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What is the best helmet in all of vidya and why is it the sallet?
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What is the best helmet in all of vidya and why is it the sallet?
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Because it's light, easy and comfortable to wear for long durations of time, and it provides respectable degree of vision and doesn't hinder breathing too much (in relation to (great)bascinets, armets and other contemporary helmet designs).
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>>338843995

I wasn't actually expecting a reply that actually would answer the question.

I was really just hoping to spark off some discussion about armors in video games, in general, but I guess my thread will 404 soon anyway.
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>>338844405
Sorry, I don't have my armor picture collection on this computer
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In addition to what the first anon said, it looks fashionable as fuck
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Sallets are fucking sexy. Find me a better helmet.
You can't.
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>sallet
>best hat
You are wrong.
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>not Elite Knight/this similar style that I forget the name of
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>>338845576
I think that's armet
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Anyone know if there are any helmets like pic related?
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>>338843513
The sallet looks really good and offers respectable protection for it's comfort. But pic related, despite looking like utter shit, is a very well designed helmet.
The beak deflects thrusting strikes to the face, the upper point deflects vertical strikes, it offers admirable vision without sacrificing defense, and it's not as cumbersome.
That said you look like an idiot unlike the sallet which makes you look kewl.
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this to be frank
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>>338846335
>dude where'd my chin go: the armor
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>>338846248
There aren't enough bascinet helmets in vidya.
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>>338846248
>it offers admirable vision
u wot
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>>338846248
The advantage I see this helmet has over the sallet is that the latter requires massive gorgets to protect the lower head.
The beakie can be worn with normal breastplates. They both offer similar protection if worn with the proper set.
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>>338843513
Because you can get stabbed upward into the skull if you wear it
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>>338846152
Here it is i found it
>>338846463
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>>338846335
Thats a frog-mouth helmet, it's meant for jousting.
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>>338846516
The holes on the beak are actually pretty good holes to see through. You won't be sniping with it, but it's good enough to see your immediate surrounding.
Most "breathing holes" in helmets serve as seeing holes too.
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Viking helmet. Always gives an attack boost.
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>>338846543
You usually wear sallets with massive fucking gorgets (neck protection) that basically covers the vulnerable part. This offers great protection but poor visibility since you can't see what's immediately under you.
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>>338846809
Viking helmets didn't have horns.
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>>338847035
In vidya they do. Always.
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>>338846809
>Be viking
>Olaf "invented" a new design on helmetals.
>Basically stuck horns on a normal helmet.
>Wear helmet on raid to make Olaf happy.
>Damn Anglos grabbed the horns and hacked my head off.
>Now waiting for mead in Valhalla.
>Thank based Olaf.
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Kettle hat is a timeless classic, but sadly not in vidya that much.
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>>338846335
Only SMT characters can wear this.
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>>338846809
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>>338846248
Nigga the bascinet is the shittest in term of seeing out of it, especially with the pig visor
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>>338847105
>Jobbing to Anglos

Literally fat unarmed baldies. Come back after you've been a Varangian guard.
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>tfw almost all the armor in dks3 looks like rancid ass
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out of question, the Roman general helmet is hands down the best helmet of all, nothing says better you destroy and annihilate barbaric hordes patrician-style than this

If you don't agree you are either a barbarian mongoloid or a pleb
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>>338847125
Kettle hat + Mail is the best Armor combo.
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Alright, here you go.
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What are game that I can wear a bunch of cool helmets
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>>338847314
zis is ottoman helmet, rite?
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>>338846620
they're for mounted lancers in general, they keep your neck from getting broken if you deflect an attack to your head while charging. They weren't just used for sport.
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>>338847480
What was the purpose of the rooster do on the top?
Did it have a practical application?
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>>338843995
Bascinets aren't really comparable to sallets, sallets were used when bascinets fell out of favour because they were considered inferior. Different time period, different needs, usually lower quality metal.

