>Pharrah
>Soldier 76
>Reinhardt
>Hanzo
>Tracer
>...You
You do want the team to win, right?
>>339032164
Yeah that's why I'll pick Lucio, the superior support
Zenyatta and then we eventually lose because I can't heal enough since I'm more focused on discord orbing people.
But it's okay because no one really says anything.
>>339032537
2 harmony zen when
>>339032537
Zen is a monster. He could really be an offensive char.
His paper-thin robot skin is a bit of a drawback, and I think his healing orb needs to heal for a bit more and last longer than 3s out of LoS, but overall I damn love him.
>>339032164
Pick Roadhog and heal myself.
>>339032164
Mei is essential too. Keeps your teams focus on one side of the board.
>>339032537
Zens fun, sadly hes objectively shit in comparison.
Lucio needs to have his kit not be passive.
Mercy is fine as is.
Zen needs 25 more shield HP and the ability to orb 2 people at once.
>tfw main Hanzo and Tracer
>dominate
How are they bad? A good Tracer should be able to sustain themselves for half of a match or game. A good Hanzo should be able to keep tabs on the enemy team and constantly chip away at their health with the burst arrow.
Most classes are designed like garbage and don't work well with a controller. I'm picking Soldier 76 and you will like it.
>>339033443
>maining a character
>hanzo and tracer
you are fucking loser kill urself
>>339032415
Came to post this, was not disappointed.
>>339032164
I actually play as Mercy because I want my team to win
>>339032702
fag
In a world with robots, apes with glasses and removed asses poses, why is there no ALIEN characters?
I mean, if they became into that world, I'm sure they find some sort of aliens, and also aliens to play in this game too.
McCree.
My team can go fuck themselves, I don't care if we don't win. I'm not supporting these selfish fuckers, mainly, because I'm a selfish fucker myself.
>>339034417
tracer is an alien
>>339034509
You post like you should be playing Reaper.
>Mercy
Why does this moldy Christmas cake make my dick rock hard?
>>339034509
myteamis not important, what is important is what i'm going to do
>>339034651
Because thanks to science she is forever 21
>>339034550
Isn't she bribonga?
>be Mercy
>get sick and tired of teammates not shooting
>take it upon myself to just start capping people
>it works out a lot better than expected
>30 seconds left, politely ask team to group up behind our Reinhardt player before pushing the point
>team spreads out as far and wide as the eye can see, gets cut down by turrets
Sometimes I dont understand human beings
I pick my support based on the map/side, and team composition.
All KotH maps: Lucio.
For control points offense, if I think people are going to separate a lot/the map has a lot of obstructive geography, I'll pick Mercy. Otherwise, Lucio. There are rare times where I'll pick Zenyatta if I feel that the team needs discord orbs/zen damage to clear opponents more than they need the other supports' benefits.
For payload offense, my reasoning is pretty similar, except I'm even more likely to pick Zenyatta pending on our team composition. This is largely because I have an objective to stick to and won't worry so much about my mobility. On hybrid maps, I switch between mindsets as necessary.
On CP defense, I'll play Zenyatta pretty often. I find I get a lot of mileage out of him on Hanamura in particular. Payload defense is the reverse, where I'll pick Mercy more often. Hybrid maps follow the same logic as offense, where the change in game mode dictates my mindset.I'll also pick Symmetra on CP/Hybrid Defense, even if we have no proper healers. Just for fun. I switch on hybrid if we lose the point, however.
I'll also sometimes pick Zenyatta just because I get tired of Mercy and Lucio. He's way more difficult to effectively use, but it feels rewarding when things go well. I'll also AVOID Zenyatta in situations I'd otherwise pick him because of the enemy's team comp: Two snipers is a definite no go, even one tempts me to rethink things if they seem to be skilled. Tracer is also pretty hellish in my experience, she can really make him evaporate pretty easily, and his projectile based weapon isn't the easiest to hit with. If the team isn't able to protect me from Tracers, I definitely won't stick to a Zen pick.
>>339034804
It's funny how bad some people are. I remember a game where I got 4 gold medals as Lucio.
how is Lucio good? his healing is so slow.
>>339035212
>40 hp/s for the whole team, including himself
>slow
He also has a speed boost buff that no one else has, he can attack while healing, wallride to make himself harder to hit, bump people off of maps and has the best ultimate in the game.
Lucio is the strongest character in the game, anon.
>>339035212
It heals all of your teammates that are around you, unlike Zeny or Mercy who have to focus on single targets.
Also you can amp up the healing.
>mercy is boring as fuck and you have to be brain dead to enjoy her
>teleport bitch isn't a support
>Zenyatta is way better offensive and better off a secondary support, can't even touch him when the enemy has a sniperso every match
why is there literally only 1 playable support in the game?
