post things that gives /v/ PTSD.
>confuse ray sound effect
>the blitz air raid siren of a low HP alarm
still suspect that pokemon was a japanese plot to mentally destabilize western children before they reached enlistment age
>>338809534
fucking hated that place. that was ymir forest right? I enjoyed the music at least.
>>338809534
Could've been worse. Game could've had random encounters.
>>338810184
Don't forget Gen 1 hyper beam
>>338809534
fuck you op
>>338810846
yeah, you needed to find a fruit that was hidden deep down in the damn forest
>>338810184
if that were true, they would have showed the Porygon episode.
>Enter room
>light go out
>"Screeeeee!"
>this starts playing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMKsBBu90Q
>>338810846
you had to complete a fucking rube goldberg machine of fish, boars, petals and other assorted shit just to get some damn fruit
>>338809534
Symphonia really had a bunch of these for me. Not difficult or anything, just really annoying busywork.
>Can't just walk right by the kid or push him aside
He isn't even taking up the whole bridge, walk around him.
>PTSD mode: Activate
DUB DUB?
>>338809534
>sheena dosent use uindine to pick the fruit up from the water.
>>338811609
arent all rpgs like this
>>338811708
That's the power of RPG roadblocks
>>338811708
to be fair, you also need a good word to get into the village and kid helps you with that.
>>338811609
Oh, fuck, this. OP didn't bother me.
>>338811123
This part really wasn't that hard. Now, chapter 14, when they start throwing huge groups of enemies with giant HP pools and crazy deadly attacks in extremely tight spaces at you in every single room, that was hard.
>>338811851
With Tales series it's a more an example of Symphonia being the last title that gave a fuck about dungeons even if they were annoying sometimes.
>>338811708
zelos had the right idea.
>>338811925
no he dosent. the kings latter was more than enough to get inside.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4dyP4LDMLG4
>>338811504
you rang?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wSFjR9TMQ
>>338811576
>>338811447
Yeah I am starting to remember it even more now even with guiding the fish, boar trunks and w/e else. Fuck that kid get your own damn fruit, don't go into a dangerous area in the first place if you're not willing to go get it yourself. My PTSD is backtracking several times in a dungeon or a NPC blocking the road with a fetch quest and the MC agrees to it instead of going right past him.
>>338811609
That was also another annoying level. That was the latheon gorge with the wind plants if I remember correctly. I preferred the temples and the areas where you find skull dancer overall. Also Derris Kharlan and Mithos Castle was pretty cool with the BGM and monsters.
>>338812043
That's definitely the hardest part on zenith tho. Fuck this shite.
>>338812079
I think I remember this one. I hated it
It did for me
![jimwaterlevelsucks[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T7AVhl8.jpg "jimwaterlevelsucks[1].jpg")
also the dog escort level.
>>338809534
>>338809534
I'll never forget this shit.
>>338809534
>>338811559
They were fucking terrifying, especially if you first saw them in an area you had already cleared like the great tree
>>338814218
thats a picture of the first iteration of the fade, but I assume you mean the second considering the first is piss easy and actually pretty interesting
>>338814218
im thinking of replaying the game. im so gonna download the mod that skips this.
>>338814218
don't make me go back
>>338809534
Doorbells
>>338814218
Deep Roads were 10000% worse.
>>338813519
This guy was faster than anyone his age has a right to be
>>338811720
Good taste in vidya, anon.
>>338813519
>He doesn't know about the tilted camera trick
>>338812079
>Play Symphonia
>Overjoyed at the heavy presence of puzzles in dungeons and enjoyed nearly every one
>Play other Tales games after
>Dungeon puzzles are insultingly simple (Graces) or entirely gone and replaced with corridors (Xillia)
>Go to /v/ to talk about the sharp decline in dungeon design
>Endless bitching about how they hated Symphonia's puzzles
I will never understand. But I guess that's why they're gone.
>>338815317
my bother! while Symphonia's puzzles could get annoying, it was a good distraction for killing time.
if i could chose puzzles over corridors, i pick puzzles.
the kingdom hearts low health sound. it just makes me fucking angry.
