About to play this. Anything I should know?
dont
martial arts is the best skill, followed closely by stealth. you can use martial arts effectively against all but one boss.
>>339025701
Pistols and Tech Aptitude are the best skills trees in the game to max. Hands down. Opens up the most options, makes getting good outcomes much easier and is the most effective in terms of taking out bosses and enemies.
>>339025821
Wrong. Tech Aptitude and Pistols are the best, no contest.
Without high TA it's actually impossible to get the best outcomes.
You don't need to tag either stealth or martial arts to get some usage out of it.
How close is this to Archer game?
>>339025921
pistols are for babbies, at least use assault rifles. why is technical aptitude the only way to get the "best outcomes"? there are no best outcomes, there are like 25 different endings.
Stick to Martial Arts and Pistols, don't worry about stealth, and if it's hostile, kill it.
>>339025701
Just play the fucking game however you want and put points into at least 1 combat skill because there are unskippable boss fights.
Stealth and pistols are broken as shit, don't go to Moscow first or you'll have a very tough boss fight, always be angry when talking to hot german chick, turn up the radio.
>>339026165
It's all right to admit you don't know shit, but don't go recommending bullshit to people. Moron.
>>339025701
learn martial arts, take shit from NO ONE. your characters outcome may depend on it.
>>339026165
pistols can be OP as f.
Especially that skill where you can crit hit with perfect accuracy while time is stopped.
Assault rifle's skill is almost completely useless
Is it better with controller or kb/mouse?
>>339025701
play it on console.
>>339025821
>you can use martial arts effectively against all but one boss.
I took down Bray Bray in 30 seconds with nothing but CQC, git fucking gud.
>>339025921
>Without high TA it's actually impossible to get the best outcomes.
Are you retarded?
>>339029665
Controller
>>339025821
>you can use martial arts effectively against all but one boss.
Good luck using Melee onDarcy and whoever the final boss is
>>339028605
i absolutely guarantee you i've played through this game more times than you have. now do you want to explain why technical aptitude is the only way to get good endings or not? the skill that lets you improve your weapons and armor? what exactly does that have to do with the outcome of the game?
>>339025770
This tbqh famalam
>>339029970
there's a sniper rifle in Darcy's boss area. the final boss is easy, so long as you take an assault rifle with you. you don't even need to level up the skill at all, just hunker down behind that pillar and fire away.
>>339025701
>anything I should know
TURRNNNNN UP
THE RADIOOOOO
>>339025701
It's a game with a few good features drowning in a sea of mediocrity and shit.
Can you ignore the garbage long enough to find the gold nuggets? Then maybe you'll enjoy it.
>>339029853
30 seconds? you definitely weren't playing on hard. he's supposed to switch to his knife automatically when you attack him with melee.
>>339025701
Follow this skill guide andTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN UP! THE RADIO!
>>339030223
What if I don't want to be stealthy?
>>339025701
the only game that did choices right.
ok.
but is itgud?
>>339030058
That's not Melee anon
>>339030223
>Sabotage is bad
Get that shit out of here
>>339030272
Then follow this guide
>>339030313
It's buggy and glitchy, but it's fun
Which AP girl would you fug?
>>339030346
I want to be raped by Sie.
>>339030340
>It's buggy
It is not buggy. It is unfinished and a shit port.
>>339030346
All of themEven the whores on Lazo's boat and at Brayko's mansion
>>339030431
Okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>339030346
scarlet. i would goaround the world and be her spotter for assassinations
>>339030431
unfinished sure, but port wise it ran fine. i played it a few months ago and it defaulted to high res and set everything to high. the only bad things is some nutty motion blur and some folks might not like the sharpen filter the game uses. it never crashed for me once.
>>339030340
the point is you can beat the game without putting a single point into a gun skill. martial arts is the fastest way to take down Deng and Marburg.
>>339025701
EVEN IF YOU'RE A STEALTH PACIFIST, ALWAYS CARRY LOTS OF LETHAL AMMO. The game makes a distinction between lethal vs non-lethal, but bosses get plot armor for their fights. Don't worry about taking them down non-lethally, fill 'em full of lead first, then choose whether or not you want to kill them in the following cutscene.
>>339030070
>>339030223
>have zero ammo for the fight
>raging for hours
>keep playing because it's all too surreal
So if you go full stealth and full martial arts can you just Big Boss fucking everyone into submission?
