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>You may have heard something recently about the sudden, not-at-all-surprising proliferation of Overwatch... well, porn. Kotaku did an impressively in-depth report on the phenomenon a few days ago, but the short version of the story is that some people want it, and so other people are making it. And in a few instances, to startlingly high standards—or so I'm told. But it's recently come to light that someone, presumably Blizzard, is working to have it all taken down.
When will companies learn that you cannot stop rule 34?
No, really! When will they learn?!
>Implying they can remove a fictional picture from gelbooru that they own no copyright to
>>339139640
isn't this only for videos made with original character models ?
>>339139841
That... sounds fucking hot. Time to fire up the fap hand.
>>339139640
You didn't even read your own link, you fucking idiot
They're taking away porn that uses the in-game models
>>339139841
Yes, OP is a fucking retard
It's jewish as fuck but acting like it's the end of porn is moronic.
>>339139640
>taking down porn
Why? It hurts no one.
Don't worry. It's not censorship. It's localization.
>implying they can remove porn rom the internet
gg bliz
Does fair use not cover sfm porn?
>>339139929
>>339139962
It does. This is literally censorship.
>>339139640
I'm assuming PCgamer are being idiots here. When has ANY company ever thought it could take porn of the internet?
>>339139841
Yes. They can't take down drawing because that's just fanart and is covered by fair use.
They do own the actual models though so that's a copyright issue and copyright laws demand that you actively defend what's yours or you may lose those rights.
Blizzard doesn't expect SFM porn of their characters to disappear from the internet but they are obligated to make a token effort to take it down.
Same with private servers. They don't actually care about them but they have to make a show of it every once in a while for legal reasons.
>We're going to take down all the porn of our game.
>Yeah, ALL THE PORN.
>If you don't know, there's a LOT OF PORN of our game.
>Don't forget to check our porn and buy some crates afterwards.
>>339140046
>Take porn off the internet
They're not. They're localizing it.
>>339139903
thats what I thought..
Nothing to see here folks.. move along
>>339140079
this
>>339139962
It does, but the problem is people are using the character models ripped from the data files in the game.
>>339140069
Derived content.
>>339139962
When you rip the models from the game. The fair use tag gets thrown into the bin
>>339139903
>They're taking away porn that uses the in-game models
What fucking babies. What a worthless expenditure of time and effort.
>>339140156
>>339140138
Derived. Content.
>>339139640
Anyone who faps to girls with short hair is a closet homosexual anyway.
>Censoring 50% of the reason people play
That is stupid, it has only had a positive effect
>tons of SFM artists took down all their posts because of this
God fucking damn it.
Why would they care if there isn't any profit involved? Hasn't there been wow models around having sex forever?
>>339140069
>you actively defend what's yours or you may lose those rights.
Through what avenues do you lose a copywrite because people are infringing on it? I can't fathom how their ownership is in jeopardy. I think you may have made that up because it sounds good
This is just a PR move because of that fucking Shitaku article.
Blizz doesn't give a shit but they don't want to look like they're condoning it either so they're throwing out a few DMCAs and telling people they're going after it.
In 3 months no one will care and none of the porn will be gone but that article will remain on the Internet forever. Plus it's by a much more reputable source.
>>339140148
>>339140195
That argument could be made in court and it might even work but no SFM porn makers would ever actually pay for a lawyer so it doesn't matter.
>>339140315
Don't get me started on World of whorecraft.
>remove things
>from the internet
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?
>>339140069
Even if it's "their" models it's still sketchy. Porn is protected by parody law.
>>339140386
A lot of the porn is gone already
Another Blizzard marketing tactic by drawing out more news
>>339139640
Blizzard world domination when?
>>339140493
This.
>Don't fap to Overwatch porn, silly boys ;)
>I hear it's very good quality though. ;)))
I can't wait until Kotaku is dead.
>thinking porn can be stopped
If Disney gave up and just lets it happen, I can't imagine why Blizzard thinks they can prevent it from happening.
>>339140542
Never since they lost all of their money on the WOW movie
>>339139640
>retarded clickbait-y thread with subject
this isn't reddit you fuckers, you don't need to fill the subject, or post even
>>339139950
>>339139974
They've already done a good job, a lot of the SFM retards on tumblr took down all their work and won't create anything for Overwatch.
>>339140493
They are pretty clever at doing this
>>339139929
>>339140605
Good means they can go back to making Marie Rose SFM
fuck off shill
>>339140572
If a boy burns himself on a stove and doesn't tell anybody, nothing is stopping his little brother from making the same mistake later on.
>>339139640
>or so I'm told.
Then why create SFM at all if the companies who stick their games on steam can do that?
What about the fact that the models themselves are modded/edited heavily?Just for the sake of argument.
>>339140572
Has been stopped to a point.
A lot of the people creating for Overwatch have taken down their stuff and they won't make anything more in Source Pissmaker.
