how does /v/ justify piracy?
average person does not give a fuck
Video game companies are too big and too corporate nowadays.
I only buy things with heart.
Also a cheapskate.
it's fun to play games, and I can get them for free if i pirate
Try before you buy innit
>>339091649
The same reason I imagine pretty much every pirate does.
We're poor.
I don't need to give justification, neither I want it
No demos, no refunds, untrustworthy reviews, so if you buy anything that's shit you get hosed so the logical step is to do what it takes to not get hosed
I don't, I'm just a cheap piece of shit who sometimes just wants free games
I dont.
I loathe pirates. They're nothing but thieves.
There is simply nothing you can do to stop them.
>>339091649
It's only entertainment. Idgaf
who care..
>>339091649
People who pirate don't need a reason. They do it cause they can.
>Hardly any demos coming out these days for new games
>Reviewers proving more and more these days that they're shitty at games, try to justify it, and can't be trusted on their opinions
There you go
Games cost more in Australia for no reason.
I don't. I'll pirate what I please and I don't justify it because I don't need to.
Why pay when you can steal and get away with it?
Apathy
>>339091649
like anyone gives a fuck about bean counters
it doesn't hurt anybody.
>>339091649
>how does /v/ justify piracy?
Justify?
Pirate or pirate not. There is no "justify".
>>339092154
>>339092330
This and because I'm not paying $110 for new releases.
>>339092330
this, nowadays game critics are more like journalists than gamers,
>>339091649
If they didn't want it copied without their permission, they shouldn't have put it in an environment that 1) copies things exceedingly well
and 2) put it on a medium that allows access from anywhere on the planet.
>>339091649
I used to actually steal a lot when I was a kid. Got caught a few times but ran away before cops could do anything. I stopped stealing where I could get caught.
Piracy isn't stealing, but it's similar. Let me know when i'm actually at risk of getting in trouble and I'll find another way to get my content for free.
>buy movie
>its legally mine
>buy video game
>i only have a licence to play it
they deserve it
I only pirate games that I can't legally buy on that platform/for that version anyways, so they didn't lose a sale anyways.
i pirate only early access game
if they want my money, get your shit togheter and do your work you lazy faggots
>do I want it
>y/n
>if y
>is there something that would force me to buy the game (playing for MP etc)
>y/n
>if n, pirate
>if y, is there and business practice that I don't want to support (pre-order bonuses, always online SP, platform locked content and so on?
>if n, buy
>if y, skip and shitpost about
>>339091649
>The overworked game dev is still making his small wage, regardless of the outcome of the game's sales
You're mainly only hurting the rich faggots at the top which can never have enough money.
Fuck those people, they're the ones ruining gaming.
>>339092067
The gnome speaks the truth
I don't. I don't care if people think it's right or not. I don't feel like paying, and if I have an easy way of getting around that, I'll take it.
I don't.
I just do it because I ain't got no cash.
Fuck you Amerifat.
>>339091649
The same way their justify their shit purchases.
Damage control.
>>339092964
> This is what piratecucks actually believe
>>339091649
absence of demos.
>>339091649
>>339092067
Came here to post this image.
I've always been a cheapskate.
There's zero reprocussions, so why waste money?
If I see it on a steam sale for a few quid then I'll probably buy it for convenience.
>>339091649
If my computer is shit, i will not pay for a subpar experience.
no demos and constant dlc, season pass and microtransactions bullshit.
Hell, in some cases you need to pay to be a beta tester.
Also i bet pic related happens with games too.
I pay only for indies
and only if the are good.
>>339093293
it's objectively true, though.
Do you think piracy has any impact on the take home pay of the people who actually work on games? The only people hurt are the jews who collect all the profit
>>339092774
>buy movie
>its legally mine
You still can't broadcast/project it, so it's hardly "yours".
>>339091649
>that image
Has anybody here ever got arrested for downloading video games from internet illegaly?
>>339092774
>buy movie
>its legally mine
Anon...