You can't compare armour/weapons that have about 200 between their respective developments.
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>>338847813
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster-tailed_pot_helmet
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>>338847856
Rank.
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>>338846248
looking like you don't give a single fuck is a discrete advantage in battle. Nobody respects the edgelord who has a scary face on his helmet, only japanese people think that's cool and they have shit taste.
I wish there was a bascinet helm in dark souls 3, there isn't enough stupid fashion to make you look like you don't give a fuck, so all that's left is trying to either look like a badass, or a cute waifu
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>>338847802
Dark Souls
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>>338847856
Yeah, so you could see where your commander was during a battle. Unfortunately also works well for the enemy as they can also spot the officers very easily.
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>>338847856
beacause look classy as fuck

AFAIK is ornamental only

sometimes to know where your officer where in battle, or to look taller and bigger than you were
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>>338848064
Are you retarded? Morale is everything in combat. You don't think it's common that more than 10% of the combatants actually fight to the death, do you?
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>>338847125
>Kettle hat is a timeless classic, but sadly not in vidya that much.

Demon Souls foot soldiers in the castle wear it.

You can't however. Only female Plate Armor is kettle hat. So you have to be a chick to wear it in game.

It's never re-appeared in Souls games.
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>>338843513
The sight (at least to me) seems kinda shit, but that's covered by the opening face plate.

That tour-de-francey flap on the back seems quite shit for H2H, though
>implying hand to hand happens
OK, it's called a mellée. I still think the back cover would be more comfy to get chain mail.

Is the lower part on the face? That'd probably burn in the sun.
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>>338845429
I'd love me a bucket helmet (not really that good in battle, but it makes me want to shout Deus vult)
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>>338848259
>being intimidated by transparent attempts at intimidation
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>>338848064
>I wish there was a bascinet helm in dark souls 3

Hodrick's helm is pretty much a bascinet.
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>>338848064
>people of Old weren't superstisious as fuck

you could say them some dude was a god and they ACTUALLY believe them, watching a savage dude wearing a fucking scary mask hacking and slashing husbway through your friends would definitely impact your moral
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>>338847409
Vikings always lost when they actually had to face an professional army
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>>338845576
>those knobs on the right side of the helmet
That'd catch more blows and kill the usefulness. Body follows the head. Or am I wrong?
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>>338846236
Probably not, the shape is mostly ornamental and it restrics vision a lot. May be based off a real life helmet, but probably wasn't made for combat.
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>>338848432
>Not shitting your peasant pants when you realize you're fighting trained Samurai
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>>338846335
That just looks dumb, not even cool dumb, just dumb
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>>338848469
Which is why they were eventually conquered like the germans, romans, brits, franks, iberians and slavs.

Oh wait.
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>>338845576
>>338845839
The style of helmet is usually either an armet or a close helmet. Which it is exactly depends on the opening mechanism. An armet opens laterally, while a close helmet (a later design) is hinged at the visor. Also, the bevor in an armet was usually a chinstrap that would come as a separate part, while in the close helmet the bevor was an integral part of the helmet. A further development from that point would be the Mantelhelm, which also integrated the gorget into the helmet.

Here we have an armet one can see the lateral joints near the visor hinges and see how it would open sideways if one looked at it from the front.

The armet and later close helmet was essentially an Italian design, but not exclusively popular in Italy. The suit in >>338845576 for example was made in Nuremberg by Kunz Lochner. There also were armets and close helmet with different visors, e.g. the bellows visors which were commonly worn with Maximilian style armour.
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>>338848594

Samurai were good warriors but I don't think they trained in grappling martial arts so a knight decked in steel armor that stands a head taller would wreck a samurai up close.
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>>338848480
The knobs are for arrows afaik, if an arrow hits the helmet and doesn't immediately deflect it moves towards the knob and deflects after that instead of moving towards your throat/neck.
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>>338848750
For comparison, here we have a close helmet. One can see that the opening mechanism is hinged at the visor. You open the whole helmet just like you can raise the visor. And you don't need to strap an extra defence around your neck because it became an integral part.
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>>338848842
Samurai used firearms. A knight wouldn't even get within melee distance.
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>>338848594
>regaining all of your morale after he hits your pitchfork and his sword breaks
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>>338848842
>I rate European smithing versus Oriental smithing
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>>338848842

