>A Medieval RPG set in actual medieval europe
>A Medieval RPG with no magic or fantasy elements
Will we ever get one? I love medieval settings but hate Tolkien. He killed the genre by bringing in a bunch of bullshit all future writers would blatantly plagiarise. 'Elves' are a staple at this point.
I just want a big open world RPG set in Europe. Why hasn't there been one yet?
How about googling things you idiot, there already is one that's gotten plenty attention here, and in general gaming media.
>>339164258
Crusader Kings 2 is fantastic medieval life sim, and much more of an RPG than most RPG's to boot.
Also, there are a few Mount and Blade mods that go real world.
And what >>339164440 said. There's Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
>>339164258
Darklands you fucking retard.at least for the first part
I guess I'll just ask here
CK2 runs like shit for me, it lags every fucking time it autosaves, which if you're going at fast speed is like every 20 seconds
I even moved the files to the SSD and it still fucking happens, is this a hardware related issue or should I look for a patch or configuration or something
>>339164440
>>339164543
Kingdom Come: Deliverance has shitty voice acting and will never be finished.
>>339164753
It's mostly the engine being trash.
Are you playing on ironman? It gets like 30 times worse there.
Also, you can disable autosaves if it really bothers you, or set it to save less frequently.
>>339164753
>cannot use fucking google
>has to ask for things people already solved before him
and you call yourself master race?
>>339164695
>have to go back to 1992 to find one
Not really a decent argument against the fact there are basically none.
>>339164921
yes it's in ironman
>>339164952
no, I don't call myself meme race
>>339164258
sounds gay and boring, just read a history book if you're a fag. Give me magic and cool shit, please.
>>339165046
>yes it's in ironman
Yeah. That's what's messing things up. Just play normal mode. Don't think there is much of a fix for it apart from just playing on a painfully slow speed. At least last time I checked.
Still find it amusing that I have 200+ hours and still only 2 achievements because ironman is broken.
literally mount and blade
>>339164904
>source: my ass
>>339165025
>I just want a big open world RPG set in Europe. Why hasn't there been one yet?
PROBLEM SOLVED!
It's really not Tolkien's fault if other writers lack imagination.
>>339165446
>calradia
>medieval europe
you wanna try that again, senpai
>>339164258
what are all these countries, where did they go
>>339165551
>download AD1257
>???
>PROFIT
It's simple as that. inb4 it's a mod so it doesn't count lmao
>>339165584
You should play Grand Strategy games and learn your history you dumb fuck
>>339165584
Absorbed and combined. 600 years is a long time.
Tolkien didn't invent elves, they come from mythology.
like dragons.
and as pointed out already, the type of game you are after already exists.
>>339165584
>what are all these countries, where did they go
>>339164258
JRPG in Europe
>>339165551
>implying
>>339164258
Could someone explain the Roman Empire there?
>>339165761
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire
What do they teach in schools nowadays?
>>339165761
It's the Roman Empire, what else needs explaining
>>339165761
The byzantine empire aka the eastern roman empire never called themselves the former or the latter. They were always called the Roman Empire right up to the moment the Ottomans conquered Constantinople in 1453.
see >>339165681
>>339165648
>mfw playing grand strat games made me learn a fuckload about geography which was one of my worst subjects in school
Also. That's why I love them so much. So many times I've gone "Navarra, that's a neat little kingdom. I wonder what their history is."
>>339165761
best be trolling nigger
>>339165551
Yes, it's medieval Europe.
The only difference is the geography.
>>339165761
The Byzantine Empire as it would later be known, was the remnant of the Eastern Roman Empire after the Roman Empire was divided by East and West in the 4th century. After the Western Roman Empire fell to the Goths the Byzantine Empire continued to be known as the Roman Empire or the Romans of the east in their capital of Constantinople (Which was titled by Constantine himself Nova Roma: New Rome) It existed until the 15th century when the Ottoman turks defeated Emperor Constantine 11th and Mehmed the Conqueror entered the Hagia Sophia triumphantly.
>>339165819
>>339165837
>>339165853
>(Eastern)Roman Empire
>Rome isn't part of their territory
Gotta love history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAvJJuv1hvM&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBBUYoAjpLxFkbgFw19CeA_
>>339165853
>>339166010
There exists another history, more absurd than the history of Rome since the time of Tacitus: it is the history of Byzantium. This worthless collection contains nothing but declamations and miracles. It is a disgrace to the human mind.
>>339164258
Darklands, you faggot.
Your father was probably preschool when it got released.