>>339035501
Lucio's ult is great, but Mercy's ultimate is better than Lucio's if only because of how fucking insanely fast it charges. Both serve the purpose of being anti-sweeps, the only difference being that Lucio is preventative while Mercy's is reactive, which is a problem if Mercy dies first.
I'm not that anon you're replying to of course, Lucio is strong as fuck, especially on particular maps and modes where he gets full team exposure very often.
>>339035737
>He doesn't zip around with Mercys wings, healing and damage boosting everybody whenever needed.
>>339034956
>Team sucks so I go pistol Mercy and don't heal anyone
>Get a gold medal for5 eliminations
>Tell them they suck and leave the next round
>You are now receiving an experience penalty
T-thanks...
>>339035780
>Lucio's ult is great, but Mercy's ultimate is better than Lucio's if only because of how fucking insanely fast it charges. Both serve the purpose of being anti-sweeps, the only difference being that Lucio is preventative while Mercy's is reactive, which is a problem if Mercy dies first.
That's true. But Lucio can counter most enemy ults with his own ult and it's a fantastic tool for team pushes. Mercy's ult doesn't really provide that and if she dies before her team does, her ult becomes worthless until the next push. Both are top tier ults but I find Lucio's to be better.
Double 76 baby!
>>339036016
>experience penalty
That is as thing?
>>339035839
no not really
her movement is boring just press button to go to directly too them, lucio is far more fun movement wise seeing some fucker off in the distance low and wall riding to save them feels cool,even if it doesn't do much more then just walking.
and having to sit there and do nothing but be everyone else bitch while they have fun playing a shooter doesn't feel great
i legitimately do not understand how people can play nothing but mercy
>>339032164
Um you can play 76 as semi support.
>>339036020
Both are better at different situations really. Mercy's ult shines when their entire team wastes their ultimates on you (ie. Junkrat, Pharah, and Zarya) and you mass revive everyone and wipe the enemy team since they just blew all of their resources. You can't really do the same thing with Lucio unless you trick the enemy into ulting at the same time you use your ult (good teams just wait it out).
Also, what's up with Lucio's ult animation? It takes forever and I've killed at least 4 Lucios before they could complete it.
FEEL THE BEETS
>>339036236
>i legitimately do not understand how people can play nothing but mercy
I like winning I guess.
Who else /pureskill/ here?
>>339036378
thanks for wasting 40 seconds of my life
>>339036286
>You can't really do the same thing with Lucio unless you trick the enemy into ulting at the same time you use your ult
You just wait for them to use a bunch of ults at the same time and immediately use your own ult to counter the damage. It's the same logic as a Mercy ult but better because they can kill a Mercy before everyone else is dead, whereas Lucio can use the ult and not worry about it afterwards.
>Also, what's up with Lucio's ult animation? It takes forever and I've killed at least 4 Lucios before they could complete it.
It depends on the terrain and at which height you used it. He needs to land on the ground for the barrier to spread, so if he jump from high ground, it will take a long time before it activates.
>>339036378
>healing a Rein with his shield up
retard
>>339033242
(you)
>>339036470
holy shit thats cheap
>>339036646
But he's totally right, anon. Zenyatta needs more survivability and healing potential.
>>339033242
I think Mercy needs more survivability. Maybe more armor replacing her health so she doesn't fucking die in two hits.
>>339036615
>You just wait for them to use a bunch of ults at the same time and immediately use your own ult to counter the damage.
The thing is there's a cast time of like 2 seconds so you have to anticipate it (like I said bait it out). Also, Lucio can be killed during that long cast animation - I do it all the time as Widowmaker.
>He needs to land on the ground for the barrier to spread, so if he jump from high ground,
Didn't know that. Very interesting.
>>339036616
>Not wanting that sweet ult recharge
That Mercy did fine since no one died except for Pharah.
>>339032164
Junkrat so the team can get kills.
>>339036470
So this is why casuals like overwatch.
I get it now, even bad players can get an instant-kill-the-bad-guys weapon in the form of ults
Blizzard really knows how to cater to their primary audience, I give them that.
My favorite part of that webm is the guy in chat congratulating him on a 'gj', for pressing one button.
>pick zarya
>bitches swap classes to be my healbitch
>>339036963
TWO buttons.
First Q to start the ult and then left mouse button to fire it out once you have enough lock ons.
>>339032164
Fuck you 2 Reinhardts. Unstoppable
>>339036378
>low_mmr_mercy_footage.webm
>>339036963
Nah, the gj was after the game ended. It's just a saved highlight.
>>339036470
>no well played spray
>>339036378
Riveting.
