How is Drakengard 1 gameplay wise? I want to get into it, but a friend of mine who loves the series described the gameplay as awful and said I shouldn't force myself through it. Mind, he only said that about Drakengard 1.
he's right
the same applies to all of them
He's right, the gameplay is terrible. Absolute shit. You play it more for the experience. The story, the absolutely fucked up characters that do horrendous things, and the wierd as fuck plot twist that eventually leads into Nier.
Never, ever play Drakengard for the gameplay.
Does anyone have that post about how Drakengard is game that shouldn't exist?
The gameplay is mindnumbingly awful and the repetitive music tracks will mesh with the gameplay to drive you insane as you try to get all the endings.
It's a special experience, you could say.
The gameplay is dreadful, I've never gotten bored of a combat system so quickly in my life. Classic Final Fantasy combat where you just pick shit from menus was better.
It's literally a game you play for everything but the gameplay, which is really weird.
The gameplay in Drakengard is down right terrible. It's definitely worth the experience
>>339067085
He's only said that Drakengard 1 was so bad that I shouldn't play it. The others he said, are still bad, but not unbearably so.
>>339067087
>>339067230
If I can put up with Nier's gameplay, will I be able to get through Drakengard?
>>339066991
If you take Dynasty Warriors gameplay, make it worse, and then add in a useless dragon mount, then that's the regular gameplay.
There's also missions where you have to fly around as the dragon shooting down stuff and that is hell.
Drakengard as a whole plays like shit for the most part. Part of the suffering though that everyone should endure.Nier friends get a pass for watching the LP of the first since it emulates like shit and not everyone has a PS2
>>339067475
>If I can put up with Nier's gameplay, will I be able to get through Drakengard?
You can try, but there's no real guarantee. Drakengard is just a really special kind of horrible, there's no real way to describe it. As you're grinding shitty maps with shitty textures and draw distances with repetitive and bland button mashing animations and awful looped music that grates on the ears, you realize that you're really doing it just so the game can fuck you over in every single ending without the slightest chance of redemption.
It's...something.
Judging from gameplay videos, Drakengard 3 looks a lot better in its presentation. Is the combat improved from the previous installments?
>>339067475
Drakegard 1 is a bad musou clone (like dynasty warriors) with some dragon flying thrown in. The ground combat is slow and clunky, camera is always fighting against you and the minimap is incomprehensible.
The areal missions and missions where you can use your dragon are actually decent, but not good.
Story is terribly written, but it is all kinds of fucked up. Simply put the game is an experience. I wouldn't reccomend it to anyone but I am glad I played through it and not just watched the cutscenes or a letsplay on youtube.
Nier's gameplay is a lot faster, is way more polished and is enjoyable as long as you dont grind for anything.
>>339067998
Just ground combat, though the frame rate can have some nasty drops.
Dragon stuff felt worse for the most part, except when your fighting some of the Watchers/angels since you have much more freedom. Unfortunately most of the angels are boring as hell, too.
Not the OP, but I wanted to get Nier: Automata when it comes out. I'll get Nier, but the responses to this thread make me reluctant to get into Drakenguard. 3's combat looks okay, dunno about 2. Can I just watch an LP of 1 and skip to the others? Is 2 at least tolerable?
>>339068051
Like I said, I want to get into it and I don't want to be a fag who just watches an LP, but I don't have a ps2, and if it emulates like shit like >>339067550
says, I might be shit out of luck.
>>339068257
Different guy here, Drakengard emulated pretty well for me personally. What I can't figure out is how my PC emulates Drakengard, God Hand, DMC3 and Shinobi flawlessly, but Soul Calibur 3 makes it shit itself.
>>339067998
Ground combat is improved a lot, but still lacks polish. You constantly hit invisible walls, clip through things and the game looks a bit jaggy. That aside I enjoyed it a lot more than D1.
You no longer have missions where you can use your dragon. Missions are ether areal or ground.
Unlike drakengard 1 its more of a corridor hack and slash like dmc. Its also a lot shorter than 1, each chapter only has 5-6 verses and the first route ends in 5 chapters.
The music is great though, best thing about the game.
>>339068257
I emulated it on a toaster, it ran a bit slow at times but was definitely playable.
>>339066991
It's clunky and more than a little grind-y, but the rest of the game should be compelling enough to keep you playing.
>>339068227
Drakengard 2 is probably the worst of all games. Not only gameplay is awful, but it also does not have good story.
Drakengard 3 would be mediocre slasher if it wasn't for literally 5 fps gameplay.
OP here, I'm gonna emulate it. Wish me luck. I'll let you know if and when I clear it.
>>339069320
Alright. Hope you like it.
>>339068764
2B a cute.
