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Can somebody explain the popularity of this game to me ? I dont
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Can somebody explain the popularity of this game to me ?
I dont get it, its literally another generic FPS
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>>339146870
waifus
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hype marketing
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>>339146870
The characters make my dick hard
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>>339146870
tf2 style arena shooter with a giant like blizz behind it this time instead of volvo

remember how big tf2 was when it came out? same shit
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>>339146870
PORN
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>>339146870
except it's not a generic FPS, it's a TF2 clone.

And it's just a good game. Deal with it.
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Blizzard is hitting that sweet spot of novelty, mainstream exposure and accessibility through mediocre gameplay. What other MMO's do casual WoW players play? What other card games did Blizztards play before Hearthstone? What other ASSFAGGOTS before HotS? etc.

Overwatch, like the other titles mentioned above, is just a casual reiteration of previously established game types, with a sheen so shiny as to be blinding. (which is the one positive I will say of current-day Blizzard-- their audio/visual presentation is superb)
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>>339146870
AWDSADASDASDA
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You can't explain why people enjoy things. They just do. It just so happens you don't enjoy Overwatch while an enormous amount of people do.
The sooner you deal with it and the sooner you stop making this fucking thread over and over again the better you'll feel.
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can i only get a lootbox for leveling up?
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>>339146870
Just like MOBAs or TF2, it's a true RPG, by which I mean you play a role in your team. People like that sort of thing because it reminds them of that sport that Americans call "football".
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Its only competition is a game from two gens ago
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>>339147263
So what you're saying is that Blizzard does it like other devs do, except they do it better since they actually bother to put a respectable degree of polish on their stuff before releasing?
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>>339147220
Everything about Overwatch is a step down from TF2 though.

It's one thing if Blizzard took TF2, LITERALLY cloned it, or improved upon it, but they made the game somehow worse, despite a template existing to work from.
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Because it's actually good? Contrarian /v/ a shit.
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Porn

And its a generic FPS that isn't set in a generic setting, we rarely get those, sadly overwatch doesn't have a campaign, and its imba as fuck.
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>>339146870
Blizzdrones and massive marketing to the most casual of casual audiences. If this wasn't a Blizzard game it would die in a month for sure. Its as shallow as a shooter can get and its meta is going to turn into counterpick all game city.
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>Heavy and well executed marketing
>Plenty of hype (announced last E3, had multiple betas)
>Waifus
>Easily accessible
>Launched on all major platforms
>Blizzard brand
>FPS+MOBA mix is not a saturated genre

Not very interested in the game myself but Blizzard really did their homework on this one. The best part design aside is that they saw how MMO market would decline and become irrelevant within few years and managed to still find a sweet spot when you have two mega franchises in LoL and Dota dominate the scene.
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>>339147423
>wider maps
>more hero variety
>faster gameplay
>shorter matches (fuck you dustbowl)
>no custom loadouts so you know what to expect when you see an enemy hero
>no idling in achivement servers
>no 24/7 2fort

Yeah, it's totally not a step up from TF2 at all...
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>>339147220
Saying "it's good deal with it" is exactly the opposite of what OP asked for. If you can give LITERALLY no reasons WHY the game is good, your opinion is fucking garbage
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>Generic FPS

I really don't see how this is anything like COD or Battlefield. Doesn't even have regen health or iron sights
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>>339147564
inb4 muh server browser and muh mods and muh jank gametypes
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>>339147423
>LITERALLY cloned it
>LITERALLY cloned it
>LITERALLY cloned it
>LITERALLY cloned it
>LITERALLY cloned it
haha yeah i bet you were just pretending to be retarded too
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>>339147110
>OW
>Arena shooter

Most characters are slow as shit and level designs are hardly arenas and more like straight lines for a objective outside of the few koth maps. Also mobility is shit for all but 4 characters so no one is going to be moving around fast enough to justify calling areas arenas in it.

Kill yourself for ever comparing this shallow shit show to arena shooters.
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>>339147567
The game is fun, satisfying, balanced, and devoid of bugs.