>>339037047
My bad. Maybe overwatch takes more skill than I thought?
>>339036865
Yeah, I looked it up and seems like it takes exactly 1 seconds to land if you use it at ground level. And hitting a headshot with Widowmaker on a falling target is not easy anyway. Also don't forget that a good Lucio will stay behind his team and move erraticly to not get shot by a Widow.
>>339037158
Exactly. Now excuse me while I go harass some snipers with my auto aiming lightning gun that tickles
>>339037194
Oh, also you can use it without even having a LoS with the enemy team but having LoS with your own team. The area of it is quite big.
>join server
>everyone's gone Tracer
>enemy team goes full Winston
>their big monkey girth isn't enough to stop our impenetrable glass cannon defense
>>339037158
this is very similar to dota desu, you don't go shouting "lmao what a trash low skill game" when enigma teamwipes you solo with two blackholes? Or earthshaker blinks into you pushing towers with creeps and presses R and you are all dead? This is the same, its highly situational, requires player to know where to position himself, and needs enemies to be braindead as in this case - no reinhardt with shield, nobody even bothered to look around and either snipe him first or run out of line of sight.
>not picking the support who can actually do shit
>>339032415
this
>>339032537
man can they give this guy a teeny bit of aoe on just his harmony orb? or buff his movement speed, or both fuck it
Yeah so I pick zen robo
>>339037373
What did lucio actually do there though? Slightly damage rein with his right click?
>>339037373
>saving a shitter who stood in front of a rein without pressing A/D
he deserved that death.
>>339037484
Pushing the Reinhart to the left meant that his charge ran out before he could hit the wall, which would have instakilled the soldier. This allowed the soldier to survive and kill the Reinhart
>>339032164
>not playing the guy with rollerblades that can ride on walls while shooting people
It's like you hate fun.
Mercy might be worth while if you cut her healing and damage buff down while allowing her shit to fork to 2-3 targets.
The amount of healing she does just isn't worth it for anything but a tank. Lucio's E can top off everything but tanks quickly and is an AoE heal.
Mercy is just a lot of effort for not a lot of benefit.
>>339036963
That only works on retards though. The second you hear what time it is, you run back and get behind cover. Almost every clutch ult can be avoided by simply listening to the audio que.
>>339037373
damn I had to watch that a few times to realize what you did nice
>>339036470
that place is the best for mccree, i got a 6k from there with deadeye
nobody ever looks up
>>339037631
t-thanks
Mercy/Lucio double support is the most fun comp.
>>339033039
Mei is great on Defense, but I find her shit on Offense. A good defensive Mei really fucks up the team with the Ice Walls alone
>>339036824
The way Mercy is played in competitive is she's basically a backup healer. Teams run Lucio as the main healer and Mercy sits back behind a corner somewhere and then flies in and ults when 3 or more team members are down.
That's basically what Mercy is all about is her ult, that's what makes her so powerful.
>people bitching out zen telling him to go mercy or lucio
>not realizing that zen is an offense character in disguise
>>339037562
theyre not soul skaters man
>>339037919
Zen was top tier in closed beta but then they nerfed his HP to shit and nobody touches him now. He just dies too easy.
>>339037914
From my experience, the damage boost is also really handy if you have a Pharah, Widow, Soldier, McRee, or Roadhog.
>>339037984
Yeah her damage boost is great. The main thing about Mercy is you want to heal and damage boost when you can but surviving is above all else the most important thing you can do as Mercy. You want to outlive your team so you can fly in and resurrect them when the time comes.
>>339037980
They didn't nerf his hp at all. The only nerf he received was the line of sight nerf on his orbs which meant that he couldn't just put his Orb of Harmony on a Genji or Tracer to make them really hard to kill.
>>339037919
He needs a buff to his speed.
>>339037919
People fail to realise that zen is a remote healer and has the benefit on hanging back while providing healing.
If I try mercy and get focused without any of my team helping me you can bet your ass I'm playing zen 90% of the time.
>>339037914
Mercy is also completely braindead, the amount of times I just speed boost through a team and attacked on hiding around a corner and all they do is jump.
They just jump about a bit. Fucking Mercys are like Genji, do nothing for almost the entire game, gain an Ult and change the course of an entire match.
>>339032164
I am that 76 99% of the time so i'm fine.
>>339032164
*picks bastion*
>>339037081
>symmetra + Junkrat
Whoa such a skill combo you've got there
>>339038227
>76
>Anotherwords useless until Ult is charged
>>339038279
>76
>useless
The hell are you smoking?
>>339037717
The Greece stage with the pit, see an ult coming and jump into the pit yourself, just wall ride around the inside and then jump back out.
Lucio is almost like a game unto himself, you versus the level.