>Samurai vs. Knights again

Apples vs. Oranges. Samurai exist in a place with little Iron, so their entire battle strategies and weapon revolve around that. The Euros have better armor and weapons because of better access to Iron. Neither armor/weapons are better or worse, they're just adapted to their environment.
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>>338848690
They "conquered" none of those
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>>338848981
Here we have a similar sort of helmet in Maximilian style with a bellows visor. This too is a Mantelhelm style close helmet, which also includes an elaborate gorget.
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>>338848594
>trained
The samurai were basically slavers, given a whip and told to go to town. I see the scary face mask as the last drop that makes you poop your legs down to the sabatons

>Be peasant
>bamboo forest
>uprising today
>fucking island
>fucking fog everywhere
>stand there
>sweat
>suddenly thunder
>distant, slow thunder
>fuckin' ell, is it really going to rain?
>thunder comes faster
>hear voices
>shouting, laughing and roaring
>fucking Takeshi's squad got drunk again or something
>NottoDisuShitoAgen.katana
>Suddenly see silhouettes
>moving forward
>Takeshi, you cunt
>It's not Takeshi
>Suddenly shadows start running
>Heads are strange
>Horns
>laughing devils
>devils everywhere
>shit me pants
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>>338849176
And here we have an armet in a similar style.
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>>338849009
They'd run. People feared the might of the Samurai.

Ultimately the Samurai were very good at keeping order through fear since it's sort of a fruitless endeavor to kill all your subjects whenever they make a fuss. This is why Japan had relatively few rebellions, but a lot of civil wars.
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>>338848663
It's based off a real life helmet but they made it too thin.
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>>338849060
>>338849081

Why are you faggots putting words in my mouth? Japanese armor was good, a samurai would lose because his opponent is bigger, heavier, and trained to pin them to the ground and stab them to death by half-swording or with a dagger.
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>>338849008
>Implying knights didn't use firearms by this time period
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>>338846236
Anon, are you still here?
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>>338847856
You use it to brush your armor off after battle
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>>338848919
Seems right
>arrows, look left
>most swordsmen are right-handed

Makes sense. Still, lefties existed...
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>>338847802
Mount and Blade
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>>338849294
lol
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>>338843513
the best helm is void melee helm with elite void from runescape
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>>338849343
Yeah, but the one in-game is far too thine
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>>338849501

How are you supposed to see anything with that on your head?
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>>338849343
>what are arrows in eyes
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>>338849501
Yes, thank you anon. Looks a lot like the Cainhurst helm from Bloodborne, but I am assuming that both are ornamental
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>>338849060
You can't get a better feel than a bucket helm and chain mail.
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>>338849008
Knights were already in decline more than a century before Samurai started using firearms.
>>338849081
Different time periods too
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>>338849638
They weren't used on the battlefield, these were tournament only
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Bucket helms are pure sex
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>>338849617
The bitch's head is not on your nose, I think it's like a baseball cap. Left part close to neck, right part goes up.
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>>338849638
if someone actually managed to land an arrow in there I'd be more impressed than anything else
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>>338849008
Heavy cavalry remained a thing into the 20th century.
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>>338849725
It's a shame they're so fucking shit. 1 mace strike on the top of that head and it's gone.
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>>338849436

I think knights got even more typecast as mounted heavy cavalry with the advent of firearms. You'd have lines of lightly armored peasants exchanging volleys and then knights would charge in during the delay. Samurai actually used fire-arms and bows mounted.
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>>338849714
>what are lances in eyes
Point taken, for tournaments these are pretty nice.
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>>338849617
>using eyes

Those helmets are made for necro dark knights mate.
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>>338849725
>Get hit from above
>neck suddenly doesn't want to live anymore
They do look cool though
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>>338849081
This

>>338849407
>>338848842
You're assuming he'd lose on the sole basis of being slightly shorter and for some reason not as heavy. I don't think you know how this works. The Samurai were trained in martial arts too. It'd work out very differently from how you imagine.

