Odin Sphere thread, mah nigs! GET THE FUCK IN HERE!
The demo is out on the US PSN nowfor PS4.Download that shit right now!
Vita demo is out next week if anyone cares
>>339011853
>playing video games
>avoiding the Japanese ones
you're literally wasting your time
is the demo set up so i can transfer the save to the full game once it releases?
>>339011782
>demo
Isn't this just HD Odin Sphere though? Did they add shit?
>>339011961
Nigger it's a complete remake AND it includes an HD version of the original Odin Sphere
I'm pretty hype
Need to finish up muramasa rebirth though. Wish I could've gotten the dlc on sale
>>339011782
>just bought Odin Sphere for PS2
Why does this keep happening? Anyway, I'll opt for a physical copy. Looks great.
>>339012031
>Nigger it's a complete remake AND it includes an HD version of the original Odin Sphere
Will get when I eventually buy PS4.
>>339011961
I believe they tweaked a lot of the tedious things like farming issues for potions. Also I think I read that the combat system was tweaked to be more mechanically sound and fluid. Less mashing attack hoping they don't and more reacting to enemies with appropriate action.
The fact that load times will be better makes the game much more approachable.
>>339012192
>buying games for the PS2
You deserve what you get, retard
>>339011853
How about you kill yourself?
>>339011956
Nothing in the demo indicates that it will
>>339012103
It was on sale?
I downloaded the jap one like 3 months ago senpai
>>339012256
I play ps2 every now and then, hurr hurr.
im already gonna grab it on ps4, but the fact that it is being released on ps4 gives me a small shred of hope that it may eventually come out on PC.
i never got my hands on muramasa rebirth or dragons crown, so itd be fuckin fantastic if they eventually got all their games to PC.
How much is this going to cost?
>>339012256
What's wrong with buying games for one of the greatest consoles ever? Am I only supposed to use it as a DVD player?
>>339011782
Friendly reminder for Europeans and Aussies/Kiwis wanting to play this with the Japanese language track that only the American version has the Japanese dub, so you'll have to import a copy from the States if you want the original language track.
>>339013043
How would Odin Sphere benefit from a PC release if you already have a PS4?
>>339013061
$60 for PS4, $80 for PS4 Storybook Edition and $40 for Vita.
>>339013362
You can play them for free on PC, with save states, speedup and better graphics.
>>339013823
When does amazon charge you? I pre order the storybook edition but I don't think I will have the money when it comes out.
Platinumed the japanese version.
It's a worthy remake. 10/10
>>339013942
You know some games have issues when emulating, right? Alsoplaying on a CRT is pretty great.
>>339013969
Not sure. I'm getting it from Best Buy because I paid $30 for some membership and now I can get new games for 20% off.
I haven't enjoyed the combat in a Vanillaware game until now. This game's combat is fucking fantastic, holy shit.
Never played the original so pretty hyped.
>>339013823
i like having games on PC over any other platform since the library is always accessible to me (and the obvious upshots of tweaking options/mods/etc)
the reason i mention it in the same breath as PS4 is because this generation (ps4/xbone) are both x86-based. so if something has been made for either system, it takes virtually no effort to create a PC port, since PC is also x86.
id happily buy it twice, but would also love to have all of vanillaware's titles on PC regardless.
i mean i already own the PS2 copy as well, so its more about seeing games make their way to PC.
>>339013969
they charge when they ship. cancel now and youll be fine.
>>339012954
Mah man, I'b boot up my ps2 sometimes just to play godhand or ffxii.. FFXII remake for ps4 when?
>>339012256
Calm down anon-kun-sama, desu ga?
Ps2 has some of the best libraries ever
>>339014793
srsly. though with FFX's recent stealth PC release and successful HD port on consoles... i have to imagine they will do it with FFXII as well. it would be dumb not to, and it is one of the last few games that isnt on PC yet.