>>339140418
It's fair use under what's known as derived content. You can't scream and say, "that's my song, I call no using it" when someone samples it or weird al straight up copies the melody. Weird Al being a good example. No. Weird al does not pay royalties on songs he parodies or require the permission of the artist he is parodying. If that were the case Amish paradise wouldn't exist. But he used content that didn't belong to him to create original content that is known as "derived content.". In the same way, an artist can use models that do not belong to them to create original, derived content. Blizzard is not in the right.
>>339139962
No. Porn, technically, isn't considered speech or expression.
This better not mean I won't see anymore Mercy deepthroat animations. I live for those.
Fuck, maybe I should learn SFM since so many of the people who use it are cowards.
>Kotaku did an impressively in-depth report on the phenomenon a few days ago
Oh damn, this is just like the Tifa doujin article. Are they seriously acting like this is a unique-to-Overwatch thing?
>>339140794
Hah. Goodn.
>>339140069
Not true.
Both Trademarks and Patents require active defense to remain valid in the eyes of the court, but Copyright does not. Nor does it have to be filed or registered. It just magically applies as soon as you create something.
The only times the court overrides your right to do whatever the hell you want with your copyright are fair use, and mechanical rights (namely, people are allowed to perform your work, such as music and plays, as long as they pay a licensing fee. They never need permission)
But there's no rule that says you must actively exercise your copyright or risk losing it, at least not in the US
>>339140704
In this analogy, Disney would be a grown ass man burning himself in multiple ways through multiple medias without commenting on it after the fact.
>>339140771
I'm almost positive HIV
Jk
I'm almost positive that sampling requires permission
Well considering the porn has been garbage so far, I'm not surprised.
At least Blizz has standards.
>>339140704
That´s a shitty analogy, because, blizzard is not a child, nor like a child, also, the effect is known for decades now, and companies like blizzard employ raving, marauding hordes of professionals to advise them on matters like these.
Which is why, if the catalyst for this purge really originates from blizzard, they know full well that the streisand effect will go into overdrive and the interest in overwatch will only increase, making this a deliberate move.
>artists chickened out and deleted their shit from tumblr
Good thing it's all been uploaded to other sites then.http://rule34hentai.net/post/list/overwatch/1
>>339140794
Are you being sarcastic
>>339140921
It does. See The Verve. Even when they got permission they lost the rights to their biggest song.
This just proves that Overwatch is a shitty game that only exists to create porn. You're better off playing Team Fortress 2. It's exactly the same game.
>>339140069
>copyright laws demand that you actively defend what's yours or you may lose those rights
That's not true. You don't need to take any effort whatsoever. You have copy rights automatically and they are yours for the lawful duration. You can draw a picture, drop it online and never think of it, but if everyone puts it on their website, you're free to sue and will definitely win and be awarded damages if you can prove you own the rights.
In other words, no, you don't need to do anything whatsoever to maintain copyright besides having proof of being the author.
>>339141037
>This just proves that Overwatch is a shitty game that only exists to create porn.
How does it prove that?
>You're better off playing Team Fortress 2.
hue hue hue cyka
>It's exactly the same game.
It's a better version of the same game.
This ain't gonna stop Shadman. What a hero.
>>339140371
He didn't make it up, that's how copyright law works. You are required to aggressively defend your IP, otherwise you basically forfeit your rights to it. The idea is if you're not going to stop people from infringing on your right, then you don't have that copyright anymore.
You know how video game companies always issue Cease and Desist orders to people making fan games? This is why they do it. If they allow people to make their own product with their copyrighted characters, then it weakens their copyright because now technically two people would have copyright to the work, the original creators and the people who made the fan game. The vidya company still owns the characters, but the people who made the fan game have the copyright for the game they made, which now includes characters already owned by someone else. See how this gets messy real quick?
>>339140794
Yes it is, however, it is also considered obscene, and as such is randomly regulated in various ways across these United States. Remember, there is no standard for obscenity, all a judge has to do is say "this is obscene", and the now obscene material is not protected speech.
Porn works are typically viewed as transformative, and so they fall under fair use, but if push comes to shove in a court of law, there's no real telling what technicality they will try to use to attack the porn. Sometimes they use copyright, like if they used a model that they didn't create. That is most likely the path that Blizzard is taking with Overwatch.
>>339140568
I thought they had to pay bazingillions to Hulk Hogan or some shit?
What happened to that? Are they simply not paying or what?
>>339140976
And an even better thing they'll stop creating garbage.
>>339140771
That's not how it works. At all.
First of all, sampling and covering are different, as there are two different copyrights in the underlying song and the recording... Blizzard, similarly, has two different copyrights in the character DESIGNS and the actual character MODELS.
You can create pornographic parody with your own hands just as you can create a cover song, but to use the actual models would be like sampling the audio recording, which IS a copyright violation.
>>339141143
Shad doesn't use SFM. It has nothing to do with him.
>>339141059
100% wrong. I suggest you do a bit of research before you post about legal issues, buddy. If copyright were that simple, Disney wouldn't constantly be pushing for extensions of copyright and their rights to defend it.
>>339141143
>Shadman
>>339141150
But that's bullshit.
>>339141185
It's going through appeals court. When that happens there's a hold on payment of judgement. If appeals court upholds that's when they have to pay up or face criminal charges.