>>338849501
>looking hardcore for the bois
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>>338849436
>>338849678
>>338849782
You're thinking about dragoons and cavalry. Knights stopped being a thing long before that and every guy on a horse isn't a knight.
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>>338849501
Well that's pretty spooky. Any other fucking terrifying helmets you got Anon?
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>>338849501
how the fuck you see out of that
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>>338849725

>bonks you on the head

What happens when you get bonked on the head? That force goes down. Right on your head and neck.

Pointed or curved top helments are superior since it deflects the force, reducing what your head/neck has to deal with.

>>338849785

They used them for centuries. No clue why. My guess is that a direct hit from above is pretty rare, and the other benefits of it outweigh the negatives.
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>>338849837
That's what the shape is for, before impact the pointed the thing up, to look forward you had to move the head down
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>>338849768
A salvo and a bit of bad luck. From the salvo angle (approx 30 degrees downward towards you) it's a bigger hole than straight forward. It's like catching acid rain with your tongue.
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>>338849725
Looks stupid
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>>338849837
>what are lances in eyes
Doesn't really happen with lances used in the type of tournament where the frogmouth helmet (Stechhelm) was used. They gave this quite a bit of thought.
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>>338849967
get out ahmed
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>>338847480
>Roman general helmet
>not signifer
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>>338849945
I understand that, thank you. I'm actually impressed that /v/ can talk about this stuff.

>I watched the Knight's Tale
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>>338849907
It was used by the Jedis in the Hyper War

They used the force
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>>338849725
this is objectively the best closed helmet of all
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This, Roman or Corinthian
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>>338849896
I was thinking about Cuirassiers. And from whom do you think did those recruit from if not from the knightly families?

Not to mention that during the 16th century, knights were still a thing.
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>>338850007
>Stechhelm
NOW it's clear. Literally stab helmet.
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>>338850137
I like the flat-head bucket more.
>I know it's shit, but it's still beautiful
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>>338850043
back to the line, scum!
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>>338850135
>Accidentally win a victory against vastly inferior enemies
>LOL DEUS VULT GUYS
>Kill a bunch of Christians in Jerusalem
>BTFO by muslims
>Fail at another crusade
>Finally get fed up with losing and crusade other Christians for loot, leaving them vulnerable to the muslims
>Muslims successfully invade Europe for 300 years
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>>338850337
DELETE THIS
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>>338850337
They invaded Europe before the first crusade
>implying my comment is in any way connected to your post.
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>>338850228
Stechhelm stems from the name of the tournament discipline called 'Gestech' or 'Stechen', also called the 'joust of peace'.

Here the goal was to break the lance on your opponent's armour or unhorse your opponent.

Heavy armour was used here and the lances were solid wood, tipped with steel coronets.
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>>338850323
I know. A E S T H E T I C first in vidya. Great Helm in M&B all day, every day.
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>>338850021
>wanting to get killed because the enemy's blow didn't glance off the top of your helmet because you're too focused on fashion
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>>338849897
My whole helmet and armor folder is on another device, but I got some on my phone that.
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>>338850502
I just want to be Solaire...
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>>338850458
>Bunch of shitty tribes sit around throwing rocks at each other
>DUDE ISLAM LMAO
>Conquer all their neighbors
>Conquer Arabia
>Conquer Persia
>Conquer Iberia
>Conquer large parts of France

Now that's how you do a motherfucking holy war
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>>338850323
>I like the flat-head bucket more.