>>339166030
If that's funny to you, you'll get a right kick out of the
>holy
>roman
>empire
>>339166030
If only you knew
>>339166030
Another name for Constantinople was New Rome.
>>339166105
But it's not funny.It's fucking hilarious.
>>339166105
Why was HRE called HRE anyways?
Were they just fanboys who wanted to bank on the name or did they have actual claim to the title?
>>339165734
>Wick
Holy fuck, I have to play this so I can burn it to the ground.
>>339166298
>Were they just fanboys who wanted to bank on the name
Yes.
>>339166298
The Pope said they were the successors to the Romans, and because the Pope said so they were Holy.
>>339166298
(Really) long story short - the idea was to re-form Roman Empire. It didn't work out, but the title was created, so...
>>339166298
It's Germs, Anon. No need to say anything more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
>>339166389
>>339166395
>>339166454
Gotta love history.
>>339166317
Why?
>>339166298
The pope crowned Charlemagne Roman Empire, and then Frederick "Olympic Swimmer" Barbarossa started calling it the Holy Empire to dickwave with the pope, and they just combined them.
>>339165648
>>339165649
>>339165681
Are you guys telling me you have all of those countries memorized?
>>339166615
Yeah, you're telling me you don't?
>>339165648
>Learning history from Swedish DLC simulators
>>339166562
>Being this tier uneducated
Theme park version of history is better than this
>>339166615
Yes. If you play enough GS you'll eventually know them all. Just like people know all 500 Pokemon or however many there are.
>>339166615
Yeah. If you've played 1000+ hours of grand strategy games you come to know the map of Europe quite well.
>>339166615
If you can't tell me why the Kingdoms of Leon, Castille, Galicia & Aragon were important then promptly go fuck yourself
If you can't tell me why the Kingdom of France & the Kingdom of England were important then what the fuck DO you know besides the 4th of July 1776?
>>339166615
But anon, the map is greatly simplified. And there is nothing really hard in knowing basic medieval history from fucking elementry school...... unless your county was back then an empty land roamed by bisons
>>339166724
Before 1157, the realm was merely referred to as the Roman Empire.[21] The term sacrum ("holy", in the sense of "consecrated") in connection with the medieval Roman Empire was used beginning in 1157, under Frederick I Barbarossa ("Holy Empire") – the term was added to reflect Frederick's ambition to dominate Italy and the Papacy;[22] the form "Holy Roman Empire" is attested from 1254 onward.[23]
>>339166728
>>339166770
>If you play games
How about just knowing basic geography of Europe, you uneducated niggers? Literally 90% of those correspond to modern names of given regions. The remaining 10% are Italian cities.
>>339167035
>copying from wikipedia
boy cleetus, ah shore dun' showed heem that ah know mah hiss-tuh-ree!
>>339167081
Why do that when you can play games have have a good time instead?
>>339167035
>Wikipedia
How about you actually educate yourself?
>>339167081
>How about just knowing basic geography of Europe
...Like they just said they do?
What are you angry about?
>>339165819
>>339165837
No it fucking wasn't.
No one respectable actually called it the Roman Empire
Worst fucking meme in history.
>>339166798
>>339166915
Yeah I'm a burger, we never covered this shit we just talked about feudalism and then moved into U.S. history.
>>339167228
t. 'Holy' Roman' 'Emperor'
>>339167156
>>339167207
I'm not angry. It's just Elementry-tier material in my country to know this stuff, so when it's treated almost as arcane knowledge by some people I'm simply baffed.
Bonus points when they claim they've learned that from vidya. when fucking 11 years old are supposed to know most of that.
>>339164258
>He killed the genre
>By inventing the genre in the first place
>>339167228
>No one respectable
You mean butthurt Latins
>>339167319
Not all countries teach useless knowledge in school.
>>339166134
>>339166271
>This meme again
>It was holy at first, most electorates received blessings from the pope. It also included the Vatican at one point.
>It was Roman too, it included most of north italy and had close ties to the Byzantines.
>Yes, it was an Empire. Made huge changes in the crusades and basically unified central Europe.
>>339167250
>we just talked about feudalism and then moved into U.S. history
I'm curious. What exactly burger history classes cover, if you can't just subsitute with national history, as it doesn't start up until late 18th centuryPlease don't tell me history starts for you in 18th century or Age of Discoveries
>>339164258
>Make a peasant character to work my way up
>gonna grind some farming to level up
>fail miserably
>die of starvation and plague
i want a refund
>>339167454
>Germans
>Romans
pick one
>>339167447
>Basic Geography
>Useless
Seriously anon? You gonna try to defend your fundamental lacks in education with such bullshit?
