have a good tier list. The reason the tier list is what it is right now is because it's all the brain dead characters.
For all we know, the current low tier chars will end up being high tier because they require more than just e>rmb>shift>rmb to play.
>>339220989
>implying
He would probably rim you and then take out his family induced pain by fucking you until you go blind.
Also Zenyatta a best
>>339221908
>playing reinhardt as an offensive character
yeah nah, stay on the objective and block shots, meatbag
>>339221724
Wow someone is defensive :)
>>339221980
>He was only good when his orb didn't require line of sight and he had 200 health.
You mean he was broken. Zenyatta can't be fixed, he's either exceedingly overpowered or worthless. Take your pick.
>>339221990
the game doesn't have anywhere near the comp depth that you seem to think it does
the meta is going to be largely patch dependent, akin to something like league or dota, rather than something that's rarely balanced like CS or TF2
>>339221939
So basically what you're saying is that you're retarded and/or a massive shitter?
>>339221990
>Competitive scene hasn't been around long enough to have a good tier list.
dude this game is shallow as fuck and we already figured it out.
>>339222042
I've got a gun to help you kill yourself. Just ask and I'll be sure to provide it.
You're clearly worthless, so just end your life and nobody will even care. Your parents might even be happy for once in their lives.
>thank god he comitted suicide
>now we don't have to deal with the same of saying he was our child
Pretty fucking embarrassing if you think about it. So, make your parents proud, for once in your lifetime.
>>339218336
>Zenyatta
>he doesn't know about turret placement in defense fucking your shit up
Put them behind a wall you'd have to run past to see them and they instantly kiill anybody dumb enough to come through.
>there are people on this board RIGHT NOW who don't realize how big the Mei meta is
Wow
>>339222091
I'd rather have the orb not needed line of sight.
His healing is dogshit right now.
Who has the worst alt fire in the game?
I'm gonna say Roadhog. Very rarely is the slightly longer range useful except for killing ulting Pharahs if hook is on CD
>>339218240
D.Va.
>fuck all damage even at pointblank range
>slow down when firing
>huge crit hitbox
>ult that's very easy to dodge in coordinated teams
>useless when not in mech
>2 second frontal shield and you can't fire while using it
>>339222270
Post em
>>339222436
Pretty much, Roadhogs hook + shot + melee will kill anything.
If it doesn't, you fucked up and hooked the wrong target.
>>339218956
I think you're thinking of degenerate Junkrat and Roadhog faggots who have no business playing an FPS. Instead they should erp on Gmod or some shit.
>>339222529
>this upset because he died to Martyrdom almost 10 years after COD4 came out
>>339218342
I'm sad that someone spent time making this.
>>339222403
for griefing. mei is off the chain because she is such a shit character
>>339221990
Competitive scene has been around for almost a year now
>>339218240
Zenyatta. He's slow, squishy, and people pick him as a "healer" even though he's the worst one.
>>339222501
hello tank man
I'd say the worst is Genji.
>projectiles are difficult to hit even at close range
>mobility can be fucked up if your camera is angled 1 degree down from center
>awful melee damage despite having a sword
>everyone just baits deflect and then Insta kills you
>worst ultimate in the game, hands down
>>339222626
>when you freeze and before the animation even plays you're already charging icicle for a headshot
>you see the red X
>you burst into treats
>>339218342
>Lucio not God
>Implication that Tracer is even vaguely similar to Scout
Immediately discarded
>>339222759
it's impressive to have the most wrong post in the entire thread, but you fuckin did it champ
D.Va is pretty shit. She is literally just a worse winston, and the only people that constantly defend her are waifufags
>>339218342
>wintston
>bad
Stop trying to pop a shield on the objective for no reason at all. He isn't Reinhardt.
>>339222306
Wrong character bro.
>>339222759
>projectiles are difficult to hit
yeah if you suck
>mobility can be fucked up
yeah if you suck
>awful melee damage
yeah let's make him do more damage even though he has fucking out the ass damage
>everyone just baits deflect
get played
>worst ultimate
GOT ME TO REPLY / 10
>>339222698
>that snipe healing
>that counter ult
>that health-melting discord orb
He's not terrible, but I see how, compared to other healers, he's not so hot.