You're trying to attach a cynicism here which is usually attributed to people who haven't played the game. Sure, not everyone is going to enjoy it, but most people are out playing it having FUN right now, something /v/ doesn't really know anything about.
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>>339147405
Yep. Polish is Blizzard's thing.
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>>339146870
Marketing.
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It's made by blizzard and it has every character stereotype to appeal to everyone.
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>>339146870
you explained the popularity of it yourself
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>>339147564
my friends can't understand why i like overwatch yet never want to play tf2 with them. this is exactly why. it's hard as fuck to find a tf2 server that is anything other than 9 year olds running in circles showing off their hats
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>>339147661
guess what you shoot at people and you're in an arena faggot
its an arena shooter
deal with it
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>>339147564
>Wider maps
Yes WIDER but open and empty and exist only to make characters who walk slowly take even longer to get across it
>Hero variety
Over 3/4 of them are TF2 characters reimagined and less charming
>Faster gameplay
Ahahaha no Tracer/Genji/Widow are pretty much the only fast characters and maybe 76 but he can't fire during sprint
>Shorter matches
Because levels are short and shit and one double ult push can cap a point because ults are made for children
>No custom loadouts
Just counterpicking meta
>no idling
i agree
>no 24/7 2fort
Atleast its a good map unlike anything in OW.
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>>339147635
i did think about that when I was making the list, and to be fair a lot of those are legitimate criticisms about the game, but the product is what it is, and things that make it different from TF2 don't detract from the game's many positives.
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>>339147405
Sure, there's polish but the core gameplay is a castrated casual reiteration, where nobody effects anything but everybody gets a participation trophy, don't forget to buy more skins
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>>339146870
it's easy and the matches are short so people who normally get hammered can feel pro for spamming abilities
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>>339146928
>>339146898
these two are the sole reason.
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>>339146870
It's tf2 distilled and refined to it's basic elements with some decent and fun characters thrown in
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>>339147654
Try reading, dunkass

>>339147564
>Poorly designed maps
>Hero balance is bad, will only get worse as more are added
>No advanced movement options
>Hurr
>Custom loadouts will just be made into new heroes
>Who the fuck cares
>Who the fuck cares

So instead the new features will be class bloat, no private servers so the community will drop dead within the year, the worst visual clutter I've ever seen in an FPS, INFINITE AMMO, press x to awesome buttons, $40 price tag + cash shop, and crappy art design that started out bad instead of become bad with hats.
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Waifus for sore loosers
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>>339147881
you're retarded
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>>339147354

You can buy them with RL currency in the shop. To this point, it is my only criticism of the game. I don't mind a RL currency shop, but I think it is a little silly that you can only buy loot boxes. You're forced to gamble your money away for a chance at a particular skin/spray/whatever you want. Why not have gold in the shop? I'd spend 5 bucks on some gold if it meant I could get the skin I want, similar to RP in league.
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Waifus,marketeting, normies first tf2 since normies can't into PC gaming, adds assfaggots shit to fps to appeal to casuals even more.

The game represents everything wrong with modern gaming and blizzard.
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>>339146870
Monetizing Titan's assests off of a generic fps. Yes, it's a cash grab.
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>>339147876
TF2 has a boatload of good private servers for like 7 years dude.

Try playing a game on the short end of it's decade lifespan.
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>>339147749
>balanced
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>Blizzfags
>really good art direction
>TF2fags wanting something new and fresh
>normiefag hype

The game is ok but gets old real quick. After I got tired of it in the free weekend I reinstalled TF2 and holy shit it felt like going from a cell phone game to an actual game.
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>>339148115
>muh titan

do you even know what you're talking about
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>>339148262
for having 21 heroes its the balance is surprisingly good
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>>339147831
I seriously wonder if people think the OW characters are good, and just ignore how everything in the game is basically a cookie cutter cliche.
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>>339148074
I actually don't think blizzard should have sold them, so that you had to PLAY the game to get the lootboxes.

It would encourage people to play the game for longer and increased the overall popularity and longevity of the game. I think blizzard may have done goofed just to make a quick buck.
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>>339146870
Why is she so fucking cute lads
I don't even give a shit about the game, it just has too many waifubaits
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>>339146870
>autismo MOBA heroes
>Waifus
>a rip off of loot crate simulator (CSGO)
>a rip off of hat simulator 2
>it's made by blizzard, a company that can sell people horse shit
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>>339148354
Nigga, heroes are SUPPOSED to be walking clichés, what do you think comic books have been doing all these decades??
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>>339146870
>I dont get it, its literally another generic FPS
never looked at it that way.... huh...

really makes u think
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>>339148152
most servers were utter shit in tf2
im so glad that MM is a thing in newer games...
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>>339148350
Half the cast is outclassed and basically useless because there's someone that does their roles twice as good as them.

You don't need to go with 9 classes like TF2, but when you start out with 21 and are going to add a bunch more, you're just going to fuck the balance sideways.

Just choose a smaller roster and balance around that, instead of going for the MOBA crowd where more = better.

>>339148308
>really good art direction

Anon please, don't trigger me this badly.
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>>339148363
Pretty much, hats were what kept TF2 going for so long, once they started selling that shit the gambling feel died, I miss getting friends together for a night of crafting scrap into hats and laughing at the shit we got while shooting eachother.
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>>339148458
this
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>>339148501
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UNORIGINAL AND INSTANTLY DATED

