Are dark souls players retarded? This was the easiest fucking boss while the twin teleporting niggers, abyss watchers, and the cursed tree were the hardest. The dancer of boreal was easy as fuck too.
I'm so cool everyone look at me!
>Are Dark Souls players retarded
>I say while calling the bosses no one has trouble on as "the hardest"
>abyss watchers and the tree hard
Wat
But yes, dark souls 3 was seriously lacking in boss challenge. I think what they did was, since they shat on magic/miracles, they had to balance the game based off those weaker spells so the bosses felt too easy with melee weapons. Such a shame, TOH was fucking perfect. Holding out for the dlc
>>339075274
Either over levelled or farmed if you think abyss watchers was easy. And please explain to me how random teleporting nigger is easy.
>>339074905
(You)
>>339074905
(You)
>>339075353
Extremely telegraphed attacks making them easy to dodge, like every boss in das3
>>339075353
>A boss that you can parry and BS
>hard
>teleporting boss
Nigga, the timing to roll after a teleportation is always the same, doesn't matter where he teleports, iframes dont care about the direction of the attack.
>>339075353
What boss are you talking about? The princes? The teleports are far from "random" it always takes the same amount of time, and once you realize where he is you can easily sight roll the sword swing.
>>339075507
>have 3 faggots on you
>whoaia so ez just dodge
Meanwhile the guy in the op PIC literally telegraphs every move and I just roll out the way of every single move because he's so slow.
>>339075353
abyss watchers was easy because his attacks were easy to dodge and the whole fight was just backstab over and over
teleporting nigger is easy because it RESETS HIS ATTACK when he teleports, if you have ANY awareness you can dodge everything he does
and le tree man was disappointingly stupid and easy
honestly after playing through bloodborne a few times ds3 in its entirety was a cakewalk
>>339075604
>>339075738
They are random as fuck. Sometimes he will teleport mid combo sometimes he won't. When he does it mid combo and teleports right behind you it doesn't reset
>>339074905
You
>>339074905
>Curse-Rotted Greatwood
>hard
Opinion invalidated.
>>339075628
Nigga you can literally just dodge spam the entire first phase of the abyss watchers fight and let that friendly abyss watcher fight for you, if he dies, he'll respawn soon after. There is no excuse to die on the first phase at all.
>Abyss watchers
>Hard
>The boss that's got bloodborne poise, is backstabable, and deals damage to himself on the first phase
>>339075353
abyss watchers have even less poise than you do, they're easily knocked into stun, in addition they can be parried and backstabbed.
twin princes teleporting is a very regular thing, and will go behind you. when lorian teleports, just turn around and dodge.
DARK SOULS DOESN'T HAVE HARD BOSSES
REPLY TO ME IF YOU AGREE
>>339076217
The triple demon one in demons souls was hard as fuck
>THIS boss wasn't hard! The OTHER boss was harder!
>THAT boss was hard? It was weaker than THIS boss!
Are you all being fucking serious right now? I thought it was a shitty meme at first, but now I think you people actually believe that everyone plays the same build and use the same weapons.
>>339076448
It's every Dark Souls thread.
>>339076448
all bosses are easy once you know the method to kill them.
finding them difficult or not your first time fighting them means literally nothing.
>>339075628
Uh you know they fight each other right
>>339074905
Fighting nameless king solo with no shield a ultra greatsword and getting two shot because i have 20 vig.
Thats somehow fucking easier than wacking the giant trees cancer spot for 5 minutes.
>>339075738
Agreed
Please let the dlc be the old hunters quality
>>339076569
only one of them fights the other two, actually. and both adds have less HP than the dark wraiths outside.
is it just me or is dark souls 3 too easy? Maybe its because im a veteran of this series by now, but bloodborne was relatively new and still gave me a run for my money on some bosses. Cleric beast surprised me with his fast and versatile moves, ludwig was a motherfucker, Gascgoinge was easily the heardest final boss in the series, orphan of kos was a good threat.
so far I've killed almost every dark souls 3 boss on 4 tries or less. Granted the nameless king gave me the most trouble, though I have a feeling it was because of the fact it was more endurance than anything (fighting 2 bosses practically)
>>339076696
The main boss has such little health it doesn't matter
>>339076448
I'm glad somebody understands, holy shit I'm so tired of souls players waving their dicks around going "oh you found THAT boss hard? Wow git gud, THIS boss is truly the pinnacle of difficulty."
>>339076647
I did the same. No shield just 2 handed greatsword. 22 vig. How are you getting hit by him he's so fucking slow. Meanwhile the the tree has a billion retards on you that infinitely respawn
>>339075353
>random teleporting
>He previously emits an aura like a fucking glowing lighthouse.