>>339140972
Or maybe the legal division issued cease and desist letters to SFM artists and this isn't actually a super genius marketing ploy.
>But Blizzard is smart dude they would do something like this...
You're making an assumption that, because we are hearing about this company, their actions were done for PR, as if they sat down in a board room and planned out "Hey let's ban our porn so people talk about us". I can tell you that discussion almost certainly never happened.
>>339141247
What are your credentials? I'm not asking for diploma scans, just some justification to start googling up. We're anonymous, so no need to lie here. Are you in any way qualified to explain copyright law? Maybe my understanding is wrong.
>People unironically think ripping out a model from a videogame and using it for profit is "fair use"
>>339141162
The new porn with the SFM models is certainly transformative. So I don't see how they can say it's identical to the original work (overwatch)
>>339141150
Wrong. Trademarks must be actively defended which is why you have to go after fan games, Copyrights do not.
There's actually a good reason for this (namely that it would be possible to accidentally violate Trademark, and that Trademark law hinges on "likelihood of causing confusion", so good faith effort has to be made), but Copyright does not require active defense to remain valid.
>>339139640
>PCgamer
>"Kotaku did an impressively in-depth report on"
Sounds like a load of shit.
>>339140156
Then movie reviewers should re-shoot and recreate the scenes themselves.
>Blizzard
lel, how's that shitty Warcraft movie working for you?
good job assholes. you're gonna make even more porn.
gonna take a stab at it.
>>339141059
If we were simply talking about a random person who drew a picture and put it online, then yes, you would be right. However, copyright law on a corporate scale involving commercial products is very different. Companies are required by copyright law to defend their IP. In the case of Overwatch, Tracer in particular is basically the mascot of the game, and therefore part of the branding. If Blizzard allows people to use the model of her they created, it damages the branding by allowing people to associate her with other things. Fan art is fine, but actually using the 3D model ripped from the game is not.
>>339141247
So because Disney renews their copywrites, Blizzard will lose their creative license because someone is infringing on it? What are you babbling about?
>>339141150
That's only true for trademarks these days.
It used to be true for copyright, much like copyrights used to have an expiry date.
Both of those have been effectively dropped because corporations like Disney would lose millions if their copyrights expired, so they aggressively lobby to keep extending the expiry date.
>Thinly veiled Overwatch porn thread
>No one has even posted anything remotely pornographic
Disappointed in you /v/
>>339140976
Says site is offline.
>>339141309
Not him, and not a professional, but I went to college for music and I had a whole year on copyright, contract law, etc., since artists need to know it.
I couldn't defend you in court but I know more than the basics of how IP law works...
And I'm telling you that you are right. Copyright is AUTOMATIC, it does not require active defense. In fact, it has to be ACTIVELY licensed away, which is the whole reason that the Creative Commons license exists.
>>339141312
>For profit
Most people are posting dickgirl widowmaker throat fucking tracer for the wank enjoyment of others
>>339141324
Ah, so that's where he went wrong. I was pretty certain that you can't lose copyright no matter what, but he was kinda convincing, at least in terms of being able to type like a human being and all.
So, he was wrong after all. Makes sense. Copyright is automatic and does not need to be registered or any other action to mantain, that's how I always understood the current international concept.
>>339141309
Don't really have any credentials, I just took 4 business law classes in college. If you want I'll dig out one of my old textbooks and scan the pages on corporate copyright law.
>>339141312
The only people who profit are the people who manufacture the zippers that keep bursting on my pants
>>339139640
>Kotaku
>Impressive
>in-depth
>report
Into the trash it gooooooooes!
>>339141445
That's because they jew on their server space and can't handle all the traffic they get.
Keep refreshing and you'll get it eventually.
>>339141461
And how would you comment on this?
>>339141324
Source Shitmakers BTFO
Maybe now they can start working on stuff themselves instead of shitty copied models being passed around in a bunch of 3 second long loops
>>339141445
It's been slow for months. They can't handle the traffic for shit.
>>339140395
some of them are paid more than the standard blizz employee trough patreon and the like
you don't know how much cash a person will give another for specialised porn anon
>>339141465
wiht a link to their patreon in the description and a note that this has been commissioned by floppywiener97.
>>339141150
If I made porn using Halo models and they didn't take it down, I do not then own the rights to masterchief.
>>339141312
It's not. What we're wondering is why Blizzard cares, because all that porn does is popularize their game. In fact, I wouldn't have known about the retarded online shooter had I not watched a bunch of sexy webms, and now I kinda borderline want to try it out, sorta.
>>339141579
clearly donations. :^)
>>339141278
I see.
>>339141557
And you don't know how much it would cost to fight a legal battle with ActivisionBlizzard.
>>339141579
Depends. Sometimes.
I've seen original 3d art that's far worse require pattern donation for full access to full size images of 100% original images. And, I warn you, it wasn't pretty.
