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How long until eroges overtake the inferior western market.
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How long until eroges overtake the inferior western market.
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Won't happen until most of the people who play them stop pirating them.
One of the MangaGamer translators let sales numbers for one of their releases slip at one point, and when people checked Nyaa, the torrent literally had over 10X downloads.
Imagine how fucking hard western devs would be yelling if AAA titles were pirated that much.
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>>338801352
it's hard to justify paying for porn.
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>>338801436
As it is for anything else otaku related. People have had fansubs for free for years, why should they suddenly start paying for simulcasts?
That's the kind of mentality these companies are dealing with.

...Well, it's not a problem solely over here. According to Alicesoft, at one point recorded sales numbers for Sengoku Rance were 50K copies. but the patch for the game had been downloaded 500K times.
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>paying for weebshit
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>>338801740
Fansubs have been dead outside of certain unlicensed shows for years.

Now people just torrent the rips
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>>338801887
what are you talking about, any decent show still gets a fansub
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>>338801767
>Paying for western 'games'
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>>338801075
There's not enough people in the western market that are willing to pay for them unlike in the Japanese market where there are people willing to pay for them. Both sides have ridiculous amounts of piracy though and there's nothing they can do about it. Tt's already been shown that using invasive DRM completely kills the sales of eroge with it as people actively boycott them
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>>338801978
The fansubbers just edit the simulcast subs.
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>>338801075
>erotic anything overtaking in the west
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Eroge developers are too stupid to realize their games get pirated because they aren't translated, so instead of wanting to localize them they want to cut all translation projects to fight piracy, never.
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>>338801075
Never because of people's reactions to stuff like rapeplay
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Due to a combination of most eroges sucking ass, and porn games usually being a pain to actually buy, they won't penetrate the market any time soon
If they make it more convenient to buy then I could see them being met with moderate success, like that shitty cat game that got put on steam and did fairly well
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>>338802615
Ofcourse they're going to be easy to buy, everything is going digital copy now a days.
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>>338801075


??????????
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it's ridiculous how many hours i've put into sengoku rance. probably more than any other game i've played

there's just something so good about games with actual good gameplay and porn
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>>338803173
>what is buddhism
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>>338803173
Educate yourself my friend
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>>338803173
Why didn't you also crop the triforce? That doesn't surprise you?
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>>338803173
Must be tough being 11 and pretending you're not an idiot
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>>338803098

game?
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>>338803173
I refuse to believe there are people this stupid
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Sengoku Rance is a really fun video game and this is coming from somebody who doesn't like the porn.

tfw Rance Quest Magnum will never be translated
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>>338803173
That's an old Chinese symbol/character called the manji.
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>>338803616
When it's facing that direction it's specifically the Nazi swastika.
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>>338803913
Cat Paradise

>>338803956
I personally think Rance VI is better than Quest and should be translated/released first.
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>>338803956
It will be translated.

It will never be released, though.
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>>338801075
Never. It's sexist, remember? Western markets future are games with strong independent trans-helicopterkin-women. Unpure games from based japs will be banned and whoever bought any will be arrested, and put into reeducation camps with daily estrogen pill diet.
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>all these fucking weebs praising japanese porn games yet couldn't even name any other popular developers apart from Alicesoft

Hilarious.
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>>338804039
nuh uh
it's only the nazi swastika when rotated 45 degrees
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>>338804116
>I personally think Rance VI is better than Quest

No shit, Quest blows. Basically everything but 5D is better than it. 5D has some quirky charm though so honestly maybe not even that. 6 shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Quest.
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>>338804290
Alicesoft and Eushully are the only one worth remembering.
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>>338804290
Eushully, Ninetail, softhousechara
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>>338801436
To be fair I remember when I bought Demobane's English release and it was fucking trash.
>Overpriced
>They only gave me FIVE downloads
>Game kept crashing and bugging out so I had to keep reinstalling
>Ran out

I haven't bought a VN since.
>Gee they can get this game for free, lets price it at like 40 fucking bucks when it should really be half that
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>>338803173
Don't play Daiteikoku if that triggers you.