>Easiest boss to dodge.
We know you are trolling, silly anon.
>cursed tree
>hardest
hahahaha git gud
>just parry and backstab him bro took me two tries
>always moves or attacks before I can set up backstab
>does no parryable attacks in second phase
>beat him by roll and 1 spam like every other boss
fucking overleveled shitters my crits only did like 200 damage
I feel like the dark souls 3 bosses were designed to punish panic rollers specifically so if you don't do that it ends up being easy
>>339076739
The normal enemies and minibosses can be pretty hard, but I agree most bosses are too easy. Bloodborne was actually pretty hard for me up until Rom and most of the depth >3 chalice dungeons.
>>339076937
I've always used it more of to tell a story of how the fight went.
for instance, I'd heared from a lot of people that dancer was a bitch to beat, but when I fought her, I took things real slow. I found her to be a boss fight that one should be patient in dealing with. Apparently other people agreed.
IO could see Dragonslayer Armor being annoying, but at that time I used the Irithyll Rapier, and that made short work of him.
>>339076947
>Meanwhile the the tree has a billion retards on you that infinitely respawn
They don't spawn in the second phase and even then the tree usually kills them for you.
>>339077193
What the fuck weapon were you using? Do you even upgrade your weapon?
>>339077235
>mfw I found the dual wielding sickle skeletons harder than the bosses in das3
Fuck the jailers too
The giant was one of the hardest bosses it took me 40 minutes to beat him and I didn't even die
>>339076448
Where's the picture of a ton of guys in a line going "You think that was hard? Let me tell you about THIS guy!"
>>339076947
The tree has the fucking easiest enemies in the game spawn a every few seconds that dont even fucking spawn in the second phase which is super fucking easy to get too.
But litterally two bossfights on top of eachother with the first being a test of endirance and the second having super long wind up and fake outs while also being super agressive and not letting you heal while doing more damage than you can heal.
And your telling me fucking tree cancer is harder.
>>339077464
>he didn't find the Storm Ruler
>>339077540
>getting baited
>>339076950
for you maybe, he did that like once and i beat him around 10 times.
>>339077527
NK is as much "two boss fights" as Abyss Watcher and Soul of Cinder are.
>>339077580
My friend legitametly didnt find storm ruler he fought him super low level.
Took him an hour and a half no fucking joke.
>>339077527
Lol? Endurance? Hit the fucking dragon at its head and not its feet next time. Stay near its head and it won't even fly. Took 5 minutes. And super long wind up and fake outs? Yeah its called being slow as fuck and easy as fuck to dodge. Or do you just spam the roll button? Never even got hit once in the second phase.
I've noticed fights aren't always the same due to typically randomized chances of certain attacks, unless there is a specific trigger like the whole thing of triggering Gwyn in DaS by taking a sippy.
>People arguing with OP about Watchers and Princes
>Nobody mentioning that he actually thinks the Greatwood is one of the hardest bosses in the game.
>>339077540
>>339077580
Not bait. Just looked it up. Why the fuck would anyone even think to go there.
>>339075353
I let the abyss watchers kill each other in the first phase, and just strafed left for second phase
>>339077717
It still tests your endurance as you grind away at that dragon every time you die to unlock the real boss.
>>339077881
the glowy item.
the literal fuck ton of messages in front of the boss door all saying
>try throne
and, charging...
>>339077807
Everyone is mentioning this
And its obvious op is baiting anyway
>>339077762
Kek, how can anyone take a few hits on him and think "yeah this is what I have to do"
I hit the nigga like 3 times and said fuck it, looked around and found the storm ruler and knew what to do immedietly (admittedly, I played DeS so I knew)
Same goes for the dragon
>>339077996
>>339078019
There were no hints. The dragon had hints.
>>339074905
Did anyone else here just cheat engine through the whole game. I got all the achievements in all the other ones without cheating but for some reason I couldn't be arsed this time.
>>339077807
I did.
>>339077881
>note on the ground sounds kinda cryptic
>notice that you do barely any damage
>see something in the back of the room
ezpzI actually found out about that by accident beforehand but it's not hard to figure out.
>>339077963
>grind away at the dragon
what grind? it has pitiful HP, less than 5,000, attack it's head with a lightning weapon and then stroll on to Nameless King.
Hey guys, opinions right? man oh man
>>339077963
Hit the head and neck you fucking retard.
>>339078070
>There were no hints
the fact that you dealt 50 damage to him, and hit HP bar didn't move wasn't a hint that "hmm maybe this is not how I win this fight..."
