I don't understand how there are some people who still treat this like a K/D-oriented game.
It's a game about good team-composition. Not about how many Reapers we can get in one team.
Are the non-offensive classes fun?
>>338798865
Yes
>>338798865
the defense heroes and sniper heroes are, and 1 of the tanks, but everyone else is a chore to play
>>338798865
God yes, fuck, they're what make this game more than just a generic shooter.
Sorry buddy, KD may not win you the match, but I can guaran-fucking-tee that a team with players who are skilled and have high KDs will wipe the floor with 99% of teams unless they have absolutely top notch levels of teamwork and skill.
Your little Mercy or Lucio or Reinhardt or Symmetra are useless, sorry to say. That's why no one ever votes for you. Get over it.
Also the suggestions to have a purely balanced team (the pic in OP) is BS, as most professional teams would be considered unbalanced by the game. Play the character that you're good at that will help win the game, not just picking a sniper or whatever because the little pop-up says "b-but you have no sniper :'(("
>>338799038
I hope we're talking about Reinhardt here? I swear he's the only tank that can actually tank damage on behalf of his allies.
You've never rolled with a 5 Winston and 1 Lucio team. That steamrolls most "balanced" teams
>every game have to pick between picking lucio/mercy or getting slaughtered
I really which there was some XP boost for playing support characters or something. Something.
>>338799123
>That's why no one ever votes for you
Except that I do. Every. Fucking. Game.
Damage dealers are a dime a dozen.
Most people dont give a shit about winning, why even bother trying to win, they just want to play the chars they like.
>>338799142
yes, pretty much eveyrone else is usless and too easy to kill
>>338799234
I don't think there needs to be, tbqh. Healer/support/tanks have always been a vast minority.
Most mongoloids just want to run around and kill people, and expect everyone else to do, well... everything else.
Forced 50% win loss ratio.
>>338799289
>why even bother trying to win
Because it's the point of the game. Two teams on a soccer field won't just dribble the ball around because it's fun.
Everyone will work together to help their team score a point.
>Get into match
>2 Faggots insta-lock Genji and Hanzo
>Nobody fucking picks Tank or Support
>Pick Lucio even though I'm tired of playing him just so we have a healer
>Lose anyway because shitters gonna shit
Every.
Fucking.
Time.
I feel that the biggest problem with Overwatch right now is that it still leaves characters like Widowmaker and Tracers who can essentially do their jobs without a team.
Tracer is all about not being where the bullets are, and Widowmaker is all about camping.
The rest of the team has practically no say in what happens to characters like this.
>>338798756
>play zenyatta
>have fun
>play tracer
>have fun
>play reinhart
>dont have fun
tanks a shit, support and AD are life
>>338799505
Oh god the ASSFAGGOTS cancer is infecting this game.
>>338799585
See, stuff like this is the problem. People who don't WANT to do certain roles are essentially forced to, because someone has to.
Good on you anyway m8.
>free Beta had less shitters than the full retail release that costs money
How?
>>338799585
If it makes you feel better, you are the best kind of player. You adapt to what your team needs, instead of picking the same sniping fuck 47 games in a row.
You are a game winner, even when your team sucks dick.
>>338798865
I never play support/healer in any game. This is the first game where I mainly play support/healer.
>>338799704
Literally fuck off. It's a team-game. It's not Quake.
You're suppose to live and die on the actions of the team.
main problem imo is that tanks and healers are way too boring, make tanks deal damage depending on damage took and give healers better weapons, dont really need them to deal more damage, and give them funner movement mechanics
>>338799585
Yeah, that's the worse. Team comp doesn't mean shit if your team is incompetent.
There's nothing more satisfying than being teamed up with people that know what they're doing. I'd happily play as Mercy or Reinhardt in those situations.
>>338799773
Because beta-access are the people who really care about these types of games.
Everyone that jumps on now is just here for the memes.
>>338799885
>make tanks deal damage depending on damage took
Have you tried Zarya? She's pretty fun
>>338798756
are you telling me that my team of 3 genjis isnt gonna work?
>pick lucio
>silver medal in damage dealt because offense characters are shitty
This will always be the most frustrating thing.