>get in a team with a bunch of shitters that pick assault characters and get picked off right out of spawn constantly
>literally have to 1v5 for 15 seconds
>still no pressure from any other side of the map
>leave
>"You will recieve a penalty"
Fuck off blizzard
>>339038279
>useless until Ult
You must be the worst shot ever.
Can we talk about how tanks are consistently the worst players?
>>339038213
Let's not oversell the other classes. None of them require that much intelligence to play.
>>339038470
That's a funny way of spelling "snipers".
>>339036171
Yeah, for some reason you aren't allowed to leave a game in progress and receive -75% XP for like 6 games or so after you left.
So yeah, if your team is literally braindead, enjoy being stuck with them for 15 minutes.
>>339038565
Do you know when it's okay to leave so that your get experience and don't receive the penalty? When defeat/victory shows up?
>>339036963
Yeahh, I think all ultimates need a blanket 90% nerf for the game to not be super casual.
>>339038635
Safest bet is during results, I don't remember if PotG is before or after the cutoff
It's too late once you get to team assembly, I've heard.
>>339038543
I'm not, some do require you to look and move a bit. Mercy requires neither.
Theres actually nothing more satisfying that focusing a Mercy main until they change class. Its only happened twice so far though because most of them can't play anything else. Yes they are that bad.
>>339036236
>i legitimately do not understand how people can play nothing but mercy
the pistol is fun as fuck
>>339038803
>not dpsing as Mercy
sounds like you're just shit at the game and don't understand it at all m8
>anon will never buy you the game
>you will never be his faithful support to repay the debt
>Play Lucio
>Everyone goes lone wolf
>Some fucking Mcree goes "omfg we need a healer bad"
Playing pubs is suffering.
>really want to play Zenyatta
>Widowmaker is his hard counter
>nearly every team has a Widowmaker because not only is she literally a sniperfaggot with wallhacks, she's one of the more marketed characters too
>basically impossible to play Zenyatta decently if a Widowmaker is on the enemy team, which is basically all the time
>enemy team finally for once does not have a Widowmaker
>pic related
>>339038901
Yes and Dva does more damage with her pistol than her mech that does not mean you run straight into fire in order to jump out of it.
>>339038470
You mean Hanzo and Widowmaker?
>have a pharah complaining about how she cant kill mccree because "HE'S JUST TOO ACCURATE HES SO OP ITS NOT EVEN FAIR THESE GUYS ARE TOO GOOD"
>21-7 as lucio with 4 gold medals
torbjorn 4 lyfe
>>339039210
McCree is easy to kill as phara as long as you keep your distance
>>339038901
I've seen one Mercy pull out her pistol and fire at me when I focused in. You might do it quite regularly and help out people when they actually need it, adding DPS to the team when they don't need you.
Every other Mercy is joined to their target at the hip and they do nothing but jump about with the beam going when they get attacked. Maybe it just takes time until they actually realise they can fight back quite well.
Like they don't even fucking melee.
>>339039317
>>339038901
Dropping the beam is also a good way of getting your butt-buddy to turn the fuck around and protect you.
>>339039316
Everything is easy to kill as Pharah you can fucking fly and have infinite missiles, next to no self damage and a massive splash radius.
>>339039395
The splash radius is tiny, the only way to actually kill McCree and other characters who can fight back is direct hits. What makes him easy to hit is he is kind of slow and doesn't have much extra mobility
how do we fix Symetra?
>>339032415
Sure if you have ad/hd.
>Zenyatta has 2 Orbs and can use them as he wills, going for the traditional 1 Harmony and 1 Discord, 2 Harmony, or 2 Discord
>Both orbs may be placed on a single target for 150% of the effect
>Mercy's healing and damage buff last a second or so after the stream is broken, in a weaker state, allowing her to effect 2 nearby team-mates at once if she doubles down, or give both minor buffs to a single target
>Lucio's primary fire gains a very slight buff
Y/N
>>339039062
i feel you bro, he is in my top 3 most played.
>dat E+2xLMB
i think 25 more hp or a little speed boost would make him more playable
>>339039668
Increase her shielding, let her throw laser caltrops on the ground.
>>339039317
To be fair, I forget that melee is a thing in general when I play any class.
If you have time to pull out your pistol as Mercy it means either
a) Your team is doing well enough that it doesn't need the direct healing and you should swap to a better, more versatile class like Lucio.
or
b) Your entire team is dead and you should swap to a better, more useful class to stop them dying, like Lucio.
>>339032415
I honestly don't understand why anyone plays Mercy. Lucio is not only the superior healer thanks to his AoE, but he's WAAAAAY more fun to play. Skating around on walls, a gun that can actually get some decent kill streaks going while you heal people, GOTTA GO FAST MODE!
