http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/random_store_shelves_appear_to_be_filling_with_pre-owned_copies_of_star_fox_zero
great job assholes, if this keeps up soon we'll be stuck on Star Fox Limb0 again until Dylan Cuthbert picks it up again.
>Zero 2 will never happen
>you will never experience full-fledge levels with the Roadmaster
>Gyrocopter element removed in favor to it
they could bring back Krystal, without the bullshit, for all i care.
jesus
>you will never blah blah blah expanded elaborated blah
Didn't they have long enough to do this to begin with?
come the FUCK on
>>338927549
There is a shelf full of Uncharted 4 at my local CEX
Does that really mean anything?
>Nintendo thought this was enough to carry them for an entire year
Makes sense, I know I returned mine.
Star Fox was always a terribly overrated series. It really should never have been a series. They hit pay dirt with 64 because it had the horsepower to give shape to what they were trying to do on SNES in the original, but it should have stopped there.
It should have never become a key Nintendo franchise. The genre itself is basically dead regardless of the franchise.
I'd rather keep my $60 than own that turd for another second, which I did. God bless Amazon Prime.
>>338927684
people whined about the linear Day/Night shit Miyamoto was going to implement
>>338927770
If they'd actually franchised the thing effectively, SF could have been great.
But remaking the same game 4 times, then having 2 awful spin offs, all spread out over 23 years is not how you get your shit together.
>>338927743
New unopened Uncharted 4.
>>338927770
>key Nintendo franchise
Could have fooled me with the way they were treating it.
>>338927743
Uncharted 4 is overstocked everywhere. Starfox Zero is usual artificial scarcity Nintendo bullshit release numbers.
You know it to be true.
And then Nintendo will recall and destroy every unsold copy and that will drive the price up on the used market.
>>338927770
t. one of the 10 people who bought Sin and Punishment games
>>338927848
Assault was a sequel, not a remake.
It was still the worst of the four.
>>338927859
>CEX
>New
Anon. Pls.
>>338927893
Doesn't matter. People are trading it in a few weeks after release. Like every game. Some people just don't hold to games.
>>338927549
>sonygger site
>legit
nice try sonygger
>series is just a platform for Miyamoto's dumbshit experiments
The horrendous on-foot sections of Assault were all him.
>>338927940
nintendrones return their games less than other people
>>338927760
they got pokemon coming. they'll fucking live.
>>338927940
>Some people just don't hold to games.
especially if the game in question isn't good
>>338927646
>spreads it over shelf to prove point
The games behind aren't starfox
>>338927925
>SF
>SF64
>SF3D
>SFZ
Basically the same game with graphical jumps
>Assault
Shitty sequel
>Command
>Adventures
Shitty spin offs
Nintendo killed Star Fox by refusing to develop it well
>>338928028
Right but Uncharted and Starfox are good.
I wish I could return the experience of playing the game.
I don't understand how this game turned out bad. Like even if you ignore the motion controls (which worked fine, but weren't needed), the entire game is just fucking bad.
>3 UFO Bosses
>2 Dragon Bosses
>Stages without bosses or Star Wolf fights
>Every Boss is an All Range Mode fight, even the Attack Carrier which fucking matches you speed anyway
>Gigarilla and Andross are fucking Walker fights
>The auto-lock on so you can't even fly normally
>>338928024
Even Pokemon has been falling off for them lately.
>>338928015
Really? You'll have data to back that up?
>>338928028
Debatable. Uncharted 4 is apparently the best game of the year so far. And you can get a second hand copy for £20, 2 weeks after it came out.
>Metroid Prime
>beginning of the end for the Metroid series
>Starfox Adventures
>beginning of the end for the Starfox series
Why was the Gamecube such a piece of shit?
>>338927940
CeX do sell new games, you retard. How do you think they sell games before street date? All they do is open the sealed packaging so they can sell it as preowned.
>>338927549
>Star Fox Adventures was dogshit
>Star Fox Assault was fuckshit
>Star Fox Zero was fucking abysmal
Nah, fuck this series. Star Fox 64 was great but nothing else has been good in this series. Nintendo should either sell it to someone else or end the franchise.
>>338928136
GC is the most overrated console Nintendo ever made.
>Worst SF
>Worst Zelda
>Worst Metroid (Prime 2)
>Worst Mario Party
>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
Co-op mode is super fun in Star Fox 0. Single player, not so much. They should have marketed it as something to play with 2 people.
>>338928179
>sell new games
>as pre owned
Stop being a retard. Post a source or shut the fuck up.
>>338928235
>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
Bullshit.
>>338928117
You can? Where from?
>>338928302
>>338928302
>They should have marketed it
FYFYMNYDEHTTM
>>338928013
I want Gamecube/GBA era Nintendo back so badly. Remember when Nintendo broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?
Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine, Thousand Year Door, Double Dash.
>>338928313
Dual Dash is really hyped up by Gamecube apologists but it's honestly pretty bad.
>>338928235
Don't forget worst Super Mario.
And with Melee the worst sub-community.
>>338927549
>60 dollars game
>only 9 short levels
>basically SF 64 spit polished
What the fuck did you expect?