>>339167319
11 year olds learn all the various German states, Kingdoms in Iberia, and Italian provinces?
Your countries education is pretty boss I have to say. In Fifth grade we were still mainly focusing on our own history and current year countries.
>>339167543
>turks
>romans
>pick one
It didn't claim to be ethnically Roman, just that it was its successor in terms of philosophy and government.
>>339167454
This. Fuck you and your dumb frog memes you fucking niggers. You keep posting that stupid shit for more than half a year, because reposting the same stupid fucking symbols
>
>
>
is apparently the height of comedy, amirite? Go and jump off a cliff already.
>>339167228
>No one respectable actually called it the Roman Empire
Apart from everybody who lived in it and everybody else aside from butthurt Franks who wanted to claim that they were the real Romans.
>>339167447
>We don't tech Geo in my country
>Cause it's useless
>>339164258
post some good world maps
>>339167692
>>339167550
This is not basic geography, basic geography would be current country names and geographical position. Knowing the name of regions in foreign countries is completely useless for kids in school.
>>339167603
No, 11 years old are taugh names of different geographical regions around the world, with all those useful for later education pin-pointed. Coincidently, those names (at least from Europe) correspond with currently non-existing countries and other political entities.
>>339167685
>his school still uses geography books from the 1300's
>>339167465
I just remember talking about monarchy, feudalism, technology in the past like how houses were heated back then, stuff like that. I think we talked about the bigger kingdoms like england and france too. To be fair, in high school I could have taken a european history class but I chose U.S. history instead.
>>339167828
>borders this clean
Love this. It's such a great feel.
>>339167834
>Knowing where Lotharingen is or what's the difference between Britain and Brittany is useless for kids in school
>This is not basic geography
>Those are not current names
Son, please stop making an ass out of yourself. We got it, your country neglects education, but don't make a spectacle out of it.
>>339167454
The Pope can call himself the Pontifex Maximus all he wants, he had had as much authority to crown anyone Roman Emperor as I do crowning anyone King of England.
It was not Roman. Unless you consider modern Italians to be Roman as well.
>>339167828
>Those Polonised names
It's all those little details that make this map
>>339168186
My country teaches kids to think, not to memorize useless information.
>>339164258
>RPG
>in a setting where your life is fixed at birth.
>>339164258
If your country is not on this map in the exact same state as it exists today (same name, same borders, etc.), you live in a meme tier made up non-country.
>>339168186
I mean, I agree with Britain and Brittany since it could be confusing, but what is the point in knowing where Lotharingia/Lorraine is?
I mean, when you are already pressed for time and have a hard enough time to even fit in the basic stuff in your lessons why should they go into detail about Lotharingia unless you are French or possibly German?
>>339168460
If your teacher truly taught you to think then the first thing you should have been taught is that you can never know enough.
Don't defend ignorance, that's a horrible thing to do.
>>339167630
turks didnt dominate there until 15th century
>>339167828
>Dussenldorp
>Foyer-d'Homme
>Nuremhora
>Lobek
>Berolinsk
My fucking sides
>>339168514
So, none?
>hating something because everyone copied it
Your mommy needs you to clean your room today, underage little shit. Go tell her you've been posting on a board you aren't allowed to and hopefully you'll lose your computer privileges until you're really old enough to post on 4chan (18 and over) and see how goddamn stupid you really are.
And if you are 18 or over, you're just dumb and probably need to shut your damn mouth about everything you believe until you fucking grow up some more and wise up.
Who let /his/ in?I'll buy you chocolates.
>>339168460
Unfortunately they've forgot to teach you how to gather your knowledge and your own and now you are uneducated trash with no other skills or knowledge than "ability to think".
Which other kids have for granted, while you were "taught" that.
>>339164258
So, Portugal and and maybe Croatia and Serbia?
Pretty sure even they have changed their borders a bit. But those are the closest ones I can think of.
>>339168737
Dude, take a chill pill or something.
>>339168787
So. Yeah, scratch Serbia and Croatia.
Man they have changed way more than I remembered.
>>339168628
I'm not defending ignorance, I know all of these things, I'm just saying there are things more important to teach kids than geography.
Mount&Blade Warband with the Anno domini mod
There you go
>>339168514
HERÓIS DO MAR NOBRE POVO
>>339168565
First, it was an example. Second, when in two years you will be doing history classes about Germany during medieval period, the teacher won't have to waste time to teach you where Lotharingen is. Third, when in another year you will start Geography, you will have basics already covered and things will go smoothly for details. And last, the most important part - because my country favours general education, so after finishing mandatory part of it, everyone is having the exact same knowledge, allowing to easily pick what they actually want to do with themselves, instead being guided entire life by stupid choices done when they were 12 and decided they would rather have more Art, because that would mean having less Math.