>>338803956
>want to draw porn of Suzume
>can't because some people would pretend it's an endorsement of rape

It's hard to be a Rance fan.
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>>338804290
>I AM THE WEEBEST XD
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>>338804432
>and Eushully
I wouldn't bother remembering them anymore, they've entered a Dark age after all

>>338803956
>tfw Rance Quest Magnum will never be translated
There's no point playing Quest unless you've played every game before it.
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>>338804290
Eushully, Frontwing, Aka Be, August...

There's tons. I just don't remember them all because only stand-out VNs (Kamidori, Grisaia, Devil on G-string, etc) stay in my mind.
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>>338804432
>Eushully
>worth remembering
their recent titles are beyond pathetic
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>>338804432
*Alicesoft and Eushully are the only I know
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>>338804290
>OP is a picture of Sengoku Rance, one of the most popular entry level eroge games in the west
>surprised when people talk about mostly Alicesoft

It's almost like most of the posters only speak English or something.
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>>338804545
>Don't play Daiteikoku if that triggers you.
People shouldn't be playing that to begin with, it's not that good of a game. Not even Loli Hitler is good enough to save it
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>>338801075
When they actually have gameplay
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>>338804116
>I personally think Rance VI is better than Quest and should be translated/released first.

It should definitely be released first considering Quest is very referential to the rest of the series, so the more context you have the better. Gameplay-wise though Quest feels like a direct upgrade to 6.
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>>338801075

Sengoku Rance is an exception in terms of an eroge with decent gameplay

99% of eroge 'gameplay' is just boring filler until you get to the fap part
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Eroge without game play aren't worth playing.
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>>338804545
>Don't play Daiteikoku

Yes, you really shouldn't. Easily Daiteikoku worst game in the last two decades, which is saying something.
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>>338801075
When clapistan stops pretending to be hypocrites with their porn
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>>338801075
>Not at war with everyone bordering you except maybe Takeda
fug, my autism
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>>338804707
>Gameplay-wise though Quest feels like a direct upgrade to 6.
No, Quest is a massive downgrade to VI's system
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>>338804718
Kamidori is literally perfection in terms of gameplay.
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>>338804757
I didn't find the game so bad. it also had good music. just a shame I couldnt find a fully translated version
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>>338804696
They've had gameplay since their inception.

>>338804707
What? Quest has some of the worst gameplay in the series
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>>338804718
what's Kamidori
>inb4 grind
If you need to grind before NG+ you're fucking trash
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>>338804834
just read up on ww2 and you basically already know the plot of Daiteikoku

Oh but japan wins
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Me and an artist friend of mine are making a survival rpg porn game. An all female class crash on an island on their way to wherever for a field trip. Island is filled with monsters during the day and demons during the night. Heavy focus on crafting and all deaths a permanent, if a party member dies it triggers an erotic snuff scene of that character and you lose them forever. Some monsters though will just kidnap the girls and use them as breeding stock, increasing the encounter rate. There will be a bunch of fetishes, but in the end it'll mostly focus on snuff. Also we got some neat ideas to play off tropes to twist em around and end in snuff.
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>>338804718
Of the ones I played, Daibanchou, Kichikuou Rance and Kamidori all had decent gameplay. I agree that the majority is shit, but there are a few more exceptions worth mentioning.
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Friendly reminder that seinrakuana released this month after peter fucking payne hogged the tl for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYMUMb3nWIM
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Where are the femdom eroge?
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>>338805035
The same place they've always been? Femdom is a common fetish
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>>338804969
I'm surprised people aren't all over this. I guess Sengoku Rance and Kamidori are all they circlejerk to after all.
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>>338804969
>JAST shit

Course it'll take forever, they always do. Looks neat though. Is it fun?
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>>338804964
>snuff
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>>338805110
I never see people talk about any; so I assume there are no notorious / popular ones.
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>>338805035
mgq
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>>338804964
>snuff
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>>338805169
It's basically more and improved Eien no Aselia. So big yes for me.
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>>338804964
>porn is triggered by death
into the trash
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>>338804964
>are making a survival rpg porn game.
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>>338804969
I completely loath that Aselia sort of gameplay mechanic/fight system and all the unwitting games that have been tarnished by it.
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>>338801075
>you'll never play Sengoku Rance for the first time again