>>338811334
FUCKING REACH OUT FOR THE FRUIT
YOU'RE 8 NIGGAS INCLUDING A MAGE, A HEALER AND RETARD WITH FUCKING WINGS THAT CAN FLY TO GET THE GODDAMN FRUIT.
this whole game. I'm not even touching this shit with a ten foot pole
>>338815983
when i was younger, stuff like that did not bother me. my mother used to come into my room and say "dosent sound like that hurt your ears? how can you stand listing to that?". now as an adult, while i i can tolerate sound like that. it gets annoying fast.
>>338814729
I hated both places but I agree that Deep Roads was worse.
>>338811609
>>338811334
>>338809534
I'd take latheon gorge and ymir forest over the shitty excuse for dungeons we get in modern Tales games any day.
thoughts on mithos?
>>338809534
This is why JRPGs are shit
Western RPGs would give you the option of just killing the little shit or going around him
Chances are there would be someone in the world who wants you to kill that little shit too, and they'd pay you for it
>>338817548
asshole that would rather fuck his sister than save the world. than there was this one plot of him wanting to turn everyone into one race thinking it will somehow kill rasism and it wont.
>>338817484
>All the copy pasted areas in Xillia
>They're all back in Xillia 2
>>338818016
that was the biggest turn off for me. and the debt system.
>>338809534
but that's not the sewers!
>>338817590
>Western RPGs would give you the option of just killing the little shit or going around him
more like that would be a trans character and the only interaction you can have with it is asking it about its life story and then be forced to choose between "thank you for sharing" or "that's very interesting" for a response
>>338809534
>>338818568
>Mario Party minigames.tif
>>338813159
fuck you
>>338815317
Graces dungeons were stupidly repetitive. Seemed like they just copy+pasted the same assets over and over.
>>338811559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOo_mVvbIEU&index=30&list=RDvnC85I3wneg
>that fucking guitar feedback crying shit at :32
that shit would stress me out so bad, what was it about metroid prime's OST?
I dont think anyone on /v/ played it, but Stranger of Sword City bosses were fucking bullshit
>>338818498
the sewers can be done in 5 minutes if you know what to do though
>>338815317
I kinda agree with you in that I miss puzzles in Tales games. I don't find Symphonia's that good though.
Golden Sun had much better puzzles back then. Too bad we'll never get another one.
>>338819049
Graces dungeons are especially strange because there are points in the game where the developers proved that they knew how to make fun and/or killer puzzles. I loved Shot Cube at the Amarcian Enclave and was bummed out when I ran out of stages. That tri-colored light one with the arrows in Sandshroud Ruins was like Hell condensed into a video game puzzle.
>>338819276
Tales of Eternia was most fun when it came to puzzles
especially that one dungeon where you had to roll the dice
or the one with all the small puzzles
*Muffled Bloodline in the distance*
>>338820885
You just suck.
>>338817548
Kind of cute
>>338811720
>This entire city
>>338820885
I think i gave up on hard mode after 2 hours of this screen
How do you fucking beat it
How's Boss Rush going?
>>338817548
He did nothing wrong.
>>338821474
What really? that was the easiest way to earn beans once you memorized the pattern
>>338816339
This fucking game. I remember renting it from Blockbuster and having a blast. That is however until I got to the prison part, had no idea what to do, returned it and never touched it again.
>>338816339
8 year old me couldn't even figure out how to get past the first part, even after trying like 10 times. All I remember is shooting stuff and dying in some kind of pink wasteland over and over.
>>338809534
>>338809534
Lost
>>338821474
There's something minigame-wise later on (Besides the fun as fuck Arcade game) in this game I remember really cheesing me off but I can;t remember what it was.
The barrel minigame? The shirt painting? I can't remember.
>>338821202
Silenced pistols do not attract enemies. That's the only hint I'm giving you
>>338813146
>come on!
>the shuttle bay is onl
>>338815317
It's your classic case of streamlining. Same reason why no SMT game after Nocturne had any good dungeons. Within reason of having to work with tilesets, of course.
I feel sorry for people who missed the exit half-way through the sewers in Bloodlines. And no, no-clipping is not a solution.
>87 replies
>58 posters
>No one mentioned pic related yet
>>338825248
>rats will be our friends
good luck if you playing the clan that dont eat rats.
