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>"We need a tank"
>"We need a healer"
Why is it always offense players who don't want to switch who say things like that?
If you want something... Do it?
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>>339148949
And the worst part, I feel like they're the kind of people who'll give you shit if you start switching "too much"
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>play as tank
>right in the capture point
>holding off 3 defenders
>think teammates arrive soon
>see all of them standing by the side watchcing me die

just why ?
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>>339148949
>Not wanting to play glorious Reinhardt Tank

It's like they should be purged.
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>>339148949
>Too many snipers
>All of them want to be carried by Reinhardt's shield
>"We need a healer"
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just how team dependent is overwatch? I haven't played it yet, can you carry your team and if so can you do it as any archetype?
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>hold shield up while walking around a corner with a bastion camper
>think fellow soldier and reaper will take the hint
>both running through shield
>they die. shield breakes i die.

we need a healer
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If I'm playing offense 99% of the time I'm gold or silver kills/damage/objective/etc and I know if I switch suddenly no enemies are going to die ever.
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>wanna have fun with Genji
>lose capture point round 1
>"we need a healer!"
>switch to Mercy
>we win 2 rounds
>no commendation

you fuckers, never again
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>>339149837
Almost everyone has lost over half the games because most people cant coordinate for shit.
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>hey guys i'm obviously team leader, elected by you fine people never, so what i say goes i played the game in beta you know i'm kind of an expert so you better listen to what i say or i'll report you fucking idiot i said switch off wtf SWITCH OFF MEI FAGGOT SWITCH PLS SWITCH OFF GOD FUCK YOU REPORTED

shut up, gaylord. no one likes you.
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>>339150207
So it does require coordination to make pushes on choke points and such, but on defense you can get away with less?

Just as I thought.
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>>339148949
Kinda why i hate this game, the community is a bunch of normie crack heads who fell for the marketing and think this is the next call of duty. Im always forced to play support characters so we even have a slight chance at winning while evryone rlse pocks hanzo, soldier 76, and mcree.

Im hoping the game gets better when they all eventually get burnt out in a week
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>>339148949
Pick > Call

If you're to slow you have to bite the bullet.
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>>339150252
You're the cancer that causes losses.
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does overwatch run on struggle PCs?
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>>339150276
>but on defense you can get away with less?
You can get away with just above whatever the attacker's are throwing at you. If they're shit, you only have to be marginally better than shit to win usually.
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>>339148949
>play support all the time (ammo/crowd control, engineer, medic)
>still get the most kills and the highest k/d ratio of all players
Y'all just need to git gud.
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>>339148949

things have always been this way. even in tf2, you'll join a team that has 5 spies or 5 snipers, and theyll be the ones bitching about how we need a heavy or a medic
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>>339150468
Yeah, I play it on an nvidea gtx 760 (yeah I know....)
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>>339150276
>win one round with low effort
>next round voice chat starts
>"hey guys that was nice work. Genji you should flank more, try to walk with hanzo. if we...
>whole team left
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>Join late
>No support
>Everyone else has picked except one guy
>Fucking know this asshole is just waiting for me to pick support so he doesn't have to
>End up going Lucio
>He picks Widowmaker immediately after
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>>339150586
But this isnt a k/d game, its a team based objective game with a mediocre TDM, you are litteraly the cancer we are complaining about
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>enemies are out in the open, firing at us
>hold up shield, expecting team to easily pick them off
>they run away to flank and get killed one at a time

It's come to point where I just go Zenyatta and have fun, rather than trying to save the train wreck of a match.
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>>339148949
well, in an MMORPG's case you'd need to build a brand new character and spend X amount of time to get it to the level you're currently at (especially if you're doing lategame stuff). nobody's gonna say "we'll start the raid in 1 week" then have the party sit there waiting to do the raid just because they needed a tank/healer
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Can't win a game all day. Just shit teams. Not what they pick but they're just fucking awful. Most games I wouldn't know I had a team at all if it wasn't for the kill log reminding me how they die all the fucking time.
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>>339150760
You can't push points without killing people. Don't pretend it's not a k/d game, the difference is snipers never help and often people play short range characters and suicide into the enemy team over and over.
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>>339148949
>pick a character I have only played 5 mins with
>"Woha, dude you suck with that character. Don't pick it again!"
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>>339150783
zen needs at last 15-20% more hp
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>>339150785
We're talking about Overwatch, sempai
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>>339150604
you don't understand, i have a 555m
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>final point of volskaya on offense
>almost fully capped but we're in overtime
>trying to hold off other team as Reinhardt singlehandedly
>finally get overrun by a mccree and a pharah
>in deathcam, watch two of my teammates stand off the point as widowmakers while the overtime clock burns down

Why does it have to be this way every single time
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>>339150760
I'm not talking about memewatch, you jabroni.
Also even in team based objective games a team needs a strong assault to strike through the enemy defense line.