>>339218342
>this whole list
>>339222489
You shotgun slushy your brains yet? The rest of us are waiting, even your parents.
Don't disappoint them, anon. You've done it constantly before. Make em proud for once in your miserable life.
>I have no idea how to play this character
>THIS IS WHY THEY'RE SHIT LOL XD
I have a 25 kill average and a 90% win rate with D Va. She's unbelievably useful in certain maps and absolutely shit in others.
do any of you use the overwatch subreddit?
there's some really funny plays.
this game is literal crack
i can't stop playing it even if it does have some flaws
>>339222529
>Junkrat and Roadhog lovers are faggots who are degenerate.
>They never played FPS games before.
Yes. You are correct.
>>339218342
>a list made by some TF2 shitter that doesn't realize how well some of the roles can do
A good Hanzo that's surgical with arrow placement can fuck things up way harder than WM and has much more mobility than she does. Plus it's not hard to catch teams off guard with the dragon or just use it to move them off a point.
>>339223002
I'm a Genji main and I think he's bad.
Is only gaem, y u hef to be mad?
>>339223058
post stats / battletag
>>339223056
>the only way that Donald Trump can win is if anyone who disagrees with his memer fanbase kills themselves
Pretty sad tbqhwu(to be quite honest with u)
>>339223196
My little anon cannot possibly be this stupid, can he?
>>339223097
I beat the roadhog was sweating on that potg
d.va is the worst character right now, not a good tank and winston can do what she can better.
>>339223058
Certain characters are fine for certain situations, but if you're a pubshitter then playing three or four characters generally meets all your needs.
I've gotten as high as 38 eliminations with D.va in a single match, but she sucks balls in some maps. For those I'd rather use Pharah or 76 anyways, if you're not a shitter you realize some skill sets and playstyles adapt better to your own than the other way around.
>>339223196
who are you quoting
>>339223305
Nobody is going to argue with you on that, she provides nothing but solo support. Anything she can do, the other tanks do substantially better.
>>339223287
Keep on memeing good sir :)
>>339222460
>useless when not in mech
Literally everyone underestimates her out of her mech and you can easily fuck up whoever destroyed your mech immediately. She has a long range and decent firing rate paired with a small hitbox outside of the mech too. Stop being shit.
>>339218240
Junkrat or Hanzo, probably. Would add Pharah to the list but at least she has fantastic mobility and can get right over top of the objective to shoot rockets.
>Junkrat
His grenades are weak and slow, you pretty much have to randomly lob them down a narrow chokepoint or behind some wall and pray someone on the enemy team is retarded enough to walk into them twice. He can only lay one incredibly obvious bear trap at a time, and needs to be really close when it is triggered to get a kill, making him useless defensively. Slow, low-health ult that can be destroyed by any hero, even squishies
>Hanzo
Widowmaker but shit. Mobility is not good enough to make up for his lack of firepower and bow charge time. Easily taken out by Tracers or Genjis because he has no way of knowing when he's getting flanked, unlike Widowmaker. Most telegraphed and useless ult in the game not even good for area denial because it's over so quickly and easily avoidable.
>>339223305
She can output more damage than Winston if you actually use her well.
>wasted 500 coins on garbage
yay
>>339222918
I always wonder if Genji pickers have ever played any other hero in the offense tree. After trying so hard on a shit hero, you'd go gold in kills just picking McCree everytime
Zenyatta, who really needs mechanic changes or a buff or something.
then Hanzo who is honestly not that useful to the team unless someone hyper-competent has him and even then he's not someone who saves the day much. His ult sucks.
Then Widowmaker because while the shitty netcode does make it easier to headshot people, you hardly ever stand on the objective which makes you overall less useful than someone who is skilled with another offensively oriented hero.
Then D.va who while having the best "Get the fuck off this point" move with her ult is otherwise mostly useless since they nerfed her handgun. She does save the odd payload push however if you got someone who is really fucking good at dropping her mech smack in the middle of a checkpoint.