>>339068943
>Drakengard 3 would be mediocre slasher if it wasn't for literally 5 fps gameplay.
Sounds rough, but the story seems interesting enough. I'll probably get 3 and Nier and just look up/watch 1 and 2. Thanks.
>>339069320
Brace your ears, and good luck.
>>339066991
It's ok, not good or bad, just ok.
>>339069407
>no E3 will ever come close to last years when Nier 2 was announced out of nowhere.
No one expected it at all, much less handled by platinum.
Words cant describe the joy I felt with every second of that reveal trailer as the credits rolled on.
>>339069708
>the moment when Keiichi Okabe name was shown on screen
>could it be?
>Few seconds later: Yoko Taro
>it can't fucking be.
>Nier:Automata
>>339069708
>handled by platinum
Hopefully that's where all the effort went to since Star Fox and TMNT are the wettest farts of the year.
>>339069930
Not sure if this was explained, but why are Nier Gestalt and Replicant 100 years apart?
Post favorite Drakengard/Nier OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zle1ZfxQc
>>339069975
The gameplay already looks like a carbon copy of revengance. They are not planning to let this be a shitty cashgrab like Avatar or TMNT.
When in doubt just play the game
>>339069930
Ah shit. Do I have to play both versions of Nier to get the story? I have a PS3 and an 360, but still.
>>339069708
>Words cant describe the joy I felt with every second of that reveal trailer as the credits rolled on.
I'm pretty sure this was every fan's reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYRzTvrrP8
>>339069975
Isn't being made since someone at Platinum really loved Nier? If so, it sounds like someones dream project, not something to do to keep the company afloat.
>>339070234
Just play the English version, there's no point in splitting hairs since the differences are minor
>>339070234
If I recall, Papa Nier is the only version the westerners got. But nii-chan Nier is DLC.
>>339070234
It's just flavor.
>>339069930
Drakengard 1 takes place after the ending in the novelization of Drakengard 3. 1.3 is after D3's Ending A.
>>339070118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOFd-blyVS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1gVwUDz0Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s3ctffSCc
Last one isn't in the game, but I still like it a lot.
>>339070384
>>339070446
>>339070503
Oh, okay. Is there any siginificance in performance between the PS3 or 360 western release, or should I just go with whatever? I'll probably go with 360.
>shit /v/ has tricked you into playing
>>339070548
Second link is still my favorite version of Growing Wings.
I lost my shit on the buildup of Exhausted 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWiFbZCLMkM
>>339070742
Not really. Just pick one.
>>339070757
It's shitposting free zone here, friendo. Make your own bait thread.
>>339070820
Cool. Will do.
>>339070818
I like this one, too.
Drakengard 1 is pretty terrible, every chapter is "kill the highlighted enemies then get to the waypoint to continue". You have one attack string and a magic attack.
Drakengard 2 is a little better, it has the beginnings of a combo system and some actual environmental puzzles though they're usually little more than "hit the crystal to open a door"
Haven't played 3
>>339070827
The gameplay is abyssmal, no story is gonna make it worthwhile.[I am not your friendo, matey./spoiler]
>>339070118
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABvMsCV10W4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OKs0zvj88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC-55ZEmoKs
I miss hacked together from various classical pieces OST of Drakengard 1. It fits the game so well.
>>339069930
Can we just pretend Drakengard 2 never happened? Fuck that was stupid
I played it as a kid and thought it was good but I replayed it a few years ago and it is pretty shit. The gameplay is basically a worse DW with no allies and getting good weapons is a total and complete grindfest. The soundtrack is also laughably bad, I'm pretty sure every track is the same 15 seconds on loop. The world map is literally europe turned upside down - did they think nobody would notice that lazy shit?
That being said, I really enjoyed the dragon mount, aerial battles, the story (ESPECIALLY some of the extra endings), and the characters. If you're going to play it make sure you pack headphones. It shouldnt take very long but if you want the final hidden ending you have to collect ALL the weapons which is mind numbingly shitty.
>>339070345
Some of the people in project played and liked Nier, but it wasnt the reason for the sequel. Square needed a game developed by platinum it could have been any title ever but then square decided to give Nier a shot, likely because one of Taro's friends saw an opportunity and took it. Both parties were happy with this decision.
In one interview Taro confessed that the best thing about this collaboration is that he and Kamiya became drinking buddies.
>>339071523
We honestly can't. Caim was too fucking good in it to ignore.
>>339071725
Yeah yeah, Caim was fucking awesome and getting to see grown-up Manah completely shit her pants when he first appeared was great. Also stabbing death so hard that it dies was pretty cool too.
But that was like maybe 30 minutes of awesome in exchange for hours upon hours of one of the dumbest, most insufferable protagonists and the holy-shit-this-is-dumb story.