My mace loves those too. One hit and your neck is broken
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>>338850586
>violently invade France
>Europe
>Sweden
>#NotAllMuslims

I think religious persecution is granted, innit?
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>>338849916
>They used them for centuries. No clue why. My guess is that a direct hit from above is pretty rare, and the other benefits of it outweigh the negatives.
Presumably, they were very well aware of the disadvantages as the more rounded helmets existed alongside the typical crusader helmets and yet the latter still didn't fall out of use.
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>>338850463
In contrast we have the 'joust of war', also called 'Rennen' or 'Carrière'; ("race").

In the joust of war, regular field armour was used, reinforced with a thick wooden shield ('Renntartsche', "racing targe"). The goal was to unhorse your opponent or to pierce the targe and lift it from its mount. Regular war tips were used here, which made the whole thing rather dangerous.

Due to the fact that knights could participate with their regular field armour rather than the thick armour required for the joust of peace, this was particularly popular among poorer knights who couldn't afford the expensive equipment.
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>>338850596
I'd probably wear it on special occasions.
>not being the war hammer master race
Git gud, knave
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>>338850687
Catholicism was the Islam of those days, burning people alive for not flaying themselves every day while the muslims couldn't be arsed with heathens and just taxed them.
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>>338849172
>Not knowing the prototypical Russian rulers were vikings
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>>338850687
>violently invade
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>knight vs samurai
>people thinking the knight would win

Fucking hell, /v/ is so obsessed with looking like anti-weebs that they ignore logic and history. Let's take a look

Samurai:
>Masterfully crafted daito, which he trains with every day
>Tons of experience wandering the land and helping villagers on his way
>Mind and soul calm and ready, meditiation and following bushido helps this immensely
>Terrifying armour that strikes fear in to the hearts of his enemies

Knight:
>Inferior sword, (only ONE) used ungracefully with bashing motions
>Christian, lives in fear of his terrible god and has an unrestful, churning soul which distracts him from battle
>Clunky, laughable armour that makes him slow (how will he be able to roll in combat?)
>Drunk, unfocused
>Only upside is maybe a shield, but katana would slice through it in one slash

Samurai would clearly win, looking at it from an objective standpoint. I don't see how a knight could beat me.
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More like:

>Violent as fuck mudslime savages keep invading.
>Finally get fed up and fight back
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>>338850824
SHUT UP
STOP IT NOW
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>>338850824
>>338850824
True. But we did a step forward, we managed to separate state and church centuries ago. They still want to reign with religion
>Catholics so backwards, maaaaan.
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>>338850862
>violent as fuck Catholics keep invading
>finally get up and fight back
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>>338850846
>Clunky, laughable armour that makes him slow (how will he be able to roll in combat?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q
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>>338850846
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>>338850846
>I don't see how a knight could beat me.
>me
Go home Ching-Chong, you drank too much sake.
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>>338850596
Explain to a dumbass pls
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>>338850974
>We

You mean the Lutherans. Whom you burned for not flaying themselves hard enough. And who kicked your ass because of protestant work ethics.
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>>338849916
>They used them for centuries. No clue why. My guess is that a direct hit from above is pretty rare, and the other benefits of it outweigh the negatives.

They actually modified this sort of helmet. It became more conical over time to allow for better deflection. Also, the helmet became much larger, turning into the great helm, to allow for a smaller skullcap bascinet to be worn underneath. They'd wear the great helm for the initial charge, then take it off while in melee combat in order to breath and see better. The great helm would be tied with a chain or strap to their armour and could be worn on their back like a backpack.
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>>338850974
>implying that Catholics weren't fucking forced to become irrelevant

They didn't do it by choice, they fucking fought tooth and nail to hold on to some power.
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>>338850846
>Samurai would clearly win, looking at it from an objective standpoint. I don't see how a knight could beat me.
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>>338851035
>arguing seriously with an obvious joke post
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Knigga reporting...
Is this an armor thread afoot?
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>>338851190
Black Knight
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>>338851190
also sallet is best helmet unless you are some type of slavshit kettle cuck
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does anyone know of a fantasy helmet that doesn't look blatantly a copy from a real world helmet that still retain some degree of functionality (read this as if someone would actually wear it)?
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>>338850846

I know you're joking, or using some copy pasta. But real world battles are mostly fought with spears, lances and bows. The Samurai's main weapon for most of their history was... the bow. And then the gun.