Everyone else is pretty okay. Zarya's shields really need changed back to the way they were before and buffed rather than this thing where they just completely eat like a single shot and then vanish. As it stands they're only really useful for charging her gun up and even at 100% her gun can't compete with point-blank fan the hammers or Roadhog shotguns.
>>339223478
They should really give you currency per match, it dropping exclusively from boxes is retarded.
>>339223472
Unfortunately, characters like D.Va require a competent team to work with. That is single handedly why she's the worst tank, right now.
>>339223316
Yeah exactly. No character is shit so long as you have two mains for both attacking and defending separately. Maps factor into a character's abilities so much.
>>339218240
Tjorborn or Bastion
They are utter trash and only work vs terrible players.
>>339222759
Genji is really good, but his melee damage and ult could use a buff. His ult is just so risky to use and he needs to play perfectly to be able to 1v1 anyone.
At least when everything goes his way he's really strong, but there are a lot of things that can ruin a Genji's day.
>>339222985
yeah I realized after I wrote it. Ignore me. Symmetra is fucking great on defense though.
>>339223516
>since they nerfed her handgun
Her handgun is still gud, though.
>>339223554
I find her easier to play when there's another tank in the team. If it's a Rienhardt then perfect, but even a Roadhog will do.
>>339223614
>Symmetra
She really needs to be moved to the defense choices. She's not a support character, besides her ult.
>>339221248
But that's literally true for every support other than Lucio, and Mercy does the second support role better than Zenyatta does because she can damage boost and revive the entire team
>>339223572
Good thing everyone is terrible. You can pretty much win every Defence with 6 Tjorborns.
>>339223572
Agreed on Bastion but Torb is solid, can cover 2 areas at once, and provides valuable armor packs for his team
Torbjorn Zenyatta Mei and Dva are all pretty trash tier
>>339223872
>Torbjorn
>trash
Someone doesn't know the true potential of turrets, I see. He's not for everyone though.
>>339223720
>You can pretty much win every Defence with 6 Tjorborns.
My premade stack encountered this several times and we never lost.
If we assume decent players + coordination then 6 tjorbs is a terrible combination.
>>339223305
D.Va is bad, but Zen is much worse. Orbs of Harmony/Discord should have a minimum base time where they are effective out of sight and then require to be in line of sight to keep it going. Harmony's healing is not good enough and Mercy outheals him by a large margin. His damage is decent, but nothing jaw-dropping and he's basically a floating square box who is ridiculously easy to hit.
>>339223472
She out DPSes him for all of one and a half seconds, which is about how long it takes to hold down S and get into mid range where the damage goes from 28 a tick to like 6. Meanwhile, McCree's fan hammer can still bring down a Reaper from full health at midrange about 50% of the time.
It's disgracefully bad that you need to choose between firing and using either of your specials. If she could at least fire while boosting/having the matrix active, it would increase her pressure game tenfold.
>>339223457
her pistol has 17 damage per hit, you aren't helping.
Shocked that nobody mentioned junkrat and that makes me happy
>>339224196
get headshots, completely shred everyone, even mech'd d.vas
>>339219152
>Her left click is also insanely good once it gets charged
I love mowing down Reinhardts with Symmetra. You'd never expect it from such a squishy, defensive support, but she can WRECK SHIT when she's in control.
>>339224196
Thanks, Blizzard.
>>339224234
Because you'd have to be retarded to think he is. Junkrat is an amazing hero, overall.
>>339224234
Junkrat is useful even if smart people destroy his ult easily.
>>339222626
>on the cart push
>cast a wall ahead of the enemy
>whoever they had ready to stop us is now stopped and can't do shit until they break through or the wall goes away
>by that point the cart is up further
>repeat
>somebody gets a team kill with 15 seconds in the match
>team is about to come back in full force to contest
>throw up a wall and now they've got 5 seconds to sit and spin
>toss out the ult so they're frozen right when it breaks
Not only that she's fucking fantastic for separating a healer from their assault class. Can't tell you how many times I've knocked up a wall on a mercy and punched her shit in before the wall came down only to repeat on her buddy.
I'm glad people don't realize how good Mei is. And they probably never will since her role rarely gets her POTG. Not a lot of kills but the distraction and crowd control is what makes her the best.