>>339030713
>boss literally does a line of coke that makes him fucking invincible
stealth, sabotage, pistol
thats all
>>339030223
Shotgun + melee is a good strat
>>339030637
>martial arts is the fastest way to take down Deng and Marburg
>What is Chain Shot
>>339030636
>port wise it ran fine
The hacking, lockpicking and camera controls with KB+M are anything but fine.
>>339030637
>he doesnt end fights as soon as they start with max pistol chain shot charge shots
>All these people arguing about skills
>The only one that is actually useless is Submachine guns and even they are usable if you know what you're doing
Despite being horribly unbalanced with the pistols being so good, nothing in the game is outright bad.
>>339030713
>Doing a stealth run
>Make my way to Russia
>FuckingDarvo
>Can't kill him
>Gotta keep turning up the radio
His boss fight annoyed the shit out of him. At least i had managed to find a way to bug the fight and he wouldn't call his lackeys.
>>339030735
some soldiers have decent block, but the best is running around doing flying tiger knees to knock people on their ass then finishing them with a foot stomp. but if you want you can sneak and do choke out takedowns.
>>339030864
>Nigga can't buy a $15 controller
Don't blame the game that you're poor or don't have any friends who will let you borrow a controller
>>339030637
>let's play a shooter and don't use any guns!
That doesn't sound fun
>>339030818
chain shot is a skill for babies who don't seem to care about getting any enjoyment at all out of the game and the entire pistol skill tree should be completely ignored if you want to have any kind of fun.
>>339030941
We weren't talking about what is more fun we were talking about what is that fastest way to kill bosses
I tried playing this game like 3 times now over a few years and every time I get bored half-way into the first mission
>>339025701
Mediocre gameplay, broken balance, awesome story and every choice you make IS relevant. The replayability is high as fuck, and the gameplay isn't so bad that you'll want to quit as soon as you can.
>>339025701
Turn it up.
>>339030931
it's not a shooter, it's a spy RPG with guns in it.
Always choose the most appropriate dialogue options.aka be an aggressive cunt for best results
>>339030864
all you do click the "clips" at the bottom for hacking doors and computer hacking your kb movement keys moves the left number box and mouse moves the right number box. i don't get why you and so many other people found this shit so hard, hacking is so piss easy. if it bothers you that much that's what emps are for.
>>339030981
and martial arts is the fastest way to kill bosses when you elect not to use the broken skill for babies that makes the game less fun.
>>339025701
I honestly wanted to like it, but the dated graphics and clunky gameplay left me unable to force myself to continue playing the game after the first section
>>339031030
Oh yeah and if you really want to hate the protagonist always choose the "suave" options because the VA always sounds like a slimy piece of shit
>>339031093
how would you fight the coked up boss with melee only?
>>339031030
But he's such a nice guy and so helpful when you're nice with him.
>>339031148
>implying that's not the best part of the game
>>339030941
>>339031093
>You can only enjoy the game by playing it the way I played it!
Using bullet time to get sweet headshots that kill bosses in no time at all is way more fun to me than mashing the melee button.
>>339031175
Yeah butif you headslam him, he calls the cops which results in the US military being around the consulate, which lets you walk right in the front door since you're American.
>>339026165
Are you retarded?
Pistols is the best path in the game thanks to the headshot crit modifier, chain headshot, and brilliance.
You can basically dump 12 headshots from behind cover at a boss within 1 second - that's enough to kill everything even on the hardest difficulty.
>>339031159
if you're doing a martial arts playthrough you should go through Taipei first, because Deng is the easiest boss fight and Steven Heck will spike Brayko's cocaine so every time he takes a hit his health depletes.
Will I miss out on sexy time if I'm always an asshole in this game?
>>339031030
Pic related
>>339031093
Okay but that's not what we were talking about
>>339031159
Spike the Cocaine
>>339031175
Except thathe's the Halbech contact in Moscow and lies to you that it's Brayko
>>339031251
And since the guards are stronger if you befriend them they are stronger when fighting with you
>>339031291
One of the girls enjoys it when you are agressive
>>339026165
>pistols are for babbies
So the best weapon is for babbies while the "manly" people use the worst ones?
