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>he doesn't play monk
Explain
>>339049196
>339049196
rip mistweaver, best healing spec out of any game ever will be going in the toilet for legion in favor of simpler gameplay
>>339049326
forgot pic
![latest[4].png](https://i.imgur.com/7RCLiZx.png "latest[4].png")
>>339049196
They're beasts
they should all be destroyed
>>339050000
Pandaren are made for loving
Warrior best class
dk/paladin babies no need to apply
![warcraft_lothar[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pCCPikB.jpg "warcraft_lothar[1].jpg")
>>339050225
Are you sure of that?
>>339049196
I'm not a fucking loser
>>339049419
I don't even play monk, I play Paladin but why do this? why fucking do this?
Holinka and that faggot Jay Wilson need to be fucking shot.
GIVE ME BACK MY BLESSINGS, MY SEALS AND MY AURAS YOU FUCK, DIVINE INTERVENTION TOO.
EVEN THOUGH SEAL OF BLOOD HURT ME I STILL LOVED USING IT.
expansions TAKE AWAY more than they bring.
yes I'm mad.
>>339049196
>>339050225
You have 3 whole boards to shit up, but you choose /v/
>>339050779
You can't shit up a shit hole
i just cant say no the silly hat
Because i actually like dealing proper damage.
WW is trash at it.
they ruined monk with WoD prepatch.
they fucked the energy regen and now they play like kitty with shit gear. so fucking slow
>>339052194
Is there any class they didn't ruin?
>>339053598
Shadow Priest and Ele/Enh Shaman are supposed to have fun rotations, but they still pruned the fuck out of both of those classes. Shaman have like 1 baseline totem now and 3-4 they can pick up through talents.
>>339050679
Paladin has been the most gimmick ridden class in all of WoW. A whole lot of buttons to do very little outside of maybe prot.
>>339050225
No, not really. They have the same look that Tauren have, in that they look like they smell like shit or wet dog.
>>339054048
I miss my utility and buffs.
>>339053598
Dk's got a pretty rocking update unholy got the flavor it's needed since cata and frost is basically playing LK
Enhance shammies look fun as fuck, ele got better (it was impossible to make worse infairness), resto is resto
Druids have nothing to cry about and if you see one doing it shoot them
Locks went neutral on destro affliction but demo got a good update
Fury's pretty interesting right now
Assassination is better, sub is totally changed jury is out on if its fun or not. Pirate went full roll the bones so no one will raid on it ever
Both DH's are ok/good/passable not bad?
Survival feels outdated with maintenance buffs, mm's pretty fun imo, No idea on BM.
Shadow went full old gods and it's crazy, Im not even game to try disc, holy is still the most basic healer in the world
I don't know or care about pallies, mages and monks.
>>339053874
Legit prove to me enhance didn't need pruning no one agrees they went far enough in WoD, having 18 spells that do nothing is not better then 12 spells that are middling is not better then 8 spells that matter.
>>339049196
They cannot become best class.
>>339054543
>defending ability pruning
>>339054974
>Against ability pruning
>>339054621
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/
>>>/vg/wowg
>>339055135
>wanting the game to become easier, more shallow, and less engaging
>>339055338
If you weren't using those spells in the first place, nothing is changing.
>>339055413
Every ability that every class had was used all the time. It's called PvP, the real bread and butter of the game. Just because a casual shitter such as yourself never found a use for Grounding Totem in your super ebin normal raiding minigame doesn't mean it should be entirely removed from the game. If you never touched it to begin with, those types of spells being in the game don't affect you in any way shape or form. Just take them off your bars if you wish.
>>339054974
Have you ever played enhance? I'll take at any level ever.
Of all the specs it actually needed pruning at the end of MoP having like 3 semi rotational abilities that contribute together like 15% of your dps is not deep engaging or fun its needless busy work that doesn't contribute to fun.
Fun is getting a triple crit wind fury proc, fun is fisting someone/something with lavalash
>>339049196
Shit class in shit game that came out in age when game was not good anymore and even then I would rather play DK or Warlock instead of Chinese Druid
>>339055914
>big numbers and flashing lights are fun!
t. braindead casual shitter
Engaging gameplay is fun. Learning a rotation and performing it well and being rewarded with good DPS/HPS/TPS/etc. is what's fun. You honestly just want to mash 2 buttons and have the entire game play itself. You are the cancer. Or you're baiting. You're probably baiting.
>Monk
That is a Guild Wars class.
>He still plays retail
How much of a battered housewife do you even need to be to still be subbed to an expansion that was more expensive and only had a single raid patch? Not to mention the year+ content gap since then.