>>338825248
No-clipping is absolutely a solution if you want to, there is nothing enjoyable about the sewer
Lonesome road.
>>338821474
Man, the first time when the game came out, it took me super long to beat that shit. Nowadays though, I can do all the levels easily.
>>338815317
When something changes for the worst, it's usually because making a better version is too much work.
do you remember the horror?
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL
>>338814218
I liked the fade. Dunno why people whine about it so much(especially to the point of using a mod to skip it), it's one of the more interesting segments of the game.
>>338815317
>play Destiny PS2 remake
>puzzle requires you know the exact order of the chinese zodiac calender
>other puzzle requires you stack boxes and raise/lower water levels and platforms
Tales puzzles have always been in a decline right from the very beginning, or let's say RPG puzzles in general
>>338826318KYLE'S MOM'S A BITCH
>>338825536
>not collapsing the rooks on him.
Never completed it, watched the ending on youtube.
>>338825536
>not popping all 10 Turbo GRX chems
>not whipping out your completely modded Laser Rifle
>not shooting the ever-loving fuck out of him
Is Tales of Symphonia steam version fixed?
This arsehole-for-a-face looking faggot right here.
>>338825486
>feeding off rats.
what are you, a nosferatu?
sup
>>338827194
Hi 9gag
>>338812314
>zelos had the right idea.
try to hit on the kid to get past?
>>338827417
It's still two years away from this being a thing on 9gag.
>>338817898
>>338811720
FUCK YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqfRus5ePmI
>>338827519
it was a boy idiot and zelos not into loils
>>338825441
I was waiting for it.
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4GSqsjw.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
Surely there will be a great reward right?
>>338827937
>and zelos not into loils
he hits on Presea. He's hits on anything as long as it's female.
Kinda like this guy but he's more likeable than Zelos
>that one moment in Eternal Sonata where you had to do something similar but the objective was like 10 feet away from you
>>338828087
he hits on them but will tell them to come back once they of legal age.
Luca Blight's boss battles. When I played Suikoden II for the first time, it made quite the impact on me, even more so because I thought I was going to get a bad end even though I had beaten him twice.
Is the PS3 version of Symphonia any good? I held off on it before hearing how the PC port was shit, and I don't see any substantial fixes being made for it any time soon
>>338828471
its fine if your ok with playing on 30 fps and no cel-sheding.
>>338828327
One of the most delightfully evil antagonist in any game
>>338824384
STOP
>>338828557
Is the extra content worth taking the hit on that front?
>>338828471
it did a lot of things wrong that carried over to the PC version.
Some characters are missing lines, most notably Remiel when you first miss him
Save files are fucked up, you don't have access to mania difficulty when you complete the game, only once you start new game+, which means no ultimate Abyssion boss fight unless you replay the whole game
FPS is locked to 30
There is probably more small stuff that doesn't come to my mind now.
The PC version fixes the save file error by reverting to the old save system
>>338825085
>Same reason why no SMT game after Nocturne had any good dungeons.
Fuck off, Strange Journey has some of the most vicious dungeons in the series
>>338828615
in my opinion yes.
>>338815317
I wouldn't mind Tales of games puzzles if they weren't filled with enemies/random encounters.
>But I guess that's why they're gone.
Not entirely, innocence R and hearts R had puzzles too, although they weren't that complex/hard.
>>338828712
>The PC version fixes the save file error by reverting to the old save system
Yes but didn't the PC version fuck up literally everything else? How much has been fixed since then? Also, what happened to that proposed 60FPS patch? I've heard nothing from the team since late February
>>338828327
Which is funny because that entire fight can be kinda trivialized if you bought enough Fire Emblems in Matilda.
>>338828767
That doesn't mean anything considering starting with Symphonia they dropped random encounters for core entries.
>>338809534
>>338828849
>Yes but didn't the PC version fuck up literally everything else?
a lot has been fixed since then, I'd say it's superior to the PS3 version in its current state
There's also gedosato fixes but I don't exactly know their full extent, you best check the steam discussion forums for this
>>338825085
have you played Strange Journey. makes nocturn dungeons look like baby first dungeon and makes personas 3/4 dungeons look like it was made for the disabled.