Epic, epic for the win.
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>>339148549
oh yeah

it's the one thing I loved about post-cod4 games on pc

matchmaking

you couldn't get so easily banned for using the grenade launcher attachment
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>>339148262
after playing over 30 hours of the game with a group we have a 55% win ratio, so yes, the game is very balanced.
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>>339148564
Why do you have to same fag so much op, it's been you arguing throughout the thread, give it up
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>>339148549
Most everything in anything is utter shit, the point of private servers was to make and join the ones that aren't shit, moron.
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>>339146870
Blizzard FOTM that sold massively because the fanboys get items in their other games.
The "hype" will die down in a month at most.
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>>339147405
Yep a shiny turd is still a turd but atleast it looks nice before you smell the rancid stench.
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It's made by Blizzard

marketing is more important than game design that's how they function
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the only thing generic about it is that is shares some similarities with tf2
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>>339148656
Don't forget the MM on CS:GO, a.k.a Russian Pen-pal Finder
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>>339148564
tf2 was unbalaned for a long time and classes are still unbalanced in pub and competetive...

some heroes in overwatch are underwhelming but most of them have a reason to be played... even if it just used to counter 1 strat on a specific spot against specific heroes.
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>>339146870
Waifus
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>>339148658
>play 30 hours
>"It's balanced!"

Top laugh, tell me why there's a reason to pick anyone but McCree, Widowmaker, and Lucio for their respective roles.
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>>339148354
I love some of Overwatch's character designs. Soldier 76 is a generic as fuck FPS character and was made to be such but, his whole fall from grace to turn vigilante is great. Couple that with his "I'm not a young man anymore" shtick and you've got a winning formula.
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>>339146870
Waifus and husbandos
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>>339148704
i go through 20 severs until you find a decent one? or wait an hour until your favorite server starts to fill itself?

meh...
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>>339148842
Tanks.
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>>339146870
You didn't see anything. It'll be released in vinyl next month.
Thinking back, Republic Commando was a damn good fps.
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>>339148829
>tf2 was unbalanced for a long time
Literally the only 2 unbalanced classes were Demo and Pyro, and you could easily shut down demos with shoot feet to win man, scoot, and headclicker, or an uber, so it's not like they were a steamroller unless you were fucking blind.
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>>339148923
>Implying McCree and Widowmaker can't fuck tanks for days.

>>339148913
Try building a list of decent servers to choose from, instead of being a retard and playing in pubs until your autism fills 1 you like.
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>>339147564
>wider maps

The map design is terrible in Overwatch, they look wide but are mostly just straight paths to the objective, maps like Hannamura are common, where the only flanking path is available to a few select heroes who can reach it.
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>>339146870
Waifus and polish.

It might not reinvent the wheel, but you can clearly see the money that went in to it from every part of the design.
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Overwatch is pretty mediocre, but it's stupid popular anyways. I'm not even mad though. I've come to terms with it.
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>>339148658

its the exact opposite of that, its a game that anyone can pick up and kill you/win the game, 0 skill involved

You can put 100 hours in OW, and a guy with 1 hour will kill you and win matches against you
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>>339147320
its easy to manupulate this feelling of fake enjoyment, Socio Engineering and marketing at its best.
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>>339149265
It has no competition, and everyone is tired of TF2.

It's literally just a case of "good enough".
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>"Can someone explain the popularity of X?"
>ITS SHIT ITS POPULAR CAUSE ITS SHIT SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

If you're trying to hide those sour grapes, ya'll are doin a bang-up job, I must say.
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>>339148842
Mcree (Offense)
>Genji can reach various areas of the map Mcree would be unable to access, and can counter a bastion or d.va more easily than mcree
>Pharah is a long range offensive character with higher mobility and an extremely useful knockback utility, which mcree lacks
>Reaper is edgelord don't play him
>Soldier 76 is an incredible tanky offensive hero who can heal himself for more survivability than mcree; useful for a direct push rather than flanking which is Mcree's style
>Tracer is maximum flank speed. Her pistols with an accurate player are as effective as Mcree. She is also better at harassment.

Widowmaker (Defense)
>Bastion can hold a chokepoint more easily than widowmaker, especially if your flanks are unprotected
>Hanzo is more agressive than Widowmaker and can provide recon more frequently, although recon vision is OP as fuck to be fair. A good hanzo can be a lot more effective than a good widowmaker when pushing payload.
>Junkrat can shoot round corners m8. ROUND DE KORNER.
>Mei is OP as fuck and has ridiculously high HP; fuck your french slut waifu
>Tjorborn is good for chokepoints and close areas where a sniper wouldn't be able to keep a distance from the enemy.

Lucio (Support)
>Symmetra's turrets are annoying as fuck and can really disorient a team, more so than Lucio.
>Zenyata is an absolute fucking beast and can kill most heroes if you don't suck.
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>>339149380
Also a bit of "right place at the right time"
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>>339147559

People keep saying MOBA but what the fuck about this game is MOBA-like?