>>339078194
I thought it was because he's a giant
>>339077963
>hit it's head a bunch
>stun
>critical hit
Not hard bruh.
>>339078105
Attack its head with a lightning weapon?
Switching sets to adapt to bosses?
What r u casul.
Seriously tho i challanged myself to wear the same gear throughout the entire game and never used a shield or anything but greatsword.
Pontyiff sulyvahn still rapes my dreams.
what character in the Souls series best embodies this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSH--SJKVQQ
LMAO PPL ACTUALLY PLAYED OTHER THAN DEPRIVED FISTS ONLY AND USED ESTUS AT ALL LMAAAAOOOO GIT GUUUUUDDDDDXD
>>339078258
then you are retarded
>>339074905
>Twin Princes
>Cursed Tree
>hard
are YOU retarded?
So what, can you beat Christopher Robin in pooh baseball?
>>339078629
Can anyone?
>>339075628
One will fight the boss for you, and you can 1 on 1 the one that comes after you if you back away from the main boss. He'll stand back and just watch until it dies.
I already got the Wolf ring, should I just move on to higher levels now?
>>339078591
>twin princes
>not hard
do you feel like you're fitting in yet?
>>339078434
Soul of Cinder
>>339078715
All of their attacks are incredibly easy to dodge. The fact you thing Cursed Greatwood is hard kinda proves you're a shitter.
>>339078434
Chosen Undead becoming the Dark Lord.
>>339078629
>>339077881
>>339078070
>no hints
>giant ass glowing item near the thrown
>developer hint next to it
>unique weapon
>no stay requirements
>description says effective on giants
I'm probably getting baited but whatever
>>339075872
and it doesnt even fucking madder since the hurtbox on his attacks is so god damn tiny just roll in any direction and i frame through it
>>339076678
if ds3 dlc tops ludwig ill eat my boot
>>339074905
Just because you killed it at first try doesn't mean it's a shitty boss.
I killed Lorian and Lothric at first try and yet I still consider it as a good boss.
>>339078842
>implying that the CU became the dark lord
>>339079047
Same, I really don't know how they'll top ludwig
Maybe a battle with the pygmy before he turns to manus and the fight goes haywire?
>>339079116
Well there's no canon ending since there are no canon sequels, anon.
Pontiff Sulyvahn is the hardest boss, Aldrich is the easiest.
>>339079579
Unless you are running INT in which case prepare to get fucked.
I die a lot for every boss. I hate the "I never ever die git gud" crowd that surrounds these games so much.
>>339079047
I thought that as bosses, Nameless King, twin princes, and Sulyvahn were better than Ludwig.
Cursed tree is artificial difficulty if you just lock on.
Its a very cool and fun fight if you just aim up down and try to just stab the balls.
>>339079797
Well you're dumb.
>>339074905
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INCOMING
Different players have different play styles and thus have difficulty with different bosses
WAOW
>>339079797
People only like Ludwig for the little transition cutscene. As far as a fight goes, he's pretty meh. Maria and Orphan were better.
>>339079797
I respect that, but I think those bosses are dragged down by not being as challenging as ludwig.
Especially pontiff who gets easier with his clone since his attacks become more telegraphed
>>339075353
>implying people had to overlevel to beat abyss watchers because you couldn't
It took me a few tries but after messing around with the fight I realized how easy it is. You shouldn't be trading hits for one but I can see how one may think being over leveled is a requirement if they just chug estus and trade hits for bosses. Everything is telegraphed and avoidable. You even get helpers in phase 1 to be a distraction while you can backstab. Phase 2 can be easily be passed by doing a sprinting R1 into the boss while he isn't swinging like a madman. It'll stagger him giving you at leat 2 more swings and time to jump back, rinse and repeat.
>I've played through demons souls, dark souls 1, dark souls 2 and Bloodborne several times
>why are these bosses not difficult
What amuses me most is that people genuinely seem to think that the first three games are even comparable to BB or DS3 in terms of the aggressive bosses with much larger movesets.
I mean honestly, look at Manus, widely considered one of dark souls 1's hardest bosses, he winds up every attack for a good 3 or so seconds other than the shotgun dark magic.
>>339077789
>Sip against Gwyn in Dark Souls 1
>He runs and do a grab or leaps
>The dancer of boreal was easy as fuck too.
guess you're gay if your erection wasn't distracting you
>>339079947
His fight is fucking incredible. The amount of moves he has is staggering and each one will fuck you up. One of the truly difficult bosses in the series, his transition and the music are only accessory upsides
>>339074905
>twin teleporting niggers
If there's one thing I'll always enjoy about Souls games it's the names players come up with for shit
>>339076647
I did the same but had a shit load of vig. Still kicked my ass for ages though
>>339080009
Irrelevant, TOH recently came out and is much more difficult than das3
>soul of cinders was the easiest boss
>ahaint
Why are these games so anticlimactic
I thought the pvp for this game was supposed to be full of epin super bad ass invaders that rek your shit lmao, but I've literally just stomped the shit out of all of them within seconds and this is my first souls. Could you guys be lying about how "gud" you really are?
