Creatures in the Doom series are not actually demons, they're really extraterrestrial aliens on another planet that the humans accidentially opened a teleportation gateway to.
Discuss.
>>339112513
Then what about all the satanic imagery everywhere?
>>339112513
then why are they all over hell too when you get there checkmate atheists
there is nothing to discuss...they tried this in the shitty doom movie and no one liked it
>>339112661
Well, do you remember Galaxy Quest?
>>339112661
Clearly remnants of the aliens' local culture, check your human privilege.
>>339112661
At some point in the distant past some guy saw this dimension and based the Bible on it.
Not saying I believe it, but thats the common theory.
That's stupid. They're just guys in costumes for a Scooby Doo scheme.
>>339112661
Stupid humans just made connection to non-existence relationships.
It's all just a coincident that humans *think* they look like religious stuff.
>>339112513
That's just what the FSB wants you to think. Wake up, Taggart! We need to find out what the hell these Russians are doing!
Take this shotgun. It's great for killing enemies.
>>339112513
they actually represent niggers
>>339112513
That's the plot of the books
>>339112734
This theory predates the movie. Even in Final Doom they were sometimes called Aliens.
>>339112962
>post text that dismiss religion
>still posts BC
kek
Then again, doesn't the Bible say Hell isn't all fire and demons, its just the absence of God? And its only as bad as you make it out to be?
>>339113469
Funny, that's already what being alive feels like.
>>339112841
human soul go there when dead, it's hell
>>339113197
As if it makes any difference. There's no point of making the distinction between a Common Era and what was before if Christ is still the thing that separates the two.
>>339113684
No, it's quantum mechanics at work.
It's the law of conservation of energy.
Something has to go somewhere.
And by chance sometimes dead people's particles end up on another planet.
>>339112513
If the demons are aliens explain the lost soul and the Demon's ability to turn humans into zombies...also why are they stealing human technology if they got satanic magic n' shit?
>>339113469
The absence of God is certainly a part of it, but it also makes it clear that being in Hell involves a lot of "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Besides, as all good things come from God, a place that has God absent is bad in every sense of the word.
>>339113940
>also why are they stealing human technology if they got satanic magic n' shit?
Cuz why not? Take a big-ass demon, give him a rocket launcher... there is literally no downside to this.
>>339113940
Alien technology doesn't have to explain shit. They assimilate your shit and as they have done to many other planets.
Go play some Mass Effect if you don't understand that.
>>339112513
I believe the ancient mars aliens accidentally opened a portal to hell, and they attempted to seal it away and mark it so that it wouldnt be opened, and then scientists who came to mars later accidentally opened it while translating the ancient texts telling them not to open it
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>>339114164
>I believe
Stop that. It's aliens, not Satan.
People who say the demons in Doom are just "aliens" have to be some of the most boring faggots ever. What makes Doom so badass is that you're a space marine fighting literal demons from literal Hell. Why would you ruin that badass image by just making them aliens?
They're demons from hell, end of story. Shut the fuck up and just accept it.
>>339114085
I don't think Demon's have assimilated any other planets unless Imps, mancubai, Barons of hell and hell knights are all different alien species...which is doubtful because human contact is the only contact hell has had. Also I'm well versed with Warhammer I know how technology assimilating works, I don't need to play a shittier Sci-fi game.
>>339114312
Then again, what are "demons"?
Can they be..... by chance just a label some ancient humans gave to alien creatures they encountered?
>>339114461
No. That's lame. Fuck you.
The developers themselves said they're fucking demons, this isn't up for debate.
>>339114279
Nah, it's actually just the cybernetic and genetically engineered army of mad scientist and part time video game developer and gas station attendant, John "Gonna make you his Bitch" Romero
>>339114409
>Did not tip your fedora.
You almost had me there.
>>339112962
>able but not willing is malevolent
nah, malevolent would be going out of your way to bring harm on others. According to the Bible, God gave humans free will to dick around as we please. He just doesn't give a fuck whether or are good or bad.
As a diehard Doom fan I become extremely triggered when people call the demons "aliens."
Please delete this thread.
>>339113908
Ok now you're an idiot
So then angels are aliens too?