In short - different systems, different goals.
>>339168751
Love all that projection, I am definitely more educated than you.
>>339168892
>I'm not defending ignorance
>But kids shouldn't be taught X
>>339168892
By saying that someone shouldn't learn something you are defending ignorance.
>>339168949
He said RPG.
>>339169082
Yes, of course, after all you know how to think! And let me guess - you are also better at eye-balling things, because imperial is more natural?
Seriously, why Americans are so fucking ass-blasted about their god-awful education? What? Is that just a poor's man complex that if they can't afford getting degree, they must justify themselves in front of themselves that "who needs that" and other bullshit that perpetuates ignorance?
>>339169109
>>339169186
>Inb4 samefagging
Too short time skip
>>339169014
Guess your schools spend way more hours in those lessons then mine.
In my school they would have nowhere near the time to go into detail about specific provinces in countries, even during high school geography.
>>339169109
>>339169186
Just because it's good for them to learn doesn't mean there isn't more useful stuff for them to learn.
Should a school spend all the lessons covering 20% of the earth in great detail or 100% of the Earth in less detail?
>>339168975
Remember when we mattered?
A modern day edit would just be sad.
Still want to make a game with Zé Povinho, though.
>>339164258
No I hope they stick to the Tolkien/Dungeons and Dragons concept
>>339168975
>Dejima
>Portugese
Pick one
![Gaius_Caesar_Caligula[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RktQBYS.jpg "Gaius_Caesar_Caligula[1].jpg")
Are there any games that let me appoint a horse as priest and declare war on Neptune?
>>339169109
>>339169186
I agree guys, we should teach everyone everything there is to know. Oh wait, no that's literally impossible.
>>339169235
I am definitely not American, I have no idea where you got that from. You keep insulting me with things that are completely untrue.
>You're not educated!
>You're an American!
>>339169363
>Should school teach or give theme park rides
That's how your question reads. Also, it's not our fault your country has classes cut. How much school hours a week your elementry "students" have? Less than 30?
>>339164904
>I want a highly polished and detailed game that caters to my super specific niche genre.
>>339167543
A lot of Germans were Romans anon, Arminius was one before he betrayed rome for example.
>>339169707
>You're not educated!
>You're an American!
Synonyms to be honest
>>339169437
Only the stuff in red actually belonged to Portugal, Dejima is just there because it was built to accommodate Portuguese traders
>>339169707
Because Americans are the only people on this fucking planet who are absolutely cock-sure about their skills and knowledge, while knowing absolutely nothing and being openly ignorant to knowledge
Which perfectly describes your stance.
>>339169934
It was build to accomodate Dutch - by that time Portugese were shot on sight when getting close to Japan. But at first I was thinking "maybe the green means >We were here first<"
>>339168975
thank you father
>>339169375Volta Salazar e não perdoes estes filhos da puta
>>339169832
Well obviously they should teach, but if we lived in a perfect world I wouldn't be sitting here discussing something so inane on a anonymous image board.
>How much school hours a week your elementry "students" have? Less than 30?
Depends on the grade. But it's around 30 give or take.
>>339164258
>blaming tolkien for being plagiarized
Congratulations, you are retarded.
>>339169957
So. Are you saying you are American?
>>339169957
My "stance" is that I'm sure about my skills and knowledge while knowing nothing? This isn't even a stance, this is just you thinking I'm ignorant, while knowing absolutely nothing about me. I wonder what crazy assumption you'll make about me next.
>>339170212
>If we are not living in perfect world, we shouldn't even try to reach it
The sole fact you consider education a non-essential thing not worth discussion is alone the best proof you are an ignorant idiot. Oh well, if your schooling was that bad, no wonder you are this dull.
But hey, you were taught how to think!
>>339170075
>It was build to accomodate Dutch - by that time Portugese were shot on sight when getting close to Japan.
Nope, wrong order.
>>339164904
The voices till now were temporary, no?
>>339164695
>no magic or fantasy elements
>>339168787
Portugal doesn't have a king anymore, so that changed.
>>339170361
>Guys, we shouldn't teach kids X, they don't need it
>Hey, why are you calling me ignorant! I'm well educated!
>Surely, they didn't teach us anything, because who got time on that, but I was taugh how th think!