>tfw I made alot of overwatch sfm porn and rule 34
>tfw I'm also living in a third world country with no copyright law
I want to see them try taking down my porn
>>339141513
>>339141540
Holy kek
Thats hilarious, they must be making thousands in ad space
>>339141579
Patreon is a gray area when it comes to that
The artist isn't receiving money for specifically making Overwatch porn, or Nintendo porn, or Harry Potter porn or whatever.
They're being paid to produce ambiguous content, and to support their lifestyle as an artist or content creator. It just happens that that content is Overwatch porn.
That extra layer of ambiguity is what lets it be "legal" for artists to get paid over the table to make porn.
>>339139640
My question is why don't they just embrace the porn? Why don't any of them embrace the porn?
Clearly there is a demand and a market for the stuff, so much so that amateurs are making it by haphazardly slapping 3D models together in SFM and millions of third worlders and 14 years olds are beating off to it.
Why don't they get some professionals on that and put out some good quality porn and monetize it somehow, run ads, charge a fee, something. They could make millions on this shit for what is seriously some low effort stuff. This shit is so low effort one guy in his mom's basement is getting millions of views off something he threw together over a weekend using SFM. Imagine what a small professional team with a modest budget, motion capture equipment and actual skill could produce, and then imagine how much more popular this shit could be if it actually had that behind it.
I mean this is potentially something that could make as much money a game itself because the overhead is so low but the demand is so high.
>>339141490
I would say you should sue the school for wasting your time but you'd probably lose
Haha get it?
>>339139640
maybe blizzard wants to commercialize some overwatch porn on their own?
>>339141708
Is your porn hosted on a local server? because if its on shit like tumblr it won't matter what third world country you live in.
>>339139640
Please don't look at overwatch porn. I've heard it's really good though. But please don't.
Don't look at all the cute girls. Please don't get turned on by all the character designs which are the main appeal of the game.
We really don't want that. Stop looking at all the great porn marketing. Stop. It is really good though.
SUBTLE.
>>339141634
i'm just saying they could possibly at least engage a legal response if the artists band together
who the fuck cares anyway
its not like people are going to stop animating shit all of a sudden even if blizz decides to shit on someone as an example
they'll just do it anonymously, most do already
>>339141612
24 hours ago, I was ready to buy the game. In that time, I have been convinced by Blizzard and its staff not to.
>>339141634
Do you really think ActiBliz is gonna waste their time to go to court on a case that would clearly be fair use? By killing a few videos now they hope to avoid the game being synonymous with pornography, as was the case with Erin Esurarance.
>It's their models
This makes me wonder how Rooster Teeth haven't been taken for all their worth by Bungie/Microsoft for using Halo assets in RvB.
>>339141742
If they did it in complete secrecy under an unaffiliated name as well, it could be a goldmine.
>>339141742
>My question is why don't they just embrace the porn? Why don't any of them embrace the porn?
That's the question.
Maybe they googled the game and found porn links above store links or something. That would hurt the image, so they thought they'd scale the porn down a bit, hence this.
I doubt it's because they're prudes or retards. They'd do anything for money, they'd perform in that porn for money if it paid more than selling microtransactions.
>>339141742
Porn is dirty, my man.
>>339141436
It was NEVER true of copyright, and Copyright duration is not infinite. Disney's big contribution to copyright law was just extending the duration for "works of corporate authorship" which originally fell far short of the "life + 50 years" (now life + 70), mostly because film studios and record labels were unsure if works that were made by authors under outside corporate financing would be treated by the courts as corporate-made or author-made and the wide gap distinction could theoretically make a shit-ton of stuff fair use much sooner than expected.
Also understand that the idea behind copyright extension past death is that it should theoretically be able to provide some financial well-being to your heirs, so they periodically update it when life expectancy numbers change.
>>339141780
Yeah hosted in my own site on a local Serb that doesn't give a fuck about copyright
>>339140156
Sampling in every hip hop song gets away with it.
>>339141792
Really? What happened?
>>339139841
they aren't original anymore
they were changed with the nudity.
unless they somehow had nudity models in the game files themselves..
but blizzard wouldn't own that
they have no legal means to remove the porn.
>no you can't have a proper sequel to diablo 2
>no you can't have legacy wow servers
>no you can't have overwatch porn
it's like blizzard hates fun
they should do something good for once and spend all this effort getting rid of wow furry porn instead
>>339141847
Damn, then link up the goods man. Let's see some examples.Especially Mercy stuff.
>>339141798
And now they have Flo.
>>339141827
>That would hurt the image
No.
Now instead of getting porn links, you get PLS REMOVE PORN links. Which is essentially the same thing.
It's all a marketing ploy. Any exposure is good exposure.
The character designs were made to turn people on. They knew this would happen.
>>339141438
This is a blue board, fuck off to /aco/.
>>339141718
I would be unsurprised if a precedent is set that artists have to somehow shell out due to profiting partially from others creations
The internet never forgets. It doesn't matter if the image was only available for 3 seconds, someone somewhere saved it and they will post it again.