How about you play an actually good team based objective game like Dirty Bomb.
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>>339150927
zen needs at least 50% less damage and his discord orbs shouldn't auto aim
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>>339150858
Ill give you retards suicide, but im implying its anoying when 2 players spawn, and they run twoards a controll point eith 6 people capturing. I spawn and theyre dead, and another retard is on his way to due alone

Didnt mean K/D didnt matter at all but in the long term if you're forced to play as mercy dose it?
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>these queers that take this casual multiplayer shooter so seriously

Seek help.
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I feel like if you solo queue, you shouldn't be matched on partied-up teams

Last match was so sickeningly one sided, and of course the enemy team is gloating about it, because it's a 6 man party of friends
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>>339151029
Jabroni ? Hogan is that you brother?
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>>339151032
Why, so he can be total shit instead of just being hard to use? He's fine the way he is right now
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>>339148949
widowmaker on attack: "we need a healer"
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>>339151108
Everyone thinks that except the people who make games because they know people playing together is good for the game. That's why they give bonus XP and shit as well as easy games.
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>Last person, on a team with no support, picks Hanzo on attack
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>>339151104
>liking losing and wasting time
>jerking off to zootopia porn

Seek help
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>>339151219
>widowmaker ever being helpful

99.9999999% of widowmakers will end up with 3 seconds of objective time because they accidentally walked past it on their path to get more leet headshots.
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>>339150757
What are you bitching at? Just the fact that he stayed around making sure you would have a healer makes him better than most.
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>on attack obviously going no where
>none of our three snipers will switch
PUUUUUUUUBBBBS
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>Be a tank because none of my friends want to.
>Pick Reinhardt because the other members of the team work well with his shield and counters a good number of their picks.
>Shield up and move towards the objective.
>Only character behind it is fucking Mercy who is healing me.
>Tell the rest of my team to get behind my shield.
>They don't and run around, leaving me and Mercy to twiddle our thumbs/die.
>This happens for 3 minutes until our Soldier decides to get behind it, while Mercy left.
>We lose the match while I'm telling everyone to group up behind my fucking shield instead of splitting up and getting picked off.

I haven't picked up the game since and I'm not sure I want to. It feels like I'm playing with fucking randoms, but at least randoms get behind my shield half the time.
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>>339150757
>>339151018
>>339151219
>>339151294
>>339150334
>>339150745
>>339151241

are sniper-only players becoming the new cancerous meme?
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This game would be better if the only badges that existed were for objective time, objective kills, damage blocked, and healing. Instead eliminations/damage are the first stats that everyone sees.

Even I'm guilty of this, I see that I'm not killing anyone as a tank and I'm like "well fuck, my team isn't killing anyone either, why the fuck am I playing boring reinhardt then?"
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>>339151241
Hanzo is at least better than Widow on attack, actually can push with ult etc.
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>>339151145
I'm not Hogan but I'm still your bro, r-right?
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>>339151461
"New"? have you ever played fps before? Snipers are shit in pretty much every single game except counter-strike, and only because cs is old as fuck so people know to do objectives, plus snipers can actually make big plays in that game. Every other fps ever with a team, snipers are gonna be cancer.
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>>339148949
>play 76 when on shitter teams because he can at least keep himself alive and do good damage if you can aim for shit
>solo points fairly often because enemies only come one at a time
>never get help because our requisite two widowmakers, hanzo, and genji are all off in different corners doing nothing
Sometimes I get lucky and the last slot is a Mercy who glues herself to my ass.
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>>339151461
But I main riadhog and mercy...
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>>339151461
I guess? Maybe? Sniper is just a really skill dependent niche and so many people who want to look like big dick cool guys and land all the game winning headshots are complete fucking shit garbage at aiming but are in constant denial about it so they never try anything else
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>>339151571
widowmaker nerf when?
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>>339151618
76 is a team carrying machine. When you've got a team of dumb fucks, the jack of all trades is god.
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I switch between zenyatta and genji as needed. If they make a robot tank i might do that (reinhardt isnt a robot right)

Robot life
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>>339151012
turn off shadows and shaders and shit and the game runs fine. i get 60 fps on worse specs than a 555
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>>339149889
This shit drives me up the wall and beyond while playing Reinhardt.

>pushing in with my shield up
>sniper looking down on us
>expect people pushing with me to attack her
>they walk THROUGH THE SHIELD
>get instakilled by sniper

Holy fucking SHIT
IT MAKES ME MAD
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>>339151441
Stop being a cuck and worrying about team comp worry about what you can do to win.
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>they play with random people instead of at least three friends

you deserve everything you get
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>>339151725
Sorry to break your robo bubble, but Genji is a cyborg, not a full fledged robutt.
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>>339151725
There's a robot in the pipes that dual wields swords, he's probably gonna be support though.
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>>339151730
This happens with me every round too, it's pretty much put me off playing reinhardt
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It's not even been a week and people already start insulting each other in the chat. This game seriously attracts the worst communities of TF2. I've seen people memeing each other to death.