>why is technical aptitude the only way to get the "best outcomes"? there are no best outcomes, there are like 25 different endings
Because there IS shit the requires a set amount of TA to unlock certain options. For example there is one objective where you can either choose to save albatross or go with the main objective (one or the other, you can't do both).
However with high enough TA the game unlocks a third option that DOES allow you to do both.
This is not the only instance of this either.
Also higher TA gives you more options and alternate scenes (like either you or Maya can hack something).
If you actually don't know shit about the game then DON'T open your mouth to try and correct people when you're fucking wrong.
>>339029970
>Are you retarded?
Are you? Silly me, of course you are. See above.
>>339031251
Aren't you a wanted fugitive though?
is alpha protocol the only game with dialogue wheel done right?
>>339031251
>>339031354
Fuuuuck, I didn't know that. The very first time I was nice to him and ever since I always felt bad when I tried to beat him up and reloaded. This game man.
>>339031269
and that's why i said it was for babies. if you're good at this game and you really don't want to use melee, SMGs or ARs should be more than powerful enough to finish off bosses handidly.
>>339031365
Wanted by a super secret organization. Most chumps don't know you.
>they didn't sex all the womenand Peck
wew casuls
>>339031365
A wanted fugitive of an organization that shouldn't exist. If the authorities knew about what you did then they'd find out about Alpha Protocol.
Martial arts
Pistols
Stealth
>>339031402
>You're a baby for playing smart
Why not just play through the game with no upgrades and fists only?
Baby.
>>339031367
>dialogue wheel done right
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a dialogue wheel.
The wheel is just an alternate way of selecting text.
can i fug girls in this game?
>>339031360
there are multiple ways to save albatross and infilitrate G22 during the Taipei mission. if you don't know about them then YOU are the one who is fucking wrong. make no mistake i have played through this game more than everyone in this thread combined and i am probably the only person in the world who actually likes it.
>>339031496
this game is basically James Bond
>>339031367
the wheel is easy to do, its actually having choices that matter that nobody except this game got right.
Sell all your info to scarlet.
Dont kill mister dindunuffin terrorist
>>339031496
ye
you can even have aradiothreesome
>>339031175
Yeah but how often do you get to do this in a game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJaGSV75y0
Only video I could immediately find with that scene
>>339031478
>glass him.jpg
>shove forcefully.jpg
>>339025701
If you activate stealth during Konstantin Brayko's sequence where he summons extra enemies, no enemies show up.
>>339031360
>Not knowing there are more ways you can get both Albatross/SIE and the main objective
>If you actually don't know shit about the game then DON'T open your mouth to try and correct people when you're fucking wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
>>339031496
All except one.
Anons, let's agree that submachine guns are shit no matter what your build.
>>339031647
>be a spy
>use submachine guns
it doesn't even compute
>>339031527
I like it, but it's no more than a 7/10 for me.
The entire time I couldn't shake the feeling that I was playing a beta test.
>>339031647
Their easily the worst skill in the game but you can still play through the whole game with themtrust me I did it, it's boring as fuck
>>339025701
>Anything I should know?
If you want to unlock all the guns and armor quicker, you should do the starting missions in each area (rome, taipay, moscow) to unlock the arms dealers before you move on to the rest of the missions. Mosscow is where the good shit is unlocked. Side with Albatross to buy the motorcross stealth suit and best pistol, then pick the big tits girl with a machine gun in the embassy mission to unlock the best assualt rifles and combat armor.
SMGs are shit
>>339030804
No, it's actually redundancy to the max.
>>339031030
>>339031148
I remember reading a rumor that if you always spoke professionally but then tried to crack a joke, there was a separate set of VA lines than if you always made jokes. Instead of sounding suave, the jokes would sound forced.
This game had so much potential. It's a shame the game's ending had to be rushed.
>>339031360
>he doesn't know about Veteran playthroughs
Technical Aptitude doesn't do jack shit other than get you more money and make the mini games easier
>>339031527
>there are multiple ways to save albatross and infilitrate G22 during the Taipei mission. if you don't know about them then YOU are the one who is fucking wrong. make no mistake i have played through this game more than everyone in this thread combined
HUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR
Fucking mouthbreathing retard. I wasn't even talking about Taipei.
>i am probably the only person in the world who actually likes it.
Holy fuck, this massively autistic delusion.