>>339079889
Okay.
>>339079947
I agree on Orphan, but I didn't really get the hype behind Maria.
>>339079990
I found them much more challenging.
But that's more because I was very used to BB's systems at the time, and the insanely fast healing and dodge spam in that game trivialises a lot of the content.
I prefer pontiff, nameless king and twin princes because like Ludwig, they get the atmosphere, and music absolutely perfect.
I just think they are better is all.
>>339080009
I'm a shitter who played DS3 before DS1 and the difficulty isn't even comparable. DS1 just lets you circle strafe with a shield against just about every normal enemy and the bosses are pretty damn slow and easy to dodge. The hardest bosses in DS1 are all bosses where you have to fight multiple enemies.
>everyone who plays this game must play the same
Take that retarded logic back to CoD where it belongswith your weakass trolling
>>339080193
Orphan is more difficult.
Ludwig I would put on tier with Soul of Cinder, Twin Princes, Nameless and Champion Gundyr in terms of difficulty.
Maria and Laurence were fairly easy, and the failures were trivial.
>>339080085
He's got about the same amount of moves as any other boss. Unless you're counting both phases moves together which is silly because he doesn't use phase 1 attacks in 2 and vice versa.
I honestly found every boss in DS3 to be immensely disappointing once it became clear that there was basically one efficient way to beat them.
Nameless King for example in second phase literally all I did was bait out his leap attack and then hit him while he recovered. I never took a hit, and the fight was boring as fuck, but it also felt like I was forced to do it because other methods were hugely inefficient and overly punishing (I literally died if I took two hits).
>>339080193
DLC of Soulsborne games have always been the hardest. If you're going to compare TOH difficulty then compare it with the upcoming DS3 DLC.
>>339080194
Again*
>>339080332
I died more on ludwig than I did to all the bosses in das3 combined so I disagree. His attacks are far less telegraphed and require higher reaction times
>>339080396
AotA proves you wrong, but I am holding out for harder bosses in the dlc
>>339078715
It's funny because that the only boss that I was actually able to do solo on my first try.
The rest I lost to like 10 times and then summoned someone for help.
>>339080550
Manus and Kalameet were a lot harder than any boss in the base game.
>>339080473
Was BB your first game?
Ludwig took me 6 attempts the first time I tried it, by comparison, Nameless took me 11, twin princes 15, and champion gundyr 12.
With Ludwig his first phase was incredibly easy because you could dodge around his swipe attacks and stagger him very quickly, once you realised this you could do it repeatedly while dodging his other attacks until he got to his phase 2, which comparatively was a ton easier.
The only attacks which bothered me were the jumping and charge attacks, the first of which is mostly a result of the awkward timing, and the second of which has the same "hit the tiny part of the body" issues as Ebrietas's charge.
Orphan took me around 20-25 goes.
>>339074905
do you get paid for baiting this hard?
>>339080745
I killed champion gundyr first try
Ludwig took like 30 thou...
Pontiff was still the hardest boss for me. NK was more punishing than hard since he was pretty slow but his attacks had some weird delay and hit for like 3/4th of my health. At least for me, I died most to Pontiff and then 2nd was the Princes and 3rd was NK.
>>339080194
gwyn fucked me up hard never giving me a chance to estus till i switched armor so i could tank his hits and heal
Am I the only one that thinks these games look beautiful. No one ever talks about the graphics
>>339080550
What boss is harder than Manus?
Gwyn? lolparry
4kings? Maybe in NG+
O&S? Maybe if your using the drake sword.
SoC raped me the hardest out of all the bosses, followed by Nameless. I probably died 30 times to the former and 20 to the latter
None of the others were too hard, I don't think I went above 10 deaths for any of them. Most were 3-5, first tried a bunch like Deacons, Dragonslayer and the Champ
The bosses were generally pretty well designed and athmospheric, apart from the disappointment that was Yhorm after how the trailer hyped him
>>339074905
This boss was hard for any normal person, go back to >>>/b/ kiddo, fucking NEET.
>>339082213
Faggot
>>339082374
Fuck off niglet.
>>339074905
Sorcerer character?
Isn't people experiencing the game differently a good thing?