>>338928235
Nigger you are fucking stupid if you think if the Wii Mario Parties are better than the GC ones.
No, you are stupid. Your whole post is just dumb.
>>338928348
CEX, Game, HMV, any shop that sells second hand games really.
The video game market in the UK is ridiculous. I got Xenoblade for a tenner because, and I quote the manager here, "no one knows what a Xeno is"
>>338928106
No it hasn't. ORAS sold 13 million copies, almost as much as HGSS on a system with one third the userbase. Freaking Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
>>338928106
making a shitty remake to Ruby/Sapphire that took out more stuff from the originals than it introduced didn't help. Also Yokai Watch blew up around then so no shit pokemon sales were down.
>>338928357
>broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?
Breaking the status quo of them actually being good isnt a good thing, Anon.
>>338928357
The Wii was the start of Nintendo's downfall. And it's seen a hard fall since then.
>>338927760
You know how SE are determined to make FFXV succeed by basically pleasing fans, showing progress, accepting criticism, etc?
Nintendo need to do that. A company that doesn't do what its fans want is ridiculous
So is it true that purple fox Crystal cucks Star Fox?
>>338928450
>"no one knows what a Xeno is"
Britain - not even once.
>>338928585
Except they still think they are doing what people want.
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>338928647
Exactly. But sales are falling. How can they fucking ignore that? How long for? When no-one bought the WiiU, they said it was because the gamepad isn't seeing much use.
This fucking company, man
>>338928585
>Nintendo
>giving a shit about the fans
Keep dreaming.
>>338928404
Saying it's a polished 64 would imply the game is actually fast.
>>338928585
SE is already anticipating FFXV to fail,why do you think they took their biggest potential cash cow (FFVII remake) and chopped it into multiple $60 purchases?
>"I haven't been involved in Star Fox since 64!"
>Producer of Assault and Command
why Shiggy had to lie?
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
IN the US. It still hasn't outsold total sales.
>>338928235
Other M and Phantom Hourglass you fucking nigger.
>DD bad
Kill yourself.
>>338928450
GAME sell it for like near on 50 in store, CeX sell it for 45 and HMV don't even sell games any more IIRC. If you get it for 20, you can profit by selling it to CeX. You are you're not confusing it with the Nathan Drake collection?
When I asked my local GAME if they were stocking Xenoblade X, the manager said "lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game". He was Indian. I'm surprised anyone buys anything from GAME considering how ridiculous their in store prices are.
>>338928720
See, I can see where they're coming from with this.
>MP series was dipping, let's franchise Metroid and try another Metroid when this game releases, to see if the series is on more people's radar
Fine. Whatever.
>SS and SPM are the biggest selling Paper Mario games, let's try it again
Fine. Whatever.
But going back on their now 10 year mentality of multiple ways to control games in favour of a single control scheme in Star Fox?
Literally what is the thinking behind that?
>>338928106
Do you just say things to sound smart?
>>338928753
It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses. But it doesn't mean they aren't listening to the fans.
>>338928983
>It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses
>It's not gonna fail, it just won't make money.
I'll be astonished if FFXV is a complete game, it's looking more MGSV all over again.
>>338928983
FFXIV, XI, and DQX will continue to cover any losses that XV brings, so there's no problem if it only sells 2-3 million.
>Assault's single player is disappointing
>Command's single player is trash
>Zero is lackluster hybrid of SF2 and SF64
can we get Retro Studios on this?
i honestly feel like giving up on the series at this point
KI:U didn't do any justice for me either
They did it wrong
>have splatoon pre ordered for cheap price
>previews and demo comes out
>it's shit
>cancel it
And haven't regretted that decision for one second. Why anyone even got so far to actually buying star fox is pretty troubling
>>338928858
>lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game"
Why do console warriors take jobs like this? I remember buying FE Radiant Dawn from GAME, because it was cheap as fuck, and the conversation went like this
>put game in front of guy
>Dude, a Wii game? Really? Why do you have a Wii?
>Because I like the games
>Damn man, I've got a Xbox One and its the best console
>Why not just get a PS4? It has most of the same games but it runs them better
>I HATE Sony, I'd never get a Sony console
What the fuck ARE these people? I don't know if I'm noticing this shit more because I'm in my late 20s, but the 18 year olds they get to work in these shops is ridiculous
>>338928802
In Japan too, check Media Create. Unless SFV has a huge lead over Pokken in Europe, that's worldwide sales as well. Although we won't know until Nintendo releases Pokken's full sales.
>>338928461
>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
Sonyggers on suicide watch?
>>338929124
I dunno, not even PlatinumGames could save Star Fox, it might be time to lay it to rest.
>>338928179
Worst attempt at bait I've seen in quite a while. You should be disappointed mate
I'd say no one wants to pay $60 for a 20 year old experience but DOOM is blowing that theory out of the water.