>>339091649
I don't. I do it because i can - fuck you
Justifying piracy is dumb.
Like, if you wanna pirate, pirate. No need to fucking justify yourself.
i have money, and i have never played a senran kagura game and have not had the means to. i plan on downloading the new steam release when it comes out so I can try it because i heard it was good. i plan on playing it for a while and then buying it if i like it, and uninstalling it if i don't. i'm not sure if it's for me so i would like to see how it is. is this a bad idea?
>>339093293
>Pirates are cucks
>For not giving their money away if they can keep it
???
>>339093597
Well there is, because in many cases there are people pirating who would otherwise buy the games if industry practices weren't so bad.
>>339093460
No, because those Jews will cut people/costs so that they can make their money.
The ones at the top ALWAYS make their money. Shit rolls downhill, not up, and the consumer is at the top of the retail pyramid.
Your concept of business is just above high school part-timer at McDonalds. Are you from /biz/?
It's just a game bro, you need to chill
>>339091649
I don't. If i don't feel like buying a game, i won't.
>that guy that thinks pirating is a moral crusade against big companies and acts like he's sticking it to the man
>>339091649
I don't.
I just don't give a fuck.
I pirate all I can pirate. Deal with it.
>have to buy Battlefield cause can't pirate the online
>pirate TW3
:^)
>>339093510
No, at most right now all they can do is tell your internet service provider to threaten you.
>"Stop downloading Game of Thrones or we'll shut off your internet"
Kek, I'll switch providers if you bother me again niggers.
I don't try to justify piracy. If I want to play a game and don't want to pay for it, I'll pirate it.
That is all.
>>339091649
guess what retard we have tons of companies ripping us off in gaming every day. we support those who work with us and pirate everything from shits like ea and bethesda
>>339093435
>songwriters and artists are separate
what? do performers nowadays not write their own songs?
I don't need a reason.
I'm not like one of those faggots who use the "w-well... it doesn't affect the sales of the game or affects the company's revenue if I wasn't going to buy it anyway! T-the money only affect retail!"
I know what I do is wrong under DRM regulations, I'm broke and I still want to be apart of gaming discussions, so I pirate games. And even if I have money, which many times I come across, I still pirate. There is no worse feeling than falling for the hype, purchasing a game, and then realizing its a piece of shit and using mind games to justify your purchase.
>>339094009
Very few top artists do
>>339094009
> Nowadays
This has been like this since before Frank Sinatra. Seriously.. where have you been?
>>339091649
Because I'm sick of paying big money for broken ports and bad games especially when there's no demo I can use to judge the product. Essentially, I'll pirate it so I can give it a go. I've bought many games I've otherwise had no interest in simply because I've pirated it to give it a go and found that it was actually really good.
>>339091649
I don't. There isn't a justification. I'd steal and rob shit in real life too if the opportunity and repercussion cost were as low as it is with piracy. You'd be fucking dumb as a box of rocks not to.
>>339094214
Not sure what bands you listen to but everyone I've ever listened to writes their own songs.
I use it to play older games for the PS1 & N64 that you can't find in store or distribution on the new consoles.
>>339094286
So you don't listen to pop? The biggest money-maker in the music industry and the scale by which the metric is made?
That's not surprising, but most artists do not write their own material.
Also, I guarantee every single of of the bands you listen to have a marakable percentage of their songs not written by anyone in the band, covers not included. That's just how the industry works.
I pirate everything else. Why should video games get an exception?
>>339091649
Do I really need to justify it? I don't care. It's just copyright infringement, who gives a fuck. Life is too expensive and short to justify spending $60 on every new digital toy that comes out. All these "DOWN WITH BIG CORPORATIONS!" faggots are annoying, I literally only pirate games because it's easy and free. The developers get paid to create the game whether it sells well or not, do people actually think they make the game for free and then get paid per copy sold?
>>339094009
Depends on the music. This has been a normal thing in pop music for decades. Did you know Michael Jackson didn't write thriller? He had a team of songwriters for that. Conversely, dedicated songwriters are unheard of in, say, Heavy Metal where the music is almost always written by the members of the band.