IZJS played and looked amazing on emulator, and ideally an HD remaster would just update the UI and give the option for IZJS or original. the textures and models are already outstanding and only need to be up-res'ed... i swear if they re-do the faces of the main characters like in FFXHD ill be pissed.
so many people missed out on a great game and fantastic story/production on FFXII its really a shame. it is an evolutionary leap from FFX.
>>339012031
Not him, but oh, that's cool. I haven't played any Vanillaware games, but I just got a Vita and Muramasa and Dragon's Crown was on my list. Was wondering if I should play the original Odin's Sphere before this one or not, but if it's just a remake that includes the original... I guess I'll wait for it to come out.
Speaking of which, does the edition of Muramasa that comes with the DLC come with the DLC on the cartridges, or just codes to be redeemed on the PSN?
>>339012031
>A complete remake AND it includes an HD version of the original Odin Sphere
>On top of 13 Sentinels coming out soon
>On top of Dragon's Crown which I'm not done yet
>On top of Muramasa Blade which I might just bite the bullet on the vita for so I can play all of the above away from home
Oh God help me.
>>339015124
I wasn't aware that there was a version that came with all the dlc sorry
>>339015625
I never heard any info on 13 Sentinels. What do we know about it?
>>339011782
I have a vita, so I'm afraid it's a weeks wait for me.
Do you guys think the story book edition will go up in value?
>>339015780
It's got mechs.
No release date as of yet. I'm expecting 2017
>>339015627
There's a Japanese version that does anyway, but it's just a code. I thought there was US version that had it all too. In any case, even if there is, it's probably the same way. Just wondering because I have a Japanese PSN account, but Muramasa and its DLC is cheaper on the US store (like everything else). If no all in one on the cartridge package exists, then I'll just have to get the Japanese version.
>no pstriple demo
Guys, I like Odin Sphere.
>>339015992
its probably pretty limited in its production, so possible? or maybe just hold its value?
youd have to sit on it for a while, and i dont see there being a big audience for it.
i wanted to get it, but in the end it just wasnt enough to justify the price.
Sega confirmed that they're releasing more console ports on PC, vanillaware also said that they want to put their games on PC so I'll wait for that one. Can't wait for some vanilla ware art in 4k.
>>339011782
Is it the same as the Japanese demo?
>>339017131
Thanks for the blog
>>339011782
I want to marry Milis.
Who is Milis? Wouldn't you like to know.
>>339017231
You sound upset that you're losing yet another "Only on Playstation" game.
>>339017131
This. I'd buy Muramasa again and maybe check out the other games.
Dragon's Crown doesn't seem good though.
>>339017131
Source?
>>339017429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqTghgwtyA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m17s
I don't have a PS4 and i don't want to switch Vita memory cards just to try the demo.
I'll wait
>>339011782
My nig, have you heard of Vanillaware and Atlus next collaboration, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim? Shit has mechs and shit.
https://youtu.be/8i6e48wG9Q4
>>339017685
muh dick
>>339017131
>>339017315
Why bring this shit into a peaceful thread? Jesus christ. Just fucking wait for the pc port, you dont need to tell everyone else in every thread
>>339015625
>On top of Dragon's Crown which I'm not done yet
If nobody plays online, I doubt you ever will.
>>339017737
Because PC fags feel the need to shit up threads about games they can't play.
>>339017417
how is this achieved? CFW on vita?
also, the 2k textures look amazing, but the artist took liberties with the designs. not sure how i feel about that.
>>339015992
I don't know, the limited edition isn't selling out, and the game is pretty obscure by normie standards.
It'll have value if its harder to find years from now.
>>339017865
And you wonder why you get shitposted to hell and back everytime they actually can play one of those games.
How much will it cost and whats so good about this game? Is it the story or the gameplay?
>>339017905
Dolphin, it's a Wii game remember.
When you're actually playing the game it doesn't really matter what texture pack you're using, you'll just know it looks a bit better.
>>339017994
Yeah how dare I tell them to fuck off and stop shitting up threads with their irrelevancy?