So how long is it going to take people to figure out the meta is 2 supports per team?
I'm tired of picking a second support and having the other guy switch off.
What kinda' worries me thus far is that it seems like Blizzard have only manage to make ONE good tank.
Hell Reinhardt is the only character who even FEELS like he was built to tank damage for the squishies.
The other tanks just feel like slightly more beefy, utility-based DPS.
And that's not saying that they're bad or unfun to play, but that they're not filling the role they were designed to fill.
A role which only Reinhardt can fill as of right now.
>>338800093
Got any complementary suggestions? Would just Lucio Mercy suffice? Also, does Mercy have regen like Medic?
>>338800034
>get into game
>4 Reapers
And you just fucking know they're all garbage.
>>338799678
Except that Tracer is fragile as hell and melts when people look at her and needs teammates to cover.
Meanwhile Widowmaker is easy destroyed by the likes of Winston or if people flank her. Teammates help keep her alive and lock down the team
>3 genjis on my team
at least you can just leave the match and find a new one in 5 seconds when this happens
>play Bastion
>everyone either screams that you're shit
>or screams at you for killing them
No one likes Bastion, huh?
>>338798756
I am loving these two shallow game modes so much! I love 6 minute matches too!
The supports in this game look fun, but after almost 9 years as a Scout main in TF2 I feel like the only way I know how to carry bad teams to victory is by going fast and doing huge damage.
I haven't played Overwatch yet but it's difficult to imagine any other play style in a shooter these days.
>>338800389
it's just casuals who run in front of a machine gun and expect to live
>>338800242
The meta right now if you want to be a turbofaggotand like winningis,
1. Lucio (Only character with speed boost, too good not to have)
2. Mercy or Zenyatta (2nd heal + Dmg boost)
3. Winston or Reinhardt (Tank)
4. McCree (Best char in game, wins 1v1 vs every hero, too good not to have)
5. Situational
6. Situational
>>338798756
what about not playing this piece of shit of a game in the first place?
>>338800389
I think he looks cool but otherwise I don't care much about him because I can kill him well.
>>338800417
>6 minute matches
This is a real problem for me.
I feel that a large reason that teams don't matter to people is because 6 minutes just isn't long enough to really "care" about how the team does.
>>338800518
This applies to both Offense and Defense by the way.
You'll switch up the situational slots based on which side, but the others are pretty much static.
>tfw people haven't discovered how powerful Symmetra is
I'm gonna enjoy my Loo Witch until she becomes FoTM.
>>338799263
Try playing support. Good damage dealers are really fucking rare. Healing is pointless is your team isn't killing shit.
Is there a max level in this game?
>>338800518
fucking winston is annoying as fuck
>>338799585
>>338799758
>>338799789
>>338799927
having to play the same fucking character every game because it's unbalanced as fuck and the community so fucking shitty you always have to be the support/healer
and blizzdrones will defend this and keep eating shit pretending to enjoy it
also no class limit because fuck you
>>338800762
Which is why people in competitive games sometimes end up bring 2 Winstons.
One just to be the tank, One to jump into the enemy backline and fuck all the low health heroes up.
If this game is supposedly worth playing, then why are there so many goddamned viral marketers and ads everywhere? They must have spent more on advertising than development.
>>338800626
I thought everyone knew she is strong with a good team, but they have trouble fitting her in as far as her gun and turrets.
>STILL getting kicked off the server at least once every three minutes
Blizzard I swear to fuck. Please tell me I'm not alone vee
>>338800851
I just wish her range on her left click was longer. You're so fucking defenseless if you aren't in range already, due to everyone just sanicing away from you.
Also, her right click fucking sucks. Too fucking slow.
>those stubborn fuckers who pick a double character
Come on man, there are 15 other people to play as. Fucking switch to someone else.
>>338800318
I had 2 Grenjis once, rolled my eyes. But I Think we won anyways.
>i paid 60 dollars to be a healslut or lose every game
>>338800389
That result of design feels serendipitous, in that you playing as Bastion incites those feelings from other players. You get blamed and hated as if you were actually an omnic in the world of Overwatch.