>>339031647
high velocity ammo bruh.
>>339031758
This game is insanely deep. Like if you're pro the whole time, but act like an ass to Marburg, he'll know you're faking it just to mess with him.
>>339031758
If you're always professional but rarely go sarcastic, he sounds like Steven Wright or someone similar. Just more of a douche.
>when you first meet heck he is getting ready to force feed someone dry cleaning chemicals
>"hey you want me to get a funnel it'll go down easier"
>>339031367
The only problem with the dialogue system in Alpha Protocol is that in some cases you have no time at all to pick a stance. As soon as a person stops talking, you have to have chosen how you want to respond. It's impossible to read into where you want the convesation to go if you need chose a stance a milisecond before someone stops talking.
>>339031838
conveniently not highlighting the three other methods of getting same outcome.
Can I help you?
>>339031838
Wow look at that, TA is the only way to get both... Oh wait.
And again I ask https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
>>339031579
>>glass him.jpg
Only a complete moron would mistake that for giving him a friendly drink.
Besides, it has nothing to do with the dialogue wheel at all.
>>339031623
>>339031779
see >>339031838
You fucking ape.
>>339031928
Y-Yeah, I just want ice cream.
>>339031903
I find this really interesting, you know you'll always have to pick a position toward someone, I like being pressured instead of standing in front of him waiting for me to think about everything
who was in charge of designing Alpha Protocol?
it's so deep and well-written yet gameplay is absolute fucking bullshit, plus traditional Sega bug parage
You can walk away with the world being yours if you play your cards right.
If not, kill them all Michael, every last one.
>>339031928
>[draw gun]
>[Draw Gun]
>[DRAW GUN]
That was a great dialogue sequence, really played with your expectations.
>That last bit near the end if you've resisted shooting him
>"Oh, one more thing..."
>OH SHIT HE'S GRABBING A GUN>"Gelato?"
>>339032076
obsidian.
>>339031579
>People still think to glass someone means give him a drink.
I'm not even a native english speaker and the first time I saw that I knew.
>>339031060
>clip
>>339031925
>>339031980
>veteran only avaliable after multiple playthroughs
>technician is the TA specialization that has TA tagged
>infiltrate is tied to TA
Yeah man, you sure know what you're talking about. Martial arts and assault rifles is totally the way to go during your first (and possibly only) playthrough for the best outcomes. TA is useless.
>>339032110>"horse porn"
>>339031561
Would be Alpha Protocol type 1?
I like going silenced pistols + stealth, just staying glued to a wall, headshotting with blind fire and waiting for the bodies to disappear
I'm a magefag in fantasy games though, so being OP is my thing
>>339032110
He actually does grab a gun if you don't give the password. Mike shoots him automatically.
>>339032010
Congrats, an image that shows that you don't need just TA to get that outcome, quit being so mad for no reason.
>>339032043
But sometimes you have not even time to know how you'd want to answer
>>339032076
Chris Avellone was the lead writer, he's also worked on some other good games you may have heard of like Fallout 2, Star Wars KOTOR2
>>339032186
No one said TA was useless, but it is far from the best skill in the game. And no one in their right mind plays the game once, I hope you enjoyed your (You)s, you mad bastard.
>>339032186
no veteran is available after your first Recruit playthrough which is available as soon as you load up the game for the first time. and you don't need to put a single point into Technical Aptitude if you have the Tech Specialist background, you will still get the option.
AND also...probably not the best idea to let OP or any other newcomers in on this but getting the data is useless and doesn't do anything, saving your ally is always the best option. unless you just want more ammo.
>>339031738
shotgun's crit shot will knockdown enemies even when far away, allowing you to rush and melee the enemy
>>339032110
"huh, must hack some computer covered by an ice cream vendor, must be smooth about that"
>dialogue
>dialogue
>success
"sweet, let's do it nice and easy, before he gets orders then let's get ou-"
>"one more thing"
"shit"
>"gelato?"
>he was never involved
>he just wants to do his job
the best twist, just like the old russian agent who act tough but just want someone nice to talk to
>>339032290
Literally best moment of the game
>>339032010
>nothing to do with the dialogue wheel
It may not be displayed as a circle/wheel, but it's still just a description rather than what you're actually going to say. Sometimes TOO vague.