>>339017131
>Sega confirmed that they're releasing more console ports on PC
Reminder that the article about all the ebin leaks like Yakuza is at this point 99% false since it's been months and literally nothing has been confirmed from the list.
>>339013984
How long did that take?
>>339018053
ahh right. i played it originally on wii, totally forgot.
might have to spin that up sometime. i have never actually used dolphin yet, and there are definitely some games id like to give a shot (or replay, in this case).
Which character you guys gonna play first?
>>339018057
Your superiority complex is actually hilarious.
>"It's okay for me to shit up the thread because someone else did it first!"
The only thing you achieve is killing the discussion about the game and being called a cuck when the game finally comes out on PC.
>>339017417
>someone out there actually thinks the 2k shit looks good
>>339018147
Not even trying to fanboy but the Wii version is garbage with a worse translation and less content than the vita version
>>339018280
>garbage
It's 99% the same game, chill out.
>>339011782
Downloading it right now anon-kun. Thanks for the update.
>>339017481
Am I deaf or did they just give a "Oh yeah, Atlus games are totally gonna come to PC :^)" answer?
>>339018280
id like to play the rebirth version, but i have no vita and dont plan to get one. maybe grab a pstv if they go on stupid sale again... but no idea if it plays on pstv.
also, the ability to mod it in emulator is attractive as a reason to replay it.
>>339018239
The only ones that can actually come on PC (and aren't complete shit) are Vanquish and RoF desu.
>>339018414
Maybe if you believe enough it might happen some day even though Sega has no control over atlus
>>339018414
Don't mind me screencapping your post to make fun of you later on.
>>339012203
Or get the PS3 version
>>339019514
>getting the inferior version
Look at this retard.
>>339018348
what's wrong with her right eye
>>339011782
I'm playing the demo right now on PS4, and everything is silky smooth. The combat is much more fast paced and item selection is streamlined.
I'm pretty hyped.
>>339018348
This is gonna sound really nitpicky, but I really dislike what that did to her eye. Vanillaware has an artstyle where the eyes are kind of more shaded.
Not that I'm defending the pixely mess that is the right.
>not out in EU ps store
>>339019968
>item selection is streamlined.
CASUALISED SHIT!!!
>>339020537
Do you expect NISA to actually give out a demo of a broken game?
Probably not the best thread to ask but what should I get first, Odin Sphere or Guilty Gear?
I'm a casual fighting game player so I mostly play anything single player
>>339020986
odin sphere will keep you busy for a long time if youre only into the single player aspects.
GG is a good series, but i cant imagine playing single player having nearly the same lasting power.
>>339020986
OS will release as a full package
and you answered your own question. You aren't competitive so it's not like you are going to "fall behind" competitively if you don't get GG at launch.
So I played the demo, pretty cool but a bit put off now. I've really been enjoying Dragon's Crown, but the combat in this game feels a bit... Shallower, I guess? Which I can deal with, but the demo ends before you can actually do any of the RPG stuff.
So, are the RPG mechanics deep enough to be satisfying if I enjoy Dragon's Crown?
>>339023216
>So, are the RPG mechanics deep enough to be satisfying if I enjoy Dragon's Crown?
They're not nearly as deep. Most of the depth comes from crafting potions that will make shit like poison, cyclones, fire etc to defeat bosses. There's no stats for weapons, so you'll be using the same weapons throughout the game. There was talk of a skill tree and skills you can learn. But like you said, the demo kind of ended abruptly, so I'm not sure what they added.
Its much more like Muramasa gameaplay wise than DC.
>>339017481
>that comments section
Good God.
>>339023216
Actually here's a more in depth explanation:
"Vanillaware added almost 200 skills and abilities in Odin Sphere Leifthrasir! You’ll have the freedom to unlock powerful active skills, passive skills, and abilities to unleash the true potential of the main characters. The leveling system also has been streamlined so characters and Psyphers now level together. But of course, nothing is free in Erion: defeating enemies and exploring different areas is the only way to obtain Phozons and Phozon Prisms that are spent on unlocking/upgrading skills. That’s right – the source of your power only comes from the death of enemies. You would do well to remember that."