>>339094514
No I don't really listen to pop. The only example I know of a song not being written by its performer is that "These Boots Are Made For Walking" song by Sinatra's daughter or whatever.
Also I very highly doubt that Black Sabbath, Budgie, CCR, David Bowie, Deep Purple, Diamond Head, Dio, Dire Straits, Eagles, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin, Megadeth, Metallica, Mike Oldfield, Motorhead, Mott the Hoople, Pink Floyd, Queen, Rainbow, Roger Waters, Simon and Garfunkel and The Who didn't write their own songs.
>>339091649
It's free real estatebaby
>>339094734
>all that extremely mainstream dadrock shit
Yeah, I'm sure no one EVER wrote their songs for them.
>would you copy a expensive car with the push of a button AND knowing theres no consequence?
>>339091649
>justify piracy
I don't
I just dew it
>>339092964
>Fuck those people, they're the ones ruining gaming
they're the ones funding the game you're pirating dumbass
>>339094864
Yes.
>>339094836
Kill yourself, subhuman nigger.
>>339094734
Re-read my comment. I outright said that heavy metal bands almost always write their own songs. You've effectively just repeated what I've said.
Its free
WIth that said however my stream library is half decent, sure its full of games I bought on sale, but still.
I DO have money for games, but enough for games and drinks with my friends, for instance.
With Denuvo getting more prominent and my university ending next month, Ill move away from piracy. But for now, Im not going to give up fun because of money.
>>339095021
White as a tissue.
>>339093874
This. Only games I buy are those who can't access the online in the pirated copy.
My ISP doesn't care either so it's all good.
Hilary Clinton steals from taxpayers by taking bribes and nothing happens to her, therefore I will continue to pirate unless someone honest like Trump wins the presidency.
>>339091649
It is free
There are no repercussions
For my 1 pirate, there are 17 retards who will buy it, and so I have no guilt
No DRM
If it sucks I've lost nothing
If it rules I can buy it
If it doesn't run I don't care
How can you justify purchasing without playing?
>>339095129
A tissue with shit and piss on it, subhuman nigger.
how do you justify not pirating?
>>339094836
And you'd be right.
>Black Sabbath
the bassist, Geezer Butler, wrote most lyrics while Tony Iommi, the guitar player, handled the music
>Budgie
the bassist and vocalist wrote the songs
>CCR
Fogerty wrote them
>David Bowie
wrote them all himself
>Deep Purple
somewhat of a group effort
>Diamond Head
Brian Tatler, guitar player, wrote most of it while singer gave lyrics
>Dio
nigga wrote all the songs for the bands he was in
>Dire Straits
Mark Knopfler wrote them all
>Eagles
never really looked it up, but I'm pretty sure it's a split between the drummer/guitar player
>Iron Maiden
Steve Harris, bass player, and the singer
>Judas Priest
Rob Halford with guitar players
>Led Zeppelin
Page, guitar, and Robert Plant, singer
>Megadeth
Mustaine
>Metallica
James Hetfield
>Mike Oldfield
himself
>Motorhead
Lemmy
>Mott the Hoople
singer
>Pink Floyd
Sydd, Roger Waters and David Gilmour
>Queen
Freddie/Brian
>Rainbow
Dio/Ritchie Blackmore
>Roger Waters
himself
>Simon and Garfunkel
themselves
>The Who
Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey.
>>339095256
My skin is cleaner than your mom's white panties.
>>339091649
>can't pirate Doom
>every thread I post in everyone calls me an idiot even though I watched most of it on Youtube
This is horseshit.
>>339095071
but I didn't reply to your comment anon
I read it but I wasn't contesting it
>>339095404
>shoot enemy
>enemy goes into STUN
>2 second melee animation
Repeat ad infinitum
>>339091649
>>339091649
It's not something that needs to be justified to begin with.
Either you pirate things, or you don't.
End.