>>339114025
But then how the fuck do Demons know how the technology works? I'm kind of baffled that these facilities are cleared out so quickly by fireballs and cheap pounce attacks when humans have battlesuits and plasma guns.
>>339114584
>le dibs fedora after roasting shit tier sci-fi
Fucking heretic.
>>339114672
>those demon bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride
- Brick Dickem, 1874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgV6ZvCpEH4&ab_channel=LeifJohnson
I can't help but think that SMT: Strange Journey got some inspiration from Doom.
>>339112513
They are demons you dipshit, at the end of the first episode you get killed and respawn in hell, then come out of hell killing whoever motherfucker dares to stand in your way
PLAY
THE
FUCKING
GAME
>>339114668
>free will meme
>creators of the game.
>literally fucking say they're demons
>literally fucking say you fight demons in hell.
>people still try to debate that it isn't.
>>339114878
>anti-free will meme
>this entire thread
>>339114956
the divine plan goes against the entire idea of free will
>>339114928
It's because retarded athiests are incomfortable with the premise of hell or anything religious even in fictional entertainment
>Lol it's aliens there is no god in vidya
>>339114956
>>339114878
hedonistic irrational, mindless "will" without a rational ethics and contextual hierarchy of values
What if they're both demons and aliens? As far as I'm aware Hell could be just another planet in the universe.
>it's a lost primarch goes into the Warp to fuck up daemons episode
>>339112513
But that's what demons are, dumbass
Also this
>>339112661
>>339115248
That's........ actually quite logical.
>>339115153
is that actually referred to in any texts or is it just something Christians made up?
Hell as an alternate dimension actually makes sense, and this movie proves it.
>>339115289
The "Satanic" images are just normal stuff on that planet.
Humans had to give it a name when they first saw it and created the whole "demons", "Satan" and "hell" wordmemes.
>>339115383
>Not available for streaming on Netflix
Why do I pay $8 a month for it again?
>>339112513
doesnt matter what they are, they fuckin suck dude
>>339114668
>He just doesn't give a fuck whether or are good or bad.
Pretty much the entire old testament disagrees
>>339115248
Hell isn't just a planet, it's a whole other dimension.
>>339114164
This sort of thing(warning a future civilization of something) is a big problem. I've read about nuclear waste dumps and how they're trying to develop a way to warn future generations of it. Because all language as we know of today could eventually become extinct.
Why would people purosely choose to interpret a game in the least exciting, most generic way possible?
Doom is fun because you're fighting fucking demons. Doom 3 had this spooky dread to it because you're fighting hell itself, which if you were to really encounter in real life would be truly maddening. The personal logs with scientists going mad just by seeing hell are really cool.
There are about 39,000 video games where you fight aliens. Can't we have one where you fight demons?
>>339112513
Great job, you and every other 16 year old who just got into Doom found out about the books written for young adults more than 10 years ago.
>>339115181
Get out Rand. Only real philosophers allowed.
>>339114005
The whole fire and brimstone thing didn't come about until the middle ages pretty sure.
>>339115383
You mean it's better to pretend it's a 40k prequel.
>>339115479
I mean maybe he actually does care, but he won't intervene
cause of the covenant with abram and noah and all
>extraterrestrial aliens are sentient beings from anywhere but earth
>demons are from hell, not earth
>"not actually demons, they're really extraterrestrial aliens"
The definition of extraterrestrial aliens encompasses demons, angels, heaven, hell, and all the dimensions between. If God created Earth then he isn't from Earth which makes him an alien.
>>339115590
Except for the part in Revelation where it talks about all the people being thrown into the lake of burning sulfur for the rest of eternity.
>>339115383
Is this movie good?
>>339115675
It's difficult to disagree if you put it like that.
>>339112513
Argent energy and everything about the Soul Cube and the Doom Slayer says otherwise.
>>339115750
I like it.
>>339115768
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
kek. cavemen
>>339114668
It is absolutely malevolence.
>make humans
>invent "free will" (non-existant but we'll put a pin in that)
>by creating it it is inferred it understands its workings
>God would be able to predict with all accuracy what people will do with "free will" as given and defined by God
>God has knowingly given us the capacity for evil, for no reason, then tells us it's our fault for being predisposed to an attribute it created in us
It's the most evil act there ever was, assuming that's what happened. I don't get how people buy into the God meme when it's so easily attacked from all angles.