>Implying they're trying to get rid of it
They're driving up demand to get more people talking and interested in the game
>>339141847
Many people think their third-world countries are safer than legality-heavy first-world ones, but they're often wrong. For example, making and distributing porn in Russia is a criminal offense, and this includes drawings and even plain text. Are you sure you're safe in your jurisdiction? Not only may the penalties be much harsher, but the processdings would be much less fair than in the US, where at worst you'll get a C&D notice.
Again, in Russia (don't know about Serbia, but fucked if it's better) you can go to jail for seeding a porn torrent (not even uploading the original file, just downloading and seeding). People HAVE gone to jail for that. Same in Belarus. Check your local laws. "Lawless" is rarely better than law-heavy, especially lawless-conservative.
>>339139640
#WhereistheFairUse
Maybe they intend to sell it themselves.
>>339141438
You've got /aco/ and /gif/ for that. We still need sound webms site wide though.
>>339141881
A Blizzard GM, or, someone claiming to be one came into a thread about someone who wanted a refund, something about it not being clearly placed, did a charge back. The "GM" was acting like a severe cunt.
>>339141903
One thing I'm certain is bullshit is that it's a marketing ploy. This certainly it is not.
Overwatch is marketed heavy enough and known widely enough to not have to resort to anti-PR that angers most of your target demographics.
>>339141798
>Do you really think ActiBliz is gonna waste their time to go to court on a case that would clearly be fair use?
Yes, they most certainly would.
Where can I find good rape SFM of Overwatch women? No futa shit.
>>339142190
>>339141742
The SJW's, Angry mothers and other disgusting normies would cry out in disgust and try to demonize Blizzard because "muh children!"
>>339142024
Blizzardrone is going all out
>>339141840
>so they periodically update it when life expectancy numbers change
Do you honestly believe that this is why it keeps getting extended?
>>339140069
This isn't true. The models are altered both in animation and in the fact that they're often nude.
It's transformative, which falls under fair use.
>>339141742
>Why don't any of them embrace the porn?
Because porn is smut and for a company to become associated with porno to that degree is the same thing as committing marketing suicide.
>>339141831
Yeah I don't buy that man.
I don't think no one is doing it just because they fear a puritanical backlash from sissy ass liberal moms who want to ban video games. They could make a separate team that makes this shit like it's a big viral marketing campaign. You remember how viral marketing campaigns used to host bogus websites for bogus companies that don't actually exist.
They could do that, but with porn, so it seems unauthorized and unofficial when it's actually made by the same people.
There has got to be some other reason why this isn't done when it could be making them ass loads of money.
>>339142092
Not him
But we don't have copyright laws here either and the government doesn't give a fuck about anything on internet unless its about political and anti government shit
>>339142228
That is the effect it had though. The entire internet was talking about Overwatch porn and by extension Overwatch itself.
It's basically free marketing.
>>339142140
That seems likely, they'll probably release video making tools for the engine including all assets and charge a premium to use it.
>>339142190
>No futa shit.
Haha.
>>339139640
>But it's recently come to light that someone, presumably Blizzard, is working to have it all taken down.
*working to make porn artists do more in "protest"
>>339142190
>No futa
https://youtu.be/vsIyphGp0Vc
>>339142320
It doesn't matter, the point is that it wasn't intended.
>>339142172
Pretty much, they can afford the court fees, the person they're bringing to court probably can't, and that's what they're banking on.
>>339141530
Both of those posts are the same person. I know because I wrote them. So obviously I'd agree.
>>339141426
Actually this is an interesting point. Blizzard owns a copyright in the model, so it doesn't need defending, but with Tracer being a MASCOT, she might actually be a Trademarked image as well, in which case she WOULD need active defense to remain valid, at least as a Trademark.
That may seem irrelevant since even if the Trademark on Tracer was suspended/overturned the copyright would still protect her, but there are some fair-use and derivative work rules that apply to characters/imagery which DON'T apply to Trademarked ones. For example you could probably advertise a video game competition with characters from competitive videogames as fair use, but if those characters are registered trademarks, you are inviting confusion that the companies behind those characters are behind the event... Shit like that.
Not that they thought that far ahead but I could definitely see a lawyer advising them "go after anything with any prominent box art characters"
>shitty western porn will be censored
>>339142276
>marketing suicide
This isn't the1950s snon.
Marketing these days can be effective since the internet allows the most gullible retards to fall for your sales pitch.
>>339139640
> Gee guys, stop sexualizing our oversexualized characters :^)
>>339139640
The thing is that IF Blizzard actually tried to take down the porn and only ONE artist doesn't remove it or gets their stuff removed and goes public, the press will hop onto that shit in no time.
Blizzard are doing this just do "put in some effort" to remove r34.
If Blizzard were to sue the artist they would loose the case, instantly. Plus it would them get a ton of bad press.
There is literally no chance to remove r34 for anything, ever.
>>339142459
What the fuck is this. Is it real? Why does it exist?
Studio Fow had an interesting take about Blizzard and SFM porn.
>some people don’t realize what happened last year where the SJWs painted a big red cross over our backs for daring to make a crappy Draenei waifu movie.