>>339056305
>subbed
What are tokens
>>339049196
I don't play garbage games like Warcraft.
>>339055784
Rockbiter weapon literally had no point existing in the game since fucking prealpha when they decided enhance wouldn't be a tank spec (BTW its getting added back in legion in a way that matters muh flavor muh iconic)
I bet popping spirit walkers and water shield on your fucking enh shammy got you multi season glad
Don't forget earth shock which 100% was never used in pvp ever because frost shock was better in every way
Now hop on your nonexistant vicious mount (because lets get real here you've never played wow seriously and you were just shit posting) and take your bullshit elsewhere.
>>339056378
>pick between g2p or p2p in bad game
in both cases you're losing more than gaining
>>339056573
>earth shock was never used
>spell interrupt was never used
out
NOW
>>339056378
Blizzard makes MORE money from tokens than if you just subbed. Not only are you rewarding them for the abysmal lack of content in WoD you're also enabling goldselling.
>find being a combat rogue fun as fuck, most fun I've had in world PvP in the entire game
>I have to be a pirate now
>>339053598
Speaking as a warrior
The whole class was wrecked.
Arms is slower with even fewer buttons and is squishy as hell
Fury is ok-ish, but it suffers from extreme button bloat on the basic rotation and a strong need to juggle buffs to work.
Prot, they removed the fantastic change that everyone liked and now gain most of their rage from taking damage again, making them less fun with gear. Also their new attack roots them in place and is pretty much useless.
On a side note, their class storyline has nothing to do with warriors and is all kinds of stupid and retcon-e. Hell, it retcons parts of the new lore book.
>>339056829
Outlaw is also complete garbage.
>>339049196
>he plays WoW
Explain
Just be a Holy cow
Also timeline fucked up again.
>>339054048
>most gimmick ridden class
>not old Warlock
>>339056573
>Rockbiter weapon
Small groups where a Shaman might want to take threat over a clothie party member. Shaman were also very capable of offtanking all the way up to MC if they were geared for it. Rockbiter being in the game even though they weren't intended to be tanks hurts literally nobody. Take it off your bars if you don't like it.
>spirit walkers and water shield
Again, these abilities have their time and place. Them existing hurts absolutely no one, if you don't like it take them off your bars.
>Don't forget earth shock which 100% was never used in pvp ever because frost shock was better in every way
Don't like it, don't use it.
>Now hop on your nonexistant vicious mount (because lets get real here you've never played wow seriously and you were just shit posting
Old screenshot, but pic related.
>>339056997
Well fuck me running. I was hoping change would be a good thing, but it never is.What's so bad about it?
>>339049196
>He plays WoW
Explain
>>339056139
>big numbers and flashing lights are fun!
Thousands of vanilla fucks to this day cry day and night about losing twohand enh because they cant oneshot stuff with a windfury proc any more.
Also your point is so wrong you clearly don't raid (or as I suspect have ever played seriously) enhance, You didn't mash two buttons in MoP, you don't in WoD and you wont in legion, the main changes in legion is the addition of a rotational ability and our AoE redesign from the assload of cancer it used to be that people cried for since cata.
The only one baiting/nostalgia wanking/defending something you don't understand because it appeals to your view that 'wow was better in the past' is you.
>>339057136
>He's still posting his 2015 glad screenshot as if it's worth fucking anything
Oh my god you are so precious.
>>339057179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymAEnXKE0po
>>339049196
What an oddly proportioned pandaren.
>>339057289
>ask for proof of playing
>get proof of playing
>HAHA TOO OLD DOESN'T MEAN SHIT
??
>>339056719
Don't care. I still get to play for free.
>tfw fucking Runescape gets more content updates than WoW does
ahahaha
>check the thread
>the usual shitposters are not here
They are literally in high school...
>>339057276
>Thousands of vanilla fucks to this day cry day and night about losing twohand enh because they cant oneshot stuff with a windfury proc any more
It's more of a reminisce than actually crying about it.
>You didn't mash two buttons in MoP, you don't in WoD and you wont in legion, the main changes in legion is the addition of a rotational ability and our AoE redesign from the assload of cancer it used to be that people cried for since cata.
I said in this very thread that Enh Shaman were one of the few who didn't get shafted rotationally. Their problem is that their utility has gotten completely stripped down. You've conjured an argument that I didn't actually present. You're making things up.
>The only one baiting/nostalgia wanking/defending something you don't understand because it appeals to your view that 'wow was better in the past' is you.