The abilities?
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>>339146870
it's an alright game and people are desperate for new things to do. We live in a society were humans have no purpose and must dedicate themselves to their hobbies to cope with existence.
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>>339147921

What part of it is castrated
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>>339149052
tf2 had some serious balance issues and is only now somewhat okay.

serious competetive setups still consists mostly of medic, soldiers, scouts and demoman. The rest is either used very rarely or not at all like spy.

inb4 some guy used spy in a shitty tournament in a tiny almost non existent competetive scene which cant be taken serious.
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>>339149426
It's on all platforms, why would there be sour grapes?
can they not afford it?
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>>339149428
You listed merits not reasons to play other characters. None of that matters when I can just burn any other character down in .5 seconds with my m1.
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>>339149356
>You can put 100 hours in OW, and a guy with 1 hour will kill you and win matches against you

As a level 16 character, I grouped up with a friend who hadn't had chance to play yet and was put in a game with lvl 1-2s, and they were fucking abysmal. They were NOT able to kill me and they got absolutely stomped, to the point where I felt bad for doing it.

So no, that's just not right.
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>>339147320
My problem with Overwatch isn't that I don't enjoy it, because I did like the beta, but it's blindingly obvious that the design and community decisions for the game are going to kill it extremely quickly, and it wasn't fun enough to drop $40 on a game that's going to be a ghost town in 6 months.

Anyone with any remote experience with PC shooters can call this shit from a mile away, and Blizzard just neglected to include things that will add to any sense of longevity for their game, opting for total control and casual games for the casual audience, which is fine, but it's not going to keep a scene going after the initial release hype wears off.
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>>339148067
mad
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>>339149548
But I was stomping people 5 minutes in. Maybe you encountered clinical retards. Not that surprising, it's a Blizzard game.
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>>339146870
It's made by Blizzard, so all the mindless sheep are flocking to it, as they do with all of their generic, boring clone games they made after their last good game, Diablo II + LoD.
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>>339149540
Oh yes, you can kill an enemy in one hit with a sniper, GG.

Meanwhile, that tracer has managed to flank her way to your position and you're about to die, but no, you're absolutely right, your hero is OP as fuck.
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>>339149483
Ultimates, hard counters, hero bloat, no advanced mechanics outside the direct utility of various hero abilities.
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>>339146870
In what way is it generic?
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Waifus?
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>>339149524
6v6 competitive is not the base game and is not where the balance is supposed to be, nor was ever the focus of the game.

99.99% of the player base has not, and never will experience a comp scene.
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>>339147564
>>no custom loadouts so you know what to expect when you see an enemy hero
This is objectively a bad thing.
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>>339146870
Exactly. Plenty of better FPS games on the market. Dirty Bomb, for example.
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>>339149142
if your zarya or roadhog can't handle a mcree, they must be bad.

Also a single Reinhardt fire blast can kill Mcree.
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>>339149709
Lucio and McREE are just as scary rounding a corner. No other characters can deal such an immense amount if damage so quickly without an ult
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>>339149356
>You can put 100 hours in OW, and a guy with 1 hour will kill you and win matches against you

In CSGO you can get AWPed by someone who has 1 hour in the game. CSGO no skill confirmed.
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>>339147983
>all this effort to whine about a game you don't personally like on the Internet

I think you need to fresh air my friend, take a step out of your window for a few.
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>>339149709
>Tracer can kill you
>That means you should pick a worse hero to maybe somewhat help deal with that situation sometimes
>Do worse damage and have less utility just to occasionally deal with your counter if you even see them coming

wow great
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>>339149814
Good assessment. I agree completely. And yet your post is masked in a layer of sarcasm. How odd.
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>>339149192
They are linear yes, but they are (generally) larger than the maps in TF2 was my point.
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>>339149796
>Roadhog memes at me
>Kill him anyway because McCree is retarded

Nice balance.
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It's the year of our lord 2016, nobody has a problem with a legitimate wallhack in a mp fps.
10 years ago the industry and the gaming community as a whole would've shunned this like the plague that it is.

What happened /v/?
What happened to you /v/?
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>>339149885
So you're saying there's never any reason to pick anyone but Mcree for offensive, but you acknowledge the fact that Tracer is a counter to Widow, therefore a reason to pick her?

Cmon m8, your pleb edgelord cowadoody hero preference is showing.
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>>339147423
It's funny because the same thing people said about TF2.
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Waifus and no free to play shitters ruining it
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>>339149859
Not an argument.

>>339150019
Casuals and people that fell for marketing hype justifying their purchase.
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>>339150019
Many new users were born since then, basically. Skill isn't skill but how well you can deploy a press of the E key.
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>>339149796

>100 damage kills 200 health

okay
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>>339149614
that's ok dude longevity is a meme for this kind of game

You can't force a community around it. If people really like it and find some real depth that they can get behind they'll stick with it if not well they'll move to the next thing.

Look at HOTS for example that's another forced game made by Blizzard it was manufactured to succeed yet it failed.
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>>339150063
We're saying why counter widow with tracer when you can do t better with mcree? Merits are what you listed. Not reasons. Mcree Lucio and Widow are the best and most adaptable and there is no reason not to run them besides "lol muh gimmick hard counter tho!"