>>338929079
If FFXV someone has the same unfinished feel that MGSV had, I'm not sure I would be able to hold off my suicide for KH3.I'm killing myself after KH3 because I know it will be the final straw
>>338929227
I dunno much about FFXV, but it sounds a lot like development is troubled. Its out in a few months and they're constantly changing shit, just released a demo with horrible frame rate/resolution (including an area lifted straight from the game, with one character, and limited magic use)
>>338928136
>>338928235
>>338928385
So I'm not the only one! I don't know how those games get so much love.
For me the Gamecube was the first Nintendo console I needed to supplement with a second console (PS2). Then a XB360 to go with the Wii, and probably a PS4 to go with my Wii U. I actually own more Wii games than PS2 and XB360 games combined, and I love my Wii U, but the GCN marked the beginning of a lacking library, especially if you're a fan of genres that just can't be had on Nintendo hardware.
The N64 was a blunder too but at least it carried the generation for me.
>>338927646
This is why I have a modded 5.3.2 Wii U. So I can try before I buy.
>>338927549
>Shit game
>Shit series
>Shit everything
Who cares
>>338929358
Right, and Zero being good would mean you buy it.
>>338929163
SFV sold 1.4 million copies, with at least 155k copies sold on Steam.
>>338929217
i haven't played DooM for a long fucking time
is DOOM any good?
>>338929324
Yeah I feel you there.
At the moment, Nintendo are good for platformers, the occasional above standard action or JRPG game, and Mario Kart. That's fine, but sometimes you just need something a little different. I got Arkham Origins on WiiU just because the collection I had lacked anything I could play for more than an hour at a time, and more than once. You know how Nintendo just took their first leap with multiplayer TPS with Splatoon? They need to do the same with cinematic games
>>338927549
NINTENDOMINATION!
>>338927549
hmmmm what this tells me... is go out and buy a brand new copy and never open it and stash it away in a safe place and in about 10 years it will be worth a grip load. Most nintendo bullshit only goes up in value anyways due to their publishing philosophies.
>>338928136
>>beginning of the end for the Metroid series
>what is Prime 2 and Fusion
not to mention that Metroid was supposed to end at Super Metroid
>>338928097
Yep. It's like they didn't even try to mix it up at all. At least in 64 you DID have the option of taking the All Sectors/Arwing Only route, and the boss fights were generally mostly on rails with a few All Range ones sprinkled in for flavor.
They literally didn't need to touch 64's formula and just reskin it with pretty graphics, some updated music, a few boss revisits (like the carrier) with some new boss fights added in.
I mean, shit, how many of the bosses in SNES Fox and 64 had some sort of interesting gimmick? It really shouldn't have been that fucking hard to come up with new ones without relying on that retarded gyro shit or walker.
I said the same thing about Command when I first got it. All THAT needed to be was a a reskinned/retooled version of Starfox 2, since it borrowed heavily from it anyways, and we got some faggoty stylus shit and barrel rolling into UFOs.
Nevermind the fact that they decided to do some updated tracks from 64 instead of the objectively fucking awesome soundtrack that SNES had. Seriously, I dont know if they fired the composer after Starfox 2 got canceled, but the music hasn't been that great ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSvnRtI54k
>>338928136
It wasn't your taste are just shit.
Mario Kart Double Dash
All the Resident Evil games were the superior versions
Melee
Luigi's Mansion
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Paper Mario
The list goes on.
>>338927549
>mediocre 10 hour game sold at full price is being returned already
Woooah.
I own a Wii U and even I think you people are retarded for buying this shitty game.
Instead of buying actual games with good content and replay value like Xenoblade, you went and bought this mediocre sloppy handjob experience
Nintendo really fucked up, Nintendo still produces garbage games that no one asked while continuing to ignore Core titles that are in desperate need of resurgence like F-Zero or Metroid. SF has only had one good game.
>SF
Decent for it's time. Bad for a current game
>SF64
Good for it's time. Decent for a current game
>SF3D
Shitty rehash by nintendo just trying to make that quick buck.The horrible hardware ruins this game
>SF Z
Good example of Neo-Nintendo.Average game ruined by horrible gimmicks, nostalgia cash ins and rehashed.
>>338928356
Uh, what planet are you living on? They did. They had this ad playing around the clock on TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAn5AgdPkCo
Not to mention they commissioned a fucking anime short and livestreamed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA2-0nTxaGg
They also had big promotions with Gamestop over it.
There are plenty of games Nintendo didn't market but Star Fox isn't one of them.
>>338930471
dumb umaru poster
I heard that the controls are terrible, but is it really bad enough to make it an unsalvageable mess?
>>338930701
They're not. Anyone who says they are probably shitposts the same thing about Splatoon. You get used to it after a while.
>>338929307
I know I'm 3 hours late, but most of the changes have been based on fan feedback (like adding a stamina bar for sprinting) so they're not just changing things for no reason and the demo was just quickly slapped together in 2 months by a small portion of the dev team.
>>338930701
Well, if a game hinges on a gimmick and you find the gimmick unbearable, retarded, and most of all, unavoidable/not optional, then yes.
>>338930701
The whole game is a non-cohesive gimmicky shitfest.
It's hardly about the controls, but more about how the game plays.