In a month this game will be as toxic as other ASSFAGGOTS
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>>339151813
Yeah but hes zenyattas disciple so it works out. I just plain dont enjoy bastion but i need more robots
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>>339151805
>having friends
>>>/facebook/
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>>339151937
Agreed, Bastion is so shit to play.
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>>339151946
That's where we coordinate our play sessions bud :)
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>>339151890
It's your typical blizzard userbase.
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>join game, pick pharah
>another guy joins, also picks pharah
>two guys join and pick tracer, another reaper, a hanzo fits the last slot
>other pharah pipes up "okay this isn't going to work" and switches to lucio
>i switch to reinhardt because fuck if i was going to do much work with pharah
>lucio gives me a <3 and we stomp the enemy team in short order, despite both tracers running ahead of my shield every 5 seconds

putting up your shield, throwing fire and hipchecking people is a lot more fun than i thought it would be
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>>339151890
I've already insulted a few people. Mostly snipers who refuse to switch.

>playing soldier, team has reinhardt/lucio/junkrat
>other 2 faggots are of course widowshitters
>"widowmakers, can you please switch, we need you on the point"
>no response
>say in voice "Widows, we really need you to help us push"
>nothing
>end up losing
>end of game chat random people: "GG, GG, GG"
>end of game chat me: "no, wasn't a good game, our widowmakers wouldn't switch and help us win"
>one of the widowfaggots actually says "shut the fuck up"

Fuck those fucking niggers.
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>>339151691
I usually do different pucks to attempt carries depending on mode/position
>76 on off/def points
>Lucio on KotH
>Mei on payload defense
>Roadhog on payload offense
I could put Bastion in there for more scrub stomping, but I don't like his lack of versatility and slow healing.
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>>339151890
I've been playing since beta and i've seen salty people only 3 times.
Because of a loss, the other time because of Bastion, the last time because of torbjorn.
People are still rather quiet.
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>>339149889
>>339151730
fucking this shit. Walk in front of choke point, shield quickly melting to bastion, everyone is running around doing fuck knows what.
They sometimes get the fucking point when you E the bastion, but even then, it's rare.
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>>339152060
Report anyone who uses offensive language for maximum salt.
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>>339148949
>play as Mercy
>rest of the team goes offense when we are attacker
>tell them that atealst one of them could switch to a tank
>"why don't you switch yourself!"
Yeah sure, if you go support then you piece of fucking filth.
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>>339152051
a reinhardt and lucio are a must for most payload maps, and winston and lucio a must for capture.
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>>339152069
Lucky you, I get underage faggots raging in chat constantly as if they're the only asset to the team.
>OMG U FUCKING FAGGOTS SUCK AT THIS GAME KILL URSELF!
>plays widowmaker and ignores the objectives
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>>339152061
I generally play raper in koth, soldier on offense, and mccree on defense. I'll go roadhog if we have no tank on defense or reinhardt if I absolutely have to cause the team is being cancer.
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>>339148949
it's their way of saying "carry my shit, I need someone to make me immune to damage so I can almost kill someone sometimes"
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>players bullying me
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>>339148949
>playing solo que with random shitter
>suprised that they are shitters
LEL
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>>339152027
It's unholy. People throw a fit when they are told to switch characters and persist on playing who they locked in as. I'm happy that rounds don't last as long as they do in ASSFAGGOTS but having uncooperative team mates really is a plague. Today I met a guy who got so mad he picked Mei and used her wall to split the own team whenever there was a fight. He continued his "trolling" for three games
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>>339148949
I once was playing Widow, had 4 golds and someone told me to switch to something more useful.

People are retarded.
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>>339152061
bastion is good for caapture points, that is his only use, he can wreck a reinhart shield to stop the push
like anyone actually stays behind reihart
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>>339149889
When this happens I switch to an Offense or Defense.

Some teams aren't worth tanking for/supporting
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>>339151546
No
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>>339151890
>>339152027
>>339152060
The Overwatch community will turn toxic. There are no consequences for people so they will write what they want. And they'll play how they want. You can do nothing to prevent a destructive behavior.
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>>339148949
>I have bought a game, and I want to play it as I please
>No, You can't!!

because fuck u.
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>>339151730
As a dedicated Mercy player, seeing exactly what you mentioned happened is why I only trust Reinhardt players and will only follow them around.

I hope that makes you feel a little better.
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>>339152327
>B-BUT MUH MEDALS

typical widowshitter
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>>339152439
>u
You little kids should try to be less obvious.
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>>339152204
>I generally play raper in koth, soldier on offense, and mccree on defense
tht is ok but the thing is you often get put with 3 other people who want to do the same, a person who wants to be a camping sniper and someone who wants to be hanzo just for his ult to get potg.

get fukin rekt
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>get a decent team comp
>reinhardt/tracer/whatever the fuck
>instead of shielding everyone, reinhardt charges in, tracer follows
>die almost instantly

Jesus fucking christ.
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>>339152327
>caring about medals
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>tfw playing offense as Hanzo
>go into medium/close range and fuck people up
Hanzo players that stay at long range trying to pick people of behind a corner are fucking shitters, he's really strong at close range if you can aim and know how to use melee.
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>>339152439
I don't think you understand OP's point.

>>339152327
>Caring about medals
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>>339152072
>playing any long range character
>lane denial
>Rein walks over
>oh what a nice guy now I can safely...
>he stands right on top of me and shields
>I move to see what I'm doing
>he keeps blocking me
>die to Symmetra balls I couldn't see coming
>see him eat two more on kill cam and die
>Rein: "Thanks!"
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>>339152453
Yeah, you're exactly that type of retard.