>>338828561
Most villainous motherfucker in vidya, hands down. The pig scene in the Ryube raid is some Ramsay Snow-type cruelty.
>>338809534
>>338828024
his beauty is reward enough
>>338821279
The most retarded and difficult boss rush ever. Never beat it on Hard.
>>338824384
Fucking hell. Nintendo games used to be very hardcore back then.
>>338830028
>>338813146
Fuck my asshole, this part was so memorably shit that remember a ton of details about the exact day I played it.
>>338825441
I never managed to beat this.
fuck dk64 man.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EG7M7bu.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Captcha ; SANS ISSUE
>>338830028
This one was way more annoying than the cart minigame if only due to the floaty camera
Remember me?
![aria[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/t7gzx7n.png "aria[1].png")
>>338830898
That better not be what I think it is
>>338831175
Clayton fight, yes
>>338830898
>There are people who actually got stuck on Clayton
come on negroes, if it's at least pic related I could understand, but Clayton wasn't that bad
where the fuck am I going?!
>>338831450
Really? Riku was supposed to be hard? I don't recall being stuck on him.
>>338825085
>>338828740
>>338829105
Yep, Strange Journey's dungeons are great.
Have fun in pic related
>>338831672
Looks like a grand ol' time. Going to have to buy a shit-ton of Estoma items, though.
>>338826643
Jesus fuck this part.
>>338809534
Fucking retarded arbitrary blockades.
In the same game, that broken archway blocking the road next to Shrine of Winter also comes to mind.
>>338809534
That entire game gives me PTSD. I dont know why I forced myself through it twice
>>338831040
I couldn't imagine ever doing this. I can't even do Zone 2
>>338815317
nah most people who play games are dumb
any tough or challenging part will cause people to shitpost about it.
>>338817548
How can someone so old be so stupid?
>>338831640
he wasn't that bad, except for that annoying counter attack he had if you hit him too many times and that annoying ass unskippable cutscene before his fight if you lose
The main reason I refuse to replay the HD remaster.
That and they removed the gunplay/catnip trick that was in the original release of the game making that one dungeon much easier.
>>338819227
Same with the forest 2bh,it's the Temple of Darkness that's worst
>>338831516
fuck, man, just put all the really long levels into this thread.
>Get all 7 emeralds
>Get shitton of 1ups
>Get all 9 continues
>Lose them all in this sole stage
Fuck the gook who designed this part
Got my ass handed to me, had to lower the difficulty dramatically to beat him
Is this a PTSD thread or a Symphonia thread? Anyway posting mine.
>>338831450
Riku isn't hard at all. If you can't hit him, maybe there is a trick to it? Anyone with a brain figured this out
>>338831450
Even fucking DSP beat Riku on his first try.
>>338831516
The entire last level of Klonoa 1 all the way up to the final boss gave me PTSD.
>>338825085
I didn't find Nocturne's dungeons all that amazing either, honestly. I mean at least they were all unique instead of copypasted semi-randomly generated corridors, but it didn't take much to figure them out.
>>338819276
Goddamn Golden Sun was good. I didn't even hate Dark Dawn, I was just happy for more Golden Sun.
>>338827004
Greater Bonewalkers are the true Terror of this game. Only faggot Skyrim babies who couldn't get to a good enough level before quitting say Cliff Racers are the worst.
>>338832363
The whole second half is PTSD
>first half of the game can be played through without big combat encounters, most of the time is spent exploring the city and playing the game almost like it was a point'n'click adventure
>second half is nothing but linear dungeons with unavoidable combat and literally one resting spot
Pre-nerf
Melee only
Final destination
WHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk
>>338832919
Don't fucking remind me
>>338832919
source?
>>338820885
I couldn't get past this. Just refunded the game.
>>338833154
muv luv
>>338825248
>>338821474
>>338811720
>want to play these games
>see this
Dang.
>>338831945
>kill the other wolves first
>Warrior song/Shelter song
>Cleave/Allslash
>Viper
>Multishot
you should have posted the Untold incarnation, that was some heavy shit for a stratum 1 boss
>>338825754
[Drowning music intensifies]
>>338820885
>>338821202
Its a lot of peeking and getting perfect one shot kills on this one
Fuck it
>>338826904
it is easy, just lower it's accuracy with bird or fire starter
>>338811559
>>338819108
The fucking part where you get the thermal visor and have to navigate out of the space pirate facility was fucking terrifying to me when I was younger.