Just more proof of Miyamoto going senile and no one wanting to tell him to fuck off because he's LE LEGENDARY DEVELOPER
He needs to quit already
>>338928136
>Metroid Prime
>Bad
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>338927646
>People didn't like a 3 hours mediocre game?
Really?!.......
You could have supported good games like Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade Chronicles X
But no, you decided to support le nostalgia furry series.
I hope you're proud of yourselves, assholes.
>>338928356
There was a SF0 trailer playing when I was in the theatres to watch Captain American 3. They marketed the hell out of it.
>>338930345
>>338931313
Stop samefagging.
I bought the collector's edition of Xenoblade.
>>338928461
It's still under 12 mln copies
Didn't even outsell FRLG
>>338927549
Hopefully they'll drop the price to like $10-20 (inb4 green text Nintendo games ever dropping in price). I may force myself to suffer through the gyro shit for that price.
>>338931558
Or you could boot up Loadiine and try out the game for free.
It's literally putting a couple folders in an SD card and launching internet browser.
I really, really liked Star Fox Zero.
Too bad you can't have a single good discussion about it on the internet.
>>338931641
I still can't believe how simple Wii U piracy is compared to 3DS.
Given, you still can't play online or pirate DLC on Loadiine
>>338930701
The gameplay structure is really archaic by today's standards. The main quest can be finished in about 3 hours, the intent being that you replay the whole thing again to see all of the branching routes (which don't even affect the ending). The problem is barely anyone replays their games nowadays unless they're really, really good, which SF0 isnt, hence the whole premiese falls flat on it's face.
>>338931641
I'll have to look into that. I don't know jack shit about wii u piracy.
>>338931684
I thought it was good, but not great. Definitely could've used more content. They had roadmaster all ready to go and never used it in any levels, and a full body version of Andross only used in one cutscene.
Controls took some getting used to but by the second playthrough I had it down pat.
>>338931951
Any retard can do it. It's idiotproof
>>>/vg/hbg
>>338927549
It was a decent cinematic experience, but an eh game
>>338928753
FFVII remake was always going to be episodic, it's a fucking huge game and has a lot more bespoke, tailored content than today's open world fests.
>>338931963
I thought the Co-Op was amazing. Probably the most fun way to play the game.
I feel like the game itself is just an alternate way to play 64. Not trying to outdo it or be a different game. 64 being one of my all time favorites, I felt like Zero was on par simply because it was the same game with some different stuff. Like it sucks that the forever train isn't in it, but then again I could just go back and play it on 64. Maybe I'm just easy to please.
>>338932346
Well Inever have anyone to play co-op with in games ;_;
>>338927549
Gimmicks are dead anon, accept it and move on.
>>338927549
I'd rather Star Fox die than become Miyamoto's personal bitch.
Good.
If your unnecessarily gimmicky game requires a delay to work out the issues with controls and on release day it still manages to turn off both casuals and the series' fans, it deserves to collect dust on store shelves.
Everyone was better off buying a copy of Star Fox 64 3D, another rehash of 64 except with optional gyro controls that didn't shit the bed and a multiplayer mode.
What's even sadder was that this shit was Nintendo's big title last E3. It was already a sad shitshow and with Iwata dying a month later it only makes this even more depressing.
Feels so good you will finally get to witness the end of Nintendo:
>Dead in the water in the home console space. Sony and MS to release incremental upgrades that put them far ahead of whatever the NX will be.
>Market share in mobile space being whittled down by smartphones, and Google/Apple haven't even BEGUN to systematize a mobile gaming strategy of their own.
>No VR plans. Samsung Galaxy Gear has already moved a million units despite being a proprietary headset and running shitty, basically alpha, first iteration technology and only the crest of the wave.
>New IPs cannot compete with major third-party multiplayer IPs like Overwatch.
God I cannot wait.
I've always thought Nintendo was shit. I've always thought OoT was overrated garbage, along with Mario. It's finally going to happen. I will live to see Nintendo go software only.
>>338932428
https://youtu.be/aJ-aPSpPYbU?t=50s
Playing the peppy level with a friend is so much like this.
>>338928357
Don't lump Sunshine and Double Dash with actually good games
>>338933058Dont fell for ez baits
>>338928585
>basically pleasing fans, showing progress, accepting criticism, etc?
Yeah, it's not like something crucial to the quality of the game like the group of characters you play as is being justly hated by everyone who isn't a dirty fujoshi.
>>338928136
Yeah the Gamecube is easily Nintendos worst.
>>338927549
This is what happens when you don't put Krystal.
>>338933365
Literally nobody cares about the opinions of Nintendo fans on Final Fantasy. Half of you haven't played a single title in the franchise other than the crap that occasionally washes up on Nintendo platforms now and again.
>>338932884
I wonder if people will ever get tired of saying this.
>b-but I have a good feeling about it this time!
wew
>>338933394
The eternal butthurt SF0 causes Krystalfags is the best part of it. Don't even care if it fails, it's worth it just for that.
>>338928235
>worst Mario Party
I'm legitimately curious about this, because 5 was really good.
>>338932884
> This is it! Nintendo is finished now!
Said anon for the millionth time.
>>338933505
>Literally no one cares about Final Faggotry.