>>339082640
2H zweihander
>>339074905
Personally, I went there under leveled. Cleared Nameless King with a bit of trouble and a lot of ranged weaponry, but I did it.
Helped people by putting down my sign and most of the people at my level couldn't fucking do it either.
I came back 20 levels later and helped more people, and the consistency of clearing among hosts was much higher.
>>339074905
>cursed tree
>hardest
LMAO
Tree hard?
Its a wonder you can operate a keyboard without killing yourself.
>>339080745
No, I played all of them in order
Ludwig took me like 25 tries, I beat the 3 bosses you posted either on my second or third try
I guess ludwig depends on what level you go in, I was 61
>>339080597
>>339081605
Ya 4 kangz and o&s
>>339083601
I was around about 50 or so.
>>339083813
Good shit what weapon were you using?
I was using meme blade again ludwig and blessed rapier/lightning estoc in das3
>>339083601
>I guess ludwig depends on what level you go in, I was 61
You could say that for a lot of bosses. >>339083173 Personally, I think people struggle with nameless king for similar reasons.
It's really easy to get in to his area at level 60 flat, and you'll likely soft cap around there. The areas you can access preceding it won't give you enough souls to easily breach past that unless you're farming a bunch, but the dragon area opens up immediately to you after that. It's just a question of which way you went. If you keep tromping on to Dragonslayer Armor first instead, you'll probably come back to Nameless King at around 70 to 80, and that makes it a shitload easier to beat him.
For low level bosses, I would bet you most people rush to fill out stats to wield an early stat heavy weapon before filling in health or stamina, or they're a caster and can't afford any of the above.
>>339084823
Well I don't think so since most of das3 is linear and I had no problems with champ or twin princes
On top of this ludwig required me to be familiar with his entire moveset; I beat nameless only knowing like half
Is dark souls 2 any good?
>>339085062
The game gets less linear the further you go in. Then sort of leaves the gate open at the end. Which is about where you can meet nameless king 20 levels too early for your own good.
For earlier bosses, I covered that. Most people probably don't consider leveling efficiency and just rush to fill out their required stats. They want to use a weapon that needs 20 strength and by god they will have that before they even reach the fucking woods.
Which makes the game noticeably harder compared to using a basic tier weapon with light stat requirements and focusing on health and stamina first.
>>339085575
Yes but keep in mind it's the weakest
You will love it if ur a pvp fag though
>>339085062
Champion gundyr can potentially be the 4th boss in the game.
Nameless King can be accessed before yhorm or pontiff.
>>339085575
it's great, but out of principle everyone on this board will reply and tell you it's bad.
>>339075353
Thr princes second phase is easy as shit with s long weapon. I used Carthus curved great sword and swung at the right spot to hit both easily. Once the little one goes down to revive you just DPS him down.
>>339085575
The combat and levels(well, taken on their own. how they connect to eachother is a different matter) and magic are all, in truth, really good. The game is also aesthetically pleasing and runs well. Poise was really well balanced and a lot of weapons were viable.
It would probably be the superior souls game if not for a few key idiotic decisions. Soul Memory is the primary offender, but lacking any sort permanent invasion items was similarly ridiculous. Probably a few other things I blotted out from my memory too.
Kind of a shame. DS2 had a ton of good ideas that probably got ignored by From because of the bad reception things like SM caused.
>>339074905
>doing faith build
>my lighting long Sword fucks everything
>mfw Dragon Slayer Armour fucks my shit with his lightning resistance
Should I respec for this fight? I barely do any damage to him
>>339087529
Bring up a weapon that's good RAW or something.
>>339079208
fight the Primoridal Serpents as a giant abyss hydra, only to find out that they're teamed up withVelka
>>339087529
>doing a faith build
you already fucked up
>>339076154
Maybe if you're a pussy.
>>339075353
Kekd
the abyss watchers are so easy to read
>>339078434
Venom Snake.
>>339090069
not canon
>>339076448
In this case it IS a meme. Crystal Sages, Abyss Watchers and the Cursed Tree are among the easiest bosses after the ones which all but kill themselves, like Wolnir.
OP is trying to do that comic of a bunch of faggots lining up to say "you had trouble with [boss 1] get a load of THIS guy"
I don't care if this was the easiest, or the hardest, or the literalliest. This mother fucking boss was so cool, was the kind of fight I was expecting from Gwyn in DS1.
>>339079208
>top ludwig
Ludwig was a trash boss in all honesty. He just flailed around. Only his second form was worth a fuck.
Is that really what this fanbase wants? More haphazard flailing inflatable arm bosses? It really is normie as fuck now. Souls series is fucked.
>>339091028
Better than boss with extremely telegraphed moves #10 in das3