>>338812405
Why are japs so susceptible to flashing lights induced siezures but they keep making them in their shows
>>338833436
>mfw my Ramza was wizard
>>338816262
But that fish is pretty angry.
>>338831672
oh my god, it took me so long to do this and I only acquired the patience after taking a metric shit ton of drugs
before that point, I just kinda up and quit for a few months, it wasn't even difficult, just so fucking annoying and that segment with the teleport traps
>>338826958
Gyrm greatshield is your friend.
What was that cave in Tales of Symphonia where you had to make every single one of those black spirit things follow you but they keep getting caught on parts of the environment so you when you find that you didn't make it to the end with all of them you have to backtrack.
>>338817898
>>338827720
wut gam
i leiks me sum robits
Back then I didn't have internet.
Now I have to go back and finish it.
>>338832919
motherfucker
wheres the frodos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5WcVlg4oM8
>>338825085
And that is the main reason why strange journey is fucking trash
>>338834553
Strange Journey is fantastic up until one segment and then it's shitty for a few hours.
Can't say it was PTSD inducing but a part in Eternal Sonata was absolutely stupid and was just typical JRPG shit.
Had to feed these goats paper to get over a bridge and the party couldn't just walk around.
>>338813146
wait was this in kotor1? i don't remember this
>>338833568
>>338821202
>>338833160
>>338820885
Yeah, you just suck.
>>338812601
Earthworm Jim as a whole just fucking stressed me. I think it was the shitty gun and that FUCKING sound when he took damage.
>>338816339
>>338824101
This very much so. I liked the atmosphere but WHAT THE FUCK WAS HAPPENING
>>338809534
That one optional color puzzle in Tales of Graces.
Literally impossible without a guide.
>>338833043
>>338834317
>>338832919
I'm kinda hipped for the coming game on DMM.
>>338830843
I've been looking for this game for a while, what's its name?
>>338833160
>refunding a game because you can't beat a level
Lowest of the low, just pirate shit and call it a day.
>>338835608
イース
>>338835580
How were kids in Japan supposed to solve this without a emulator or strategy guide?
>>338834156
xenogears, best rpg of all time besides suikoden 2?
>>338809534
The final dungeon in Vesperia gave me a headache. So much ladders to climb and fuckin sorcerer's ring.
>>338836016
Is this a game I can play while intoxicated
>>338835716
Agh! It's not that game after all... I've been looking for a game that looked like this one. I can't remember a lot about it, but it had some polygonal chars and I used to play it on PC. Also it had no text, or the ui was fucked up with square text
>>338809534
I didn't mind it at all. At least symphonia had puzzles in their dungeons rather than just long hallways full of fights like Zestiria. Zest's puzzles were really simple in comparison.
>>338820885
If you couldnt beat it in hardmode then you're just not thick skinned enough
>>338836237
turn based rpg..so yes...no if you wanna get the story
![secret_of_evermore_ftw_by_darkkoopa11-d48agtl[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WMrk7vR.jpg "secret_of_evermore_ftw_by_darkkoopa11-d48agtl[1].jpg")
this and THAT fucking forest, what were they thinking?
I just gave myself ptsd thinking of this.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FyR5J1Y.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
one of the reasons why i refused to play the game until i learnt the overcharge glitch
also the fact the stamina system makes the game more boring then a standard turn based RPGeven the better game SD3 barely fucking responds
>>338815317
No I agree with you. Zelda-esque dungeons kind of disappeared from game design.
>>338827720
WHIRRRRRRRR
FUCK
>>338830028
Had problems with him only once. After the second mini-game with him starts, I figured out I could kick around the turtles by attacking them with my head, instead of fire - made everything easy as fuck, never had problems since then.
>>338815317
I love that shit too anon. Was really disappointed with every other tales game after that.
>>338835374
Yeh, Manaan, you went down to find out what was fucking with the old base.
>>338832363
Just have Morte use Litany of Curses to force Trias into using melee only instead of his magic.
Most of the time he'll miss Morte and when he does hit him, it should be alright.