It was so fucking magical. The world felt truly alive with the amount of events you can trigger. So much hidden stuff. So many characters. So many options. And when I was finished with my first playthrough, I hadn't even seen all the factions and had something to look forward to in NG+.
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>>338804964
I'm already hard anon. Now you have to take responsibility and release that game.
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>>338805346
>you will never spend 30 turns talking to Ranmaru to woo her badong
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>>338804964
>snuff

That's terrible.
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>>338805275
There's some non death stuff, mostly yuri cause half the cast become hardcore dykes without any adult supervision.

>>338805182
>>338805261
Snufffags deserve love too.

>>338805301
Don't give me that look missy.
>>338805351
The lastest the demo will be out is the end of the summer, but honestly game-play wise it'll probably be finished within the month. It's just the art stuff that will probably take a lot more time.
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>>338804610
This anon's got it right.

I stopped caring after playing koukaku and soukoku no arterial and that was pushing it. They went dead after himegari meister desu. Kamidori was the last straw for me.
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>>338805420
that fucking feel

i'm also pretty sure I got a bad ending with shibata on my very first playthrough, something about lolicons. I could never recreate it. I have no fucking idea how I even triggered this chain of events
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>>338805531
you sound like the generic indie dev from steam.
all talking, no showing of anything.
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>>338805124
>I'm surprised people aren't all over this

It literally only dropped a month ago. We've had Kamidori and SR for the better part of decade to play it. Chill out, yo.
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>>338805275
It should be valid both ways, if that furfag of Fenoxo did one thing right was that you had the choice to be dominant and win, or get ravaged if lose/submit
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>>338804814
>No, Quest is a massive downgrade to VI's system

The dungeon crawling is pretty similar, but I thought the way it expanded on Sengoku's limited number of attacks system + large cast forcing you to swap out worked really well, especially considering it's a character fanservice game. Meanwhile 6's combat is...well, not terrible, but it really needed some sort of MP system or whatever.
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>>338805698
Yet I saw 3 million threads about Nekopara or whatever garbage VNs got released on Steam.
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>>338805251
I hate its art style and overall "feel"

The attack names are funny ironically at least
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>>338805820
yes, because they got released on steam.
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>>338805820
People like to post anime steam games to make anti-japanese people hilariously mad
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>almost halfway through the year
>no additional info on Rance X
>no info on Rance 04

alicesoft please
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>>338805682
Well I mean the game will be free, so we're already nothing like steam devs.

Also I'm not in charge of the art, so right now all I'm using is placement holder shit, so it's kinda hard to show anything off.
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>first SR play through, blind
>game's pretty hard but slowly winning territories
>"holy shit, fighting two territories at once?"
>that insanely difficult battle against xavier
>trying to defend the takeda blitz for the first time
>xavier comes back and slowly kills off every leader
>getting ass pounded from all sides while the world is literally doomed
>get rekked so hard by the demon army the game just gives me half of japan at some point

no other game made me feel so powerless on my first play through. the chance to permanently lose commanders when they die is truly terrifying when you know nothing about the game
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Best hgame I have played in a while
It's not even 2D though
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>>338806006
>IT'S A FUCKING RPGMAKER GAME
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>>338806089
Yes, if it's western games people would've cry trial and error bullshit.

But since it's japanese porn game it's ok.
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>>338806006
>RPG Maker

Don't take it personal, but you never had a chance.
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>>338806132
what else would you use for a porn rpg?
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>>338806006
>its a fucking rpgmaker game
>that uses the vainilla battle mechanics
>that uses the vainilla music
>no OC guys but here's some placeholder art i didn't stole.
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>>338805779
>limited number of attacks system + large cast forcing you to swap out worked really well
But the thing is that that system was inferior to VI's design, only a 1/3rd of the cast is actually useful and some classes are straight out inferior to others. With VI's system almost every single character (baring 3) were viable for use for the entire game

Limited amounts of battles with infinite skill usage > Infinite amounts of battles with limited skill usage.