Nostalgia has nothing to do with it. More buttons = More interesting and engaging gameplay. If you can't be bothered to keybind and want to deal with less spells to click so it's easier for you, you can still do that. Don't kill the game for people who aren't retarded though.
>>339057445
I'm not that guy, I saw you post it in another thread.
2015 glad doesn't mean fucking shit, my man. No serious pvpers play any more.
Panda girls are perfect
They're pruning abilities so they can put the game on consoles not because its actually needed
>>339057687
Have you ever gotten Gladiator? If so, post proof. Or you're just talking shit about something you know nothing about.
>>339057687
There's a large handful of people who've consistently gotten r1 since BC/WotLK that still play. Cdew, Venruki, Jahmilli, Snutz, Smexxin, Rosita, Asbur, Absterge, Beanslayer, and a few more.
You claimed that I've never played WoW seriously. I proved you wrong. Get over it shitter.
>>339056829
I have a strong feeling the did this just to create more pirate tribal in Hearthstone.
>>339057136
>Every ability that every class had was used all the time
Was the claim, I retort with spells that were functionally useless for enhance
'Don't like it take it off your bars'
Something's not adding up here, also yes in vanilla enhance could OT BRD but are you trying to argue that over a decade of content later a spell that was once used in a pinch for pre raid content was a functional spell that had to exist?
You're acting like Blizzard never removed redundant spells before MoP which if your screen shot is to be believed you should know about.
>>339057916
How do you defend Blizzard gutting Warlocks then? They went from being an interesting class with unique mechanics, like spellstones, to just a bland spellcaster.
>>339057362
>ranged combo point fountain
>eviscerate nerfed
>self-heal now costs energy, not combo points
Jesus, what the fuck are they doing?
Roll the Bones can fuck right off. There's enough RNG without making an ability have a random effect too. Fucking hell m8.
>>339057916
>had to exist
Nothing """has""" to exist. World of Warcraft has to exist. It exists because it's fun though. Those abilities that are """functionally useless""" in your shitter opinion don't hurt you at all by existing. If you don't like using them, take them off your bar. Don't advocate the game dying to anyone with a triple digit IQ though. We don't want shallow gameplay and combat.
>You're acting like Blizzard never removed redundant spells before MoP
Blizzard has been pruning/consolidating/homogenizing classes and abilities since Cata. I didn't approve of it then and I don't approve of it now. Just because it's happened before doesn't mean it's okay for it to happen again.
>>339049196
>thinner Pandaren
If this was what they were like in the game Id actually play them.
>>339057892
Haven't played since Cata so my account is set to deactivated and I can't see my achievements. I'm not activating my account and giving Blizzard another "sub" to fluff their numbers up with just to prove a 2015 glad shitter wrong.
>>339057898
That wasn't me that was a random shit poster
>>339058247
You can check them online through the WoW Armory you lying shitter.
>>339058247
>I'm not activating my account and giving Blizzard another "sub" to fluff their numbers up with just to prove a 2015 glad shitter wrong.
How would you showing me your ebin BC glad prove me wrong in any way?
>>339049196
i did and remember being top dps on every fight by a fucking landslide in throne of thunder
fuck monk
>>339058247
So wait, you haven't played the game since Cataclysm yet you're talking about hte game's PvP being dead in 2015? Even if you haven't played it?
Wow man, you must be so knowledgeable.
>>339058298
If your account has been inactive for a certain amount of time the Armory doesn't show anymore. I think the limit is 2 years.
>>339049196
Because I playedreal classes.
>>339058298
>>339058390
>Needing to play something to understand why it's shit
Not if you've got an IQ above 50.
>>339050402
For Orcs
There is no other life but whores
>>339058324
I want a pandaren gf
So does monk really suck? That's what I was playing and my friend plays DK and he does almost double my damage. The only way I can keep up is if I pop all my CDs.
>>339058439
Guess I'll just to have to trust you on your word that you know what you're talking about then :^)
>>339058527
respond to this>>339058307
>get a free 90 boost from blizzard
>"hey let's try mage"
>frost and arcane both uses 5 buttons to dps
>literally infinity mana
Well, at least teleport/portal, blink, polymorph, slow fall and ice block are still in the game.
>>339058527
So you agree you haven't played the game in 2+ years, yet you think you know enough to discredit someone else's achievements.
Yeah dude, sure. You're so smart.
>>339058606
the dps spec is kinda shit right now but the other two are ok
>>339058307
I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm laughing at you being a shitter who is so proud that he got 2015 glad that he can't stop waving his "achievement" around in every WoW thread.