>Or the fact that Blizz attorneys (Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp) doxxed me
>Or the fact that I had to dip into my personal savings to keep the studio afloat so we could get attorneys to fight back (this was before we had monthly patreon)
>Or the fact that I had to finish that project knowing that any day could be the last, going from work mode, to attorney meetings, to Blizz legal meetings, then somehow having to mentally gather myself again to focus on delivering for the Patrons
>Or the fact that Blizz attorneys threatened me to hand over personal information on fellow SFM artists so they can C&D them (disclaimer: I didnt - instead I refused Blizz, and then got stabbed in the back later by the SFM artists I protected, just another example of our classy community)
>Blizzard is a draconian, corrupt, and two faced entity. Don’t believe a word when they say they support fan-works, they don’t support it and never did. They tolerate it to suit their needs for self promotion. Blizzard has a legal obligation to aggressively pursue litigation against anyone that uses the likeness of their characters. If they don’t pursue artists they lose their copyrights so every year their legal team cherry picks a number of people to go after - just so they can have it on record that they’ve protected their IP and thus keep their copyrights. If you’re a WoW artist it’s like playing Russian roulette, except they have a gazillion dollars worth of bullets in the chamber.
CONT...
>>339140574
Even if they paid for the movie themselves they would still have enough money to do it mutiple times over and have it fail every time.
>>339142525
Feminism of course
>>339142259
Transformative is ONE prerequisite of fair use, not the only one. If merely being transformative was sufficient to establish fair use then musicians wouldn't get sued over sampling and lose.
This is just an attempt for free publicity
>HEY GUIZE OUR NEW GAME IS SO GOOD THAT WE'RE REMOVING PORN OF THIS GAME SO IT REALLY NEEDS ATTENTION
They never cared about the porn of sfm wow characters and this doesn't even make sense at all in hindsight
>>339142534
>The only reason we got off lightly was because A) I didn’t stand for their smoke and mirrors shit B) They couldn’t pin anything on us since all our models are custom hacks C) We are nonprofit/non-commercial and driven by donations D) Transformative Fair Use can be applied to our work
>However it’s not a process I’m happy to repeat because I have better things to do than argue semantics all day with jumped up, tiny, hypocrit attorneys. Remember, for them it doesn’t matter if they win or not, they just need to draw it out for as long as possible so they can keep billing Morhaime exorbitant sums.
>So yeah, sorry if you don’t get your Overwatch waifus but there are more important things in life such as looking out for my team and feeding families.
Tldr: Advocates are no-life morons who think to some kind of knights in shining armor that will bring justice even if their methods are morally wrong (and hey guess where law came from)
>>339142259
Fair use is a legal doctrine, not a law per se. It's an affirmative defense that you use after being sued for copyright infringement and hope the judge agrees with you.
Even if you win you'll still have paid staggering sums of money in lawyer fees and gained nothing but a slightly stronger legal foothold for other people who later get sued for the same thing you did.
>>339142610
No it's not
Nobody had that meeting
>>339142534
>Blizzard has a legal obligation to aggressively pursue litigation against anyone that uses the likeness of their characters. If they don’t pursue artists they lose their copyrights
Trademarks.
But obviously this guy's misspeaking has driven a lot of confusion about copyright ITT.
>>339142575
Oh noes, there it is again
>>339142380
Says who?
>>339141612
Because it gets /v/ talking about Overwatch
>>339141708
they are not contacting the artists they are contacting the hosting sites like mega. and mega of course doesn't fight it they immediately take down any and every request without even looking into it. so artists are having their entire libraries pulled down from the itnernet. it's especially annoying when it happens to a defunct animator and the work never gets reupped.
Name one artist who have stopped making Overwatch porn due to legal threats. One.
>>339142525
http://archive.is/IC5Cm
yep, it's feminism
>>339139640
How does one even find the newest r34?
Is there a specific site that let's me browse through the newest overwatch porn, or do I have to search for it myself?
>>339142575
The perfect visual summation of the nu-male.
>>339142575
Shoo shoo cuck gobelin
>>339142575
How many filters, blur tools or distortions were used in the modification of this man's face?
I refuse to believe that I share any amount of genetics with this children's nightmare, please do not tell me he is British or I will immediately microwave my testicles.
>>339142709
Occams Razor
His shitty, illogical razor
But seriously you're a jiggaboo
Any publicity is good publicity. Even if it's negative it's still getting eyes on your product, even if the publicity is "X is shit", people will still buy X to see how shit it really is. That's just how the world works.
>>339142806
Zero
>>339142770
StudioFOW literally will not shut up about how "NOBODY CARES ABOUT OVERWATCH PORN" ever since they got Blizzard threats for their shitty WoW video.I really grew to hate StudioFOW. It went from being decent porn to being an extremely mediocre attempt at comedy and a Tumblr blog where some pathetic loser just roleplays as a cutesy girl all day. And their porn is getting tamer and tamer so as not to offend the Tumblrites. Biggest cowards of all the SFM animators out there. Fucking garbage.
>>339142764
Why do people not host it on some legal haven then? The pirate bay keeps recovering.
Then again there isn't really a service like MEGA out there that looks good, gives you good service and plenty of storage + insane speeds. A shame, that.