>>338832046
>That and they removed the gunplay/catnip trick that was in the original release of the game making that one dungeon much easier.
It's not like it featured several new really good borderline op dress spheres like mascot and psychic.
>>338826452
>know the exact order of the chinese zodiac calendar
that's actually an example of a bad puzzle. Puzzles should be about reasoning/logic or memorization of information that the game itself gave you, not shit that you'd have to look up, especially when it's not something well known in our western culture. I don't know the Chinese Zodiac, I've never really been exposed to it. I know they do new years in like February and give each year an animal like year of the dog and shit but that's all I know, because my culture has not exposed me to more of it.
>>338815317
Mah nigga, I liked Symphonia's puzzles, well, with the exception of the tower of lightning, and that was more because I hate falling off ledges, which I never did but I was so scared to that I had to babystep around those rooms, which was annoying.
The real thing that triggered me in Symphonia though, was missing ONE chest in the temple of earth because the Gnomelette destroyed the bridge that led to it. You can never get that chest again once that bridge is destroyed. I missed Sheena's treasure hunter title for that and so it requires me to do another playthrough to try. That and Zelos' gigolo title, have to do another playthrough with an autistic list of NPC's for each town to try for that.
>>338835740
I have vague memories playing this at a friend's house
We would play shitty JRPGs for 12 hours straight in those days, we were wild
>>338826452
>puzzle requires you know the exact order of the chinese zodiac calender
"MOM WE GOTTA GO TO THE CHINESE PLACE FOR DINNER IT'S VERY IMPORTANT"
>>338820885
>Get to the disco level
>go to the top floor after beating the main floor and the floor with the hallway with glass walls everywhere
>it's a long hallway leading to a dancefloor
>get shot from offscreen over and over and over again
>try firing blindly up the hallway to bait or kill people
>it never works
>always die the moment poke head around corner again
>never play the game again
I think I should have to be able to see them for them to see me and shoot. Having them shoot from offscreen is just artificial difficulty
>>338826836
Yes. Most the bugs were fixed by bamco's patches, and the resolution and antialiasing and cell shading were fixed by the ToSfix mod. The only thing missing is 60fps, but otherwise it's the definitive version of the game. I value extra content over just a higher framerate.
>>338837106
>that's actually an example of a bad puzzle. Puzzles should be about reasoning/logic or memorization of information that the game itself gave you, not shit that you'd have to look up, especially when it's not something well known in our western culture. I don't know the Chinese Zodiac, I've never really been exposed to it.
Never touch Secret World, senpai.
All those investigation puzzles are just plain frustrating if you're not going to dedicate hours and hours on research.
>Gotta play some music in specific order
>Gotta practise Roman cryptography
>[Obscure hints]
>Gotta do some slow trial and error
>Some mumbo jumbo about Egyptian Gods
>Radio signals
>fucking morse code that equates to coordinates
I mean, the game features an ingame browser but the actual research is just way too tedious to be enjoyable.
>>338837682
The extra content is minimal.
> The only thing missing is 60fps, but otherwise it's the definitive version of the game.
So it's basically the same as PS3 version?Symphonia is fucking awful.
>>338835065
>>338830843
oh god, the dash jumping in this game made me never want to play it again. I beat it on normal and got all the shit, but will never get the last few achievements for beating it on harder difficulties because I refuse to spend all that time dash jumping again.
>>338809534
Not being able to just push him put the way.
Japs are too nice.
Also is ToS the most friendship wins overall game ever?
>>338826452
>>338837106
>That hard mode puzzle in Silent Hill 3 that required knowledge on multiple Shakespearean plays and forced you to put them in order based on this lengthy riddle that made little sense.
I know it was a hard mode puzzle, but that shit was fully retarded. Also reminds me of that fucking test in Megaman Legends 2 that asked you a fuckton of questions about real world events that happened before most people playing it were born. That should just never be in a game.
>>338838123
>friendship wins overall the game
That would be Tales of Graces
The MC literally saved the world by becoming friends with the main villain
>>338838067
i spent hours trying to configure a script to auto get the trinket.
i slowed down game speed.
nothing worked. then eventually I just got it one day.
probably a life lesson in there somewhere but w/e.
i also get an amazing time on cave story final dungeon that way.