>but it really needed some sort of MP system or whatever.
Doing so would have been overkill as there was already a system in place to limit usage of characters. Characters could only participate in a limited amount of battles before getting too tired and having to sub out.

VI's gameplay is easily the best outside of SR/KR.
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>>338806132
>>338806172
>>338806206
What's wrong with RPG Maker?
Vanilla music yeah, battle mechanics are a bit different.
>no OC guys but here's some placeholder art i didn't stole.
Well obviously I didn't make that art, place holder is just to have something there so we can swap it out when the real stuff is done.
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>>338805779
It's mostly a matter of preference but I prefer VI more simple combat system. I found the whole crowding of characters and necessary swaps in Quest rather annoying.
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>>338806312
>What's wrong with RPG Maker?
Everything. This project is doomed.
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>>338806407
>Everything. This project is doomed.
name one thing
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>>338806430
rpgmaker
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>>338806407
It's okay anon, if you're turned off by that I understand. This will be for the people who aren't like that, RPG Maker porn games have a surprisingly large community. We're just doing this for fun and to put something out there for people with the somewhat less common fetishes like us.
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>>338806498
well then show us some art from your "friend"
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>>338805618
I think it's a natural part of his event chain. At some point he'll ask you if you like lolis and if you go to far on that path, you'll get a game over. You probably just said no to an earlier question that would've led to a follow-up.
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>>338806306
>(baring 3)
You mean barring 1, only Bernard was useless because of his low level cap and the inefficient method of increasing his level cap. Prima is you're backup to Sill getting knocked out and Megadeath is useful for sniping casters
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>>338804290
ThinkerBell?
KISS?
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>>338806430
David
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>>338806550
http://i.imgur.com/drTAogY.jpg

Sorta NSFW.
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>>338806123
is that...some sort of text based touhou sex duel game?
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>>338804545
>>can't because some people would pretend it's an endorsement of rape
Huh? Suzume is one of those characters that constantly have sex with Rance willingly with nothing like blackmail etc going on.
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>>338806847
>fat girls

and i know what this game is (never ever) going to be.
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>>338806847
You should just scrap everything and just do furshit collab with your friend for those easy furfags bucks.
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>>338806986
We'll do our best anon, like I said it'll be free so you should still check it out!
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>>338807072
Eh, we like anthro stuff but aren't massive fans, and there's plenty of furry stuff out there.
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>>338806931
People will only make the connection that she is from the same game as the guy who rapes a lot and by drawing her, I am revealing myself as a fan of that game and that means I am also a fan of rape.

You know people would do that.
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>>338807073
>still check it out!
oh really? where?
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>>338807151
Why do you care?
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>>338807151
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>show sengoku rance to friend
>couple days later he comes to me and tells me it was boring and easy
>he used a turn by turn guide online to play through the entirety of it
>he never gave ng+ a try after that
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>>338807254
When it's done, silly.
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>>338807150
This could be you.

Think about it carefully again.
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>>338807289
rape your friend
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>>338807289
>he used a turn by turn guide online to play through the entirety of it
The RNG of the system shouldn't really make this possible
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>>338807289
Your friend is smart as shit.
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>>338807151
I know that feeling.

It's hard being morally detached from video games in year 2016.
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>>338807353
Money is nice, but the passion for us just won't be there.
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>>338807383
Save scumming does. RNG has nothing on a nerd's OC to get the highest score possible.
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>>338807289
>he used a turn by turn guide online to play through the entirety of it
Are newbies this spoonfed these days. May as well let the games play themselves.
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>>338807289
I hate it when people waste an experience like that.
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>>338807561
>May as well let the games play themselves.
Or watch other people play them
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>>338807561
Isn't that the reason why twitch/youtube is as popular as it is?
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>>338807645
>there's a mgq playtrough on youtube.
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>>338807383
probably save scumming. i'm pretty sure he used this https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/936089-sengoku-rance/faqs/58210