I'm not interested in being dragged down by your moral baggage
>>339091649
I don't. I acknowledge that it's stealing and don't do any mental gymnastics to justify my doing of it.
>>339095397
It's certainly not whiter than your fathers nigger filled rectum though.
>>339092469
>>339092469
Master Yoda speaks true.
Does emulation count as piracy?
>>339095582
I'll add that to the text doc.
I'd like to buy a house that was put up for sale
>Okay it costs this much
Well, I'd like to see the house
>Here is a picture of the house
No, I'd like to be taken to the house, and the house to be shown to me.
>what
You know what, nevermind
How do you justify paying large amounts of money on something that can easily be bad?
Even Steam refunds is not an excuse. If you refund too many times, they will warn you that Steam refunds is explicitly NOT a "trial" service. It is there for games that won't run for you, not for games that you don't like.
>>339091649
No gods, no masters, no bedtimes. I do what I want, I'll pirate anything I feel like.
Like, sometimes I just download shit that I know I'll never use just cause. Nothing personnel but I can't be bothered to pay for shit if they can't be bothered to try anymore.
>>339091649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI
>>339095849
does watching a movie at your friends house with them, without you paying full price for it, count as stealing?
>>339095854
WHAT? YOU WANT TO GO INSIDE HOUSE AND NOT PAY? THIEF!!!!!!!!
Poor localisation, exorbitant costs, terrible practises involving releasing half-assed games then expecting people to pay from half up to the full retail cost again for the stuff that should have been added.
>>339091649
Besides moral faggotry what's your excuse for buying games.
My PC is a piece of garbage so I pirate modern games sometimes to see if they'll even run above 10fps
I'm not getting a new computer any time soon so it'd be retarded to buy games I can't even play on my rig
A. I'm too poor to afford vidya (and yes, I have a job - working 46 hours this week)
B. Don't want to waste my money on games I don't know the quality of
C. What games I do buy are used physical cartridges because I'm a retrofag
D. Free things are nice
E. Rips of games tend to be missing things, like audio files, so you rarely get the full experience anyways
F. Can't steal what you can make infinite copies of. Since it's digital, it doesn't count as counterfeit, either, as there's no market to flood with fakes
G. Pirates > Ninjas
H. Pirates > Samurai
I. Pirates > Paladins
J. Pirates > Vikings
K. Pirates > Navy
L. My pirate ship > Your pirate ship
M. Dat booty tho
N. Ur mum
O. Do what you want
P. Pirates be free
Q. You are a pirate
R. Cabin boys
S. Wenches, when there be no cabin boys
T. Plunder dat booty
U. Tim Curry was a pirate
V. So was Geoffrey Rush
W. We're not technically pirates, just privateers
X. Marks the spot
Y. Not?
Z. End
Waiting for someone to post that bike shop piracy drawing.
not pirating games.
Why wouldn't I?
It's piss easy nowadays, practically easier than buying.
I don't have a good justification on a moral ground. I merely have the reasoning that I don't have money to buy as many games as I want to play.
>>339097350
here lad
>>339091649
I don't. I pirate because I want to. Deal with it
>>339093460
Actually I read a study a couple years ago that was saying that piracy actually increased sales of said item
>>339098000
you don't want to end up in prison do you?
>>339091649
What is there to justify? I just don't want to pay a single cent for video games
>>339091649
My life, my business
>>339101208
>>339101329
enjoy prison scumbags
>>339101180
Never have, never will. Savvy?
I am a poorfag uni student, i survive with spaghetti and water, so i can't spare shekels for games sadly.
>>339091649
DLCs and sequels
>>339093706
Except employees make money. They create the goods and services necessary for the company to bring in revenue. There is a downside to laying them off. As long as they have enough cash flow they will keep them. Why do you think companies only lay off people when times are hard?
It's my fetish
>/a/ depends on fansubbers
>/mu/ regularly shares music
>/tv/ probably doesn't care
Why is /v/ the only board buttblasted about piracy?
>>339091649
It's fuckin free
I ain't gotta explain shit
>>339092067
My negro.