>>339223572
>Tjorborn
>only work vs terrible players
>>339219310
Zen has the coolest goddamn POTG animations
But there's no way in goddamn you will see a Zen POTG more than a few times in your life.
>>339224053
>countered with 6 junkrats blindly throwing grenades over your wall
>>339224287
>>339224309
>Junkrat
>remotely good
>>339224359
But thats true.
>>339224284
Why would the enemy stack like that? There are so many flanks on that spot. Jesus
>>339224413
If you're playing with shitters, yeah. He's the only support capable of headshots.
He's an absolute beast in terms of offensive support.
>>339224315
Too bad she'll forever be unviable
>>339220892
>Dva
>a good disruptor
I've never seen a Dva do a good job of anything, especially with her massive meaty headbox. I can consistently take down Dva with a fucking Lucio.
on the flipside
what is the best overwatch character for total beginners who've never played this kind of skill-based shooter in their life, only fighting games to serve as a competitive basis
>other team has Torbjorn, Hanzo, and Widowmaker
>my team chooses all short range characters
The worst character is whoever my teammates pick
>>339224461
We didnt even go for junkrats.
There are literally 5 or more heroes that rape tjorborns face.
>>339224596
Soldier 76
>>339224570
Even then, you are mostly good at taking down single opponents flanking your buddies, not multikilling. Even perfectly timed trancendence ults don't seem to actually weigh on play of the game.
>>339218342
McCree is a fantastic hero, but his ult is utter trash against competent players.
>>339224692
>play of the game
Play to win, not to get play of the game. That belongs to the bastion shitter who flanked your team in turret form while you still managed to win.
>>339224596
If you've never played anything shooter-wise in your life, like you've never played or touched CoD or Battlefield, or even TF2, then Soldier 76 is built for you.
That said, all of the heroes are viable to pick up. It's just some of them are harder to play at a competitive level.
>>339224196
It's 14 damage. It's a pretty fast projectile and a decent fire rate with no falloff that can headshot. It sometimes leads to hilarious instances because people are stupid and vastly underestimate how fast it can shred other heroes who don't show an ounce of respect for the weapon and forget that Hana is as thin as a rail and kind of odd to hit the player model of.
>mfw I ejected out of my D.Va and 1v1'd a pocketed McCree by +forwarding him and headshot him to death
>>339224596
Doesn't matter whatsoever. I've never played an FPS online in my life and avoided the genre completely yet I do fine with most characters.
>>339224596
Soldier 76. He's easy to use, but he's also insanely good.
If someone is on screen you can hit them, so shoot. If you get hurt, hit E. Right click on people when they approach or if you can lead them well.
...that's it. If you can shoot straight and hit E when hurt you're at least not a detriment to your team.
>>339224773
Yes, but I was mostly lamenting that I will never ever get to see my cool ass Sunyatta doing his sick as fuck POTG animation.
>>339224719
>It's hig- ughhhh
every time
>>339224196
I never said anything about its damage output but ok.
>>339224803
>Dva
>viable
>>339224904
the worst feel
i just want to hear that glorious line
>>339218240
zenyatta is objectively the worst.
You are forced to either run 2 supports or only use self healers.
>>339224596
Go on the actual website and see which one looks cool.
I picked Mr. HIGH NOON and never looked back.
>>339224563
Notice the position of the cart and the timer. They had one meter left with no one there at 10 seconds left, so they all rushed in to activate Overtime.
After that Reaper killed three of us with his ult, Mercy rezzed in response, two or three enemies came back and we cleaned them off.
The teleporter was only used by one person, but even that helps because it's like a Mercy ult that can be divided and used at any time.
>>339218240
Symmetra as an attacker in Payload
>>339218342
>very popular in SFM
>>339225029
>picking only ONE character
You suck donkey dick.
What are the most satisfying kills?
>Killing anyone 1on1 with zero-suit D.va especially reaper (God, I felt sorry for that guy) or tracer
>Mercy killing Mercy (at the same time unsatisfying because it means your tank isn't doing their job)
>Torby killing Widow
>Junkrat concussion mine into out-of-bounds
>Lucio push out-of-bounds
>Genji Ult reflect
>>339224596
Just pick whoever you like most. Overwatch heroes play very differently one from another, and the one you like the most will probably end up being the one you learn to play the game and git gud with. For me it was D.va, so it can definitely be fucking anyone.