"Besides the addition of the skill trees, Vanillaware also tweaked many different gameplay elements in order to give Odin Sphere Leifthrasir a modern touch. Improvements include the ability to assign skills to button commands, full 1080p/60 fps support (say goodbye to frame rate drops!)"
"The included Classic Mode features the original Odin Sphere’s systems (but keeps the upgraded HD)"
>>339020986
Hard to say since I'm a fan of both but Odin Sphere has a preorder bonus of an artbook while GG comes with a DLC character code. If you don't care about the book you can save $6ish by buying GG at launch.
I'm a sucker for collectibles so I'd go with OS personally.
>>339013809
Wow, that is some serious bullshit.
>>339024983
I thought it's supposed to be pretty complex.
>>339025268
>That’s right – the source of your power only comes from the death of enemies
Wow, what a novel concept: kill enemies to receive XP.
>>339011782
This game is completely shit if it is not on PC. Call me when the inevitable Steam port comes out.
>>339026691
Fuck off elitist scum.
Is it just me, or is Oswald some OP bullshit?
>>339019679
What's worse about it?
>>339023216
It's not an RPG. Personally I hated the loot/gear/dungeon grind aspect of Dragon's Crown but if that was the aspect you liked then other Vanillaware games will disappoint you.
>>339026556
It used to be via food you dingus.
>>339024983
They added a whole skill system to the game though where every character has unique weapon skills and spells. You can try some in the demo already. I think when you put that on top of the Muramasa-like combat it becomes the best Vanillaware to date.
In the original Odin Sphere you only had a few skills you could limitedly use and many of them were shared between characters.
>>339028449
He is, the berserker mode or whatever they called it is fucking sick now when it was near useless in the original that lasted like 4 seconds.
>>339028885
This is my post too.>>339025268
>200 skills to be exact
It'll be fun unlocking them all.
>>339015873
Same
>>339012295
So its really not possible? That kinda sucks.
>>339011782
>EU Release date: June 24
JUST
>>339029019
This page says it does, but it was well over a year ago. I don't know if it's still accurate.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/08/10/odin-sphere-leifthrasir-screenshots-show-its-new-and-improved-looks/
>>339028974
Yeah judging by what the demo showed it feels like most of them are more useful than the Muramasa ones where I felt like the majority were iffy while some specific ones were really good.
Not to mention you now use a resource that is meant to be spent anyway on skills since it doesn't double as weapon durability. Also the fact you can equip any skill and have multiple slots instead of being limited to what your current weapon has is hype as fuck.
Literally been counting the days since January when I played the demo resisting the urge to import moon version.
Just a week and a half more.
>>339029025
I'm just gonna buy the US one digitally on 7th. Then maybe later get physical EU one if I feel like it.
>Captcha selections deselect themselves immediately
Why captcha why?
>>339029443
high test
The demo was my first experience with Vanillaware, I really liked it. Is Dragon's Crown enjoyable solo? Are there characters who play like the rabbit or Oswald?
>>339031332
>enjoyable solo
Yes. You can have AI partners too. No idea how Oswald plays though. Plenty of characters to pick from.
>>339031948
Oh, didn't know you could have AI partners, neat. Oswald in this demo played a lot like how I imagine Vergil from DMC would play on a 2D plane, don't know what he was like in the original OS but he was pretty fucking fun here.
Speaking of DMC, should I get Dragon's Crown over DmC and Dark souls 2 Scholar Edition? I know
>DmC
but I've a huge fan of the franchise and after putting many hours into the OG series I've become hungry for more stylish action. Can I be stylish in DC? I noticed you could get pretty stylish in this demo, so I'm hoping DC can scratch that itch and keep me from buying fucking DmC.