I will give you a free pass and and at this. You can respond, if you want, but at this point I'm done.
>>339165065
>just read a history book if you're a fag. Give me magic and cool shit, please.
/v/ in a nutshell
>>339164258
Why is Galicia in Castile but also next to Hungary?
![d+duarte+no+sol[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TPrNvQS.png "d+duarte+no+sol[1].png")
>>339170587
>Portugal doesn't have a king anymore
Heathen
>>339170493
Both of you are right and wrong at the same time. Dejima was ordered for Portugese, but before it was even finished, they were banned from entering Japan at all, due to Christian rebellion and their constant meddling in internal affairs. So in the end, the construction was finished, but for Dutch.
>>339170604
You forgot to make an argument.
>>339170739
Galicia-Galitzia
T. Galican
>>339170779
>That label on the flag
He is a bloody impure bastard
>>339170779
I bet there isn't a day that passes by that that family doesn't wish they were born a century sooner. When they actually had power.
>>339170739
There is Galicia in Poland, too, just not on this map
>>339170416
The fuck are you talking about, of course education is essential, that is not what I've been saying at all, I'm saying in order to properly teach a class of students in a relatively short period of time you need to focus more on the basics and give them a foundation of knowledge. Elementary school is short, it's there to give you an overview so you can later at your own behest choose our own specializations in the subjects you find appropriate and interesting. It's not a question of "education is dump lol", it's a question of appropriate time management.
>>339169225
That´s an RPG
>>339170905
>portuguese aren't allowed because they're christian
>but dutch are
What
>>339165761
The Byzantines were actually just a continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire. Citizens of the Empire referred to themselves as Romans right up until the conquest of Constantinople. How do you play video games and not know this? How did you go to school and not know this? How do you continue to visit 4chan and still not know this?
>>339168460
>My country teaches kids to think, not to memorize useless CIS white meninist information
>I remembered this stupid phrase just as my communist liberal teacher preached to me every day
Top kek
>>339171047
The portugese were militant catholics that immideatly tried to convert a lot of Japs to Catholism. The Dutch didn't business was a lot more important for them than religion
T. Jew of the North Sea
>>339171047
The Dutch were allowed because they were harmless swamp rat cucks, while the Portuguese were too dangerous to keep around ;)
The Nips are still butthurt about us to this day
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2013/05/26/books/book-reviews/the-rarely-if-ever-told-story-of-japanese-sold-as-slaves-by-portuguese-traders/
>>339166010
>triumphantly
Yeah, a hook nosed little hunchback slithering past the city gates after all the fighting has been done sure makes for a triumphant image.
>>339171225
/pol/ is leaking again.
>>339171047
The Dutch didn't constantly try to convert Nobunaga and Hideyoshi to Christianity.
Toku had enough of their shit and decided to try a new trade partnership instead.
>>339171047
It's simple. Portugese came with Jesuits and started convering, while playing politics. Dutch came in with trading goods and were just interested in business. Plus Portugese were Catholic, so a lot of Pope bullshit was also going, while Dutch were Reformed, so they've just didn't care - money was first, second and last priority.
>>339171280
t. Alberto Barbarossa
>>339171280
T. Alberto, still mad the Dutch kicked them from the indies.
>>339166068
I didn't know turk roaches could type. Do you use some sort of hiss to text device?
>>339171443
>yfw swamp jews got their asses kicked by a couple of starving slaves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Macau
Literally can not make this shit up
>>339171280
Oh look, Portugese being butthurt they are no longer revelant.
Also - you seriously wonder why Japanes hate you for helping start few rebellions and making it hard to unite the country?
>>339165853
They called themselves the Empire of the Romans, the Franks called them Empire of the Greeks though.I still consider the Byzantines the Roman Empire.
>>339171587
>Macau could be today civilised place
>Instead, it's just meaningless Christian enclave
>Just like most former Portugese trading ports
>>339169653
Literally CK2
>>339165853
Yea, and the HRE called themselves the Holy Roman Empire and they were wrong as well
The "byzantine empire" is not the fucking Roman Empire, and no respectable historian thinks they are
>>339171587
>Still won the war in the East
Not even mad.
>>339171280
lol without fail in these threads there's always some asshurt portugese shit-talking the Dutch with their envy
>>339171928
Name a couple of them that don't think it is, because a lot of the guys I read think they are.
>>339171957
Anon, think about it - you are this "high and mighty empire". And literally a non-country (Dutch Republic wasn't recognise at that point) kicks your ass all over the world, taking your clay without much effort or forcing you to back up from your positions.