FTFY
>>338933594
>If it held true once, it will hold true every time!
>>338933796
Nice wishful thinking. Keep hoping you'll replicate the Wii's success.
There is no way out of the hole Nintendo have dug for themselves. Some "blue ocean strategy" lol.
>>338933874
>second biggest MMO
>mainline franchise entries easily sell in excess of 7 million a pop
>tons of spin-offs that sell in excess of 1 million
>>338933918
> There is no way out of the hole Nintendo have dug for themselves.
Screencapping your comment for posterity.
>>338934063
The fact you think there is going to be this big resurgency with the NX is beautiful. It will make your tears that much more delicious.
Controls are convoluted as fuck. I never feel anything is unbeatable, just cheeseable after struggling for the lowest possible clear score. I want action, not super micro management.
>>338933918
Nintendo is a very efficient company. They've only been in the red ONCE in the 50 years since they went public. They even made a profit off the Wii U. Unlike Sony which lost $300 on every PS3 sold for 3 years causing billions in debt.
Sega only went third party after three failed console launches in a ROW. Nintendo isn't going anywhere as much as your shitposting wants them to. Not to mention they have enough cash from the Wii to last three console generations.
>>338934152
no one said anything about a big resurgance, but you're out of your mind if you think nintendo, with the fucking thousand places they have their fingers in the industry, will go bankrupt anytime soon
every month people are yelling nintendo is finished
there are too many smash and pokemon babies for nintendo to ever die out
if they need quick money they make a rehash mario or pokemon and they make a quick buck
>>338934019
You do know that's mediocre compared to what it used to pull, right?
>>338927549
>no new story to build upon the long-dormant star fox franchise
>unpleasant controls
>Platinum's influence seems reigned in more than usual.
>no gameplay depth or customization
>genuinely fun moments are too few and far between
Nintendo should have realized that having to recalibrate controls on the fly all the time isn't fun. We could have had
>online 4 player co-op lobbies where players take on levels as the entire star fox team.
>Arwing customization (+Speed +Power +Armor)
>8 player dogfight death match mode with Star Fox vs. Star Wolf
>Giant mech fights based project giant robot
>Cool menus that show off the great fox interior
>>338934726
You don't understand the concept of product ROI. A company pulling a gross profit doesn't justify significant investment of capital into developing new platforms with a dwindling market share.
It's dependent on the scale of their profit and what that profit is most contingent upon, if it's primarily software, then the platforms themselves and the associated costs (R&D, hardware outsourcing etc) are a loss in of themselves.
>>338927549
> People trade in used games
Holy shit this is news?
>>338931313
>Good game
>Bayonetta
>My mfw when
>>338935250
Final Fantasy VII (11.14 million)
Final Fantasy X (8.05–10 million)
Final Fantasy VIII (8.711 million)
Final Fantasy XIII (7.48 million)
gg nintendrone. The worst FF managed to be the fourth best selling in history, counting its sequels, which weren't significant cost-wise because of re-use of assets and so on, it pushed 20 million plus.
yeah let's keep buying shitty nintenautism games for a slim chance of good game ever happening again while nintendo is busy removing boobies from every single major 3ds/wiiu release instead
Good job Shiggy
>>338935756
nice downwards trend you got there
The masses nowadays don't care for a game like Star Fox, if the game is short they'd rather have cinematics/story than gameplay. Although shiggy dropped the ball hard with his innovation bullshit.
Even if the game was good though, if it was what Star Fox fans wanted, it still wouldn't have sold well because the masses don't care for games like these.
>>338936256
>downwards trend
>XIII outsold IX
>X outsold everything apart from VII
>>338928117
>Uncharted 4 is apparently the best game of the year so far.
you must not play many games
>>338927549
People do that with every game. Hell, I remember seeing piles of used copies of games like GTAV and Bloodborne at fucking gamestop.
Besides, you realize this mean jack shit? When they bought the game, they gave their money to Nintendo. By selling it, Nintendo doesn't lose a single cent.
>>338928308
People who work in those Amazon warehouses steal the games and sell them to Cex who unseal them and sell them for their normal preowned price.
Talk to anyone who works there and they'll tell you every launch week some chav looking fucker will sell them 12 copies of the same game sealed.
>>338936485
>13 outsold the least popular redheaded stepchild in the series
Also
>only 7mil sales for the first FF game that was truly multiplat and available on every platform
>only 7mil sales after such a gigantic marketing campaign
FF is dead.
I didn't even finish the game. I just lost interest. Couldn't even play it for more than an hour a day.
>[Wii U] Star Fox Zero / Star Fox Guard Double Pack (Nintendo, 04/21/16) – 17,114
>[Wii U] Star Fox Zero (Nintendo, 04/21/16) – 8,135
>[PS4] Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (SIE, 05/10/16) – 128,725
>>338936657
>FF is dead
Just like E3 is dead because Nintendo doesn't exhibit there anymore, amirite?
>>338937092
nah, but its clearly shit and pointless now.
three days of nothing but CoD and Assassins Creed.
>>338934726
And remember, them being in the red had NOTHING to do with the Wii U itself, but rather the investing in a lot of new businesses, including mobile and movie development, which will help them in the long run.