it's a shame too because my friend showed me kamidori. i dont know why he used such a precise guide for sengoku rance, half the fun is how much you get shit on going blind
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>>338807701
There are also at least two LPs of Sengoku Rance. All you have to do is black out the H-Scenes.
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>>338807645
I actually streamed my first playthrough of SR on hitbox, so stranger things can happen.
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Post some Shade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEj1Xz49WsI
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>>338807353
Damn, and I thought the Monster Girl Island guy was doing pretty well for himself with 6k a month.
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>>338807856
If it's one man project and he doesn't live in place with insane living cost then he already has it better.
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>>338806851
I think it's a slave trainer game, it was even translated as I recall.
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>>338807845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHH4Pv00LY
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PC exclusives can't overtake the west market
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>>338808029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IXDruWnKv0
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>>338802429
This is a. Big reason for me desu. Also the censoring. If they released English uncensored versions I cna honestly say I would happily pay for them.
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>>338809414
Same here, IF they are reasonably priced. Eroges can go for around 90 bucks over there.
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>>338805124
because it's pretty mediocre
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>>338802429
The vast majority of pirates are Japanese
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>>338804964
please add necrophilia and not just have people die and that it

also do you have somehwere i can follow the project?
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the genre gets pirated to shit because you don't know what you are getting

get yumina and kamidori first and thats what you expect and then you get da capo

its like a raffle if you don't know the genre

plus they are expensive and that kills some interest

cut prices, demos and proper support = more paying customers
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>>338804440
What is this game, and is there an english patch for it?
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>>338806006
It's cute anon. Don't listen to these faggots.
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>>338810480
Ikusa Megami

It's Eushully's flagship series. None of the games have been genuinely translated
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>>338810548
That's unfortunate for me, but I'm still interested. What's the game like in terms of mechanics?
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>>338810752
Fairly conventional jrpgs. Really quite fun though with a great setting.
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>>338806337
That's a matter of taste. VI is a vastly superior game to Quest for everything but Reset.

Magnum has some great sex scenes though
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>>338801075
When people are willing to pay 60 dollars for a porn game that they used to pirate for free.
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>tfw know moon
>Backlog practically endless
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>>338811640
>Huge backlog
>Can't pick which game to play next
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>>338801075
As soon as the japanese weebs catch on with the times and start at least translating their fucking shit to english.

I mean, for fucks sake, if a mediocre artist can make bank drawing League of Legends cunts I think it's safe to say even the common indie japanese developer could find a niche to expand.
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>>338811336
Steam managed to do it with ordinary games.
Clearly we need a porn steam to serve as a conduit to the western market.
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>>338812350
Good joke.

Steam is all about dank 5$ deals and virtual hats. There's a reason why Valve don't make games anymore.
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>>338801978
that's only if its Monogatari or a Sunrise original
anythign other than that seldom gets an actual TL, unless its DDY or Doki
or Vivid, or Asenshi, or Migoto, or &
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>>338812432

5 bucks sounds good enough for an indie eroge.

Also, steam is about the convenience of the service. People even register non steam games just so they'll show on steam.

If they offeerd an easy way to download, without obtuse patches and shit like that; a simple way to pay for it digitally and the convenience of having all in one place I think it could work out. Or at least beats having 99% of your copies pirated even though there are clarly people interested in throwing money at them, as kickstarter and patreon have should us recently.
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>>338811640
>learn moon
>even after studying on and off for ~4 years, still read slow enough to make most story based VNs a slog
>enjoy gameplay VNs but there really aren't many good ones

On the upside, being able to read Japanese is nice since it allows you to occasionally sidestep stuff like censorship or forced dubs for regular video games, so I don't think it was a waste of time in the end.
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>>338813235
It takes awhile before you can quickly read in another language. For some people, it never comes. Even then, yeah you don't have to deal with a middleman as long as you aren't actually buying shit.
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>>338806132
Hey, Brave Soul was made in RPGmaker and that shit was tight.
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>>338813235
I'm nearing the 4 year mark too, I think. I stopped actually learning and started reading along the middle. I don't do reps or anything like that anymore.
I read pretty quick unless it's historical drama, but I consider myself to be pretty good with languages to begin with.