The Japanese did the same. Their weapons and armor are based around a low level of Iron. The katanas are kinda flimsy thin curved swords. They were used mostly as status symbols and self-protection. A katana is great at slicing a peasant in half. Not so good at using against an armored opponent.

Bushido also was mostly formulated after peace was established. It's a romanticized view of Samurai. Real world they could be as ruthless and untrust worthy as anyone else.
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>>338850846
>I don't see how a knight could beat me.
Samurai wore Kabuto helmet, not fedoras
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though a visored sugarloaf is the best for killing infidels

Deus Vult
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>>338850803
Forgot my pic.
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>>338851190
>Man of age
>Playing with suits
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>>338851290
>shitting on slavs
You gonna get hussaria'd on, kraut
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>>338850846
>Samurai
>thick-bladed sword that wouldn't do JACK SHIT to proper steel armor
>wooden, bamboo and leather armor, fruity colourful kimono underneath
>only two settings: Chop peasant & don't chop peasant
>no stabbing because point of contact isn't behind the point you hold half the time

>Knight
>zweihänder that's thinner, cheaper and more useful
>dagger at hip
>stabs
>cuts
>head is protected
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why would anyone want to be a knight when archers were clearly MVP of the battle field?

>muh glorious 1v1
>not having the most killing blows
>not truely winning the fight
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>>338851525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Patay
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>>338851103
>Explain to a dumbass pls

A curved top deflects the force partially outwards. So there is a real reduction in the amount of damage to a curved top helment when hit from above.

A flat top has no protection from blows from above. The force is directed directly down on your neck and head. So enjoy your broken neck.
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>>338843513
I agree. Sallet in spiral knights was great.
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>>338851184
I knew it was a joke, I just like that video and had an excuse to post it
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>>338851105
Show me a state where the bible is the constitution.
>Vatican
My point is, we have non-religious legislation
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I have always wondered.
Obviously people will say that you should wear a helmet to protect you from all kinds of harm from different directions.
But it seems to me like it would dull your senses too.

You can´t see shit.
Except for the thin slits, or holes here and there, you should be able to see with your eye corners despite being mostly blind except for the spot you´re looking at without a helmet, for that extra bit of spatial recognition.

Your hearing gets deafened.
You can´t anticipate the direction anymore, and even then when you get hit, the metal can generate a loud sharp noise which can deafen your ears even more.

Smell also gets limited for a bit i guess.
It would be handy to smell something flammable or rotten beforehand.

As for touch.
A helmet isn´t really comfortable either. It has weight to it, will probably store up heat and sweat as well, aside from constantly feeling your breath bounce back in your mouth.

Not even trying to bait, i just want to understand if wearing a helmet is that much more important instead of something simpler like a head-guard or even nothing.
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Vidya armor thread?
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>>338851035
>those last three

I was going to make fun of them for being crude but it works, just fucking show the cunt.
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>>338843995
>Because it's light, easy and comfortable to wear
I LIKE SHORTS
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>>338851593
>losing so bad they needed a GIRL TO WIN
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>>338851519
>knight
>Zweihänder
Spotted the souls babby.
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Rolling nigga
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>>338851490
>not playing in suits of armor with full contact rattan and live steel

its like you dont even want the fair maidens to drop their wimples at the very sight of your resplendent armor
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>>338851519
>>zweihänder that's thinner, cheaper and more useful

Zweihanders were niche weapons for specific uses. Normal soldiers aren't running around with them. We don't know why they were used. Manuals seem to focus a lot on figure eight movements. We think they may be used for cutting through pikemen formations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiD3cI3RqJU
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>>338851429
>that dinner plate shield
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>>338851429
what's going on with the bucket, anon?