Lucio is one of the most enjoyable characters in the entire game.
>>339032164
I like playing Mercy but I'm getting tired of being forced to play nothing but her because teams are full of anything but support characters.
At least we're winning most of the time.
>>339039668
Aside from the shields being useless shes is no real need of any fixing at all. Its just that no one knows how to use the turrets well, they cluster them all together and they get taken out easily in one grenades or a shotgun blast.
You spread them out, you let the team know where they are and you use distraction and the turrets with the team to outright murder teams.
Because shes so under used most of the teams I play against just don't know how to respond to the turrets, and myself as a Sym beaming them. You have to constantly replace the turrets though and get the tele up asap by using the big balls. Its even better when they have a Rein becuase the ball goes through shields.
and the beam goes through Genji deflects.
>>339032164
I'd pick Tracer. Our team would win by having more skill than the other team. That's what matters. Don't blame anyone else if you lose, it just comes down to player skill, not character choice, not 'co-operation', not camping, just pure skill.
>>339039906
pistol has uses but mainly when standing behind a shield. I've killed multiple turrets when I've only had a Rein with me.
>>339039939
Mercy is really only good when there is one character who must absolutely must not die for whatever reason. Like, a Lucio using crossfade to speed up a payload for example. Or a DVA/Reinhardt/Winston is trying to trigger Overtime and they need to stall for as long as possible.
>>339039809
That 25 makes so much of a difference. Symmetra or Torb being on the team basically stops Widowmaker being nearly as much of an annoyance to you if you can get armor from them.
It's absurd how much difference literally just ONE more health point would make.
>>339034417
Reaper's Mexican
>>339036470
you're pretty good
>>339040442
...Is he? I thought he was African American.
>>339038357
the pit on ilios is great, you can do a similar thing on one of the lijiang tower CPs which is a closed kinda circular room
>>339038635
When the "Leave Game" button is there on the upper right, I think it's right after PotG.
Which tank is the best?
>>339040595
Right Clicking from that far away at the start.
Come on to fuck.
>>339039939
I dunno I guess its because mercy can rez your whole fucking team?
>>339041026
You don't need to rez your entire team if you're playing Lucio, because your team will very rarely wipe if your team knows what they're doing.
>>339041094
>If your team knows what they are doing
>>339040951
Ren is the best for blocking. Zarya is the best for support and melting faces at high energy, shes also smaller than the rest so is less of a target, Winston is good for harassment and assassination and indefinite blocking, Roadhog is amazing for picks, killing in general and absorbing stupid amounts of damage.
Dva is good for fuck all that the other tanks all can't do better. Her skills are all on too long cool downs, the mech does shit damage and she spends most of the game running away from people.
Usually as a Lucio is am wary of all the tanks apart from Dva who I know I can out heal and kill easily while just speed boosting away from her shit.
>>339040595
Do McCree players even know left-click exists?
Torbjorn should be able to heal D.va with his hammer.
>>339041449
I don't think people should get encouragement to play either of those two useless retards
>Defense
>team sucks shit in spite of us having a healer
>switch to Tracer and sneak around, cutting up their healers and stickying their tanks
>Win every time
I'm very surprised nobody tries Tracer on Defense.
Nothing more frustrating when the whole team is to autistic to get a single point
>>339041925
>420 call of duty kids sticking to McCree, Hanzo, and Widowmaker all game though Pharahs and Junkrats are needed
>Reinhardts dropping their shields to charge balls deep into enemy territory where the Torbjorns are and die instantaneously
>"Friendly" Meis only ever block you and never shit like Soldier's auto-aim or McCree's high noon or anything like that
Staying back and watching these people as a support player makes me feel like Jane Goodall among the fucking chimpanzees
>>339041581
>Torbjorn
>useless
>>339042186
>Defend
>struggling to contest the payload and fend off the enemy as they're super close, possibly even in overtime
>2 people on your team who are Widowmaker or Hanzo are still stood at the back taking potshots, nowhere near the payload
>>339037562
oh shit i forgot about this movie
Just play Zenyatta, the support hero for people who don't play supports.
>>339040951
Reinhardt is my favorite, but I tend to go d.va if there's already one on the team. She's basically an oversized tracer in the way she plays, I like it.
glad I got the valkyrie skin for mercy, now i don't mind playing support.
>>339038907
>you will never be your team's cumdump for an entire night
>they will never pass you around the room, fucking your face
>you will never swallow their spunk and have them pat your headand call you a good girl
>>339040951
Why the fuck is that adorable
You cant make fatties cute you piece of shit
>>339032164
The only support I play is Symmetra because I fucking hate being a healbitch.