Also, learning Japanese was one of the best decision I ever made. So many games I could play, and even games that are translated are better in their original language.
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>>338813235
I'm 26 now and it's too late to learn, should have began when I was a teenager.
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>>338804290

The old monster is dead now. No more Knights of Xentar or Dokyuusei. At least it can't churned out NTR from their grave and YU-NO is being remade now.
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>>338813817
it's not too late and you're not old, kid
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>>338801075
Never. It's a tiny, insignificant niche that will never be mainstream. Even games on major services like Steam rarely sell over 2000 copies. Official websites that offer localizations such as MangaGamer and JAST rarely break 2k as well. It's a dead medium. Dying in the east, while *slowly* growing in the west, but to no avail.
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>>338811640
Text-hooking with 40% comprehension isn't "knowing moon", anon.
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>>338812531
>actual TL
does CR or Funi not do actual translations or something
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>>338814438
They are by definition not fantranslations
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>>338814438
>does CR or Funi not do actual translations or something
They do, but they're considered 'fansub'.
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>>338814509
*they're not
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>>338814437
>projecting
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>>338813235
Well, learning a language for one thing only is a complete waste of time. Many are honeydicked by titles such as Muramasa and Dies irae, but they're vastly overrated and complete and utter garbage compared to traditional literature. Hell, westerners already have game that shits all over them in terms of writing. Planescape: Torment

Starting to read "compelling content" doesn't take long, either way. You learn kana and basic grammar, then you dive right into text-hooking and shitty moege.
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>>338814606
Haven't you got a blog to write or somewhere to make a complete ass of yourself, Clephas?
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>>338802343
One thing japanese consumer is good at is banding together to force companies to their will. When they say they are going to boycott shit, they fucking will unlike in the west.
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>>338804964
If you want to turn it up to 11, have monsters be dependent on which girl was turned into a breeder.
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>>338801075
you can't even access their site with a western ip, I don't think alicesoft is coming here.
>>338801436
serious? sengoku rance is a lot more than just porn.
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>>338801352

I have no problem paying for this Eroge when it:

1.) Panders to my fetishes - I'm not going to pay for vanilla anime porn when there's so much porn out there.
2.) Is officially translated into English - I'll import a game if you show me that you want my money. If not, you didn't want it and I'm not going to give it to you.
3.) Has no additional censorship.
4.) Is somewhat reasonably priced.

I'm into loli stuff mostly. The last one I bought Little Witch Romanesque at full price (double the steam price) to get the uncensored version. I would probably buy that train loli VN that I think Sekai Project is localizing if they weren't censoring it, but they're not getting a cent from me regardless of whether or not a fan patches stuff back in.

I'd buy official localizations of something like Monobeno or any Eushully game at any price, as long as they put in the effort to make it a good localization for the intended player base, but the teams currently officially translating Eroge have shit taste.
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>>338814003

>hating ntr

Pleb.
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>>338815445
Alicesoft has already come here. MG released Beat Blades Haruka.
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>>338815445
because of China and Korea
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>>338801075
What are some games that are close to this? Preferably with NG+ bonuses.
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>>338815808
Eiyuu Senki (+ Gold). Only problem is that it's so really easy in comparison. Still worth playing though.

There's a translation patch for the first Eiyuu Senki, porting over the official translation used in the PS3 version.

Eiyuu Senki Gold has a UI translation.
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>>338816357
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>>338815808
Kichikuou Rance is kind of a mechanical prototype to SR, but is still a lot of fun and shows off the whole Rance world instead of only JAPAN.

Kamidori Alchemy Meister. The gameplay is different, but it's just as rich in content as SR.

Bunny Black was popular for a week or so. Haven't played it, but might be worth looking into.

Daibanchou is another pre-SR Alicesoft game. The gameplay goes through different phases, ramping up in complexity/scope.
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>>338815808
Kichikuou Rance (ENG)
Daibanchou (ENG)
Daiakuji
Venus Blood Series
Meishoku no Reiki
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>>338816357
Eiyuu Seknki Gold full translation when?
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>>338815632
what are some other good translated NTR games?

i've played ntrpg 2 and loved it. playing imazaki imouto now and find it pretty ok so far. tried playing emma but i think i got stuck on progression and dont know how to trigger more events
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>>338816893
If you lose in Kichikuou Rance the girls get raped right? The same happens to Daibanchou
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>>338817117
Depends on the definition of lose. Some girls also get raped regardless.