>>338800179
depends on the map. In the domination maps D.Va and Winston fare way better but I agree with you.
If you want to push or hold a choke point you have to pick reinhard and that's kind of stupid.
You only win matches because the game lets you. You aren't actually good at the game. It has a forced 50% win ratio.
>>338801073
Play Lucio and airhorn people off the map.
It almost makes it worth it.
Will they ever expand and create maps for 24 players?
>>338798756
who the fuck cares autist
>>338800560
They want basically bite size matches because casuals. Which creates three problems.
You get rolled or roll another team so much that it breaks your spirit
You get bored because of how shallow the gameplay is
It is supposed to encourage people to stick it out, but it just makes people want to quit when #1 happens. It's not like TF2 where joining mid match isn't damning to your experience. Joining in the middle of a match in progress, a ~10 minute match, it feels shitty. Granted the short times mean you get to start fresh, but again exhaustion is a problem. Play any game long enough in one sitting and you get exhausted. Overwatch has so many issues to expedite that feeling.
I should also note that characters are fun to play but the shitty and bland map design paired with boring game modes feels stifling. Incoming car analogy, its like driving a super car on a city street.
The game needed and needs more creative game modes.
It needs the quick play as it is now, QUICK MATCHES
But it also needs a queue for modes that are not QUICK.
>>338800318
>>338800975
>mfw going Winston vs a double genji team
No reflect, no escape weebs.
>>338800831
Blizzard games always have a big budget nowadays - they have probably spent over $100 million on OW. Can't have it flop or miss out on some sales.
>>338800873
How? I only bought the game yesterday and I haven't been kicked off once after playing literally 18 hours with only short breaks.
>>338801137
It's like LoL matchmaking, the perfect way to ensure that you never ever have a good match.
>>338801073
>beta
>teams were generally competent. teammates went for objectives, balanced classes properly and there was always at least one healer
>game proper
>every idiot instantly locks genji/hanzo/widowmaker
>have to choose between playing lucio/mercy or getting absolutely demolished and every match feels like a chore because my team is almost always terrible.
Used to lose half my matches in the beta.
My friend is shit at FPS games, but like MOBAs and became the healer, starting winning like 75% of our games. Made it much more fun.
A shame we are both too cheap to buy the game.
![2ec[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/J7qdmbu.png "2ec[1].png")
>>338799773
>He fell for the "it costs money, so the players are better" meme
You probably weren't here for HoN vs LoL, but at least you know now.
>>338800975
I hated it inLOL, but now I kinda' see why they lock each team to only one of each champion in that game.
>>338801378
>someone who never played beta
>>338801378
Fuck off nostalgiafag. It was literally the same in beta as it is now.
I swear I don't know how you people can be nostalgic for a fucking week+ ago.
>Twice as many unique heroes as in TF2
>Half the team size
>Because of the requirement for support and tank heroes, of which there are only a handful, more than half of the other heroes go unplayed
>Eventually games turn into the same garbage as League of Legends where everyone plays Mercy, Reinhardt, Widowmaker, Tracer, Bastion, and Genji.
me and my friends went all HIGH NOON and won 3 payload games in row. it was fun and silly
>>338801084I kinda' like Overwatch lore.
>>338801420
>>338800975
The only pro, is if you are both switching characters or whatecver
>>338798756
Dude, just let my team play all bastions. What could possibly go wrong?
>>338801137
>>338801361
>this is what shitters actually believe
I win 90% of my matches. When I lose one it's genuinely a rare occurrence. Git gud.
>>338801219
As much as I don't want to see this game copy TF2 any more than it apparently already has, I would really enjoy a 5cp or ctf game mode.
>>338801347
I don't know. During open beta I had zero problems. Since release yesterday I have not been able to stay connected to the server for more than 5 minutes at a time. All of a sudden my RTT jumps up to like 400-500 and I lag out, followed by being disconnected. A lot of other people are having the same problem and Blizz claims to be working on it but I sure wish they'd hurry the fuck up. I haven't played a single problem-free match yet.
>>338798865
>Pick Zenyatta
>See ANYONE camping at the back of the map
>discord them
>snipe
additionally
>mfw taking out toblerone's turret with my charge attack
>>338801512
No offense but only the original beta players should be allowed to post in this thread, you wouldn't understand.