>>339071565
Apparently Midgard actually is (or was) Europe, but the arrival of the Cathedral City, dragons, etc. kinda screwed everything up.
>>339071523
I'd say Undub is worth one playthrough for the first ending, then feel free to drop the game.
>>339072112
>Apparently
>>339070967
It's not a secret that gameplay in the Drakengard series is dogshit. Even fans warn people about playing these games.
If you went into it regardless while thinking story isn't worth bad gameplay then you're literally retarded.
>>339072112
>>339072508
It really didn't take long for the inhabitants of Not-Spain to build those twin towers and make an empire.
>>339073006
The city was already there. It's the same one from Drakengard 3.
>>339073132
Yeah, but the twin towers weren't.
Drakengard 3 is literally the most cringiest experience I've ever had with anything.
Nier was alright.
Dunno bout 1 and 2.
>play through Drakengard
>"k cool I think I get it"
>read what other people got from Drakengard's story
>I didn't get it at all
Man how do you guys even find out all this shit?
Why the hell are people saying that Drakengard is horrible
It wasn't great but that's some serious overreaction
I started playing Drakengard 1 today for the first time today. After an hour... I'm not that impressed. The aerial fighting isn't as good as I supposed it to be (Panzer Dragoon) and the melee was horrid until I leveled up my weapon for longer combos. Also the music is horrible. Who said it's good is either lying or it picks up later. Also the game looks like a PS1 game, especially the talking scenes where the game becomes zoomed in WC3 tier.
Overall not impressed but the story SHOULD save it, I just have to play some more.
>>339073535
Novels, grimmoire Nier, other games in the series etc
>>339067219
This one?
>>339074117
It has pretty repetetive gameplay and if youre a compleationist the grind is insane. To get best last ending you also have to do all the grind from what i remember.
>>339074302
And weapon descriptions. Don't forget the weapon descriptions.
>>339074549
Some of them are pretty cool
>>339074475
How insane is the grind?
>>339074549
>tfw Automata is bringing them back
>>339074117
The ground levels are fine, but the dragon combat is abysmal,which is really surprising, because I'm still having fun while playing.I feel bad, that I jumped onto the Nier/Drakengard train a few months ago.Mostly because I can't find Nier anywhere.
>>339074814
1200 kills for final level on most grindy weapons
By the way is there way to bump up kills with weapon using cheat engine or something?
I can easily increase kill themself but they are fucking useless when they don't upgrade weapons
>>339074814
In order to get the final ending you must get each of the 65 weapons. Most of them are scattered on story missions and require you to ful fill a condition before they appear. If you use a guide (which you should, since game gives you no hints on how to get them) getting about 40 of these weapons should be relatively painless.
The last 25 require you to complete additional missions some. The most painful one was the timed areal mission where you couldn't lose more than 50% of your HP, couldnt use your magic attacks and must complete the mission in less than 4 minutes. There was only a few missions as cruel as this, but those were bullshit.
>>339075525
So all in all, it's hard to blame someone who opts not to play through it? Or does the enjoyment of the story come from some weird honest-to-god masochistic experience of forcing yourself through the game, like I've heard?
>>339075804
No fan of the series would blame you for not playing the game.
I have strange felling that people that say this game has atrocious combat forced themselves to play it even though they hated it
>>339076180
Most these games are like that. I think the torturous gameplay is intentional too. The games have gotten better at it over the games but even Drakengard 3 throws its final middle finger at the final boss.
>>339076180
Everyone hates this game after trying to get ending E.That's kinda the point
>>339076180
It's an "experience". Like eating really bitter food, or reading depressive russian literature.
>>339075804
No one would blame you for anything, but honestly why get into a series known for its shit gameplay if the said gameplay scares you that much? Sure you will know most story points, but you will miss out on the experience itself which might lessen the enjoyment you receive in the end.
All I'm saying is give it a try, then decide if you want to drop it or not.
>>339076180
I kinda did, I heard that Nier had some references to D1 so I wanted to finish that before I got Nier.
I don't think the combat is as horrible as people make it out to be, it's like a slightly shittier Dynasty Warriors. Still bad of course.
I also don't know why people say Nier has bad combat, I thought it was alright. Not Bayonetta tier but decent for the kind of game it is.
>>339076180
>mfw flying babies come out of nowhere
>>339076419
The ISO is downloading right now, hopefully the emulator will run fine.
>>339076357
No, the point is you hate the game when you first start playing through it. By the time you get to ending E you're supposed to be so mindbroken that nothing really even matters.
>>339076016
Speak for yourself, its rather embarrassing to hear people talk about games they never played.
>>339076614
But I find this game fun
It's just that getting 1k+ kill to level weapon once is kinda boring
At least with weapons I don't really like