Then look where Netherlands are today and where Portugal is. Instant hemorrhoids
>>339167465
In burgerland highschool world history is typically an ap or honor's class that you have to request to be in.
You generally take World Religions, Econ, US History, then Sociology.
It's pretty fucking shit.
Look no further and join me in longing for this game to come out, OP. Kingdom come: Deliverance will be epic!
>>339171928
>Eastern Roman Empire richest part of the Empire
>Most of the Roman Citizens lived in the Eastern Parts of the Empire
>Most major centres of Religion were in the East
>Most centeres of Study were in the East
>Eastern Bureaucracy was a lot more advanced in the East
>Less Germans in the East
>No enemy invasions in the East
Eastern Rome is true Rome you cunt.
>>339171606
Because the Netherlands is the pinnacle of relevance, right? With a language spoken by a couple dozen people (not even your colonies are willing to speak your drunken gibberish of a """"language"""") and a non-existing culture (seriously, does anything even come to mind when you think of the Netherlands? Drugs and prostitutes, maybe?)?
>>339171943
>the only battles that matter are the ones we happened to win
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Elmina_(1625)
>>339171804
>>339171957
>>339172280
By the way, how's Delft? I'm going to study there next semester, most people I've talked to really liked it there, but it looks like kind of a small-ish city from what I've seen.
>>339172494
We still won the war in the East anon
Delft is a nice city, my father teaches there. What are you going to study? It's quite small yeah, but within 30 minutes by train you are in Amsterdam and in even less time you are in The Hague or Rotterdam.
>>339172494
>Being this fucking butthurt
I'm not even Dutch anon, I'm a fucking Pole. And not even us, Poles, are this salty about loosing our emire or being carved into pieces.
>>339172745
Electrical engineering, although I'm taking mostly the obligatory filler courses there so I've got more time to enjoy the Erasmus life
>>339173028
Losing an empire would require you to have had one in the first place mate
>>339172494
>>339173028
Oh, and I forgot. Poland is also famous for the same shit - winning battles, loosing wars. Nobody cares about victory in field, if you can't fucking secure it with proper treaty.
You should be rather glad you are not just Western Spain.
>>339173136
You were saying?
>>339173303
I assume "Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" means "Polish Empire" in Polish, or am I missing something?
>>339173541
It's a commonwealth comprised of the Kingdom of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland you half-wit
>Tolkien killed the fantasy genre
This is just about the most adorable contrarian opinion I've ever seen.
>>339173706
That was a joke, I was saying it's no Polish Empire, which takes us back to my claim that in order to lose an empire, you must have had one in the first place.
>>339173303
>no more Swedish Empire
>no more Great Power
Feels batman
>>339173541
>>339173829
It was Lithuanian in the same sense Spain is Aragonian, Alberto
>>339173541
In Polish it's known as "Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów", which roughtly translates of "Republic of Two Nations". With Polish king, Polish law, Polish nobility in charge, Polish customs (Lithuanians, at least other than peasants, were Polonised by 16th century) AND Lithuanian clay. Or rather - the clay Lithuania conquered in mid 14th century. Then just minor border adjustments with Muscovity and Ottomans known as wars.
>>339173979
>>339174264
And it's still not an empire, unless you consider present day Spain an empire as well?
>>339173875
What's up with Greece?
>>339169859
>wanting a finished game is demanding it be highly polished
>>339167828
>the Brits stopped this from being reality after WW1
Perfidious Albion at work again.
>>339174305
>It's not empire, because I say so
M'kay, I guess angry Portugese know better. You are of course aware that even including Brazil (not the claimed part, but the actual populated and under control), that was still less clay than the Commonwealth, right?
![2000px-Baarle-Nassau_-_Baarle-Hertog-en.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/I8fLoBy.png "2000px-Baarle-Nassau_-_Baarle-Hertog-en.svg[1].png")
I heard you like borders, so we put borders inside your borders.
>>339164258
>rpg about real life medieval europe
>ammount to nothing in life if you're not bborn into nobility
>if you do, story is pretty obvious
Yeah no you dumb idiot. What you want is more variety in fantasy or you're an uneducated kid who actually thinks life in the feudal ages was either interesting or people had any way to live interesting lives that you read on fantasy books.
>>339168186
Just as your studies focused on Europe, its history and formation US schools focus on the same in North America. The States are roughly comparable in size to continental Europe and have various overlapping subregions and a tangled, albeit short, history.
>>339174928
What is this mess?