You will never save Hawzel and Hornet for instance.

KR has 100% guaranteed permanent death as well
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>>338817117
Not that I remember. There are a few story instances of "rescue X or she gets a bad end", but I think that's it.
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>>338814638
Those titles are good though, but only because the authors have godtier writing styles. The setting/plot itself is cliché as fuck, especially dies irae. And how the fuck are you jumping between between literature and torment?
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>>338816967

>translated

I can't think much other than the occasionally translated rpgmaker titles.
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>>338817734
Most people use machine translations. No one gives a fuck about story and writing.
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>>338817678
>godtier writing styles
Narahara is god awful, though.
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>>338818164
He understands how to write proper fight scenes. That alone makes him good enough.
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>>338801075
Rapelay incident
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>>338818531
15 minutes of dull infodumping before anything happens isn't good writing, nor a good fight. They're by far the worst part of 装甲悪鬼村正. Take 鬼哭街 as an example of excellent fight scenes.
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>>338816357
>>338816893
>>338816909
Thanks!
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>>338803173
That's the symbol of Honganji, fortress of the Ikko Ikki and Buddhist fighting monks
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>>338806123
So? What's the title?
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>>338818051
story and writing are kinda important for NTR
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I don't see it happening OP.
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>"I let you gang rape my wife and had her split into five pieces. Is that something a sane man would do?"
What did he mean by this?
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>>338814904
Yep, happened with this piece of shit and they never recovered. Alicesoft is the only studio left alive since the 80s. THE CREAM RISES TO THE TOP OOOOOOOOHH YEEEEAH
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>>338804290
Tenco has been pretty fun. Also MinatoSoft as a guilty pleasure
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>>338802615
>Due to a combination of most eroges sucking ass

How do you know this if you can't read most of them?

It's like /v/'s a fucking Reddit. Everyone's an expert.
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>>338816357
Is Goemon still broken and does she finally get an H-scene?
>Goemon +30% +5 Luck
>one-shots end game bosses
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>>338822518

Funny how this kills Elf but shit like >>338815632 is still flying and more success than the original vanilla eroge. Adding NTR to a vanilla eroge is like a recipe for disaster because how otaku can get their boycott done unlike here.

It's not always a good thing because this is how shit like Muv-Luv Altered Fable is made. But then Japanese vanillafags are paying customer unlike here, so good for Age, I guess.
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Violated Heroine Kickstarter when?
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>>338803173
>Didn't know Nazi Germany was ACTUALLY in Japan.

Step up sempai.
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>>338823385
No. It's adding surprise NTR to something marketed as a normal, vanilla game.
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>>338823615
This. NTR itself has a market of its own but adding that to a plain vanilla game as a twist is just asking for trouble
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>>338823687
I do have to save that I had no issues with the game in question myself.

But they failed to recognise the traits of the market.

The eroge market is highly 'educated' and by that I don't mean schooling I mean that the customers are very well informed about the different games and companies and the history and track record and who offers what . Brand loyalty is a lot smaller compared to the game industry as a whole while the market memory is a lot stronger.
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>>338823687
It's probably fine for a worst ending kind of deal where you completely screw the pooch, but plot twisting it is a big gamble. Its not really genre shifting like say Yu-no so the hook would have to really REALLY good.
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Never ever
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>>338823949
Well bad endings is fine - see Rance games for instance.

Even Shizuka has been raped by enemies

But for generic dating sim/romance sort of games it's pretty brave move.

Elf also doubled down and became a high production value NTR company. Which proved to be a bad mood.

Some of their more recent offerings are pretty decent though
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>>338814003
>yuno being remade
>a good thing

not with how they're handling the gorgeous art, anon.
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>>338824081
Eushully could well be in desperate need of cash soon so never say never.
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>>338824180
I always enjoyed elf, but yeah they definitely just couldn't survive. Makes me worry about AS, but they managed to survive Vanilla Quest and Daiteikoku, back to back no less so maybe they are invincible after all.
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>>338801075
They should translate space one. SG was so much fun.
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>>338824234
After this they're fucked. Especially 55 is really bad.