>Yfw you realize that the Pikmin shorts are BETTER than the Ratchet and Clank movie.
>>338928461
Didn't X/Y sell better than ORAS?
ORAS is also a piece of shit
>>338936532
Why are you such an autistic faggot?
This rarely happens with Nintendo games. Nintendo pride themselves on their "Evergreen" concept, which is that their games are always worth a high price even years after release and that they make games that people want to keep. Star Fox being sold used as much as it is will mean Nintendo will have to lower its price new.
This board is such shit. You guys are so incapable of being honest. I have more Wii U games than you do, I'm sure, and yet I'm not spouting baseless smokescreens against its criticism.
>>338937289
>pointless
Of course, Nintendo don't exhibit there anymore.
>>338927704
>Returned
>All of them are sealed
>>338937749
Well yeah. The only ones actually delivering anything.
All the good Sony games show up at TGS.
E3 is absolutely pointless now.
>>338936358
I'm curious how much time and money went into just making his stupid control scheme work anyway? They could have just focused on making a better game during the time wasted on the controls which would have made the fans happy at least. Still might not have sold as well as they wanted but it would have been better then what they got.
>>338935756
You just proved my point. You know that, right?
>Game gets returned month after release
This isn't news. Water is wet, grass is generally considered green, there's a large amount of people who return a game a few weeks after buying it because that's when it's worth the most.
i hear mixed things, but regardless i want to play through it at least once or twice. but im not spending $50 on such a game. maybe all these returned copies will translate into a $20 or so aftermarket price, which really is what it should sell for.
i dont get why the $60 or sometimes $50 pricetag for new video games is so set in stone. it should vary more based on content
>>338937835
>Well yeah. The only ones actually delivering anything.
Can't wait for Mario 137!
>>338937910
The worst FF game was the fourth best selling of all time.
>>338938072
But surely yet another Uncharted will tickle your fancy.
You fucking homo
>>338937872
It's really stupid, considering the reason Shiggy was put on it to begin with was specifically to make a game that would show how great the Gamepad is so they could hopefully sell more Wii Us.
Yet, the game comes out in the last year of the Wii Us life and the controls are cumbersome. I'm going to master them, because I think it'll be fun once I do, but they can't be used as a selling point the way the game is. I believe Miyamoto failed to meet the objective.
>>338928136
Epic
I refuse to support nintendo as much as i can, the most i would do is buy a nx to pirate newer games.
their policies and censorship is retarded
>>338938198
Uncharted does what it says on the tin. Four in nine years isn't excessive. How many Marios, Metroids and Zeldas have been released in that time? How many of them had the level of asset development each Uncharted game did?
>>338938351
How much of a hypocrite bastard do you have to be to selectively boycott Nintendo out of all the companies only?
>>338927549
I wonder how they'll blame Krystal for this.
>>338938484
Aren't they the only company still pushing region locks?
>>338938430
>actually defending uncharted
>>338938072
>worst FF game
Subjective. And again, still not pulling.
Additionally, is that counting XIII-2 and XIII-3? What do those look like?
>>338938484
That doesn't really make sense tho
>>338931558
I have a sealed copy because I found it new online for £22. I read the reviews but I loved the Snes game. Plus £22 is nothing. I'm not poor.
Buying a wiiu 3 weeks ago was a great decision. With the NX announced I have a wiiu with 10 games all for under £300
>>338938227
Splatoon was a better example of how useful the gamepad could be. Gyro controls are super useful in that game, and are a step towards making shooters work on console.
>>338930610
Hey this anime short is pretty cool
>>338935756
>10 Years of Lightning
The reason it sold so well is because it's all we had for 2 generations
>>338938624
It's a good third person action game. Have you even played any of them?
>>338938665
It is easily the worst received mainline FF ever released since the PS1 era.
And no, counting the sequels it pushes it up to 20 mil.
>>338938858
And all of the top three have been out for longer and have since received PC releases. What's the problem?
>>338937783
Do you even have eyes? They're just in some protective plastic bags cause Japan cares about its shit
>>338938553
Also the only company that doesnt charge for online.
Also the only company that doesnt charge 70€ per game.
Also the only company that allows legacy controllers without fucking with everything.
Also the only company that supports backwards compability without charging you out the ass.
Also the only company that still offers couch coop games.
Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
And its the only company that didnt fall victim to the mountain dew.
>>338938668
No it does. Everybody else is much worse so I dont get where those queers come from that ONLY do it against Nintendo as if they were Hitler.
>>338938430
all mario games share the name "mario" and likewise for zelda, yet the philosophy at nintendo is to always try to innovate and introduce new things or concepts. doesnt have to be groundbreaking, but just adding new gameplay elements or enemy types, control schema, etc. you can make jokes about how many 'new super mario bros' games there are, but they never feel repetitive and do new things.
uncharted meanwhile hasnt changed at all. its still just linear, forced tombraider copied wallclimbing shit, poor and generic 3rd person shooter gameplay, and cutscenes that take up most of the budget and production effort
>>338938484
Season passes
Charging $40 for a battery for the wii u pad, intentionally putting in a small capacity battery in a big housing
1 screen for the 2DS
Cheap screens, parts all around, self scratching screens on the 3DS
Price retention on old games
Charging extra for HD space between Wii U models (people were defending it saying it was SSD lol)
Having awful online
Creating games like Animal Crossing and Apps like Miitomo, and generqlly making mobile quality games, despite a big front on /v/ opposing mobile gaming
Microtransactions ala the badge arcade
But....