>gold objective time
>being bitched at by a shitter

kek
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>>339151890
This, it is already starting to get to me.

>level 30+ player, expect he knows his shit
>we need a tank, he hasn't picked, so he goes Tracer
>don't beat around the bush, tell him he should have gone tank
>he doesn't reply and proceeds to die constantly
>we carry on anyway
>late game, he is switching to the complete opposite of what we need, goes so far to cost us the game right when we could have won
>ask him why he did this, no harsh words
>"because your mom told me to lol"

I kid you not.
This playerbase is only going to get worse.
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>Entire team gets stopped by one Torbjorn with his turret in a perfect spot for Junkrat to destroy it
>Two Junkrats on attack don't do shit
Should I stop hoping people actually do their jobs?
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>>339152327
You are not a team player, are you?
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>tfw always play as healer of some variant because I hate not having one, and know that everyone feels the same way

fucking no one ever wants to be support. It's pretty fun.
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>ranked comes out
>everyone has to queue up for roles
>retard offense and "defense" players have 20 queue times
>I have 2 second queue times because I exclusively play Mercy and Lucio

Feels fucking good
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>>339152327
>had 4 golds
you do know that the medals are based on whether you did better that YOUR OWN AVERAGE you moronic cock muncher
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>>339151672
>Sniper is just a really skill dependent niche
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>Team comp is fucking awful, only support is Zenyetta who isnt doing anything
>Switch to Lucio in a desperate attempt to salvage the game
>It doesn't make a difference because we have 2 Snipers and Reaper is our only offensive hero on Attack
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The obnoxious know-it-all shitters are worse than the retarded kiddy shitters tbqh.
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>>339148949
This situation can't have existed without you also picking a damage role and sticking with it despite there being 5 others in the same role. It's not only being just as much a shitter, but you had to go and bitch about it on a chinese image board.
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>>339148949

Every second match is

>be healer
>no tank
>we lose

and i have the choice of
>be tank
>no healer
>we lose

Thanks dps.
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>>339152060
Yeah you're a faggot
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>>339152693
No, gold means you did that particular thing better than your entire team.
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>ilios
>team gets raped by bastion
>tell our tracer to Q that bastard
>5 minutes pass
>team continues to run into bastion like retards
>reinhardt and me try to prevent all the damge as I was healing him
>tell tracer to finish that bastion off already
>no response
>see her trying to cross a gap on top of the monuments
>boosts into the sea
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its your own fault for playing solo queue. of course youre going to get matched with that guy straight out of LoL who flames all the time and that CoD kid who blames everything on his team.

i didnt realize how bad it really was until i made a group with five other people. completely different game.
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>>339152638
>Always play support
>"I want to have fun and DPS for once!"
>No one picks support, instantly lock their Handsoap/Windowlicker/Genji

k
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>>339152693
you know you're retarded, right?
medals are based on your team.
So gold medal in dmg means you did the most dmg from your team.
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>>339152693
That's records.
Medals are how well you did in that category compared to your team mates in that match.
So gold means you are first on elims, damage, healing, etc.
Don't trust me on it, go play a match as support and click a damaged ally once and watch as you get a gold for 50 healing.
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>>339150252
>hey guys i'm obviously team leader, elected by you fine people never, so what i say goes i played the game in beta you know i'm kind of an expert so you better listen to what i say or i'll report you fucking idiot i said switch off wtf SWITCH OFF MEI FAGGOT SWITCH PLS SWITCH OFF GOD FUCK YOU REPORTED P.S. Check out my stream at twitch.com/thatgamerbinx
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>>339151461

>new

casual kiddies have always been the reason snipers exist, and all new shooters of any type make sure they have good, easy to use snipers preferably with wallhack with them to make sure CSGO kiddies can come in and "dominate" etc
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Insta locked Hanzo in every game.
What's with this faggy archer that attracts the worst of the worst
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1) Just pick what you want and let them complain
2) Leave game
3) Don't try to develop teamwork with randos it is a futile endeavour, play with your friends
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>>339153006
The worst part is that they all play him wrong, standing at long range shooting arrows behind a fucking corner doing literally nothing to help the team.
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Now I know why in TF2 the characters spam the "get on the point/cart" line, because so many people are too braindead to realize that's what they need to do in that gametype.
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>>339150252
>>339152936


Honestly - if someone is willing to take command, I'll follow it.

A team with mediocre direction given by #someguy is still better than the directionless shitfest you people make out of this game
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>>339152693
That's not right. It's how you did on your team compared to your teammates. If a fucking sniper has more objective kills and damage than the rest of the team, what the fuck are THEY doing?