>>339225153
Torbjorn killing anything with that rivet shot, honestly
>PFF
>THWACK
>>339218342
i know she's "bad", but I still like D.Va
learned that her shield eats Hanzo's ultimate if you point it at him as he's firing the arrow
>>339218240
I would say Widowmaker.
I only say this because you actually have to have twitch and prediction skill, and map knowledge in order to be helpful to your team: the skill to power ratio for her is really high. Yet a bunch of people are attracted to playing her despite lacking those skills and end up just being a detriment to their team.
To those who are good in her role can change the tide of battle, but one could also argue that for any character.
I would also say Hanzo for the same reason, but his bow is just as good 10 meters away as 400 and his Ultimate is good at both breaking up the enemy team or killing anyway to close to avoid it; so he is just as dangerous if you assault him.
>>339225080
Symmetra on KoTH maps. Fucking useless!
>>339224814
mcree could kill you in 2 hits, just because they bad doesn't mean d.va is good.
>>339220340
One can hope anon, one can only hope...
>>339225153
>Killing anyone with Genji's reflect
I live for moments like these, it's so satisfying doing it against pretty much every character.
>>339224596
this isn't a fighting game where counter-picking is seen as a scrub move. you're meant to swap heroes depending on the situation. If someone is giving your team trouble, swap to a character that hard counters them.
>>339225319
>the skill to power ratio for her is really high.
Compared to snipers in other games? Not really.
She shits out DPS even if you can't land a headshot to save your life. Her issue is that the game is full of dedicated squishy-hunters like Tracer and Genji.
>>339225153
>Any long-range Widow/Hanzo kill with Pharah
>Any 2v1 with D.va/ZSD.va
>Team wipe with 76
>>339224942
D.Va is viable when you actually pay attention and realize her mech guns are for close range, not long-mid range
>>339225474
The problem being that some characters don't have hard counters like Torb
>>339223097
Holy fuck; beautiful.
>>339225582
Pharah, Tracer, Genji, Junkrat all counter Torb in one way or another.
>>339223707
Shields and shitty turrents make her a support character.
>>339224315
People already know how good Mei is and that's why she's complained about almost non-stop. Your hipster waifu isn''t some special secret that only you know about.
>>339224315
Mei is awful. That you're trying to justify her as good proves you're fighting shitters, most likely squishy scrubs that think they should be able to fight her up close.
>>339225474
That's really helpful. Thanks
Did they make Zenyatta darker? I remember him being a light grey.
>>339225805
A character with that much utility will never be awful.
>>339225873
The "Air" skin is clearly equipped in that image. Are you joking?
>>339218240
I want to say Zenyatta if his orbs still require a line of sight.
>>339219310
>uses fraps
>still looks like he took a picture of his monitor
is this the power of ps4
>>339225929
Classic is highlighted, retard. And the skin only changes the color of his pants.
Mei is fucking terrible if the person just wants to be a dick on your team and ice wall everything in front of you.
>>339225502
>Time wipe with 76
Fuck yeah!
>Double-kill with rifle and rockets
>Tactical visor engaged
>Target rich environment
>Team Kill
Shit's so good.POTG went to our fucking Bastion for an Ult that only killed their Mercy and Roadhog...
I thought everybody playing reaper was edgy 12 year olds, but I tried him recently and it's oddly satisfying to teleport behind someone and shove your two shotguns up their ass
>>339225294
>Beating Mei in a rivet vs icicle duel
Eat shit, ya fat bitch.
>>339225319
Widowmaker has violent retard strength DPS and the hitreg in this game makes landing shots super easy. WM is also forgiving as fuck for a sniper character. Partial charging quickscopes up to 70% safely one-shots Reaper/Mei, and you only need about 55% to take out 200 health classes. 100% charge instakills squishies and if you don't get the kill you can immediately fire again due to the nonexistent cooldown between shots despite being A FUCKING SNIPER RIFLE. Grapple hook gets her out of bad spots where she should rightfully be dead but still gets out with a sliver of health since they made her have 200 health for God knows whatever reason. Spider Mine lets you know who's trying to push a flank route and overall damage over time makes squishies like Tracer and Genji fuck off, and her Ult is literal wall hacks that charges up in a kill and a half. Just having her on the enemy team makes Zen completely unviable.