>>339091649
Complete apathy towards the industry, and I want free shit.
Don't really care that a few neckbeards on the internet will cry about it.
>>339091649
It's piracy, I don't have to justify shit.
They didn't release the game in my region Therefore, they don't want my money.
>>339102804
A little of this, a little of just can't get the game anymore without succumbing to the scalper menace.I still feel bad that when I FINALLY got an emulator for it up, Okage hit the PS4 store.
Pirating a game like Mighty No 9 is fine.
It was made with stolen money and lies anyway.
>>339091649
>it's a anti-piracy pro-denuvo thread where all the denuvo shills have almost 100% certainly pirated music, movies, TV shows, ROMs/emulators or at the very least used an online music streaming service that pays the artist .0000001 cent per play
it's true what they say, the average IQ really is 80
>>339091649
>justify piracy?
I'm broke and I can either spend $100 CDN or play the game for free.
I genuinely buy games I really liked later on anyway, but ultimately I don't need to justify it, its just a game.
Its like saying you need to justify playing Boardgames for free on Tabletop Simulator instead of buying and playing the real one.
When I was a kid I pirated games because I literally had no income and liked games, and as an adult I pirate games because I have bills to pay and games are expensive as fuck. When I have the option to just play them for free instead, I'll take it. I'm not going to just stop enjoying games just because they keep increasing the prices
>ITT: neets try to justify opposing video game developers and sticking it to the man despite the fact that these people provide them with the only thing that can be considered a hobby in their otherwise empty lives and is the only thing keeping them from becoming an hero
>>339102804
This is the most legitimate answer tbqh
I've got a pretty good excuse, actually. Piracy is acceptable because publishers insist on releasing games at western prices in my country, where the average income is 4-5x lower than in the west.Of course I would still pirate even if prices were lower because games these days are shit and I'm not gonna pay for 15 minutes of fun. I've only ever bought old games.
>>339103003
Consider suicide.
I assume many others recommended suicide as well, surely we can't all be wrong.
Do it.
Who fucking cares
People can do whatever they want, but as long as they don't throw a temper tantrum when developers have the audacity to protect their product and ensure sales
>>339103003
I did all of those things, and I would not give a fuck if developers tried to stop all of those except for ROMs.
Take your strawman and go
>>339091649
by being a poorfag.
search your wallet, you know it's true.
>>339091649
1) Most games are shit and don't even meet minimum standards of anyone with taste anymore and developers don't deserve money. If the games themselves aren't shit, they often aren't polished and have horrible performance these days. See From Software or Ubisoft.
2) There usually isn't a demo. If a game is really good and deserves the money, you can still buy it afterwards.
3) Police doesn't care about pirated games, they mostly care about (new) movies.
4) 95% the people that pirate games wouldn't have bought them otherwise. They just take it because it's free.
/thread
>>339103003
>stupid post
>picture is just some random girl they pulled off of Google
what are the chances XDD
Imagine you are at McDonalds, and everybody is buying food and the place is so damned busy that you can sneak in and grab your food for FREE because nobody will notice
That's piracy
Why pay for food when you can get it for free
Yes it would be bad if everybody was that one guy taking the food for free but the point is not everybody does it so it's OK to be that one guy because nobody cares and it doesn't matter
>>339103074
The "sticking it to the man" part is secondary and only plays a role when it comes to games that I will actually buy, the bottom line is that it's free and I don't give a fuck.
>>339103375
>4) 95% the people that pirate games wouldn't have bought them otherwise. They just take it because it's free.
Which is also proven by Denuvo games which sell like shit despite not being pirateable.
>>339103375
>Most games are shit and don't even meet minimum standards of anyone with taste anymore and developers don't deserve money.
>I'm an entitled baby who wants free games!
>There usually isn't a demo.
This is true
>Police doesn't care about pirated games
This as well. You can get away with downloading like 7 AAA games in a day and nothing will happen
>95% the people that pirate games wouldn't have bought them otherwise
Thats a lie. There are multiple statistics showing otherwise
>>339103608
>Thats a lie. There are multiple statistics showing otherwise
Mind linking to those?