>>338801661
>I win 90% of my matches
Sounds like you don't ever have any good matches, just like LoL.
>tfw always have to play support cause no one else does
>>338801219
I agree about the last part.
>>338800389
He has massive damage with a very long falloff range, and even then he can still easily score kills
Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that [-]
>>338801661
Post it then, liar.
>>338800518
>McCree
>wins 1v1 vs every hero
Mei would like a word
Reinhardt can take him too
Genji can too (you can reflect the flashbang)
>>338801685
Well whatever the problem, I feel for you brother. Hope they fix it.
>>338800179
Yeah, I'm still pretty low level but I feel weird picking anyone other than Reinhardt when we need a tank.
The others really need a few abilities adjusted just so they feel like the're more about the team than just being beefcakes.
Me and the lads had a game where I played as Reinhardt and everyone else on my team played Bastion. Cleaned house five or six times, but I only got like 2 kill assists since I was blocking them. I just don't know why they never once tried flanking.
>>338801727
Only the hairiest bears may cum in my mouth, straight men need not apply ;)
>>338801727
>autism speaks
>>338801878
Thanks anon. I've spent the past two days doing virtually nothing because I don't feel like playing any other games. I just want to play some Tracer orZarya
>>338801768
kill me
He kills Mei and Reinhardt instantly if approached correctly.
Mei just dies, arguably Reinhardt can shield but there's ways around that.
Genji is possible, but unlikely.
This is just based off pick rate by the way. McCree is probably on both the Offense and Defense teams of every competitive match for a reason.Coincidentally, Mei and Hanzo have never been picked at all in any game.
>>338800417
i hated battleborn cause it took 30 mins just to finish a match. i really dont want to play a shooter that's as long as a league match. that shit is boring as fuck
Every fucking game there's so many Reapers, McCree's, Hanzo and Genjis.
Fucking K:D kids.
>>338798865
not in any concievable manner, I only pick reaper or bastion
>join a lobby
>on defense, we have 2 mccrees, a tracer and a reaper
>play mercy
>ask someone to play a tank or maybe get some more defense
>they tell me to fuck off
>we lose in 2 minutes
playing without my friends stresses me out so much. i literally cant enjoy this game unless i play with friends because everyone is so fucking retarded
>>338798865
lucio's great times even if most of my kills are either assists or potshots
I like roadhog and dva as well though i'm still trying to learn the latter
the rest of the support/tank characters and all the defense ones can eat a dick though.
>>338802115
this tbqh familio
My god, the game is one day old, even counting in the open Beta the game is still pretty new, of course people don't know what the fuck they are doing.
That shit stopped pretty quickly for me actually and I only so it the among the first 10 matches or so.
Now arround rank 15 people even have started to switch it up like crazy midgame to counter each other again and again, which also makes the matches go on for longer.I'm in the EU pool though, maybe that's why
>>338802115
>tfw 4 golds Genji and shit talk my team the entire game
Casuals can eat my dick while I spam F
>Pick Mercy
>Some guy charges way out on his own without the rest of the team
>"wheres the fuckin heals"
>dies
>>338799123
this post makes you seem so autistic
>>338802394
>Reinhardts who charge randomly into the enemy team alone
I don't care if you hit someone with the charge and killed them, it's not worth it to leave your team defenseless.
I see them do this shit all the time and wonder how their team got rolled after they died.
>>338801073
You could develop a healslut fetish
So when did you grow out of being the DPS '1v1 me u noob" K:D kiddy?
I grew out of it when I was 17.
The plays of the games reinforce this too, since 9/10 times it'll go o an attacker who has a good ult, making people want to play tanks and support even less.
>>338802626
I never grew out of it since I ain't shit at videogames and had to convince myself that being useless was contributing to a team somehow
>>338801073
Hey, me too man. Mercy main.