>>339058726
Getting glad in 2015 is harder than getting glad whenever you got it, I guarantee it. If you even got glad that is.
That's not the point though. I was accused of never playing seriously, that screenshot proves him wrong so I posted it.
>>339057136
Ability pruning is for shit like hunters having to set tracking with an ability button and having a dozen tracking variants, or paladins having an individual blessing and a raid blessing. They've gone off the fucking deep end and decided they want to rebalance every fucking class every expansion for no raisin.
>>339058064
This whole thing spilled out from me pointing out that enhance needed pruning and that in some cases pruning was justified in mop which as you know is heresy on /v/ because only TBC was good and everything was better/harder in the past.
If you want to talk about locks that's fine but it's nothing to do with me
>>339058184
>Nothing """has""" to exist
Shifting goal posts 101, and besides that irrelevance are you trying to cut this both ways saying that enhance needed every spell while at that same time saying that some spells were pointless but enhance should have it anyway?
I feel like you should pick one
>Blizzard has been pruning/consolidating/homogenizing classes and abilities since Cata.
No they've been doing it since TBC but no one ever cries about that because its not cool to shit on TBC on /v/.
The fact is times change, specs change some times spells have to go its always been like this people just kicked up shit on /v/ as a kneejerk without actually understanding what was happening because its cool to talk shit about anything perceived as casualisation.
I dropped after WOTLK, can someone tell me how are warriors in Legion pvp?
>>339058636
Not for long, some new shitters will whine about the 9s polymorph, that the blink teleport too far.
And Blizzard will nerf it for the next patch.
>>339056718
>earth shock in vanilla/tbc
>using it for interrupts
In Vanilla you wouldn't have enough hit for it, ever and in TBC ele wouldn't use it because a permanent 1% resist chance is a chance no one wants to take.
>>339058886
>Getting glad in 2015 is harder than getting glad whenever you got it, I guarantee it
Alright man whatever you say :^)
>>339058894
>Ability pruning is for shit like hunters having to set tracking with an ability button and having a dozen tracking variants
I had an entire bar dedicated to tracking spells including mining and herbs. I was super glad when they just changed it to the thing on the minimap.
>>339049196
>Playing WoW these days
>Playing WoW after WoTLK
>Playing any MMO these days
Anon...
How did Blizzard to manage to make an expansion worse than WoD? We had a full year of HFC and the expansion is STILL garbage despite all this development time.
Are they so incompetent? Holy shit.
>>339059243
Their model, the lack of good writers, trying to make it more forgiving and more accessible...
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
>>339058064
>unique mechanics
>like spellstone
Y-yeah a useless wand alternative sure is great compared to 3 unique resources that no other classes have anything similar to
>>339059059
>Shifting goal posts 101, and besides that irrelevance are you trying to cut this both ways saying that enhance needed every spell while at that same time saying that some spells were pointless but enhance should have it anyway?
If an ability has any use at all, no matter how niche it is, it has a use. Keeping the ability there for people who want to use it in those situations detracts nothing from anyone else. If you don't like it, take it off your bars.
>No they've been doing it since TBC but no one ever cries about that because its not cool to shit on TBC on /v/
The amount of abilities and complexity added from Vanilla -> BC was substantial. Same goes for BC -> WotLK. Any abilities that they happened to remove were well made up for. That's not the case for Cata/MoP/WoD/Legion.
>The fact is times change
Yeah and apparently that means the game has to turn to shit.
>some times spells have to go its always been like this people just kicked up shit on /v/ as a kneejerk without actually understanding what was happening because its cool to talk shit about anything perceived as casualisation.
It's not a knee jerk reaction over casualization, the quality of the gameplay is being severely diminished. People understand it just fine.
>>339059456
>useless wand alternative
I think you're confused anon. And don't get me wrong, i'm salty about all the casualization that they did to Warlock, but it started with spellstones.
>>339049196
Because most of my mains areworgenand Monk is just another cool class they can't be thanks to Blizzard's terrible race/class combo decisions.
I'm still bitter they removed Eyes of the Beast.
How's Hunter in Legion?
>>339059243
>>339059450
Oh, and trying to churn out expansions on a yearly basis instead of putting realistically 2-3 years into it and having a team to make smaller contents for the current expansion while the larger teams work on the new one.
On the other hand there were people who simply left Blizzard and were pretty good at making the game playable, but that doesn't justify the whole shit that they've done after WoTLK in such a short time.
>>339060282
Right now it's more like they're churning out patches at a yearly basis lmao.
>>339060447
Yep. And that's the problem.