That said, generally snipers are worthless because they have the situation awareness of what's coming down their tunnel vision. They also think they're exempt from participating in OT pushes.
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>>339152613
that doesn't change the fact that you could have had that same time on the objective but as an actually useful character and done way more for the team
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>>339152618
i'm a console fag and actually the playerbase is pretty good on PS4, most people do not talk in the chat, I only talk to give pointers, then I have meet loads of people getting into 6 man groups with mic, because that is what you need, and we clean up.
I think it will probably last longer on console too other that the dedicated blizzard PC fags
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>>339153006
Weebs, dragons, "hard 2 play" crowd, sniper faggots, parkour.
All terrible communities coalesce into one giga shitbeast.
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>playing zaraya
>phara, reaper, junkrat on team
>"tell me when your ult is ready and I'll pop mine."
>no one ever mentions when it's ready, they just pop them with no warning and no coordination

JUST HIT C AND MOVE YOUR MOUSE DOWN
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>be the only Junkrat (or other dps)
>wreck shit
>two other teammates switch to junkrat
>we lose

This happens so often it's starting to get ridiculous. What the fuck is up with people not understanding team composition?

Also where THE FUCK is ranked mode in this game? I'm already tired of playing with people who think Reinhardt is a ranged hero
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WAIT
You can report people? How?
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>>339152441
you're a saint
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>>339153209
Ranked is coming in 2-3 weeks.

>>339153234
Go to recent players, right click the person, report.
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>playing defense
>team consists of me (reinhardt), torbyorn, tracer, mcree and junkrat
>obvious lack of a healer, fortunately the 6th is joining
>inevitably picks reaper
>presumably to show off the epic skin he just unlocked
>whines the entire way through because he keeps dying as a result of doing retarded shit like tp'ing right in front of them
>we just manage to win, barely
>"GG EZ kappa"
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Is there a spreadsheet with players from /v/? Would be nice to have. I'll make one if there isn't one.
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>>339153078
honestly if I see my team picking terrible shit, I tend to take a tank or a healer, and I try to be friendly as fuck.
If I want them to switch, I suggest that they switch, trying to explain why.
Oddly enough it works quite often.
People are way more cooperative when you're trying to be an actually nice person.
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Is this game worth £30?
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>It's a "Your Genji cant do its one fucking job of killing off healers, snipers and bastion while the enemies Genji is Jetsream Sam" episode
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>>339152638
No one really enjoys being a cuck but then there are people like you
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>>339150334
>mfw literally got home last night from work, snorted cocaine and played this game for 2hours
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>>339153393
I really can't tell you because it is heavily dependent on your preference. If you like MOBAs, and team shooters, etc... You'll probs like it.

>>339153456
That's about the answer I'd expect from /v/. never change.
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>playing a game online witch strangers
>complaining when they suck
get enough friends to form a squad or don't play at all
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Doesn't matter if you don't pick tank or healer because your team is probably going to throw themselves at enemy team like an uncoordinated mess 9 times out of 10.
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>>339153306
did you know /vg/ exists? obviously not, or you would have seen the first link in the overwatch OP.
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>>339152638
>finally play a game where I prefer playing medics and supports
>it's Evolve
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>people are surprised the community is shit
>in an online game
>online FPS
>online FPS with classes

Is this your first online game or what
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>>339153425
>Your Genji cant do its one fucking job of killing off healers, snipers and bastion
>killing off healers, snipers and bastion
>healers, snipers and bastion
I know my role as a genji, but I hate it when fuckers think that I'm supposed to singlehandedly wipe half of their team.
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>>339148949
A big part of me wants them to limit it to just one hero per team. So at least they can try and force variety. And I stop seeing my team filling up with all Widomaker/Hanzo
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>>339153660
no one is surprised, were just venting here
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>>339148949
Because they're busy doing something else
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>>339153660
Not surprised
Just /v/enting
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>>339149375
>Standing behind a Reinhardt as Pilot D.VA
>He gets distracted by a butterfly or something and turns 180 degrees
>Die

Fucking scrubs
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>>339148949
At least attackers contribute something sometimes
Widowmakers Hanzos and Meis need to fucking kill themselves
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>>339153302
lol
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>>339153710
they'll probably make that a brawl where both teams can only have unique characters for 12 total. Im calling that
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>>339152591
but he cant block symettra balls
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>>339153856
>Mei
>useless
unless she blocks you with a wall in a room full of enemies Meis are often killing machines
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>>339151890
EU is awful, US are bros
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>>339149375
Everytime

I just had a match as Lucio on Road 66 on defense. I was dancing on the cart and was surrounded by the whole enemy team which tried to hit me.

I was on there for like 1 1/2 minutes waiting for my team to arrive, but they never came
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so what's the right thing to do in pubs:
>suck it up and play tank/heal support
or
>play what you actually want to play, knowing full well that you're going to lose, and hope your team learns from the loss (protip: they won't learn shit)
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>>339152898
eating shit is fun with 5 people, this argument is retarded
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>>339151108
>>339151805
>>339153572
>social retards on v making friends
lol
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>>339153710
nahh, it's a bad idea, everyone will start insta locking into shit because they're afraid to lose it, and it will make them feel like since they locked in first, they deserve that spot.
Also you're still going to have 2 sniper teams, so it's not going to help that much.
ALSO, that would make fun compositions impossible.