>>339142985
Damn I was actually hoping they'd do one.
>>339142820
By Occam's Razor a cynical marketing ploy from a giant corporation is a very simple and logical answer.
Hanlon's Razor would be more appropriate to the point you're trying to make.
>>339142989
Because it's just porn
>>339142459
Anon, please. Use the right term. It's being localized.
just rename the porn tags to bonerwatch or something
>>339142224
How would they? It isn't explicitly linked as professional or even acknowledged by Blizzard.
It's its own special little division working under a different name, It's fucking I Love Bees but instead of a stupid ass ARG it's producing porn made by a small team of professionals.
I'd be fucking impressed if angry mother's groups actually did the due diligence to find out that some random smutty webzone hosting computer game lewds is actually an arm of Blizzard devoted to making official porn and raking in the cash.
>>339142985
>their porn is getting tamer and tamer so as not to offend the Tumblrites
I'll never stop being upset about this. I backed their Patreon for that WoW video and voted for all the stuff they promised would be "hardcore and violent" and despite it winning the final product was nothing but the most boring vanilla bullshit.
>>339142313
Check your local laws. You might actually be in danger. Also, check the press. Google for any people getting jailed for porn in your country (if any).
Sometimes a police officer would need to increase the number of "crimes" solved this month and scour popular sites for any fuckos to jail. This repeatedly happens in ex-Soviet Bloc countries, which anti-pornography laws are very common. You'd think it can't happen or is very unlikely, but it actually is even less likely to get a C&D from Blizzard than to be targeted by your local police, and Blizzard wouldn't try to put you in jail either.
Go check your laws and google about for any porn-related jailings. Maybe Serbia is exempt from that shit.
QUICK
SAVE ALL THE SFM WEBMS
FUUUUCK
>>339143091
Wrong.
"Hey let's ban our porn so we get PR!"
Words that were never spoken. It's a legal team cease and desist order.
>>339143125
Doesn't really have the same effect when it's made in the west.
>Ellowas has had to remove all his stuff from tumblr
>He was just working on Mercy
Fuck sake
>>339139640
Why would you want to stop it? It's basically free advertisement to your main demographic -- horny teenagers and manchildren who fap to cartoons. The only reason this game caught my attention in the first place was because of the porn
>>339139640
>>You may have heard something recently about the sudden, not-at-all-surprising proliferation of Overwatch... well, porn. Kotaku did...
>Kotaku
>19th Overwatch thread up on /v/ right now
Can you jackasses fuck off?
Where is the fucking /v/ mods at for this shittyass board?
>>339142296
You have any friends man? Seriously asking.
Because I do, and I know the looks i'll get from people if they would know the game I play is associated with a porn brand heavily.
It would be no different than someone playing Senran Kagura.
>>339143091
How is an elaborate plan more likely than what is being actually reported as fact you stupid nigger?
>>339143174
>This repeatedly happens in ex-Soviet Bloc countries
[citation needed]
I'm from one of those countries and he only time anyone here cared about copyright law at all was when local musicians banded together and lobbied to get their shitty songs off locally hosted torrent sites.
Other than that the police has never given a shit.
>>339143281
> know the looks i'll get from people if they would know the game I play is associated with a porn brand heavily.
Who the fuck are you talking to that both knows the specific scale of the porn community of a certain online video game and would look down on you for it? And why would you care anyway?
>>339143258
>stop talking about videogames!
If nobody cared the threads would be bumped off
>>339143187
It's already been done.
>>339142708
He looks like a cartoon character.
>>339142092
Russia is way different than most third world countries in their strict censorship you know, besides the middle east.
>>339143187
>tfw started saving them way before these news
>>339139904
it does in america.
playing as a genocidal soldier mawing down thoursands of people with guns, knifes, tanks, chopper and other explosives is fine.
but God help us if you show some cleavage
>>339143492
Smart man. Remove sound. Post on /gif/. Unless gif allows sounds. Then neat and post them.
>>339143379
>[citation needed]
Fucking google it, you imbecile.
Copyright law has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about porn production and distribution. Illegal in Russia, Belarus and many other related countries. You draw a hentai picture, upload it to dvach and you can go to jail if the local police feels like it. People go to jail several times a year for stuff like posting porn on VK or even seeding torrents of porn.
I was talking to a Serbian guy who made cg porn animations and thought it safer to keep his shit local. I don't know about Serbia, but in many Eastern European countries it's actually less safe than int he West.
>>339143187
Mercy is the only one who does anything for me, and she had so few good animations out that I had already started saving all the ones I wanted long before this news.
>>339143476
He looks like the wacky friend who is always eating sandwiches and bumbling through the episode
>c90 soon
>caring about shitty western porn
The real question is how is the game doing in japan.
>>339143613
Holy shit he looks like sjw shaggy.
>>339143592
most of them are on /gif/ anyway
>>339140079
Kek. But seriously, this.
>>339143491
Censorship only relates to politics. The rest is like anywhere else. LGBT get attacked and censired, but only because of their connections to liberalism, because the government is very conservative at the moment.