Either they have no idea what to give people, are undermanned, or both.
>>339059480
Ok I get it you'll defend useless spells til the end of time fine w/e if you think enhance shamans should be running around with water shield on more power to you man.
As for game play it only got shitter for the middle of the playerbase (which is sadly the majority), Mythic raiding is better then ever and low level stuff definitely works better.
>paying $15 a month to farm gold
>>339060784
>better than ever
>>339061181
Every time when I see this, I feel sad.
WoW started out quite fun, got better, and after WoTLK it was slowly going shit.
>>339059236
I resubbed to WoW about 3 months ago and played for roughly a month. You're completely right, I quit in 3.2.3 and the game has become terrible.
I don't play WoW.
There's your explanation.
>>339061181
>tfw they decided to stop reporting subscription numbers
L M A O
>>339061435
And there are no signs that it will get better. Only worse in every aspect.
>>339061423
>no strong qt nelf to keep you safe
>>339059698
I'm sorry, it's even worse now because it was an offhand. And casualization? Warlocks were even more casual before Cata and MoP+ in Cata warlocks had more buttons than Wrath and much, much more than TBC and Vanilla.
>TBC Lock
Sbolt and stopcast forever (a bit more if you were affli)
>Cata lock (all warlock specs were pretty much equal in Cata so I will go with demo)
Meta, Dark Soul, Felstorm, Doom, Corruption, Immolate, snapshot DoTs when needed, Soulburn out Fel Hunter, Hand of Gul'dan, Shadow Bolt, use Incinerate if Molten Core procs, at less than 35% HP use Soulfire, and use Nether Protection as your DR when taking damage.
>>339061181
That actually completely fits what I said, mythic raiding is like roughly 10% of the playerbase not the majority and for those people it's shit (content drought attrition notwithstanding).
>>339061423
All of them, honestly
>>339061423
Any
I'm a sad, lonely man
>>339061817
I don't think you played Warlock in TBC, it seems like you don't even know what a spellstone is.
>>339061423
Draenei, Trolls, Night Elves, Blood Elves, Orcs, and an Undead Sylvanas
>>339061857
Mythic raiding is not better than ever, the encounters get cleared a few days after they go live. They're easy as fuck in comparison to WotLK/Cata raids. The reason they're easier is because everyone has less buttons for the devs to involve in the encounters. Utility is rarely considered when designing a boss, it's almost entirely about raw DPS/HPS.
>>339049419
>pandas lose useless abilities like Taunt, ToD, Jab, Nimble Brew, Mana Tea, Stances
When the fuck would I use those in PVE content. With how mana regen is they're practically worthless right now and even more so in Legion. Now the loss of AOE healing is the biggest problem here. I don't agree with the interrupt being lost but I do agree with their own Last Stand and Expel Harm being removed.
>>339062251
>When the fuck would I use those in PVE content
>I do agree with their own Last Stand and Expel Harm being removed
please be a shitposter or a shill. people actually thinking this would kill me inside.
>>339062048
It was a purge and a bit of crit on an offhand, it was outclassed by literally any Karazhan offhand. You would never use it in PvP because the damage loss was too big to using the stone. You can't even swap to it midcombat because you would have to wait a 30 second ICD and, depending on the patch, it would interrupt any spell you were casting and trigger the GCD. If you were ever using Spellstone you were fucked in the head.
And yeah I missed one thing for TBC warlock, life tap. What great fucking gameplay man
>>339062203
How long are people going to trundle this shit out.
Just because serenity raides 9 hours a day on multiple toons for 3+ weeks doesn't mean most mythic raiders do that.
Even borderline exploiting mythic blackhand was one of the hardest bosses for a long long time.
>>339062990
>9 hours a day
Method and Paragon raided for 14 or more every day.
>>339063234
Would you marry and impregnate her?
>>339058324
>>339063460
My point is it took longer to kill bosses in TBC because talent wasn't as concentrated as now, gear was objectively shitter when compared to now and in tbc even the most hardcore guilds weren't raiding 14+ hours a day across multiple alts to speed gear their toons.
Kael didn't take forever to die because blizzard designed him around shamans having a snare, it was because he was objectively over tuned and temest keep gear was badly optimised.
>>339049196
>>339050225
I legitimately feel pity for people who still like and play WoW.
Like, you're about as pathetic as the people who play Second Life now.
>>339063883
>overshit
>>339061423
Posting pandass
>>339066159
>>339066590
How many IPs do you have banned?
>>339066826
No rules have been broken so it's okay
furfags pls go
Post pandas