>>338802771
GENJI MAIN DETECTED
>LEVEL UP
>LOOT BOX
>"Aw sweet, hopefully I can get at least a rare winston skin"
>1 Rare coin flys into the sky
>"This is it baby"
>Bastion line
BWOOOOOOOOOOP
Fucking omnics
>rough round earlier
>lose within 5 meters of the final checkpoint during overtime because a Mercy did their job
>PotG is Reaper pressing q
>Reaper's card gets 0 votes
>Mercy gets 8
>the Reaper player spends the entire set-up phase of the next match bitching about not being appreciated
>>338800941
Agreed. Her m2 needs to beslower.
>tfw being the healslut for your group of six friends
>Don't ever worry about having shitty teammates
>We're all extremely coordinated
>Blizzard is retarded and apparently doesn't out us against other six man stacks, they pit us against random
>Pretty much get to club baby seals all day
I'm the one ruining all of your games
All while listening to the sweet words of Mercy in my ears
>Get outplayed by someone who isn't Junkrat
>Killcam is a Junkrat spamming nades at random halfway across the map literally every time
>PotG is Junkrat(his team lost)
>It's the ONE Q he managed to get off that was immediately countered by a Mercy Res
I'm tired of seeing this worthless cunt everywhere.
>>338802921
>get a penta with zarya
>unpack zarya highlight
>>338803247
>Junkrat wheels my entire team
>Res them all
>PotG is the wheel and not my res
>>338802921
Mistrust the rust
>>338798756
I like how they even went so far as to make sure there are no deathmatch game modes to help people focus on objectives, and people still choose to opt out of that shit.
I had a game where, as Mercy, I was the only one escorting the payload. People kept yelling at me to join the fight, but the enemy team wasn't attacking me and my team wasn't defending or anything, so I pushed it most of the way myself and we ended up winning. I don't know what this game is supposed to be.
To all you supports who instalock every game I salute you.
I don't get to support but play a tank that game.
>Kills:Death isn't even shown on the leaderboard
>people still care about kills:death and not the objective
>>338798865
>Getting stomped
>Play Mercy to backup Reinhardt
>Reinhardt charges balls deep into 5 players while everyone else stays behind
>He's dead in seconds
>Nigger ape jumps at me and beats on me until death while team mates continue to snipe at a 4 stack that's being healed while dodging the ape
Playing support is suffering, team mates will not assist you if you're being attacked even if they're right next to you, they'd rather beat on low HP pool heroes for ez frags
>>338803737
>tfw someone on the other team actually has their shit together and guns for you the entire match while you team does nothing to protect you
>>338799585
>team picks 2 widowmakers
>they suck ass and we lose despite me/winston/76 put up a decent fight
>state that they suck as widowmakers
>he replies something like 'oh yeah cause playing Mercy is hard'
>rest of the team chimp out on him
Was funny
>>338799585
It's funny that the game fucking TELLS the player how to have the team balanced but nope, fuck that 5 Soldier 76s anyway
>Play Zenyatta and pushing with the team
>People are low on health so I ult
>They all run away to look for healthpacks anyways
>>338798756
Is bad composition really that bad a problem? I haven't gotten my copy yet, but I remember people in the open beta at least understood you needed a tank and a healer. How has adding a payment barrier made the problem worse?
>>338799038
winston can be kinda fun and roadhog is really fun though he's not really a tank.
>>338799585
I main flankers like Tracer and Genji and often insta-lock as them at team start to let people know who I want to play them, but look over the team comp as it builds and will settle for playing more mobile characters of other roles like Lucio/Winston/D.VA if the team comp is too fucked up.
The awful thing though is that most people who play flankers are fucking awful. When I'm not playing one things like Bastion are a nightmare because our Genji is fucking useless, or nobody is killing their Mercy, etc. So I have to meet halfway by aggressively flanking with Lucio and Winston and doing their job for them.
Flankers are a dime a dozen but what makes it really painful is that it's the role that you will notice a bad player immediately. Way easier to be a healbot with Lucio/Mercy or hold right mouse with Rein but baddies will never play those characters because they want to be MLG.
Also, there's a special circle in hell for people who see another character is already on your team and then lock into it anyway. Especially when it's Hanzo/Reaper.
>>338800389
Bastion has no middle ground. He either reams the tender assholes of shitters too stupid to pick a burst damage character, or he gets bitchslapped by anyone smart enough to just fucking peek shot him.