Don't care. I can fuck up bastion anyways.
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>>339150121

>skill is what I personally define it as very narrowly to exclude everything I don't like

/v/
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>>339150063
>Widow pops her wallhacks
>Tracer is seen coming from a mile away
>Stun her and rape her face since lol I counter her :^^^^^^^^^)

Literally no reason not to have 2 McCrees and a Widow on every team.
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>>339146898

And Blizzard, that's about it.

It's a pretty generic shooter and if it was published by anyone other than Activision-Blizzard, it would be forgotten by tomorrow.
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>>339150304
>Skill isn't it's literal definition it's tactics!

Fuck off millennial I can smell your college education from here.
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>>339150236

How is Mc Cree ever gonna reach a Widow ?
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>>339148842

Pretty sure thats enough time to judge if the game has broken characters or not
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>>339150304
What even is your point, son? At least apply yourself a little.
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>>339150413
With his incredibly accurate and fast firing m1 or a flank you stupid Mongoloid. Holy shit.
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>>339150413
Just counter snipe her with your own Widow while keeping wallhacks up as often as possible to let McCree shit on everything.
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>>339150409

Oh, so you're a dropout
Makes sense that you'd be afflicted by dunning krugger and desperately clinging to every illusion of being somehow more special than your betters
Carry on
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>>339146898
>>339146928
These two got me interested even to try the beta. What got me buying the game was concentrated gameplay design. Reminded me of TF2, before Valve mucked it up with hundreds of alternative weapon fluff. The characters are very simple, but that only means more is left to player skill then what loadout they have.

Only hope they keep up with content.
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>>339150436
And it does: Lucio, Widow, and McCree

If you have these on your team and the enemies don't then you win.
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>>339150019

It's almost as if that's her special ability that gains her an advantage for a small period of time

just a hunch
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>>339150019
Disgusting.
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>>339150546
The very fact that you wrote something g so painfully cliche shows that you are in fact the one suffering this delusion. Be gone foul spirit. We're trying to discuss a gane with facts and discourse, not babbling and poop flinging.
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>>339150506

>Flank with no mobility
>M1 a widow as Mc Cree

lmao as long as we're assuming the other team is retarded Zenniatah is also a good counter to widow, he shoots so far !
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>>339148842
does top kek filters to top laugh? that would actually be hilarious
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>>339150594
>more is left to player skill then what loadout they have
This game's skill ceiling is much much lower than TF2 though, and you can literally tell what loadout someone is using from what weapon is in their fucking hand.
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>>339148842
roadhog, winston, pharah can give you a bad time as McCree. Hitting the flashbang isnt that easy against decent players since mcree has distinct running sound.
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Feels good to play, really polished, fun with friends

it's not amazing but we all know how this board gets with games that are popular
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>>339150651

You literally have not listed any facts tho. You just said using your skills optimally and knowing how to react to different comps and situations as well as correctly executing that strategy is not skill.

I don't have an anime girl smug enough, or a pony purpler than your prose.
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>>339150659
You can't aim those turrets retard. A flank doesn't have to be fast if it's a team kill. A skilled mcree is superior to any other character in the game. Youd have to get the drop on him and outnumber or have excellent map position to stand a chance (pr admittedly see him first as widow, who is also one of the three vest characters in the gsme so tis conversation is moot. Idiot.).
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It's an FPS with cartoony characters that sacrifices depth for accessibility. It's nothing new.
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>>339150019
It's true tho show that someone from 2006 and he would say it's a hack.
10 years of console reign has destroyed everything. Only 10 years.
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>>339150737
>Some heroes are harder to kill as McCree than others
>Still kill them anyway
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>>339150019
It's the Marvel vs Capcom approach to game design balance basically fuck all hope it works just find a counter
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>>339150781
>Skill is mechanical skill
>Tactics is racist
>They're two different things

What else is required? What's not to get? You simple, boy?
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>>339150669
Honestly the game will be dead the moment something else exciting and multiplayer comes out.

To actually have staying power like TF2, or Counter-strike you need to have massive user made maps, mods, content. (See Skyrim).

This overwatch thing is just going to blow over, and when everyone forgets about it, THEN blizzard will start milking whoever stayed back with paid heroes, items spell effects whatever the fuck they can sell.
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>>339150812

>You can't aim those turrets retard

dude try to use sentences that make sense in the context of the conversation, your autism is leaking
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>>339146898
Yep, that and tons of porn that comes with it.
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>>339150770
>fun with friends
Yeah, but what happens in 1-2 months when your friends are playing less and less, and there's no private servers to make more friends in to play with?

The problem with Overwatch isn't that it isn't fun, it's that it has an obviously short shelf life.