>>339032758
bampu thread. pls don't die i need opinions
>>339032758
>should I get Dragon's Crown over DmC and Dark souls 2 Scholar Edition?
Yes you should. Both are bad games. And if you are a "fan" of DMC then you shouldn't even mention that abomination. Also Dragon's Crown is a game I personally couldn't get into. I'd imagine it being much more fun if you played with someone, but I didn't have anyone to play with.
>>339033212
I don't think DS2 looks bad, I mean ADP and the hitbox issues sound shitty but the original DS wasn't perfect either. Also I know I shouldn't want DmC, but I'm really hungry for more stylish action, my body yearns for it.
>>339011782
Plat'd it over 3 months ago
>>339033570
if you havent played DS2 at all, the controls and gameplay feel very different from DS1 and are much worse
if you want to try it, wait until it's on sale for 5 bux
>>339033570
The biggest problem with DS2 isn't on a mechanical level, it's in how uninspired it is. The levels are boring, the enemies are boring, the weapons are boring, the map is boring. It's Dark Souls stripped of its, well, soul.
It's still an ok game, but if you enjoyed the atmosphere and exploration in the first one, you're going to be disappointed.
>>339032758
Well this is a Vanillaware thread so of course I'm going to recommend DC over anything.
I don't know if you play on pc, but DmC was on humble bundle recently with some DLC too..
I loathe Dark Souls 2 myself so you won't get an unbiased opinion on that one from me. Seems like you should get the active game aka Dark Souls 3 instead.
If you want stylish action you should look into
Bayonetta 1&2(Wii U)
Dragon's Dogma(PC)
Vanquish(PS3)
MGR Revengeance is on sale too on pc right now if you've missed it.
If you want a Vanillaware game get DC.
>>339011782
i dont need a demo to know that its good.
its my most anticipated game this year and really cant wait
anyone knows what mode they are starting with?
going to play the original first, or the enhanced version?
>>339033670
Are they similar to 3's controls? I've played that and enjoyed it, but the weapon art thing bothers me. It's not bad but I've seen power-stancing in 2 and I gotta wonder why it got replaced with something inferior.
>>339031948
what are they looking at
>>339033851
it's nothing like 3, if you liked 3 you'll probably hate 2
>>339011782
This shouldn't be a full priced game. I still took the bait but it really should be 29.99 for the regular version and 60 for the limited edition
>>339011782
>currently in poorfag mode
>shouldn't preorder the game but if I don't preorder I risk missing out on the artbook
This is hell
>>339028449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLV_cAQMsSE
>>339034045
Nah, who are you to decide whether it's a full priced game or not? It definitely has enough hours of worthwhile content to justify $60.
>>339033945
Your dick.
Fighter flexing his muscles/taking his helmet off and revealing his bishounen face/hair probably
>>3390117
Is there a reason to play it again? I beat it aons ago and I liked it but it got repetitive I don't see it playing it again.
The demo is kinda short though
I'll probably play it anyway since I really enjoyed the PS2 version.
>>339033725
After going through DS3 I've just accepted that Souls will never have the level design of 1 again. As for atmosphere and exploration, it was what I liked the most about OG DS, which is something I felt 3 fumbled with, too. I still enjoyed it, but it felt really linear and uninspired, like what you're saying about 2. I've heard 2 has an insane amount of build variety and I guess that's what I'm most interested in since I already know the atmosphere and exploration are gonna let me down.
>>339033740
Only gaming consoles I got atm are PS4 and PS3, no PC either. I've played Bayo 1, DD(one of my all time favorite games actually), Vanquish and MGR. I enjoyed them all immensely but I want something new.
>>339034229
>A port of an almost 10 year old game from 2 gens ago
>Charging 60 bucks for the standard edition
Yeah nah go fuck yourself. It's 30 bucks over priced for what it is. HD remixes of other games (that had multiple games on the disc) where hardly ever full price.