>>339032164
I do play support
If you don't thank, i don't heal
>>339043997
Do you thank your DPS for doing damage?
>>339036470
Nice aim
>>339032164
Pick Junkrat & nade spam because fuck everything
OR pick Mei & harass the shit out of them. Especially if it's arcade mode where her ultimate is up nonstop
>>339044085
No because that's his job
>no revolver ocelot skin for McCree
How are they getting away with this?
>>339044452
Guess what your job is.
>>339038213
>and all they do is jump.
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
>>339039939
I disagree. Mercy is miles more fun to play as since you have to put effort into healing your team while not getting killed.
Lucio takes literally takes no effort to heal teammates, and can survive ages since his healing abilities affect himself.
However, Lucio is definitely the better choice overall.
I refuse to run support if no one else decides to after some piss poor experiences as support that completely ruined it for me.
>join an already commencing game
>the team doesn't have any healers, instead thought it would be smart to have two fucking reapers
>begrudgingly go Lucio
>the team doesn't group up around the healer, instead either rushing in way ahead of me one by one or getting killed elsewhere
>the Roadhog takes medkits while I am healing him despite having a support with him and a self-heal ready, medkits I could have used
I refuse to sacrifice my game experience for idiots.
Honestly think they should buff Mercy a little bit. Give her 25-50 HP but nerf the rate at which she gets an ultimate, because at this rate if there's a Roadhog on the map I'm getting five to six ults every game.
>>339043895
Don't make me sad anon, that sounds wonderful
>>339039939
>I honestly don't understand why anyone plays Mercy
I just resurrected 5 of my teammates at the objective last game, which won us the game. Mercy have a stronger heal and can actually boost the damage of your carries.
>>339037081
>tfw I went up against a dual Reinhardt team because they were butthurt that I was dunking on them on Winston
>still shit on both Reinhardts with superior Winston tanking
>>339044492
I don't have to play support you dongus. Tank should feel privileged I'm even healing them
>all but one person chooses their class
>the last person goes a copy of an already chosen class instead of the needed role
Why are people stupid enough to do this so often? And it's usually not even a class where having two could actually be viable.
>>339044783
If anyone needs a buff its zenyatta
>>339044962
They don't have to play DPS, you should feel privileged they're even killing stuff for you. Stop wasting that player slot and making your team lose, retard.
>>339044783
Mercy isn't the one(s) in need of buffing. Zeny should have 25 more shield and Symmetra should have longer range on her beam.
>>339045058
Teams cant win without a healer, fact
>>339045147
Anyone else who isn't a lazy fuck could've picked a healer, including one that heals automatically. Stop being a liability. This is coming from someone who mains Mercy
(8 hours so far, 16 minutes of Widow).
>>339045128
What I think Zenyatta needs is his 200 total HP back and the ability to throw out multiple harmony orbs that last longer. At the most three seems fair. Right now he's more of a glass cannon than a support.
>>339032164
Soldier can heal people, I'll pick Reaper.
So apparently I've used Reinhardt the most, even though there are characters I enjoy more. Thanks to guys who never pick a tank even if it means winning or losing.
>>339039395
Pharah has self damage though.
>>339045513
Yeah, join the club. The amount of times I've had to play mercy or lucio instead of just about anything else is staggering. I just want to win and play something that's not support, is that too much to ask?
>>339032164
play widowmaker and fail terribly at it
>>339036470
Literally middle of the night
>It's high noon.
>>339040595
I've been in the shoes of that Reinhardt.
Walking ahead shield up not giving any fucks, while team gets wiped behind.
>>339044908
i hate this meme
outside of ults and a few specific weapons/abilities, its far more useful to use mercy's gun if possible
>>339040978
not gonna miss at that range with that target
>>339041316
funny enough I was holding back the enemy team with my LMB at that point
>>339032164
What hero's have become borderline essential?
>Lucio
>Mei
>Reinhardt
>Junkrat
Have these 4 and you're almost guaranteed a win
>>339034956
Getting 5 golds on Ilios is easy. Environment kills all day
>play Renihardt
>squishies constantly run ahead and in front of my shield
>play support
>arrive at Reinhardt and heal
>he promptly charges into the enemy team, misses all 5 of them, slams into a wall and gets killed in under a second
>play with friends>they suck at their Widow/Pharah/Mei game and refuse to every play tank or support
>>339041316
The left click sucks since people cried in the beta about it and got its accuracy nerfed. Because it's already not perfectly accurate right click will always be more consistent in getting kills.
>>339032415
This is the only correct answer
>>339036470
What the fuck. He didn't even aim the gun. What kind of horseshit game is this?