>>339091649
I don't
>>339103608
>>I'm an entitled baby who wants free games!
Well, that's the topic. Doesn't change the fact most games are shit and unpolished or publishers even literally lying to their customers. This One Piece muosu, for example. It has the graphics of the Vita version but gets marketed on Steam with pictures of the PS4 version. Most famous example is probably Dark Souls 1, though.
It's literal robbery.
>>339103296
>and ensure sales
Personally, I'm a lot less likely to buy a game if I don't have the chance to play it first to see if I actually like it.
With how shady marketing these days, and how many publishers just try to hype up bad games and make a tonne of sales in the first week, I'm not going to risk $100 on a game that might be fun.
>>339103934
>robbery
Ah yes, because I'm threatening the developer with a gun while pirating his video game
Most of the time I just pirate cause I don't have any money so theres no other way to get the games
But sometimes I actually do it because there is no demo available and I want to see if my toaster can run the game. I did this with SFV and found out that no, my toaster can definitely not run SFV.
>>339091649
Because people don't want to accidentally support shit games. People love their hobby, they don't want to ruin it.
If a game is good you can still buy it later when it's on sale or something. Everything is better than ever paying 60 bucks for a piece of shit that kills our hobby.
Today you can't even trust reviews anymore, so.
>>339091649
I can't justify it. I'm a broke motherfucker who can't afford games but I buy the ones I know I enjoyed.
When I was working, I bought Darksiders off of Steam. The game constantly froze or there was a black screen (this was before refunds were a thing). I got a hold of support from the devs, to see if I could get a fix or something, they threw some suggestions, none worked, then they just stopped responding. Same with THQ. So, I then contacted Steam's support and asked if I could get a refund because of the problems, and told them that I would just be happy with it being in my Steam wallet since I was just going to spend the money on another game, anyway. They did, and I bought something else. Can't remember what it was off the top of my head.
Anyway, I pirated Darksiders and goofed around a bit with the game, and oddly, had the same issues. After fucking around with it, I started unplugging stuff. And wouldn't you know it, my fucking keyboard was the problem. My fucking keyboard was preventing me from getting out of the fucking black screen shit at startup.
When another sale rolled around, and had a different computer built at the time, I bought it again later now that I knew what the problem was and didn't have any problems after that.
But here I am, broke as fuck again, jobless, but haven't pirated since.
>>339104271
>Playstation Universe
>sheer brilliance
Are they legit retarded?
>>339091649
Poorfags doesnt need to justify themselves. They cant even afford good computer
>implying I need to justify it
>>339104425
They are legit an advertisement platform.
>>339103375
>>339103540
>>339104271
All of this.
I don't pirate and i have no issues with people who pirate and keep to themselves.
The pirates I can't stand are the arrogant fuckers who have developed a false sense of superiority and like to tell everyone that they're morons for spending their money how they like.
>>339093293
>paying money to get fucked in the ass
"at-at least I'm n-not a cuck! they WISH they could get fucked in the anus like me!"
>>339091649
because videogames should be donateware
like it? donate to devs so they don't starve to death
don't like it? don't donate to devs so their shit games go away
>>339102303
Because it's easy to get replies by demonizing it.
Also, most of /v/ is consolefags who are too retarded to pirate things.
The risk vs reward analysis for pirating makes buying games that you can pirate a literal retard position
Society is constructed by profiteering and capitalism where the rich people do / are associated with a lot of indirect benefits so they keep fat wads of cash, or knowledge that isn't easily shared.
You take every advantage you can get, even in vidya.
>>339091649
i don't believe in copyright laws
>>339091649
i don't unless its a gog game
i dont trust installer.exe
>>339091649
Used game sales have always and will always hurt publishers and developers more than pirating. Particularly when it's one of those single player campaign games that you can rent and beat in a weekend. Good beyy.