>>339034045
that shirt is such a letdown
>>339034018
I'm not sure how I feel about 3's gameplay yet, it was nice but felt a lot like BB to me. I liked BB a lot, in fact I'd say it's tied with OG DS for the best fromsoft ARPG, but I'm not sure if I like the faster pace for DS
>>339034478
It's not just an hd remix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdePH3-xoWo
It's faster, the combat system is reworked, and comes with a simple hd version of the original if one doesn't like the new stuff.
>>339034478
this isnt some cheap 3D HD remake where they just increased the resolution
they made new animations, new enemies, the combat and other shit are completely redone, etc
and it includes the original game
>>339034592
It really is, i'd rather a plushie from the game
>>339034747
It's still at it's core a port of a PS2 game. SoC/Ico was a 40 buck game when it got its HD port, so was the Jak collection and that had 3 games.
It's a bit over priced i mean shit they still got me but I wounder if it will hurt sales in the long run.
>>339011782
>Demo's out today
I should have waited before preordering.
>>339034910
The only reason it feels like a port of a PS2 game is that it's using the same art, as Vanillaware can't really change that. If it had different graphics I'm fairly sure people whould have no problem with calling it a remake.
>>339031332
Post-game, probably not, but the main game, sure.
>>339013809
>American version has the Japanese dub
atlus USA put dual audio in something? has hell frozen over?
>>339035183
Regardless, it's still overpriced
>>339035372
What happens post-game?
>>339034910
>It's still at it's core a port of a PS2 game
No it isn't. It's essentially a new game in terms of mechanics, levels, boss moves and pretty much everything that has to do with the gameplay. The only things it borrows from the original are its story, some of the gameplay concepts (but again, mostly reimagined) and many of the art assets.
Not that I would mind it being 40, but calling it a port is fucking ridiculous. Almost every mechanic has changed in some way.
>>339035557
There's just a post-game dungeon/tower that's pretty challenging. It's best to go with people who have actual builds/experience. I imagine it won't be as enjoyable with AI partners.
>>339035557
It's mostly due to the AI partners being useless on higher difficulties. They can't dodge for shit, so don't expect them to help to much against bosses that do high damage. I still beat the game on the hardest difficulty solo, but the partners die really quickly on difficulties above normal.
>>339035642
Oh, so like root 5 chalice dungeons in Bloodborne? I like those so I might actually enjoy that.
>>339035513
They put dual audio in the original PS2 release.
>>339035730
Do I have to help the partners or can I just let 'em die and do my own thing?
>>339035513
Yep, the American version is dual audio. The European version however (And by extension, the versions in Australia and New Zealand) doesn't have the Japanese dub, but substitutes it for French, Spanish and Italian language tracks.
>>339035595
Dude you drank the kool aid hard, i like vanillaware a lot but you take it to a whole new level.
>>339035824
You can let them die, as new AI should come and replace them during dungeons. Just make sure you enable the option for partners to join midgame.
>Vita version $40
>PS3 version $50
>PS4 version $60
Why is this okay? It's the same game. Why would I get the PS4 version?
Played the demo
Holy shit, compared to the original, it was like getting off a bike to ride a sports car
>>339035915
>The European version however (And by extension, the versions in Australia and New Zealand) doesn't have the Japanese dub
source
>>339036003
the price is just higher where the demand is higher.
>>339035946
Have you played them both? Can you with a straight face tell me that they even play similarly? If it had a different setting and different graphics you wouldn't even know from this demo that it was based on Odin Sphere. It has nothing to do with fucking kool aid, the mechanics are literally not the same.
>>339036003
Because it's on PS4.
>>339035953
Good, guess I'll pick it up next time I got cash.
>>339011782
>no PC
fuck this
>>339013809
>>339035915
Well if that's true I'm glad I didnt wait for the EU version
EU demo when?
>inb4 never ever
>>339036110
Come on dude, unless you work for vanillaware your shilling a little to hard. Look I bought a copy so I got no room to talk but the game is at least 20 bucks to much on PS4
>>339036127
But that does nothing. The experience is the same. I get Vita being cheaper because handheld games generally are always $40 and you need to make due with a small screen and can't really enjoy it in high resolution on big TV.