Witcher 3 did mostly alright until "shoving forcefully" somehow meant crushing a guy's leg.
As for the glass one, that's just a meme.
>Calm (Yes) -1 Mina
>Aggressive (Yes) -1 Mina
>Suave (Yes) -1 Mina
>Sarcastic (Yes) -1 Mina
>>339032375
When they are knocked down you don't need a single point in melee to do the follow up stomp that automatically finishes them, there's no need for both.
>>339032076
Obsidian
Think about it, every time they made a good game in terms of writing, the gameplay is an absolute mess like KOTOR 2 and New Vegas
>>339032305
Really? I should replay the game sometime just to see the alternate scenes and shit from what I did before.
>>339032446
darcy photoshopped our heads on this picture of a buddy cop movie and wrote MIKE AND SEAN FUCK YEAH
>>339032384
>he was never involved
Play it again and don't be smooth. He's involved. You just need to make it obvious that you're a spy. It's pretty funny seeing Mike go "I need to hack your computer to spy on the CIA."
>>339032446
>Mina.
>not the reporter/assassin or Sie.
lmao.
>>339032446
Calm and Sarcastic are both options that would be on the left
>>339032565
>Headslam (Yes) -1 Mina
>>339032526
>finish the gun-ho tutorial
>Darcy is mad you bested his time
it's those little moments
>>339032446
>professional +999999 mina
>send you flirty e-mails at the next hub
![3ef9225208bfa7e7e310196579ea9c52[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rnT4hTb.jpg "3ef9225208bfa7e7e310196579ea9c52[2].jpg")
>>339032542
>TFW when Mia was the insider that declared you rogue.
>>339032328
>Congrats, an image that shows that you don't need just TA to get that outcome, quit being so mad for no reason.
Yes you do for your first and second playthrough.
How the fuck is it relevant that once you have veteran you don't need TA for that specific instance? Oh wait, I already know you will stick to this red herring because you of all people cannot be wrong and have to win online arguments.
>No one said TA was useless, but it is far from the best skill in the game.
It literally breaks the game. You can refresh ALL skills with Brilliance. You can clear entire encoutners and rooms flawlessly with stealth+brilliance because you can silently melee takedown people without leaving stealth and brilliance does not remove stealth, meaning you can chains 2 stealths together.
You can also chain for example 2 pistol multishots with brilliance, etc.
It is easily the best thing you can tag in the game and you unlock more options with TA.
>And no one in their right mind plays the game once
Stop projecting.
What's objectively the best city order? I haven't played in ages but I think I remember Moscow, Taipei, Rome being quite good
>tfw AP gameplay sucked but you are now in a mood to play it again
>>339032526
I forgot about that.
That's just dandy
>>339032110
>>339032384
Reminds me of another tense gun sequence from a different game.
>Investigate leads to a serial killer
>Go to some insane dude's apartment
>He has christian symbols and pictures hung everywhere in his apartment
>He finds you and confronts you for snooping
>You have to try and pacify him through several choices or just shoot him
>If you fail he'll reach into his shirt and you have a split second to decide whether or not to shoot him
Shit was tense.
>>339032672
the problem with technical aptitude is that to get to Brilliance, you have to waste valuable skill points on things that you definitely do not need at all.
>>339025701
Spec in pistols, DON'T BE A FOOL LIKE I WAS, don't use the shotgun.
>>339032808
Who cares?
Brilliance makes the game easy modo either through nigh infinite stealth or insta-kill pistol shenanigans.
>>339025701
It's shit
>>339032841
but that's not fun.
>>339032772
That was Heavy Rain
>He just pulls out a crucifix and points it at you.
Is it possible to do a "kill everyone" run?
>>339032808
I think even on my stealth playthroughs (stealth was the most expensive one, right?) I easily had enough points left to go for brilliance
>being able to beat the everloving shit out of Halbech in the interview sequence.
my dick was diamonds.
this game was so underrated
>>339032629
There you go
>>339032672
>Yes you do for your first and second playthrough.
What if I play Recruit then Veteran?
>You can also chain for example 2 pistol multishots with brilliance
Chain Shot literally clears every room in seconds
>>339032752
I like Moscow, Rome, Taipei because it feels like it really escalates in how serious and world impacting the missions are
>>339032878
yes, you just have to select a kill option in dialogue with certain characters, you can't kill them during normal gameplay.