>>338851371
shameless self bump
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Friendly reminder that the Crusades were both justified and successful.
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>>338851767
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>>338851708
>we
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>>338847563
>spider helmet

eh?
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>>338851708
No thanks to catholics, who were forced to sign the humiliating treaty of westphalia after fighting secularization for 30 years.
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>>338851763
lmao, as a typical footsoldier it wouldn't be strange to receive a couple dozen arrows to the body & head before even getting into melee range (see: Agincourt, the majority of man-at-arms on the French side were actually captured, not killed, because their heavy armours couldn't be penetrated by arrows alone).
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>>338851873
>wuz
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>>338851775
I like how fights between two heavy armored guys on foot usually devolves to just trying to wrestle each other to the ground. I wish there was a game that had this.
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>>338851941
YUROPE ND SHIIET
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>>338851805
So what should he use? Who's got the cash for a two-hander other than the knight?

>I play a spear-weilding dex build, thanks for asking.
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>>338851880
It later evolved into the australian cork hat.
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>>338851854
They were justified, but they worked reasonably well is because coincidentally the Mongols conquered several powerful Muslim countries at about the same time.
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>>338851872
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>>338851896
Of course not,not saying that. It was protestants. But show me how Shiite are better than Sunnis.
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>>338851763
knights were the upper class. They were terrified of hails of arrows and wanted to encase themselves in steel. And it did hamper them. You can't see shit, you can't hear shit, people can't really hear you, your breath condenses in the helm and it's generally horribly uncomfortable. They didn't have it because it was the armor provided for war, they had it because they were rich enough to buy it and wanted to feel safe on the battlefield. Plate armor that allows practical levels of mobility and vision didn't arise until the late medieval period, until then being in full armor meant the only move you can do in a fight is charge with a lance.
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>>338851941
>caliphz
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>>338851997
A longsword maybe?
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>>338851845
its a buckler, only real men use it, its the one true way and sometimes better than using a full size shield

>>338851848
wanted to make a crusader era kit so i got a visored sugarloaf helm
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>>338852059
Gonna be dropping alot of Souls concept arts
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>>338851997
normal swords weren't that expensive.
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>>338851815
Howen manyeth wives hast thou stolen from yonderest husbands todayeth ser Tyrone?
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>>338852224
>using a shield at all
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>>338852229
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>>338851815
You're the best knigga
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>>338851371
Game of throne has some p gud hats.
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>>338852431
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>>338851845
You know how common bucklers were on battlefields in which not as many soldiers had full armor on?
Shields are also viable weapons, which is correctly represented in the Souls games. Catch someone's incoming swing with your own sword and redirect it, then bash a vital part of the enemy's body with the edge or ball of the buckler. You'll probably break a wrist and disable them or if you hit their head they'll be mildly stunned enough for you to finish them off.
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>>338851818
Two-handed swords were usually used by elite mercenaries, who also received double the pay for it. In civilian times they were commonly found in the arsenal of personal guards, and they were employed to guard artillery. When it comes to the cutting off pikes part there's a bit of doubt, but they definitely also found their way into 16th century pike formations. Whether they cut off the enemy pikes or just protected the flanks is questionable though.

In general, these weapons shouldn't be underestimated. They were fierce duelling weapons, as they essentially combined the advantages of a pole-arm and a sword in one weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu4B-16SEls
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>>338852523

The best.
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>>338852273
>normal swords weren't that expensive.
this

an english archer during the hundred years war would get 12 crowns per day as payment.

the average sword cost was 3-5 for a new sword. So an archer could literally buy a new sword every day.
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>>338852523
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>>338851815
Love the suits.
Can't stand the wallpaper.
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>>338852606
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>>338843513
my friend made a meme out of this within our group by pronouncing it "sal-lay"
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>>338852579
AY SIMWAE
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>>338852606
Thanks for reminding me that I can't have Alonne shoulders in DS3.
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>>338852523
>helmet opens from the side
>when patches is disguised as siegward and reveals himself after trapping and tricking you, he just takes the entire helmet off somehow instead of opening up the little side hatch so you can see his face
FUCK YOU FROMSOFT
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>>338852712
>Dank Meme Sword