>>339048556
he literally says
>well, it's high noon somewhere
I wreck shit with Soldier 76%. Just the last game I played I had 27 eliminations 4 deaths and got mvp for being on fire 79% of the match. YOu're a fucking dipshit, op
Are you guys able to win more than 50% of your games ?
Feel like I always the only one to push the payload or playing the objective
>>339048097
>>339045513
Soon ranked mode will be out and that may help people pick winning characters.But really it will just make them rage and pick genji anyways.
>>339044962
Don't even pretend you're not doing it because you're a little sissy who loves it. You need a big strong tank to take charge because you'll never have the balls to do it yourself. It's your lot in life to be the the little sissy healer servicing superior specimen tanks.
I have a lot of fun playing Mercy and often pick her willingly before anyone else has picked, so no trouble here.
Lucio is a better support but I find him way less fun to play.
>>339038360
you must be stupid to leave game, if your team is bad game dosnt last more than 5 min and if you telling me you cant try for 5 min you are autistic.
>>339052169
How's ranked supposed to work? Is it draft or at least perma pick?
>>339051935
>>339048556
>>339044220
>>339040595
>>339037706
>>339037125
>>339036963
>>339036718
You fools are obviously poorfags who never even played the game. Here's a thing you probably won't even understand, you DO need to be skillful to go around the map and take a pin-point perfect position to pull off something magnificent as this. Coming from a Mccree player, it's amazing how the person was skillful enough to round them up before EVEN dying. Be jaelous as much as you want, you actually do need skill not to die and backdoor them like the guy from webm have.
I applaud to you, person from webm. Don't let the haters get you down for being skillful at Mccree.
>>339052378
If Blizzard is smart it will be draft, perma pick, and no double characters on a team.
>>339045513
I've played Pharah the most even though she's not my favorite because she is almost always useful and people are still spamming Bastion/Trob.
I don't know where you're playing games where there isn't a Reinhardt. People love that fucker, someone pretty much instalocks him in almost every game unless they go Winston.
>>339039395
>infinite missiles
You have to reload after 6 and it takes 3-4 to kill players at full health.
Pharah's true strength lies in her E ability which is a guaranteed kill against any non-flying hero next to a ledge.
>>339041026
>D.va drops a good NERF THIS at the cap, right on top of practically everyone
>everyone scattering
MERCY
>fly away
>fly back
>rez everyone
LUCIO
>DROP THE BEAT
>everyone's alive
>>339048680
But the second you slow down to make sure they are safe they run way ahead of you and die.
>>339036470
I had a highlight once where I got 4 kills with High Noon, out-dueled another McCree, and shit on a Bastion who was sitting on the point in Africa. Love playing this faggot.
I wasn't streaming and it was late so I forgot to save it, hate that there's no in-game way to save Highlights and that they disappear at the end of every session, the fuck is the point of having things like highlight intro animations if you can't easily save a collection and them to friends. You're just praying for POTG all the time.
>sit on the cart as Bastion
>Reinhardt jumps on and uses his shield
>"cool, Rein can protect me while I prevent people from stopping the cart"
>he moves his shield away from me
Some people just can't grasp basic strategy, it's really annoying when this kind of thing happens.
>>339045128
>Buff Symmetra's beam
IT'S WAY TOO FUCKING POWERFUL, HELL NO
>>339052378
>>339052584
>perma pick
The entire time they've been promoting this game all they talk about is how the game is designed around constantly trying to switch your characters into more favorable matchups. I doubt they would want to have everyone be locked into shit the entire game, that would just make some games a complete waste from character select.
>>339053149
Yo-ho-ho she took a bite of gum-gum
>>339052378
>>339053328
The ideal solution would be locking in a character at the start and allowing one change per player during the match (so long as that hero isn't already being used on the team).
Promoting mid-match counter-picks while keeping the game balanced.
>>339032164
>tracer
>winning anything
>>339053149
SHE
Yea, I'll switch to Mercy if my team needs me to.
>>339032415
2 Lucio > Lucio + Mercy > Mercy + Mercy > Mercy > Lucio
Lucio just doesn't heal quickly enough by himself really. He's only good for the speed boost, while Mercy has the damage amp.
>genji
>Reinhardt
>Hanzo
>D.Va
>>339053645
A top tier Tracer will completely disrupt a team (defense or offense) trying to get to the point. They can sometimes lock down games by themselves by making every team fight like 4v5 or 3v5.
>pick a duplicate hero that does well in pairs
>the guy who picked it first repicks
fine then you fuckin beta not like I wanted to leverage your advantage or anything
>>339032164
>play Lucio a few games
>whole team always pick DPS only
Get fucked, I'm not playing support again
>enjoy playing support
>join a game
>there's already a Mercy, Lucio and Reinhardt
>don't know what to do
>>339054167
Like?