>>339032878
Yes there is an achievement for it, the only character you can't kill is Heck and whoever you don't take for the assault Brayko mission
>>339032878
Yeah man
Prepare for a sad ending
>>339032886
by the time you finish stealth the game is almost over. might as well just level up a combat skill instead and have something to blow all that money on.
>>339032752
you can hop around the intro missions in each hub to unlock all the best weapon/suits a little earlier but as far as "optimal" it doesn't really matter. the order has some effects on dialog and other neat little touches but that just encourages replayability which is great.
>>339032997
But fighting bosses with chain shot > brilliance > chain shot is way more fun
>>339032874
Yeah, it really made me start to appreciate that game. I always thought that cops are retarded for ever 'accidentally' shooting a civilian, but that sequence showed me just how tense and twitchy you get when there's a threat of someone pulling a gun on you.
>>339033043
>Needing Brilliance
Step up senpai
>>339033084
>say it's more fun
>somehow that translates to me needing it
???
>>339033142
>Needing Brilliance to have fun
Step up senpai
>Heck mails you that he fucked two girls at once
>>339033059
>always thought that cops are retarded for ever 'accidentally' shooting a civilian
Have you seen that video of that nigger who tried to rob a pharmacy and then pretended to pull out a gun when a cop confronted him?
>HE DINDU NUFFIN, DEY SHOT HIM EVEN THOUGH IT WAS JUST A FINGERGUN
>>339031367
There is no such thing as dialogue wheel done right.
>hurr 1 word to represent the entire direction the conversation will go, with no indication of actual topic or your stance on it
>>339033208
Why the fuck would you pretend to pull out a gun on a cop? What would that even accomplish?
Like what in the actual fuck?
>game doesn't have steam achievements
That's a damn shame. I'm a massive cheevos who and that's always a reason for me to go back and play old stuff.
>>339033201
>mfw
>>339033043
that's not fun at all, they probably would have fixed the effectiveness of chain shot if they ever patched the game. what the hells the point of boss fights if you can end them in less time than it takes for them to load.
>>339033201
>sends you conspiracy e-mails
>send bait reply back
>"WE ARE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS"
>>339033262
Uneducated people who panic
>>339033370
This part rang particularly true for me. I have a friend who sees a conspiracy in any and everything. Now and then I push him a bit just to see him get riled up.
>>339033201
Dear Steven.
Shut the fuck up.
Love, Mike.
>>339033262
It's especially funny since there's this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRKXa59PdEk which is trying to be all "HOW DARE HE SHOOT HIM WHEN HE ONLY HAD A PRETEND GUN?"
What's your favorite faction?
>>339033370
>>339032446
>Sarcastic (Yes) +1 Heck
>Aggressive (Yes) +1 Heck
>Suave (Yes) +1 Heck
>Headslam (Yes) +2 Heck
>>339033636
tracksuit slavshits
>>339033903
if you let brayko kill surkov he will send his slavs to help you in that annoying ass Rome warehouse mission. makes it a lot easier.
>>339033636
>muh Tom Clancy
So what's your ideal order of missions?
>Taiwan
>Rome
>Moscow
>>339034185
Exactly the opposite for me, Moscow > Rome > Taipei
>>339034185
taipei makes sense to do first since that's an assassination and you never know when that will happen. the other two objectives are more passive. also you meet scarlet on the plane and she's going to taipei.
>>339026165
>>339029982
tech opens everything
armor and weapons are meaningless
pistol kills everything
fuck off shitter
>>339025701
Stealth + pistols all the way.
>>339034304
>assassination in Taipei
>Scarlet on the plane
geez makes you think eh
>>339034379
if armor and weapons are meaningless then you shouldn't use technical aptitude. besides giving you Brilliance it does nothing but upgrade your weapons, armor and gadgets. shitter.
also i prefer a little challenge in my games, which is why i don't use pistols.
>>339034489
And I don't think she even talks about making a story about it afterwards
Kind of a shitty journalist if she's right there and gets nothing
>>339034185
I always liked
>Rome
>Moscow
>Taipei
>First one boss is the one that gets away (Yes I know you can kill him)
>Second one is the boss you finally get
>Third one is the twist that turns everything upside down
>>339034304
You forget that the plane is leaving Saudi, she goes to tons of different places.