>>339225371
That's why it's hilarious when that shit happens. It's as embarrassing as a Mercy 1v1ing an actual tank.
>>339218342
Do we need anymore proof at this point that /v/ is full of the kind of people who would pick Torbjorn on offense?
Fucking glue sniffers everywhere.
>>339226029
Everyone using reaper in pubs is 12 year old, they suck dick and they know they do, that's why they play like they're not even listening to Pumped Up Kicks, they gave up.
He's not an easy character to play, but he's really satisfying when you learn him well.
>>339226149
I find it funny that everyone I know who isn't a regular FPS player who is playing Overwatch (because Blizzard) insists that WM is and will be totally fine.
Of course, anyone who has played CS, Quake, TF2 or whatever for any length of time knows that putting a sniper in the game who is that forgiving is a terrible idea. Give it a couple of months and she'll be a nightmare.
>>339221795
>killing the entire team but leaving Mercy alive
>playing well
Pick one, anon.
d.va is trash
>>339226394
I seriously don't even know what they think will happen with WM
she will either get 100 health and have her rifle have a cooldown, and then no one will lay her, or every comp will have at least 2
at least in tf2 you had to fucking get gud with the sniper
>>339226394
She'll be fine, map design kind of fucks her over regardless and some heroes have no trouble killing her or exchanging deaths if things get ugly.
>>339218342
>>339225315
D.Va's shield eats a lot of things, she's great in the backline when defending.
High Noons, Wildhog's ult, Hanzo's ult, Riptires, Reaper's ult, Zaria's ult, Phara's ult and most of Soldier's and Bastions if you point it at them while they are shooting all get eaten which can really fuck an offensive charge.
Probably Tracer's and Mei's ults too but those are harder to catch.
Also her peashooter is pretty good at taking down large targets like Winston and Roadhog so she's pretty useful even if not "good".
>>339223097
>do you go on reddit
no, i'm not a fucking faggot sorry
>>339225707
Turrets you fucking retard.
>>339226362
I told our Reaper to stop attacking the point on his own and his response was, "I just got a triple kill"...didn't fill a single section of the circle.
>mfw he didn't even get play of the game
>>339226679
goddamn this
winston punishes squishies better, has better mobility, and even tho both of their ults make them useless for a short period, winstons gives him more health and a better chance to escape
>>339226362
Yeah as it stands he's a worse Tracer. He is better than her for killing Widows and Hanzos though, since he can teleport to heights.
>>339226029
I finally got on a team where there was no reaper so I could try him out and realized it's a bit harder than it looks. I could never get an Ult off without dying first. I still need to master getting behind people and not being obvious as fuck. Teleporting really changes your options on many maps.
>>339218336
Zarya is actually good on offense.
Zenyatta is the worst.
>>339226735
>map design kind of fucks her over regardless
not really, there are tons of ledges she can hop on to some of which make her really hard to deal with.
>>339226735
>map design
out of the few maps they allow to exist she has massive moblility and plenty of vantage points that a large majority of characters cannot even reach
relying on map design doesn't solve her overpowering problems
>>339218240
I don't know who the worst overwatch character is, but I know the worst players are PCfags. Buncha tryhards
Here is the actual tier list.
>>339226767
>Mei's ults too
can confirm
happened to me
absolute total bullshit
what kind of hero would you like to see next /v/?
Why are the best characters the most boring to play?
>Enemy Symmetra
>Nobody destroys her turrets and she just rips assholes open
>When I play Symmetra
>Everybody can see and blow my turrets even when I try to hide them
I spread them out, I hide them, and still they get destroyed.
>>339218342
Is this a pub tier list? Looks like it.
Comp is very different.
>>339218240
>player level 6
>>339227006
Shaman support that places healing totems and casts voodoo shit.
>>339227081
this
how the fuck?
sometimes the opponent has more than 6 turrets out too
best combo in one gif