And consider the reviews:
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game_comment_time.php?game=22865&order=asc
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>>338803795
That was the symbol used by the Hōjō clan during feudal Japan
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>>338824539
Forgot pic
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>>338824565
He was ribbing him anon
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>>338824423
Add Toushin Toshi III to that as well.

Alicesoft got lucky because they still had Rance to fall back on to.
A lot of Rance fans were disappointed with Quest but not to the extent of giving up on the series.

I'm quite interested in what they will do once Rance finishes. Rance 04 is also going to come out as well but VI onwards don't really require remakes.

Probably spinoffs.

Alicesoft also release 3-4 games a year generally (though only two games last year and probably only 2 this year).
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>>338824539
my sides

Is it really that bad?
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>>338819238
But, the Buddist monks weren't a state competing for Japan
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>>338824661
The numerous detailed reviews with low scores definetly indicate something is wrong.

Honestly I had doubts about it ever since they announced the 6 protagonists thing. It just doesn't sound like something that could be done well in an eroge.
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Is everything JAST and MA sells legal in the US?

Would consider buying stuff in that case since I pirated everything before
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>>338824539
>>338824607
And Kami no Rhapsody was really shit as well.

I still think that if they went back to their strengths rather than going with experimental crap they have a chance to come back.

They need to do another Ikusa Megami;

They are in big trouble though if Rance X gets delayed to next years Golden Week release
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>>338824709

The Ikko Ikki was a massive pain in the ass to Oda Nobunaga.

Oda Nobunaga did nothing wrong.
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>>338824860
Yes. Its' EU and Canada you'll find problems.
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>>338823687

It's not really a twist though, Tamaki clearly said early in the game that she already has a boyfriend. Of course, making her MC's childhood friend is a really stupid idea, but still. Can't they make her scenario like Mizuho from Kakyuusei 1,where you have to actively sabotage the local playboy effort to fuck her?
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>>338825020
>using machine translations

Kinda hilarious how for different sentences different translations are better or worse. It's like a double puzzle for you, first you need to guess which translation is the closest and then what it's actually supposed to mean.
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>>338825020
You just don't do that with childhood friends.

The two worst betrayals in eroge are the childhood friend and your mother abandoning you for your enemy
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>>338819929
His wife deserved it.
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>>338825239
Worst still, you make the mother reasonable and understanding in every other route but her own, where she is standoffish, accusatory and distrusting.
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>>338825020
For a vanilla game, childhood friends are the ones that you never should fuck up. The worst thing they did, is she is THE MAIN GIRL, THE ONE ON THE COVER EVEN IN THE Anime and OVAs.
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>>338825239

>your mother abandoning you for your enemy

What eroge does this?
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>>338825528
Not him, but YU-NO comes to mind
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>>338816357
Just downloaded this, seems fun. Any general advice before I go in?

On that topic, if anyone is planning on playing Sengoku Rance after reading this thread, always release 5 prisoners at a time. The game will give you an item that raises a character's level by 1 (always give this to Rance) if you do that. If you release 4 prisoners, you get nothing, even if you release 1 prisoner the next time you go to your dungeon.
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>>338825220

You need to know at least some Japanese if you want to use machine translators, there's no way you'd be able to decipher some of if not most of the sentences it spits out without it.
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>>338801075
How long until disgusting tripfags stop posting on /v/?
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>>338825668
If you'd care enough to know "some Japanese", you'd probably care enough to know how shitty machine TL ís.
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>>338825660
When you get BEST GIRL and get Gullinbursti. Go full crit, she one shots bosses
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>>338825779

Everyone knows how shit machine translators are, I'm just saying it's kinda funny how if you want it to actually be usable you need some Japanese.
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I'd like a porn grand strategy game like rance without the forced events and actual freedom and depth.
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>>338825836
Or you need to train for years like some Redditors/Fuwafags do.
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>>338825895
Not happening.
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>>338825978
>paradox is the only grand strategy dev left
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