>>339034656
That's exactly why I do Moscow first, IIRC you need to have met SIE to kill Marburg
>>339034656
no she stays in taipei the whole time you are in moscow and rome if you go there first. if you go to taipei first she sends you an email afterwards saying that she's still stuck there because the assassination/riots made things crazy.
>>339034720
I know, I'm just saying doing it that way gives me a real James Bond feel. My first play through I did that order, romanced Madison, then she got killed and from there I decided no more girls.
>>339034795
I mean before the game starts she's supposed to be someone who has traveled the world, it's not so odd for her to be in Taipei even if you don't go there first.
>>339034720
I prefer to fuck with him in the last mission and make him realize he's just a shitty pawn who'll get flushed down the toilet as soon as he stops being useful.
Having him as a constant rival who helps you in the end is a good feeling.
>>339034720
you don't, you can actually impress SIE by killing Marburg before you meet her. the requirements are having the Suave perk and using all Suave responses with Marburg, and you also need to do something to attract attention in Rome, like sniping Al-Bara or killing the NSA agent at the ice cream store.
>>339034873
I didn't know that. This fucking game, man.
>like sniping Al-Bara or killing the NSA agent at the ice cream store
Both of those options are terrible though
this game has the best perks
>>339034492
as youve said tech opens everything.
bullet sponging. getting shot at all. everything is a challenge for you. we get it. you cant aim and you cant move. you get mad at COD.
>>339034947
Shame that the veteran dialogue choices come out as uncouth and slightly callow, in my opinion.
>>339034945
i always go with the NSA one since he doesn't respond with the correct confirmation code that Mina gives you.
>>339034873
You need the Suave perk, all suave responses and at least a -3 rep with him which you get by making your presence known in Rome by killing Albara, the Gelato man, and alerting the CIA during the listening post mission, you also get +1 for getting a bunch of dossier info and Thorton will auto bring it up, you also get a +1 with Marburg for picking the bombs over Madison.
>>339034947
I think I'll install the game again but I don't want to do a whole playthrough to unlock veteran
Can I edit some file or is there some mod to unlock it?
>>339035029
>uncouth
He's tired of everyone's shit
>callow
I didn't think so, got any specific examples?
>>339034965
if i couldn't aim then i would use pistols :^)
>>339033619
>The people in that video defending the black man
Sometimes, I wish society would just get nuked.
>>339034945
You can kill the CIA operatives at the listening post.
Or shoot up the Italian police.
>>339035104
You can probably find a save file somewhere but I wouldn't know where to start
>>339025701
In case of fire вopyй, yбивaй, eби гyceй, жди oтвeтнoгo гyдкa.
>>339035104
>Can I edit some file or is there some mod to unlock it?
its a tiny file you drop in your save directory, easily found on google.
>>339035104
It's been a while so I'm not exactly sure. I remember that he was like "yeah yeah, I know the drill, do this do that, can we move on now?"
I was expecting something more like de Niro in Ronin.
You know, I should just install the game again and see for myself if it's not just my memory playing tricks on me.
>>339035085
if he hates you enough he won't be impressed by you picking the bombs, you have to get down to 5, right before Animosity. i also choose not to buy the dossier info before the cafe meeting.
>>339035231
Wait what, how is that callow? I'm not a native speaker, I thought callow basically meant being new and unprepared in the field you're talking about
>>339035196
>>339035167
Fair enough, I dunno why I asked instead of googling
>>339035179
Cheeki Breeki
>>339035239
Wow I didn't know that.
>>339035296
Maybe he meant callous.
>>339035296
>>339035417
Yes. My bad.
>>339035231
he does that in training, and obviously for good reason. when you hack emails and find dossier info on yourself thorton is a living god of spycraft. there's good veteran dialog options later on.
Veteran Thorton is the only canon Thorton
he's so fucking tired of this shit
>>339031779
>>he doesn't know about Veteran playthroughs
>OP: About to play this
>Recommends Veteran playthough
You're pretty fuckin' special, lad
>>339035493
I see
Anyway, that's exactly how I expected the veteran stance to be, since "professional" is a separate thing
>>339035530
>if i were in your shoes...well, i don't know what i would have done.
>Veteran: if you were in my shoes, you'd have been running for the hills.
>ooh.