>Pick 6 tracers, rush point, defenders don't know what the fuck to do.
>Take first point by sheer surprise
>Lose game because we only go gimmicky comps
>Was fun as fuck,
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>Play zenyatta
>Keeping team alive
>Discording opponents
>Team is getting fucked by a reaper ult
>Pop TRANQUILITY
>They don't seem to realise they are getting healed
>They continue to run and hide from DIE DIE DIE
>I'm left alone with the reaper
>Meatshot
>Dead
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>>339153937
the right thing to do is stop playing pubs
desu I have no idea how people can have fun there
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>>339153937
if youre not in a group, do >>339153021
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>doing an in game raid to fight a boss
>boss requires heavy DPS, some weird niche roles that last a short period, and a good dedicated tank
>person hosting the team takes a DPS role and refuses to step up and do something more difficult

Colossal faggotry.
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>>339153956
good to know you never played in a group
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>>339149375
>2 sniper standing somewhere in the back
>1 tracer pushing alone and dying the whole time
>mercy buffing a widowmaker in the back
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>>339149375
Because you're not tanking correctly.

For real though, that's what one of the randos told me. I swear, offense players are such cowards. They're pussyfooting the edges of the Capture Point area, not the point itself. And there I am, GLORIOUS REINHARDT, making advances toward the point with no one following my lead.

>inb4 you didn't ping to cap the point
I did, but they were COWARDS!
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>>339149434
>fight a Mei
>she ice blocks
>most Meis are shitty and wait the full duration
>time my charge to hit Mei just as the freeze ends
>pin her against a wall and instantly kill her

Reinhardt is the fucking beast
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>>339152816
i honestly have nothing to add.
this is perfect
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>>339153937
>find a tank/healer that you like.
>Pick one.
>try nicely asking for someone to pick the other role
>if someone does, thank them and have a good game
>if noone picks, choose whatever the fuck you want and just play
>Extra points if you pick mei and block people in with enemies
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>>339153374

For the record "taking command" =/= bitching at people to do things

Barking in
>you should switch

is different to someone willing to coordinate the team
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>Pick Reinhardt because the team needs a tank
>Approaching the point with the enemy team going ham on my shields
>Notice my team isn't even behind me
>They're all scattered everywhere and doing jackshit
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I have to say for once I'm jelly of murricans
Considering I'm pretty sure most people in my team literally don't speak english, having most of your players speak the same language should help...
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>"wtf why r u mei on attack?? ur gonna make us lose" from a Reaper at the beginning of the match
>gold medals all over the place, lead the team to victory pushing the payload and dropping ice walls in front of the enemy bastions or blocking off the hallways they're coming from, manage a quad-kill with a lucky Blizzard when enemy stacked up to try and hold us back
>whines about my getting play of the game and leaves

Sorry I styled over your DIE DIE DIE m8
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>Be zenyatta
>Sitting behind a reinhardt with my heal on him and spamming balls/discord through his shield
>He decides to try to charge into the 5 opponents coming at us
>Gets destroyed
>150 health zenyatta left all alone cause this moron wanted an ebin kill
>Alt-F4
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>>339148949
>Have two Soldier 76s on your team
>Refuse to stand behind Reindhart's shield
>Start shouting out they need a healer
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>vanilla WoW
>"LF1M deadmines need tank"
>shift-click name
>warrior
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Genji's a legit character but holy fuck, everyone who plays him can choke on a thousand dicks.
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>>339148949
For the ridiculous amount of handicaps Pharah has, there's no fucking payoff. Aim at people's feet or around corners? You won't even fucking scratch the enemy. Your rocket, which is probably the slowest weapon in the game by the way, barely does any better on a direct hit either. Oh and you have movement ability that makes it 100x easier for enemies to completely rape you and a completely useless projectile that hardly even knocks enemies back. To top it off her survivability is second worst to Zenyatta, but at least fucking Zenyatta can compensate for his low health.
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>>339154306
All I'm saying is that you can coordinate the team by being friendly instead of trying to tell them how you know better. That usually just pisses people off.
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>>339149889
>Playing as Mercy
>Pinned down by Bastion and Snipers
>Reinhardt puts up his shield
>Solider 76 pop ult
>Supercharge him
>Everything goes perfectly
>TEAM KILL
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>>339148949

>playing dota
>jakiro/shadow shaman players refuse to support
>"NO I SPLIT PUSH"
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>tfw using Winston's ult to fling enemies into the sea by that one control point in Illois
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>>339152694
So being able to actually hit things and not repeatedly missing is something new players can easily do? I'm confused on what the joke is here. My point was that being able to be useful as a sniper requires that you be good at clicking on things accurately.
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>on defence
>team is set, only need a tank
>"yo someone go tank please"
>they go d.va
WHY
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>>339154662
Playing mercy is hell when your team is uncoordinated
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>>339154552
surprise people from above

or just stay low. For some reason every Pharah thinks they're too good to stand behind a Reinhardt, then they run straight at the other team, fly up, get shot and bitch about it.
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>>339154552
Everything you just said is because you are bad. Pharah in the hands of skilled players can be amazing.
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I have geniunely never got a kill with winstons ult.