>>339171127
the closest my school ever came to romans was ancient greece
>>339169235
US education figures are brought down a particular group. Without this group they are comparable to most western European countries.Guess what group that is
>>339174940
If you would read the entire discussion and not just single post, you would know it was not about "European focus", but part of "regions all over the world".
Surprise surprise, kids in Europe are taught other stuff than what's within their own and neighbourhood nations.
>>339175230
Americans, of course. All of them. There is no question about this, as it's a scientific fact they are all fucking retarded and proud of it.
>>339174940
>>339175230
Brace yourself, butthurt burger joined the thread and will slowly start answering all the posts that cause him anus pain.
![18244850845_330be7107a_z_d[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M4G6ZMZ.jpg "18244850845_330be7107a_z_d[1].jpg")
>>339175050
Baarle Nassau/Hertog.
The borders go straight through people's houses.
Due to both countries having different laws, in restaurants people had to move to a different seat after a certain time because only part of the restaurant was allowed to stay open.
>>339170604
>another europoor buttflustered at America's success
How does it feel when everyone expects you to know English? When foreigners see you and assume you are American because you're white? When every aspect of your country's culture has been dominated by that of America?
You listen to our music, watch our TV and movies, play our video games, buy our clothes, follow our fashions, discuss our politics, monitor our elections, learn our laws, use our slang and eat our food. Everything you do, from teh car you drive to the clothes you wear to the food you eat to the media you consume to the computer you are typing on right now is an homage to America. Thanks for being a good goy!
>>339175552
But... why? I mean I get it, border town, but... this is just fucking stupid.
>>339175717
Before anyone replies seriously, this is a pasta.
>>339175748
Medieval treaties.
>>339164258
I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL!
>>339175717
How does it feel to not even have your own language and using the one of your former colonial master?
>You listen to our music, watch our TV and movies, play our video games, buy our clothes, follow our fashions, discuss our politics, monitor our elections, learn our laws, use our slang and eat our food
Nope, sorry to disappoint you here.
>>339164753
Get the mod that removes India. No reason for it to be there and removing it speeds the game up by so, so much. Hundreds of people simulated down there that affect jack shit everywhere else.
>>339175717
>American
>English language
I rest my case
>>339175304
US students also learn regions all over the world but the main focus is on the US, much as your main focus was on Europe, I'd presume. Or were you also extensively taught about central Asia and sub-saharan Africa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCR8xV7fb5w
you're welcome,op. If you mod it,it's one of the best games ever made,if you don't,it's still really fucking good.
>>339167081
why would I give a fuck about ancient yuropoor maps? get a grip dude
>>339176134
>I'd presume
Then you presume wrong. And yes, I had a normal, well-balanced education. Which means we had entire world covered, not just single fucking country to indoctrinate kids they are living in the best nation under the sun.
>>339164258
>you will never see "Roman Empire" on a contemporary world map ever again
>>339176134
There is a big difference between US history, the history of a single country, and the history of an entire continent, a continent that shaped the world as it is today.
And yes, I did get Asian history.
>>339176248
You learned the history of the entire world along with the various regions and subregions in high school? Impressive, it almost sounds like you're full of shit.
>>339176134
Name me, without googling it, three regions of Burma, at least one island of Africa and single Russian river. And a mountain range in Central Asia if you plese.
I honestly doubt you even know where those places are on the map.
![Flag_map_of_Romania.svg_[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/oYBoX2l.png "Flag_map_of_Romania.svg_[1].png")
>>339176345
>>339176526
>Americans being amazed other countries don't have shit education
After all, there need to be places from where you are buying engineers and specialists who had decent education, so why it's so inbelivable?
And yeah, I've spend entire semester out of six total, learning nothing more than Asian history. The remaining five were divided firmly between "general history", "national history" and when it was time or moment or context for it - history of given world region in the period currently discussed.
So fucking impossible, right?
The sole fact American textbooks for high school are on Elementry-tier should ring you a bell already. But how could you know that?
>>339176349
There is a difference. US history amounts to the history of North America though, which is much larger than Europe and currently much more influential. World history is typically only a year or so in high school while the other years focus on US history divided into a few general time periods.
>>339176587
But anon, he asked for Roman, not Romanian
>>339176824
>I've spend entire semester out of six total, learning nothing more than Asian history.
Damn bro, that's amazing. I'm sure that really helps you gain a skill and produce value in your career.
I'm sure you don't give a shit, it was """"""""""""free""""""""""""
>>339176959
Romanian means Roman.
>>339176943
>It's larger
Yes, wast amount of empty land with nomadic tribes over it. It's like Mongolians arguing about importance of Mongolian history, even if it was relenat for less than a century for the rest of the world.