Is there any kind of patch for the shitty PC controls?
>>339032470
>the gameplay is an absolute mess like KOTOR 2 and New Vegas
>mentions two games that weren't built on their own engine
KotOR II and New Vegas were improvements over their respective previous games in every way.
>>339033636
>>339034129
Good taste.
>>339032331
>getting the data is useless and doesn't do anything
Don't you need a a mostly completed dossier on Brayko to interrogate him?
>>339035829
No, just play with controller.
>>339035829
What's shitty about them?
For a western game it contains the most amazing Easter egg for Russians. Makes me wonder if it has something as endearing for Italians and Taiwanese in their parts.
>>339035549
Recruit Thorton is great on a blind first playthrough, though.
>>339035891
чeт пpoигpaл
>>339035845
yes, but the second to last part of Brayko's dossier is in the room where he was torturing your ally, on a counter.
>>339035891
I don't get it.
>>339035891
please explain. I am an un-educated american.
>>339036005
>>339036013
pobeda - victory, a commie buzzword
beda - poverty
Reminder that Thorton literally got an Olympic gold medal for martial arts.
What's the best background for the first time?
>>339034945
>>like sniping Al-Bara
>terrible
Sniping Al-Bara is worth it.
>>339035085
All you need is the Suave perk, his dossier, and one of those alerts, not all of them - if you just hammer on the Suave button every time you see him, he'll stick around to fight.
I think you need Suave as a dominant stance as well, though, rather than just the perk (because it doesn't display what your dominant stance is)
>>339035936
This, Recruit Thorton is best Thorton.
>>339035891
Obsidian had the best writers in the world back in the day. It's why New Vegas is such a good game, too.
>>339036053
>>339036013
>>339036005
Nah, beda basically means disaster.
>>339036005
>>339036013
It's a reference to a Russian children book called "Adventures of captain Vrungel" and its cartoon adaptation. It's about a world yacht race and main character calls his boat ПOБEДA(Victory) and says that as you call your boat such its voyage will be, but when embarking first two letters fall off leaving its name as БEДA(disaster) and their voyage turns into an unending succession of troubles.
>>339036083
If you want to play the game twice, recruit.
>>339035885
The hacking minigame.
>>339036059
championchik got a gold medal in dying, even though he did not stick the landing.
>>339036143
That's pretty neat, actually.
>>339036238
It's fine, could be worse
>>339036143
Neat, thanks for explaining
>>339036238
The only hacking minigame you need to play is the one that gives you infinite emp grenades.
*WINK WINK*
>>339036238
I dunno, I liked them. In fact I can't think of a game where hacking had its own mechanic and it was better than AP's.
>>339036450
deus ex: HR
>>339025701
You should play it at least twice and make different choices because the nature of the narrative doesn't really shine until you have some perspective.
>>339036450
He's talking about how shit the mouse controls for it were, since you don't really point where you want the sequence to go, but rather move the mouse off the "neutral" spot and it slowly moves in whatever direction you moved
i.e. a shitty emulation of an analog stick
>>339036238
I never had a problem with that.
>>339036472
Nah, that was very boring and basically relied on how fast I was with mouse.
Can you survive without toughness?
>>339036542
use wasd and arrow keys you tard
>>339036631
Staying hidden by being glued to a wall is way more efficient than toughness
>>339036652
i did, he was the one who complained about it
>>339035998
Shit, I always thought the data you saved was part of his dossier as well. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>339036059
>He didn't choose the best option
Six-point-four on the dismount, but he did not stick the landing.
Those unique mission summaries you get for taking special actions are fucking great, though.
>>339036083
Recruit, Recruit, Recruit. You don't miss out on too much by losing those skill points, just make sure you finish all your training and you're gonna have to be smart about the order you select your first missions in if you want to approach them with a specific style (say, stealth) - which is great for a first-timer. You don't really /lose/ anything if you don't, but it's still fun.
Protip: you get a special 'Recruit' dialogue option during your orientation and training, and if you pick it enough times it gives you some extra skill pointsbut it's not always the best option for Reputation
Also also: don't give a fuck about perks, you get perks for fucking everything (both literally and figuratively); so go nuts - you didn't miss out on something better just because the perk you got doesn't seem applicable to your playstyle.
>>339036631
Yes, you just have to be extra careful and bring some med packs.