>>339115867
>ignores the entire point
Woopidy fucking doo, argent waves literally corrupt people. Continued direct exposure to argent energy makes them go crazy and work for the demons.
>>339115750
The first 30 minutes had me excited, but it goes off the rails and full retard pretty quickly, and turns out to be terrible. It's a neat idea though, you should watch it.
>>339115994
that whole argument hinges on whether or not you can "prove" free will is a myth
>>339112513
aliens are demons you dumbass. what makes you think aliens come from other planets? just because they said so?
>>339116178
Well, it absolutely is, but that's beside the point--by inventing "free will" and giving it to humans, god invented evil. Why? Why not invent a concept of free will that renders us incapable of evil? You may say "that would not truly be free will", but in this scenario "free will" was defined and created by god, so the concept to us is simply as god intended it to be. Why not make us physiologically incapable of evil, but allow us to retain "free will"? Why not create a universe where all living things benefit from symbiosis? Why create a universe that is mostly empty space? Why create life that needs to evolve? Why start life at a basic level, instead of poofing it all into existence as we know it now?
>>339115750
It's basically just a nightmare in movie form
>>339116459
>by inventing "free will" and giving it to humans, god invented evil
So ancient Chinese alchemists who discovered gunpowder she be blamed for every school shooting?
>>339116896
chinese alchemists didn't have the luxury of being all-knowing dieties
>>339116171
this, its one of those flawed movie that are just too interesting to pass-up.
>>339116896
Chinese alchemists weren't all knowing, they couldn't know what their creation would be used for. God was.
Chinese alchemists weren't all powerful, they couldn't create gunpowder that couldn't be used in a school shooting. God was.
Chinese alchemists weren't all beneficent. They had no reason to care about school shootings a thousand years hence. God was.
>>339112962
>god gives his "greatest creation" free will, which basically amounts to the ability to do things that piss him off
>literally being so bored you start trolling yourself
get a hobby or something, god
>>339116896
If the Chinese had the omniscience to forsee literally everything gunpowder would be used for if they created it beforehand, then yes, absolutely. This is "God" we're talking about, its myth is having created everything "just so" with absolute knowledge and power. Nice false equivalence between the Chinese and a god figure, though.
>>339115750
As far as horror movies go, it is fairly average, but the scenes of hell are nightmarishly gory.
>>339115172
I'm a euphoric fedora tipper and you're a lying faggot
To me it's like another mythology
In the same way I like reading made up Nordic and Sumerian mythologies I like reading shit people have come up with from the Christian religion
A guy killing demons sounds badass in the same way I'd think a human going berserk on frost giants would be badass.
>>339112513
No, you're wrong. Shut up.
>>339117341
the behind the scenes shit showing all the bits they had to cut or only flash through in the actual movie are insane
>>339115675
That's the most reasonable way to put it. Technically speaking, any being not native from Earth is, by definition, an extraterrestrial. God can be a divine magical being, sure. But is still technically an alien
>>339118970
No, it's stupid because we all know this.
But when people think of aliens, magical deities don't usually come to mind. Flesh and blood beings like us who happened to evolve like us, but on another planet is what comes to mind.
You cannot reconcile magic and deities with reality. They don't exist anywhere but fiction.
It's like those fucks who claim magic is just science we haven't discovered, when in reality magic is a fake thing that is by definition, non-scientific. What people mean when they say this is that magic doesn't really exist, but there are processes by which beings can do things that seem like magic.
So when you say "hurr, but technically demons and angels are aliens", you're really saying, demons and angels as described don't really exist, but there are natural beings like us who seem like they're what we would call a demon or angel.
Stop trying to combine magic and science as if they're compatible ideologies. One must either be abolished or redefined in order for one to reconcile them.
>>339115661
Again, old testament. Sodom and Gomorrah, Tower of Babel, the flood, etc.
>>339112513
Nop OP, this shit is Hell.
>>339112734
>they tried this in the shitty doom movie and no one liked it
no they didn't, they were retconned into being a genetic abomination, senpai (family)
>>339113678
You now realize that most of the Bible is just metaphors.