My friends that got Overwatch are already playing it less than they were, and it's gonna keep slowing down since Blizzard didn't add anything to keep the game going for more than a few weeks.
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>>339150928

mobas tend to do fine without those things though

this games gonna be around for awhile man
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>>339150942
You're trying to tell me that mcree pistol and nigger bitch turrets are contextually the same in this vs widow situation when they're not because one I can aim at range and the other doesn't even fucking trigger. Apply yourself.
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>>339150921

>skill is mechanical skill

source : your ass, I assume ?
Excellent players are never judged on the sole basis of their mechanical skills, skill is an umbrella term that serves as a shorthand to their general competence at the game.
You might have learned correct syntax in college
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>>339146870
quirky cartoony characters for spastics to enjoy
waifus for autists to get attached to
microtransaction crates for gamblers to become addicted to
brain-dead gameplay for casuals to throw money at
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>>339150720
>skill ceiling
Irrelevant. The game could be two guys with sharp sticks and it's still a matter of which player is best with them. Fluff doesn't make a game good.

>you can literally tell what loadout someone is using from what weapon is in their fucking hand.
And you can tell what a Reaper is using straight away. TF2 is muddy bullshit.
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>>339151039

>zenniata
>turrets

I suggest playing the game before comenting on it
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>>339151048
Yes and micro and macro aren't two seperate things in StarCraft. You're high as a kite.
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>>339151006
MOBAs are dogshit and people only play them because they're free and marketed to hell and back.

If you ever compare anything to a MOBA positively then you should immediately kill yourself for picking the worst gameplay design ever dredged up from whatever shithole it was found in.
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>>339150995

I dunno man, I play with friends and we're only getting more into it after each match

I do agree that if blizzard don't do something quick it will die soon though, but something tells me they're on it already
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>>339149540
Until you get some hot monkey dick up your ass and are forced to switch characters
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>>339146870
Because Blizzard, maybe? It seems good, but not that different from what some chinese F2P dev might've put out.
I admit I'm saying this after only watching some matches, though. Maybe actually playing it would enlighten me somehow.
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>>339151069
>skill ceiling
>Irrelevant

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
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>>339151117
Oh sorry got my worthless characters mixed up. He does shoot so far. He also does shit for damage. Sorry. My bad.
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>>339151132

>If you ever compare anything to a MOBA positively then you should immediately kill yourself

Is... everything okay man?
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>>339151164
They would need to add advanced mechanics, better maps, and private servers if they want to keep it going, and they need to do it now while the hype is fresh.

They won't though, because it's Blizzard.
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>>339151048
Not him, but you have absolutely nothing to say. No one can gain anything by reading your shit.
Carry on.
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>>339146870
I like casual shooters and needed a replacement for Garden Warfare since GW2 is kind of shit.

Also I want to sniff tracers shoes
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put overshit in the subject name so i can filter you

fucking faggot children

why do you feel the need to flood the board with the same fucking shit games
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>>339146870
The characters really,
They all have their own personality and backstories. The in-game character interactions too is a huge plus.
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>>339151236

He hits exactly as hard as Mc Cree but nice try pretending you know anything
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>>339151132

I was just saying that those games manage to stay afloat despite all the things you said games fail without, pull yourself together man
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>>339151273
No, it's too fucking hot out and the AC is broken
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>>339151212
Lol no? Winston is just so much garbage. No damage, shit ult, and a piss poor jump as an excuse for movement that can't come close to Lucio or even pharah. Love watching Winston get fucking blasted out of the air like the retard he is.
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>>339151348

Yeah guys wtf are you doing we should be flooding the board with dark souls threads you pieces of shit
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>>339151125

Good job saying nothing, you sure are showering me with those "facts and discourses". Keep pretending your uneducated ass knows anything.

>>339151308

And your post serves a purpose somehow ?
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>>339151365
It's not hard to keep free games going.
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>>339151361
No way Jose, mashing mcree's M1 does way more dps. Per shot dmg =\= dps learn to math
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>>339151221
That easy to learn gameplay doesn't negate player skill. Mind blowing, I know.
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It's an Activision game. Don't be deluded into thinking this is some late 90s Blizzard release.

They probably spent a hundred million just on marketing.
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>>339151465

>DPS matters more than damage per shot

This standing still meta you're playing must be quite something
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Character designs are nice/every girl looks like a more action-oriented Disney Princess, abilities feel fun to use, ultimates make you feel like a Big Dick G, all of the characters feel different which adds variety, lots of fun fanart/user created content.

I played TF2 for years and this feels like a worthy successor.
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>>339151440
>tell faggots not to flood
>clearly i must want another shit game to flood the board

why are children so fucking stupid. just look at the lack of intelligence in that post

fucking shitheads
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>>339151508
It just sounds like you shouldn't bother with video games or sports or any sort of competition really and that you just will never "get" it.
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There's something sickening in particular to how Blizzard "develops" their games.
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>>339151540
>Damage per shot matters when I can round a corner and bust my six shot load in your face before you have the time to click once.

Okay meme-master, keep educatinme m on how video games work. I only have been playing FPS since their very advent.
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>>339151520
I saw Overwatch cups at Taco Bell
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>>339151551
Blizzard marketing department please go and stay go already.
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>>339151608
Funny you bring up sports, since they're very simple to learn too. You just kick/throw/carry a ball into the goal.