But the porn distribution laws are a thing. Buying, watching or owning porn if 100% legal, but making and distributing it isn't. Uploading to 4chan counts as distributing. Writing sexy text counts as making. Every now and then, a person goes to jail for seeding torrents or uploading a nude somewhere.
If it means fewer SFM threads on /gif/ then I support this.
>>339143723
Rad. Does gif have sound on its webms?
>>339143492
Please share them on /d/ and lewd sites!
>>339143586
>Masturbate so much that I can't even get off without something depraved or gay
>Would have to make an evening of it if I ever wanted to actually cum from the SFM or 2D drawings
>Haven't had pleasure from an orgasm in years
I'm glad they're banning it!!!
>tfw I work as a character designer for a game company and porn artists that double or even triple my salary a month lewdifying my work complain that they don't like it when the game company I work for sends them cease and desist letters.
>>339143626
I see eroquis among others liking several pieces of OW fan art on pixiv, and J stream of the game on twitch with a couple thousand viewers
>>339143778
Yes.
>>339143778
go there and find out
Does this apply only to the girls?
SEEING D.VA GETTING FUCKED BY MEGACOCKS IS MY HUMAN RIGHT
>>339143281
> I know the looks i'll get from people if they would know the game I play is associated with a porn brand heavily.
But you played overwatch, mass effect, bioshock infinite, basically anything by nintendo and maybe even the new tomb raider? They're all huge in the SFM porn scene yet none of that crosses over into the main stream image of the games despite the fact that apparently millions of people are jerking it to SFM porn relating to these characters. They aren't going to be advertizing this on their front page "DOWNLOAD OUR LATEST OFFCIAL PORN R18+ ONLY" because they don't need to, if the quality is good enough and millions are already finding this stuff on their own they wouldn't need to just putting it out there would be enough.
The question is why aren't the companies getting in on this and keeping their involvement on the D/L.
>You have any friends man? Seriously asking.
Probably more than you. Thing is I'm not so much of an autistic sperg that I share with everyone what I beat it to or that I spend most of my free time playing video games. I'm pretty damn sure not one of my friends or coworkers know as a teen I was a huge fan of Sogna games and that love of ero VNs is still with me to this day.
>>339143778
Yes. /gif/ and /wsg/ are the only places on this site that allow sound.
>>339143894
Double rad.
>>339139640
>come to light that someone, presumably Blizzard, is working to have it all taken down
Really? Because some people reported that it was Activison
>>339143687
>>339142575
Like, Scoob, we gotta get off this bus, too many men are spreading their legs and making racially charged comments at me!
>needing porn anymore
If you can achieve trance or lucidity you can fuck all the overwatch characters you want, however you want and experience it however you like.
>>339144058
Underrated post
>>339144058
RUH ROH
>>339143187
well, yeah. Emergency maneuvers and whatnot.
>>339143190
....not exactly seeing this the right way.
The Kotaku Article was originally set out by Nathan Grayson and the amount of detail that went into hitting every note on the way down is preditorially precise.
If I didn't know any better, I'd swear the sole function of the article was made with the intention to incite people into working themselves up into a froth.
I mean, Blizzard probably knew, but didn't give a damn about any of this until Kotaku published the Article, and since Kotaku/Gawker is already having a PR disaster all over the news, they're most likely willing to not only go down swinging, but willing to do as much damage s they can going down, hoping to cause enough of a shitstorm to validate themselves to the world for having good reason to not go under.
What better way to do that then to antagonize gamers who have consistently taken bait and stirred a shitstorm like Gamergate? Take away more of their fap-fuel by shining a gigantic flashlight on it so Blizzard would be forced to take action... because everybody's got eyes on Gawker's sinking ship and that's just bad press for Gawker to run a meticulously-detailed article like that one.
If none of this seems to be clicking with you, just honestly ask yourself:
"What possible motive could Kotaku have in running an article this damn detailed? What would they possibly gain?"
Look at that shitty article again and ask yourself "why" with each paragraph and every line and the motive practically tells itself.
>>339142781
>nu-male
Says the omega
>>339142561
but they still don't have enough resources for legacy server or an expansion that is not half assed and with actual content.
:^)
>>339142459
Men split in vehicles because of how physics works and no one wants to feel their balls rubbing each other. any male agreeing to this is just a numale
>>339143738
>But the porn distribution laws are a thing
Yeah in Russia and the middle east. Also the UK and Australia recently for certain topics, goes to show how fucked up those countries have become.
>>339143946
They are one and the same.
>>339144205
They have the money, they'd just rather not spend it and know retards will buy it anyway regardless.
>>339144318
"NTR"
>>339144185
Well, fuck.
>>339139640
>or so I'm told! I swear!!
>>339144240
>austrailia thinks that A cups on females is CP
I'm surprised everyone in that continent isn't overrun by their emu overlords yet
>>339139640
lizzard is a company deeply entangled with the net. Sounds like a plan to use the Streisand effect to make the game even more widespread.
Clever girl...
Blizzard really has gone full SJW