It is ok when Nintendo does it.
>>338938897
>ACTUALLY defending Uncharted
>>338927549
JUST
>>338928235
>>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
>hating on double dash
End your life.
>>338939076
Truly ebin shitpost.
Apparently its ONLY bad when Nintendo does it.
>>338939076
You pretty much have to buy more space for a PS4 too. Explain Sony not allowing people to use externals.
>>338938198
So people finished Star Fox and returned it. This is newsworthy. This makes Star Fox unlike every other game in existence now where teenagers and children get their parent to buy them a game and then return it for the next AAA flavor of the month. Wait . . .
I'm not saying Star Fox is perfect. It's obvious brevity could have been fixed with more levels, more paths, and online multiplayer. I enjoyed it for what it was and wish I was given more, but if the game is being returned then I'm struggling to see how this sets it apart from anything else these days.
>>338938985
>Everybody else is much worse
not really, Nintendo censors a lot of their games, they do region locking and their first party software has dropped very drastically in terms of quality. I'm an idort btw, I just dont feel the need to sugar coat Nintendos current situation however nor do I over exaggerate their short comings.
>>338938985
>Also the only company that doesnt charge 70€ per game.
Animal Crossing is a mobile-tier game and goes for $40 when new.
>Also the only company that supports backwards compability without charging you out the ass.
Because their iterative hardware cycles since the Wii have been underpowered as fuck, meaning they sell the hardware at a net profit.
>Also the only company that still offers couch coop games.
simply a lie.
>Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
>replace
A lie.
>And its the only company that didnt fall victim to the mountain dew.
Why do you care so much about marketing campaigns?
>>338939070
>try to innovate
Yeah sorry, new powerups are paradigm-shifting innovation at work.
In actuality, Mario has been more or less the same since the first 3d one, likewise with Zelda. There's nothing innovative about either of these franchises anymore.
>>338938985
>online
its online is shit though. people shittalk xbox live but it has been and is still the best overall online gaming platform in the console market. making something costs money surprisingly
>doesnt charge 70 per game
in japan its closer to that amount, but whereas a lot of companies will do 60 and gradually drop, nintendo still expects the full 50 for decade old games
>implying mountain dew isnt delicious
>>338939278
>not really
yes really.
>>338939230
The PS4 ships with a 500gb HDD as standard.
>>338939081
Again, what's fundamentally wrong with the game?
>>338939301
>its good because you pay for it
every time
>>338939373
>replying to shitposters
are you a moron or a falseflagger
>>338939296
>actually defending uncharted and expecting people to respond to your garbage wall of text
>>338939296
See, this is why I said " not necessarily groundbreaking". People like you hear terms like innovative and only think of things that must change the entire landscape of video games. it doesnt have to be that drastic or big deal of a thing.
the mario games and zelda games are always doing something new in their respective series. not necessarily new to the entire video game industry, but they are progressing and changing; evolving.
games like call of duty and uncharted and assassins creed, they dont evolve at all. its the same shit
>>338939423
It is a fundamentally superior online service to that of Nintendo, and I don't even own a One. Servers are better, download speeds are better, uptime is better, range and choice of games is better, online options within games are better (remember Splatoon at launch? that was an unfinished game).
>>338939373
500 GBs that can be used up pretty quickly due to that resource hogging application days. Still, explain Sony not allowing externals.
>>338928235
wind waker was the worst at the time but skyward sword is way worse
Star Fox belongs in the grave.
This franchise is only remarkable because of technology in the snes game and furries in the others regretably.
Good riddance. Worst nintendo IP.
>>338930345
>Xenoblade
But what if they're NOT a pedophile?
>>338939543
*data
>>338939514
So Uncharted is totally derivative, despite having comparable new in-game functionality... But Mario innovates significantly each time because Mario has a different suit?
lol.
>games like call of duty and uncharted and assassins creed, they dont evolve at all. its the same shit
CoD perhaps, but mainline AC titles create a fundamentally different open world with each title. The development work that goes into crafting the cities alone is more than is spent on probably all of a mainline Mario or Zelda release.
looks like i can get a good price very soon for the new star fox.
I don't care it didn't sell well. Space shooters are a arcade antiquated concept. there's a billion in existence, in many forms. It's not a seller concept anymore.
>>338939524
>Servers are better
>uptime is better, range and choice of games is better
Its all the same p2p garbage only that MS charges for it.
The majority of games dont even use dedicated servers.