Why the fuck does he knock them miles away while in melee mode? Why does it do such shit damage? Why does it force first person so I constantly lose track of people?
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>>339148949
>Tank ask for heals
>Healer ask for tanks
>I switch
LETS FUCK SHIT UP SENPAI
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>defense map
NO CONSTRUCTOR
NO CONSTRUCTOR
NO CONSTRUCTOR

guess who i pick every defense game
tip: he is Swedish, he is short, he has beard
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>>339154718
sniper is for people with low reaction times and good internet
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>>339154719
Seriously, they should probably change the classifications somehow.
D'va can be a decent off tank, but she's not a fucking full on tank in any fucking way.
Similar to a zarya.
Also counting symetra as a support is also kinda retarded.
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>>339153926
Lucio is the best at giving people the slip. better than tracer even since he can take a beating.
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>>339154793
Unless this is satire, your the disruption as Winston, you knock people off the objective or knock away supports from the enemy team and shit
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>>339150604
You joking? The 760 is an okay card. You should have no issue unless you have a shit cpu or shit ram.
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>>339154626
Im pretty good with Pharah but in all seriousness there's zero reason to use her over Junkrat. I use Pharah because I like flying and rockets.
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>>339154817
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>>339154908
Symmetra is actually pretty great defense
Her alt fire goes through shields and once she gets close she can ambush even tanks dead in seconds
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>>339155063
Sweden needs hero like Torbjorn
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>>339154030
>zenyatta ult gives 100 health/s
>reaper ult does 200 damage/s

You do the math.
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>>339149375
>see all of them standing by the side watchcing me die
>why?

For a very good reason.
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>playing as Reinhardt
>too strong defense, ask the genji who just throws shurikens from the front line to flank the snipers so we can move in
>he says "I'll do it now" and switches to tracer for some reason
>proceed to continue shooting from the front lines, occasionally trying to zoop in but get killed immediately
>we lose hard
>he says "so you guys are all new to the game huh? Welcome"
WHY is it always the shitters who whine the loudest?
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>other team mates play as widow/hanzo for majority of the game
>change in the last 10 seconds
>lose game
>"wtf stupid team"
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>>339155063
Islam dude. One guy does a shitty picture of mohammed or whatever, and all the islamic countries goes apeshit. Fucking ooga boogas.
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>>339154336
>Pick Reinhardt mid match since team can't push payload
>single handedly get the payload to the checkpoint before last
>entire defense team focuses on the choke point and fires at me
>shield won't even say up for more than 5 seconds
>my team is just standing on the sides watching me die repeadtly in this crazed attempt to play in the hopes of winning
I got legendary accommodation that game. It was bittersweet as fuck.
I don't fucking need your up votes I just need you to stick your penis in one of the exhaust pipes of the payload and push it.
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>>339155327
Snipers always have a superiority complex
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>>339154778
Then why is she never picked for competitive play?
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>>339155282
>genji
>doing dumb shit and blaming his team

Genji attracts a specific kind of people.
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>>339155540
>competitive play
>ranked not out for 2-3 more weeks
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>After playing some matches
>3 are afk
>some just leave when we are just near the payload
>no healers, so I'm getting forced to do the healing
>the other team are somehow godlike mlg Koreans, we get buttfucked and the match is over faster than you can say "buttfucked"

But, those 10/10 of matches, with mercy, are satisfying as hell.
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>>339155767
As someone who loves Genji I can not disagree. But a Genji who does his job properly is so so so helpful.
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>>339155051
pharah can hit bastions and turrets downrange and then jumps up high to take out reapers and meis and other short rangers.
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It's unfortunate that you guys seem to be having a bad time, since my experience with this game so far has been great.

>2 friends and i decide to go only soldier 76 for a few minutes just for fun
>rest of the team does the same
>proceed to stomp the enemy team in record time
>do the same next game, but with winston
>then again as roadhog
So much fun.
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>>339154552
Nah pharah can be a great asset to the team if played right, her ult is really underpowered though and she could do with a tad more hp.
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>>339148949
how do i turn down the fucking bloom in this game? s it just the effects setting, or is there a specific bloom i can turn off?
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>>339156016
I was thinking maybe she should get a 100 hp shield when she activates her ult
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>We need tank
>Roadhog or D.va walks in
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>>339155832
Do you not watch the tournaments that have high-level, competitive play?
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>>339156096
Literally just learn how to flank. She can fly goddammit. In good teams someone will distract the enemies so she can get in and rain death upon them
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>>339155909
gotta agree, a good genji can make their entire team afraid to fire recklessly and watch their backs the whole time.

A good genji is even harder to find than most other characters, because you actually have to think a little. So most of them run in, press E, do nothing, and die in vain, then blame their team "WTF I WENT IN I'M CARRYING US"
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>>339148949

The mindset of a shitter is that they need to pick DPS classes because they're great players, but acknowledge they need support from the team. But they believe that if they switch to a support class, their team will be at a disadvantage because their talents will be wasted on low damage roles.

It's basically a side-effect of the Dunning Krueger effect. They believe no support is better than them giving up DPS.
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>playing as Reinhardt
>pushing the payload by myself because the rest of the team is too busy running around chasing kills and deying
>no support
>we obviously lose
>"gg our tank sucks"
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>>339150070
>>339150252
>>339150757
>>339151018
>>339151104
>>339151441
>>339152060
>>339152147
>>339152591
>>339152618


When will /v/ realize that these same toxic communities/players that they complain about so often, have learned their toxicity from boards like /v/? WE are responsible for this online culture of conflict and general asshat behavior. It's the pot complaining that the kettle is black.