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>338852712
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>>338852606
>Samurai
>Knights
>Samurai Knights
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>>338851035

>Guy takes sword swings to the chest like a champ because that was the point of armor
>Miyazaki, being the fucking hack that he is, has a fetish for stunlocks in his Souls games so even a dagger stuns you while you wear armor

Don't even give me that pvp bullshit argument. Souls games aren't fighting games, they never were about pvp so go fuck yourself. There isn't a worse feeling than the one you get when you realize cool armor in a game does jack-fucking-shit.
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>>338850548
>filename
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>>338852553
>cutting off pikes
>Whether they cut off the enemy pikes

Not cutting off pikes, but cutting into their formations. Deflecting the pikes, opening them up for attack.

>muh duels

Irrelevant for warfare.
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>>338852795
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>>338852795
>fuck you kevin stop showin evryone my fuckin deviantart you peace of shit
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>>338852902
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>>338852885
>Irrelevant for warfare.
Not irrelevant at all when you're hired as someone's personal guard.
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>>338852301
Only one maiden has captured my heart.

>>338852459
thanks man appreciated sincerly

>>338852579
Best helm here, having a lion face or an eagle face is like they must be courageous but a bespectacled horned demon face? Whoever wore wore that must have just been batshit on the battlefield.
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>>338852992
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>>338852992
why does fromsoft have a fetish with boots that look like bare feet?
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>you realise Henry VIII was /fa/ as fuck
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>>338853074
I'm still mad about the fucking masks
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>>338853074
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was the era of pike and shot the most A E S T H E T I C time in all of man?
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>>338847856
So Asterix and Obelix know who to thump first.
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>>338853074
the final mask is way better than that edgelord trash
>>338853136
if they were going to have an edgy porcelain mask they should have made it just look like ciaran's
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>>338852596
And I'm going to assume that you got what you pay for.
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>>338852712
Culturally, how would this armour be received if it was real in whatever time period you think suits it best?
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>>338853183
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>>338853183
Best armor.
Would be perfect without the stupid thingy on the helm.
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>>338853005
>Whoever wore wore that must have just been batshit on the battlefield.
It was a gift of Emperor Maximilian I to Henry VIII. So if it was worn, it was worn by Henry VIII. It was likely meant to be costume armour though - although functional enough to be protective, it wasn't to be worn at battlefields.
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>>338853183
>the decorative chains mimic the ones on gwyndolin's dress
I never noticed that until now
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>>338853227
The difference between cheap sword and an expensive one is in the decorations. You can only make steel so sharp.
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>>338853276
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>>338853227
yes video related.
they were re purposed broken swords and other random metals and were pretty much throw away weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy1fcRG0A3g
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>>338852716
Goddamn I heard it.
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>>338853108

They know /v/ has a foot fetish
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>>338853381
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>>338853005
>Ser Tyrone has a family that he hasn't abandoned

YOU TRULY ARE A KNIG OF GREAT VIRTUE, MAY YOU FIND CONQUEST AND FORTUNE WHEREEVER YOU GO
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>>338853186
>Cannons, firearms, and fully armored knights on the battlefield.

Truly the most glorious era of warfare.
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>>338853465
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>>338853370
It's not about sharpness, it's about durability.
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>>338851429
Are bucklers really that tiny?
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>>338852606
These idiots never wanted to drop their helmets for me.
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>>338853238
My guess would be late 15th or 16th century
and people of the middle ages had a different sense of humor, they would put dicks on their armor and engravings of demons fucking.

They would literally put a nutsack on the back handle of a dagger making it look like a cock.

I think it would be received well enough and its similiar to maximillian style armors.
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>>338853573
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