This pricing makes sense in games where the PS3 version runs like ass compared to PS4 but as far as I can tell these are identical. Played the Japanese demo on PS3 and it didn't have any hiccups.
>>339026418
>>339035513
>>339035915
>>339036021
>>339036232
http://store.nisaeurope.com/products/odin-sphere-leifthrasir-storybook-edition
>Audio Language: English and Japanese
The text offers Italian, French, etc. as well tho.
>>339036393
Like I said, I wouldn't mind if it was cheaper. I wouldn't mind if it was five fucking bucks. It's just not a port. If you think it is, you have no clue what a port is.
>>339036352
This. Where is my demo?
>>339036448
Ps3 is 720p@30fps and PS4 is 1080p@60fps
Making PS3 cheaper is just an attempt to entice buyers on a mostly dead platform
>>339036526
No it's not 30 fps. Dunno about the resolution though.
>>339036526
Pretty sure it was proven PS3 was 60fps as well and the resolution was the only difference.
Vita is the only one running @30fps
>>339036449
That's neat that they've updated it. I remember it got listed up without the Japanese track originally a few months ago, which upset quite a few PAL region fans.
>>339036496
It is by definition a port. And your rant about it costing 5 bucks is asinine. 40 bucks is fair for what this game is.
just ordered the ps4 expensive edition
i think it comes with an artbook and a shirt or some shit
>>339036637
Is it really? Even Dragon's Crown was 60 fps on Vita and the original Odin Sphere was 60 fps even on a fucking PS2 (except for Odette lol).
Not to mention Vanillware games seem to be some of the lightest stuff around considering back in the day Muramasa was the first Wii game I could emulate on my toaster at full speed.
There's no demo for yurop?
>>339036684
Your image even states that reworked versions of games are not really ports.
>>339036684
That very definition literally makes reference to the fact that "port" has had its meaning change in modern times.
It's not a port by the modern definition, it's essentially a remake.
>>339036765
Just make a US account? I dunno why you wouldn't already have one. Japan too.
>>339036847
well
you are right
i'm off to make one
>>339036847
Who has three cards to use?
>>339036771
>>339036775
Is english your second language or something? Go read the wiki they are talking about early conversions for home consoles that used entirely different code/art.
By your guys stretched logic Witcher 2 on the xbox is not a port or Mass Effect 1 and 2 to consoles. Get off the kool aid
>>339036918
I assumed he meant PS4 since there's no Vita demo out in US yet is there?
>>339011782
I have the Storybook Edition pre-ordered, and I'm gonna wait patiently so the new gameplay experience can be as fresh as when I played it on the PS2. Hope you fellas like the demo though.
If this game has been out for 10 years I mustask. Is there porn ofOswald, he's a qt
>>339036921
Either you have autism or you are just fucking around. Sure it's a port in terms of "this game that used to be on platform X is now on platform Y" but the gameplay has completely been reinvented so calling it a remake is not a stretch. If you want to call it a port then it's a re-imagined port. In any case it's not "just port that is worth less than a new game".
>>339036921
Mass Effect 1/2 and The Witcher 2 didn't receive massive changes to the base gameplay mechanics, remastered or outright new assets, and additional changes.
Stop being a retard m8
>>339037110
>Mass Effect 1/2 and The Witcher 2 didn't receive massive changes to the base gameplay mechanics
You are 100% wrong mate, try and play Mass Effect 1&2 with a gamepad and see how far you get :)
>>339037097
Really? You are calling me autistic? Bit of the pot calling the kettle black yea? Your the one saying a 10 year old PS2 game is worth 60 bucks and aruging semantics over the word "port"
>>339037253
Ah, so it's bait.
>>339037253
>Your the one saying a 10 year old PS2 game is worth 60 bucks
No, I'm saying a brand new game that is based on a 10 year old PS2 game is worth 60 bucks. Is it so hard to comprehend?