Beside 2 lucio , it never happens.
>>339054449
>things that never happened
>>339054449
I always pick Zayra in that case, chances that someone already picked her are basically 0%
>>339054534
It's rare but it happens. If the supports are filled I usually go Pharah. I'm getting alright and actually get cards at the ends of matches now.
>>339054534
It does happen occasionally. I've been able to play 3 whole games as Pharah because people already picked tanks and healers.
>>339054167
>Guy picks symmetra
>pick zenyatta to complement
>he repicks reaper
my fucking bones
>>339033242
>ability to orb 2 people at once
>wanting a healer that can drop you in 4 seconds to also passively put out nearly as much healing as a fucking mercy
fuck it, let's give him Tracer infinite teleports and make Bastion mobile while in turret form, if we're throwing out shitty ideas
>Tracer
>Bad
You just dont know how to Play her scrub
>>339054630
>>339054648
I generally want to just play Pharah.
When I have to heal though at least I have Mercy and can still fly about a bit.
>>339032415
first post best post
>>339054501
>it never happens
except it happens all of the time?
What kind of dumpster MMR bracket are you in
Tracer, Winston, D.va, Junkrat, Torb, and Soldier are all godlike in pairs
>>339054878
>tfw you get a non retarded Reinhardt who shields you while you ult
>>339040645
does Gabriel Reyes sound african to you?
>>339055008
As much as you want to fly and be a cool guy, I feel like Pharah just standing behind Reinhardt for a bit is extremely underutilized.
>>339040442
Mexican descent*
He's from Los Angeles
>>339040595
Epic roll after your reload
>>339055035
You say that as if there aren't blacks with spanish names.
>>339055183
Yeah people tend to use flying as her default position instead of using it situationally. Then they get picked out of the sky by widowmaker.
I do wish she wasn't made of paper though.
>Lose 2 payload checkpoints in the span of a minute and a half
>Nope the fuck outta there
Anybody else? I refuse to play with solo queue shitters
>>339032164
No I want to have fun so I'll pick Genji because I'm tired of playing Mercy and Lucio.
Instalock Tracer and Reaper pickers are annoying but nowhere as annoying as fucking Widowmakers.
Honestly it feels like when Widowmaker is on my team, she never does shit and when she'son the other time she gets 25 eliminations.
>>339053579
Fuck that, no. Both teams need complete freedom to counterpick eachother's compositions, especially considering different compositions will be ideal at different points on the same fucking map/match, not even taking into consideration the enemy team's pick.
And as >>339054921 pointed out, only allowing one of each hero on a team is fucktarded. Double winston can stonewall a point for as long as their barriers last and still escape and survive to apply pressure. Double tracer can keep a king of the hill OT running for-fucking-ever until your team regroups to make another push.
>>339055502
Chill out dude losing is no big deal.
Plus leaving payload because you lost two points quickly is braindead retarded. Those games constantly come down to the wire because the final point is the hardest to get.
>>339034804
>Objective time 31 seconds
>Gold
Please don't tell me that was a payload map.
>>339036470
>>339040595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJPEeizw-0U
>>339055406
As long as you know where the characters that are threatening to you are before you get airborne, your concussion rocket is off cooldown, and you're a decent shot with the rocket launcher, you should have the situation under control. After all that you just need to make sure you aren't too close to any Soldiers or McRees.
>>339055406
The thing that sucks about Pharah is that she's vulnerable to basically everything. She's vulnerable to low damage, high rof weapons like Tracer because no armour, vulnerable to "sniper" characters due to being slow and an obvious target, vulnerable to aimbot turret chip damage because no regen etc. She doesn't have the "whoops I fucked up" undo button that a lot of characters do and her "escape" ability is also her main offensive ability and the only thing that really gives her a reason to be used over somebody like Widowmaker (the ability to jump above cover, pop someone who thinks they have cover and then come back down).
>>339036236
Half the fun should be in his superior mobility. I saw how some people move around as him and know that will never be me so why would I choose a guy I can't be completely good at?
However, as Mercy my movement options are only as good as my teammates and if I can't see you I am pretty much fucked.
I don't really like Lucio as a character but that one line he has when you wub someone is so perfect.
>push off
>>339054921
>2 torb
>2 dva
The rest are good in pairs, but these are not.
A dva alone is already a bit of a slot waste. 2 dva is just throwing the match.
Torb is decent by himself, but is countered by junkrat, pharah, widow, and 76. Double torb just gets countered by a single one of those as well.
>>339055406
I just hate that her rockets seem to have so little splash. I know you're literally right around the corner faggot McCree, my rocket should at least splash you a little.