>be the change you wish to see in the gaming community
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>>339156164
Did you? Or are you just assuming they exist?
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>>339156210
She can't move while using her ult though right? It's hard not to be noticed by the enemy team while using it, specially when using it midair.
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>>339152842
Widowbaby spotted. Fuck off back to ASSFAGGOTS.
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>>339156210
Even then, her ult is so week it takes ages to kill a single person. Even when you're behind a Rein's sheild and protected it still sucks.
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>>339148949
that's why i play support hero's like mercy or tolberone cause some hero's are always necessary
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>>339151461
I really wish a developer would have the balls to make a game without snipers.

99% of sniper players are basically a wasted slot and the other 1% are actually competent at sniping.
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>Hi there, i hope you weren't planning on having fun.
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>>339156254
>Play mercy
>Team is full of dps and I'm the only support class
>Try my best to keep everyone alive but they keep charging into the frontlines by themselves
>Half the team is dead most of the time
>"wow what a bad healer"
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>>339156314
>go around the enemy team
>fly directly above them or land behind them they always look up, not back
>press Q
>get triple kill

If they're just watching you fly up and say "Shoot me in the dick", guess what they're gonna do.
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>>339151618
i am usually that mercy
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>>339152816
This a thousand times.
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>>339156314
She can move BEFORE using it, a team too busy dealing with a wall of Lucio, dva, soldier and whatever usually won't notice a pharah sneaking up behind them in the air
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>remove Widowmaker and Hanzo
>game is now 10x more fun for everyone

Prove me wrong
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>>339156254
>playing as Reinhardt
>pushing payload with friend who is Winston
>other 4 fags are dicking around
>they always leave shield to shoot as if they think friendly shields block their shots
>they constantly die because of it
>they bitch about us not doing our jobs

fucking retards
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i really try to hold my anger in check while playing games but yesterday took the cake and pissed me the fuck off.
>Reinhardt
>trying to push dojo on Hanamura
>beggin people to get behind me so we can deal with fucking 3 torbjorns 2 bastions and other reinhardt
>we better scatter so Reinhardt can't protect us
>we better take 2 widows
>we better not take support
>we better not take junkrat to break entrenchment
I just lost it and said i am afking last 30 seconds
some shitter goes : "Really? You are griefing online? pathetic"
I thought i would get a stroke from rage
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>join team
>two Widowmakers and one Hanzo
>it takes half the match until one of them decides to switch to Bastion
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>get invited to a party by some guy from my friends list
>assume I added him because he played good
>he also invites some other guy
>they both continue to pick assault heroes whether we're defending or attacking
>even if there's no healer/tank
>I end up filling in for 3-4 games in a row
>tell them I have to go
>leave
>can't play for like an hour to make it seem like I actually had to go
Why the fuck am I so autistic? I should have just left and dropped them from my firends list.
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>bought game hoping to make some friends while playing it
>its actually making me hate people even more
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>>339153572
What if your friends are all utterly terrible at videogames and refuse teamplay?
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>>339156784
Technically yes since you wouldn't be one shot by a sniper on the other side of the map who had wall hack ult active. But then Mei would have like one counter in the entire game. And basically only Genji for bastions and none for turrets
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>>339148949
I play D.Va mostly and between my Genji friend we normally carry the team. Shit sucks though because no one wants to be a fucking healer, and D.Va is no good as a tank without a steady stream of health.

>>339149375
I fucking do this as D.Va outside of the mech, I will never understand why those idiots can't just fucking die once for the greater good holding the objective down.
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>>339152264
What happens if the bully selects prefer this player on you?
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>King's Road
>Attack
>Choose Reinhardt because glorious combat
>Team picks Torbjorn, Hanzo, Tracer, Mercy, and Widowmaker
>Well what do you fucking know we aren't getting anywhere.
>I always let people fuck around for the first two minutes because it's a pub game
>Minute and a half left
>'Hey guys we could really use some more offensive heros to help us push'
>Of all the people playing, the fucking Torbjorn speaks up, 'Hey man don't blame the characters, we are just playing like shit'
>White knight Tracer, 'Yeah man don't blame the heros'
>Are these people serious
>'Maybe we are playing like shit because we are using the wrong heros?'
>Nobody responds
>Silence for the last minute of the game
>Can't even capture the first point
>They don't even switch heros next game when we are put on defense
I swear, people, and their 'mains'
>>
I know its fucking annoying when you got those kind of players in your team
>never-switching snipers on offense
But what you should really do is just follow their game. Pick whatever you want and go for kills, maybe try learning new heroes, anything.
Match ends, get your exp and get the fuck out of there.
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>quickplay
>find a match in 1 second
>pleasantly surprised
>sudden realization that it means I'm joining a game already in progress
>DEFEAT pops up before the map has even finished loading

What a load of shit. Why does this keep happening?
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>>339157287

Snipers on offense are fine, desu, it's just that one Widow at any given time is enough.
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>4 golds as torbjorn
>on fucking attack thanks to based rein + tor combo
>get decent potg where i flanked their widow
>no commends at all because lel le turret man
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