>Game is split into 3 pieces
>Sold for double the price of a normal game
>Even more DLC coming out making it over $100
>True ending is DLC forcibly
>Content locked behind Amiibos
>fans gobble this up anyways
>some will dwfend these atrocious practices
>but it's ok when nintendo does it
Fire Emblem Fates, the game where you choose your fate on the store shelf :^)
>>338939678
Right? I bet the game will be going for under $20. Can't believe my friend was hounding me to pick up the game on release.
>>338939423
That's how the world works, son.
Quality is not free.
I urge you to try buying the cheaper store-brand toilet paper,cola,potato chips, etc and then try to convince me they are equal or better than their more expensive counterparts.
before you mistake the line of logic i am presenting, i am not stating that that higher price --> higher quality, But rather higher quality tends to imply higher price
Star Fox was always shit. Half of the nintenbabbies ITT have probably never even played X Wing vs. TIE fighter, or Freelancer.
>>338939730
Glad I pirated this shit.
It was clearly a jewish moneygrab scam by Nintendo
>>338928235
That's some real shit taste, anon.
>WW worse than SS
>Metroid Prime 2 worse than Other M
>Double Dash worse than MK Wii
>>338927549
It's a fine game, but the lack of content explains this. Throw in a GOOD multiplayer mode and a challenging difficulty and then people would keep their copies.
>>338933058
>Sunshine is bad
I don't get this meme
Are we being raided by Neogaf again?
Gotta shit on the competition to make people buy the PS4 NEO© after all
>>338939640
>but mainline AC titles create a fundamentally different open world with each title. The development work that goes into crafting the cities alone is more than is spent on probably all of a mainline Mario or Zelda release.
This is pure fucking bullshit.
Asscreed recycles fucking everything from game to game, animations assets, the ship model that Black Flag has as the Jackdaw has is in ACII. Even Watch Dogs has some clear AssCreed running animation recycling going on.
Don't care about Nintendo since I skipped the Wii U but AssCreed having effort behind them is a lie.
>>338939730
How is this different from Asura's Wrath and it's "buy the ending" DLC?
>>338939793
it doesn't have online so your friend nagging you was pretty pointless.
>>338939814
No the way the world works is that you get charged for peer to peer connections and retards like you actually defend it.
Microsoft are true evil masterminds.
The Wii U is hacked, what do you expect? I sold all my physical discs too
>>338939890
Clearly unfinished, homo Fludd garbage, generally fruity.
Not sure why you're all that surprised though, the reception for the game wasnt amazing back then either.
Pretty much the most "meh" people were towards any big Mario game.
There's obviously still people who like it, but most didnt.
>>338939897
>muh neofag boogieman
A shit game deserves to be called shit toddler
>>338938985
>Also the only company that doesnt charge for online
That's because it's stuck in 1999.
>allows legacy controllers
So? With other companies the controllers only have minor differences. Nintendo goes from controller to waggle stick to tablet.
>Also the only company that doesnt replace their current gen hardware two years into its lifecycle.
>GBA SP
>DSi
>DS Lite
>New 3DS
>>338939973
>Sony and Nintendo camps fighting each other when they should really be teaming up to fight Microsoft, who created the modern DLC model.
>>338940084
#4theplayers
>>338939640
>>338939901
Here I even have a webm of the jackdaw in ACII
>>338927549
Might as well trade it back in after you beat it. Get the highest price for it now rather than later.
There's almost nothing to do on the fucking thing after a couple of hours.
>>338939927
get shrekd
>>338927549
I also saw tons of used copies of Splatoon shortly after launch. And Bloodborne. How is this different?
Reminder that this is the highest rated game in the entire starfox series
>All these incoming flamewar bans ITT
Feels good.
>>338940105
Obviously everything new is better.
Like charging people for online when it was free in the past.
And you go and try to use your old arcade sticks on the PS4 or Xbox One.
Either they dont work period or they made it so convoluted that no tournament ever allows them.
So thats 200$ extra just because they put DRM on USB ports.
Your standard PS3 and 360 pads dont work either.
Again DRM ON USB
>>338939897
>b-b-but Sony
Classic Nintendork deflection.
>>338940249
Reminder that Paper Mario Sticker Star has a higher Metascore than Assault and Zero.
>>338940126
Adorable
You probably think this game is perfect and everyone who hates it comes from that site
>>338940359
Enjoy you ban.
>>338940249
fucking metacritic
>>338939831
Way to compare a game to two games that aren't even in the same genre.
>>338940276
A hugbox /v/ is just as bad
>>338927549
>people will defend miyamoto on this
not even the most brainwashed nintendo fanboy can do that.
But still i can see a lot of people defending him
>>338940435
Not really, no.
Stop shitposting you queer.
>>338940105
>That's because it's stuck in 1999.
So it's better to charge for online because it's the current thing to do?
>>338940435BURN IT ALL
>>338940435
there's a difference to saying you're wrong and being a flagrant faggot.
>>338939831
fuck let's not even leave Nintendo. Sin and Punishment and it's sequel Star Successor are still criminally underrated rail shooters.
>>338940435
Just admit you wanna shitpost without consequence.
>>338940395
#buyuncharted
>>338937441
Original Pokemon games have always sold better than third versions and remakes.
>>338928461
>ORAS outsold HGSS
Don't fucking remind me.