Seriously, you've gonna push to claim that bigger region = more important? Shit son, then Africa must have the most important history of them all!
>>339176540
I dont know regions in Burma
Madagascar
Volga
Urals
Do you feel better now? I could give you a pop quiz on North and Central America that you would assuredly fail, but what does that prove?
>>339177112
Some Central Americans look south asian
>>339176824
>inbelivable
should have taken an extra semester of English
>>339176345
just wanted to post this
>>339176943
>US history stars in the 16th century
>European history starts thousands of years BC
Yeah, US history is definitely more important.
>>339176979
>Being ignorant uneducated pleb
>Bashing other people for receiving education
>Having anal blast because he has to pay for his education, so he got none
Typical American
And yes, as amazing as it sounds, that helped me to gain an important skill. Namely, I was able to get intermship in the library, since I was taught basics of Chinese literature in the process and educated myself further in the free time and was able to work with ease for my rent while getting my FREE degree in Automatics.
>>339165761
Why did you think Turkey considered in Europe? yeah because of Byzantium.
imo, Thracia should be divided from sandniggerlands and acknowledged as a new nation
![Mongol_Empire_map[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/bbj1BJJ.gif "Mongol_Empire_map[1].gif")
>>339177298
It's only barely in the top 30 of largest empires.
>>339177313
>~500 years of history, 200 as a nation
>more powerful and influential than the entirety of Europe
way to go snowcoon
>>339177112
>Urals
>Central Asia
Well, you at least know about Volga, I'm sincerelly impressed anyway.
>>339177409
Nothing you learned couldn't have been gotten from a library and now you'll spend the rest of your days creating nothing of worth and sucking down taxpayer money to be a professional faggot at a library. Congratulations, hope you retire before the muslims start banning literature besides the Koran.
>>339177468
r u 4 real?
>>339177276
>>339177313
>history of a bunch of serfs (not quite slaves not quite free men)
vs
>the history of the first country to have legitimately free men who have their rights guaranteed by the constitution which was made to restrict government power.
lmao europoors are you EVEN trying?
>>339177518
Misread it, Himalayas instead
>sincerelly
>>339177276
I wonder how many other languages can you speak. But you don't need them, right? Surely, everyone knows English. Not sure what's more amusing - British tourists in Spain unable to communicate with anyone or American tourists anywhere, absolutely unable to communicate with anyone and giving people shits for not knowing American English.
>>339177618
>grammar
>spelling
go back to school
>>339177667
I know you're joking but it's sad that there are people who genuinely think this way.
>>339177461
1206 > 1294
>>339177780Degree in Classical Linguistics. I currently live in Tokyo and speak Spanish, Japanese, some Mandarin, some German and am studying French
All that education but never learned about stereotypes
>>339177667
>>the history of the first country to have legitimately free men who have their rights guaranteed by the constitution which was made to restrict government power.
You mean Switzerland?
Surely, you mean Switzerland
>>339177754
Tian Shan. Or Hindukush if you squint. Other than that, Cental Asia is flat as table.
>>339177780
When two tourists from different countries meet in Hong Kong, what language do they speak? Hint: not yours.
>>339178006
>Here is my anonymous internet claim
DIfferent anon, but you should be seriously more reasonable when writing such stuff
>>339178006
>some Mandarin
Helpful or detrimental?
I hear the Chinese are fucking awful.
>>339167692
I don't have any maps but I have this from my wallpaper folder.
>>339178142
Because you didn't specify details - they probably speak Chinese and are mainlanders on a visit to Hong-Kong. And there is fuckload of other factors to include which means English is also not a sure-fire answer
>>339178171
Chinese as people or as language. If you are native English speaker, then the language is impossible. I'm not bashing, that's well known truth - English native speakers are absolutely unable to hear the difference between si, qi, shi and xi, turning them all into English "sh"
>>339167692
I like silly old maps.
>>339178303
Willful ignorance. You know damn well English is the lingua franca for international travelers.
>>339178171
Depends what you want from it. Working and living in China is horrible. I lived in a city with a high Chinese population back home and like classical literature so I studied Mandarin to be able to read 3 kingdoms. It helped when I started learning Japanese and made kanji much easier. I visited China a couple times but would never live there. Everyone will try to rip you off constantly, there is no honor, contracts mean nothing, and it is one of the dirtiest places imaginable. Some parts of the countryside are nice for a hike though.
>>339178492
More the people.
I know some good people from there but I hear tourists and businessmen are the fucking worst.
>>339178805
Welp, I guess that's it.