Wouldn't you say that's a low skill ceiling? Surely they must pad it with additional rules and let players choose different equipment to make it 'real'
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>>339151702

I know your generation has a short attention span but try to remember what the conversation is about before having an autistic outburst about something irrelevant. This is about long range fighting against a sniper. Good luck trying to hit her with fan lmao
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I find it fun. The characters are diverse in both gameplay and personality. Unlike TF2 where I hated playing sniper and soldier I'm not really having any issues playing as anybody.

It's not a great game to discuss on /v/, though. /v/ is fixated on waifus and unlocking costumes to care about anything else.
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>>339151736
Better video games don't get played because they are not a high priority investment to Normies. They only get so many video games to purchase a month, since they have real life things to attend to.

I dont know what all of you faggots expected to happen to video games.
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>>339151807

Stay mad while we enjoy video games with our friends anon
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Im so torn if I should get this game or not. On one hand I can see myself getting completely addicted to it which is what I want since i have a whole summer of free time ahead of me but on the other hand i can see myself playing 2 games and getting bored. Does blizzard do refunds?
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>>339146870
Blizzard fanboys will play anything Blizzard makes.
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>>339151825
Yes like I said I come from a generation who played games such as "Quake Arena" or "Unreal Tournament" where clicking one or two fast moving pixels with your crosshair for damage optimization is 100% required or you're a piece of shit scrub.
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>>339151586
Thanks for continuing to bump the thread and provoke responses
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>>339146870
>hype
>TF2 with female puppey eyes
>TF2 with female tits
>TF2 with female ass
>shills! shills everywere!
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>>339151608

Honest question, have you ever been involved in any sort of actual competitive activity, or do you just play casually and like pretending you're worth shit just because there's an imaginary skill ceiling you'll never reach ?

Besides, retards like you keep mistaking the ceiling for the floor, but I don't expect you to understand that either.
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>>339151938

I've never properly played a blizzard title, but I'm enjoying this game

so yeah nah
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>>339151996
Rugby, won a state championship too which is not the best but proves I'm better than others at it. European players would still cuck me though because they take it more seriously. :^)
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>>339151953

Well then it might blow your mind to learn this isn't Quake or Unreal and characters have specific hp and damage numbers that you can compare to know how to play a matchup, and lo and behold DPS is not as important as the ability to burst someone down in this context. Fucking amazing.

Now keep pretending you have any sort of OG cred for being shit at a game everyone and their mother played 15 years ago when you haven't competed seriously in it even once in your life.
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>>339146870
Porn bait cast of characters.
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Good advertisement and pandering to the hardcore gamer wannabees
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>>339152129

So how high would the skill ceiling of running with a ball be in your opinion
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>>339152169
And what I'm precisely arguing is that mcree's burst potential is insane meaning that mcree's vs widow comes down to first visual contact, because they're two of the three best characters in the game, because YOU originally used her as an example of why you should for some reason not play widow mcree or Lucio holy shit you win by sheer retardation I'm leaving.
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The marketing budget was bigger than Destiny and CoD combined
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>>339152236
Pretty unlimited since its based on such a nebulous concept as muscle control. Do you think before you talk? Or is it just so important to be right that you try any intellectual approach you can, even if its stupid?
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blizzdrones eat everything their overlords defecate for them
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>People like Starcraft because it's hardcore and challenging
>People like WoW because it's hardcore and challenging
>People like Overwatch because it's casual and has muh waifus

Blizzdrones proving yet again they'll eat up anything their master shits out.
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>>339146870
It's the polish. It's pretty and refined. Simple and fun.
I wish more devs realized this. Polish your fucking games before release. Make them pretty, make them run well. It's the difference between a good game and a great game, it also changes mediocre games into good games.
It's not that fucking hard but devs have gotten super fucking lazy and people lap up shit on release if a game is hyped enough.
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>>339151931
You won't get your money back.
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>>339152563
Yeah people did like brood war and vanilla wow for being hardcore and engaging. Astute motherfucking observation captain obvious. But I still replied so 10/10 b8 m8.
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>>339152563

>People like Overwatch because it's casual and has muh waifus

I don't see anything wrong with that
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>339147405
>rehash of established games, mediocre gameplay, mainstream exposure, marketing and presentation, shiny turd, tits and ass, pandering to casual fags and teens
>so better and polished?