Also like this guy says >>339037339 it's bait. The style of writing is a dead giveaway although using "kool aid" multiple times should have been one already.
>>339037339
>I have no argument so i'll just claim it's bait
>>339037412
Did we play the same demo? Is it still not a 2D game based on circle maps? It's the same assets from the PS2 game that got touched up. It is not a ground up remake.
>>339037553
>It has aspects taken from the PS2 game so that means I can ignore the fact it plays nothing like the old game
Nobody ever called it a ground up remake but it's still a remake.
>Build a house
>When I built it I thought it was good but now I want something better
>Take it apart and build it differently
>Add a few new parts while you are at it
>Hey I rebuilt my house!
>NO YOU DIDN'T IT'S THE SAME HOUSE SINCE YOU USED THE SAME MATERIALS
>>339037553
Mario World is pretty much a port of Mario Bros 3. Is it still not a 2D game based on going from left to right? It's even got the same designs in terms of graphics, just touched up.
Only wait, the level design, gameplay mechanics and so on are all different. When is a game not the same game anymore? What is the difference between games? I'd argue it's mostly the gameplay mechanics, you know, the thing that makes a game a game. These gameplay mechanics feel vastly different in the remake compared to the original game. Some really general concepts might be the same, like it being a 2D platformer, but the actual raw mechanics are vastly different.
>>339037834
>false equivalence
Really hate to bust out logical fallacies but your house rant has nothing to do with how video games are made and ported. This is an enhanced port.
Like honest question, how much of the game is gonna have different geometry? From what I played none of it
>>339037975
I mean in some ways it was you guys that got all autistic about the word port. It's semantics really but you guys jumped on that word to defend the price of the game because it's the only argument you guys got. Everyone here knows it's 20 bucks over priced at least. I paid the Fatlus tax, it's not like I didn't spend the money. I'm more so worried it will hurt sales and keep other Vanillaware games in the East.
>>339037975
>the level design
Going by the demo it's 1to1 for geometry of the level
> gameplay mechanics and so on are all different
We are gonna get real nitpicky about this but like I said by your logic Mass Effect 1 and 2 were remade for consoles and not ported because both them games play really fucking different since the PC version doesn't use gamepads and the consoles do
>>339038217
I don't give a shit if you call me autistic or whatever, it's just not a port and calling it one is fucking absurd. Again, if it didn't have the same graphics you wouldn't even notice.
>>339038347
But it does have the same graphics and it has the same geometry as well.
You port truthers are the ones that started using the autism insult first. I don't need to stoop to that level because i'm 100% right
>2 weeks from release already
Shit time flies. Going to pre order for the art book.
>>339038325
Changing an input device doesn't change the underlying logic behind the gameplay systems. Odin Sphere has different gameplay systems.
Also replay the original, it didn't even really have level design. As far as I remember they were all circular with very little to them, while the remake has platforming sections, rooms that are horizontal and vertical. The geometry is not the same.
>>339038494
I never called you an autist at any rate.
I'll get it on Vita for $40. $60 on PS4 is too much.
I have played both Dragon's Crown and Muramasa Rebirth, how much content does Odin Sphere have compared to the other titles mentioned?
>>339038623
>Changing an input device doesn't change the underlying logic behind the gameplay systems
It 100% does, at least in this case. The balancing is even different to composante. Go play the 360 version then the PC then try and tell me they play the same.
>Odin Sphere has different gameplay systems
Yeah sure, if you swallow all the marketing wank. I played the demo and the ps2 version almost back to back. Sure played real similar to me.
>>339036449
>actual localized EU release that is not even that long away from the US one from a Atlus Game
I feel like I am in a dream.
>>339038596
Odin Sphere artbook?
...Fuuuuuuuuck...pre-ordering after work...sigh...
Reminder to pick Mercedes if you like Contra or OP andfuncharacters to play with.