Pick one Blizzard faggot
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>>339152594
GTAV is my perfect example. That game is shit. I'd eat it up if it weren't for the fact that I'm disconnect 75% of the time I try to join anything but Freeplay. Seriously even if it worked right itd be shit. But I'd play the hell out if it anyways.
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>what is activision marketing
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>People can't into situational awareness
>Widowmaker's ult wallhacks for you
>People can't into aiming
>Solder76's ult is an aimbot
>People can't into staying alive
>Mercy's ult is to revive the entire team
>People can't into managing to kill every last enemy they see
>McCree's ult insta kills everything on the screen

Please hold my hand Blizzard, I'm bad at video games and want you to do all the work for me
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>>339147749
>game is good, good, balanced and polished

Still no real reasons in there hombre
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>>339151908
>faggets playing TF2 with tits and ass in their closet
>friends

10/10 bait
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>>339152901

that's kinda why they're ults you dork

also half of that shit doesn't work if the opposition is competent
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I've ended like four arguments in no replies this thread and yet I feel no satisfaction. That's my queue to leave 4chan forever. Inb4

>lol no one responds because you're an insufferable faggot not because they're wrong.

Jesus I can predict the meta for every shitpost now too. Ive wasted my life arguing on /v/.
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>>339153054

>Y-yeah well you and your friends are looooosers! haha!

wew lad
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>>339153098
>also half of that shit doesn't work if the opposition is competent
>Wallhacks don't work because competence
>Aimbots don't work because competence
>Full team revives don't work because competence
>McCree doesn't work because competence
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>>339146870
Waifus. and a quadrillions dollar campaign.
Remove waifus = game is shit.
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>>339152901
but everyone in the game has one of those over the top powers. don't you want your game to go tü thë mäx?
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>>339153098
He's not saying they're good. It's just obvious why that shit is the way it is. Remember, being right doesn't matter. Just try to figure out context and subtext. Then you can into discourse.
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>>339153213
He's not wrong

>"ITS HIGH NOON"
Competent player locates mcree and focuses with team or gets behind mei. Stupid player dies.

See? Context and subtext.
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>>339153213

Don't fucking run out into the open if there's a widowmaker
Same with soldier 76
Timing mercy's revival is crucial
Mcree's ult is dependent on the health of the enemy, have fun finding time to instakill a tank with lots of health
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>>339153427
Low dawn man doesn't even need his ult to rape everything.
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>>339147881
it is NOT an arena shooter you dont shoot arenas at all

delete this
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>>339153501
Well, no, but that's not what we were talking about. Just that most of the list do a lot of damage but have hella tells and can be worked around.
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>>339153213

You can see enemies through walls for a small window of time, not the damn ability to necessarily wreck everybody

it's really not that overpowered
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>>339153452
>just don't move around the map because someone might pop their I Win button

Good design
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>>339146898
>>339146928
this
also it's tf2-like except it got marketed a lot and has a different design (futuristic characters/edge lords vs 90's mercenaries with hats)
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>>339153667

No you idiot just be aware of where your team is relative to the opposition and points where you could be easily sniped from
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>>339146870
Marketing. Gameplay is bland and gets boring fast. If you paid for this game, you can still get a refund via chargeback.
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>>339150019
>wallhacks pleague FPS
>Blizzard sells it as a feature
>they can now deny existence of real wallhackers and call you a sucker
>if you post evidence they delete it and ban you from the forum for spreading cheats

100% Blizzard design and retards eat it up.
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>>339153773
The guy sucks at fucking overwatch of all games you're never going to be able to explain fucking videogames to him judt give up
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>>339147585
This. The game may be casual, easy, shitty, shallow, whatever, but it's not generic
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>>339146870

remember when team fortress 2 came out and everyone flocked to it, praising valve?

yeah, same deal.
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>>339153667

So you've never played the game? ults don't do shit unless you use them at the right place and time
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>>339153914
Its p generic famalam.

>Quirky stereotype characters
>Muted cartoon graphics because team based shooter == associated with tf2 == let's get generic, Blizzard! Love it!
>There's a character that tanks, a character that does damage, a character that flies, and this guy is an archer and this one's a sniper and...
>DreamWorks

But you know nothing new under the sun so I woukdnt necessarily complain about it being generic myself.
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>>339154112
Just because every character is a walking tv tropes page doesn't make it a "generic FIRST PERSON SHOOTER".
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>>339146870
It's a meme game propped by a ridiculously huge marketing campaign. Many idiots felt for it so for now we are flooded by dozens of retarded OW waifus threads.
It's going to die down in a couple weeks though, the time for most suckers to realize they have been had again and they purchased a Blizzard FOTM and the equivalent of HOTS in 3D.
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>>339153773
>your whole team just has to permanently act like an all seeing all knowing god to outweight what a character with an I win button can do with a button click. Its all about competence

Good game design.

I wonder how many people would play this game if it wasn't for the oversexed Disney girls for all the virgins out there.
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>>339154112

>It's pretty generic senpai
>Lists a whole lot of elements that most other games don't have

think before you post, moron
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patch when?
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>>339154204
Okay that's a pretty reasonable stance.

>>339154302
You're the moron. You could have at least put in an effort like the guy above you.
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>>339146928
This, and the whole fact its Blizzard.
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>>339146870
still wont let you aim down sights though, its an archaic game that needs to drown
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>>339154538
>You could have at least put in an effort like the guy above you.
An effort in what? Making fool out of myself? Get lost
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