>>338803975
If you pick a Torb or a Bastion on Offense I will berate the shit out of you.
>play Zarya for the first time
>That fucking 100 ENG laser
I need winter soldier because the only thing keep me from playing her more is her shitty special snowflake getup
>>338803969
>Zenyatta ult
>Roadhog stops doing damage to stuff his face
Can't wait till people get used to the game
>>338804112
A good bastion can be incredible on offense if played as a stealth character. Obviously though if you're just sitting in backfield in sentry form as most bastion shitters do, you'll be useless
>>338804112
Torb is valid on offense IF you're pushing a payload and the enemy has 2 or 3 Tracers or Reapers.
>see that someone is critical
>try to get to them to heal them
>they're running the other way
>stop stop stop stop
>no line of sight so I can't shift
>they die
nigga we can see each other through walls just run towards me if you want to not die
>>338802626
15.
>>338798756
You forgot to put "Overwatch" in the OP you retard.
Now your shitty thread got past my filter.
Fuck you.
>>338804220
>a good bastion
There's no such thing, because someone who is good would not pick bastion.
>>338799123
Okay aspie. But when you need a Mercy to fix your dumbass from dying I'll be sure to try to angle the revive away from you.
I usually run DVa support, but christ she is simply outclassed by every other tank. It doesn't help that my ult doesn't kill the 5 people licking the paint off the mech, but it kills me across the map and around the corner.
>>338804112
I play bast weirdly on offense. I'll push up since I can self-heal, duck in and out and find corners to set up in to cover my team as we move. I feel staying in one spot as Bast lets you get blown up so I tend to move around.
>this thread
>>338804460
>this life
>>338802921
Did they raise the drop rate of skins? I barely got any back in the beta but now I get one with almost every crate.
I've even had two legendary skins by the time I reached level 10.
>>338804403
DVa isn't a tank though. She's just a heavy DPS.
>get in to a lobby
>pick first, go junkrat
>rest of the team slowly and inevitably fills with only offense heroes
>have to pick mercy/lucio so my whole team doesn't get annihilated
There is nothing on this earth I hate more than playing with retarded pubbies, GOD I would KILL for a server browser
>on defense
>playing as Mercy
>entire team goes Rambo instead of gathering around the payload where I can fucking keep them alive
AYO WHERE DEM SUPPORT WOMEN AT
AIGHT LEMME HOLLA ATCHU
>>338804591
But she can't even dps
>that one casual player who picks Bastion because they heard he was overpowered and completely suck dick at him
You've seen it, haven't you?
>>338798756
What region do you guys play in? I usually get decently balanced teams here in yurop in like 3/4 matches.
Why doesn't Overwatch work like this:
You pick your hero before you get into a game.
Then let Blizzard put the team together for you.
Obviously hero-switching mid-battle would have to be taken away.
I'm a designated support role player since pub scrubs never want to pick support. That's why I'm glad Zenyatta exists because good discord orb placement can score me some kills and even a play of the game.
>>338804591
She's a useless piece of shit is what she is. Gookmech belongs in the trash along with everyone who picks her because that grating plastic korean piece of shit is their waifu of choice. The only characters more useless than D.Va are le robot of holding LMB and toblerone, and even they can do something useful if you're playing against garbage pubs.
>>338804697
Bastion is so easy to deal will pretty much every bastion picker is shit at him
He's only good if you build a team around him
I only played the beta and never had this problem
>Too much offense
>pick Mercy
>too little offense
>pick Soldier 76
Simple.
>>338804796
>support role player
>role player
I believe I've made a Freudian slip
>>338804697
>pretty bad at the game and shooters in general
>pick bastion and kill a bunch of people
ya just squat down pointed at where they're gonna come from and shoot it's great
>>338799773
>>free Beta had less shitters than the full retail release that costs money
>How?
Because the good players tried the beta but found it boring and shallow, so they didn't get the full game.
That leaves the casuals.
>>338804670Hi there
>Tfw you play Bastion as a stealth flanker that wipes entire teams from behind
Feels good man. The best part about it is how everyone thinks Bastion is a free kill when not deployed only to realize he has 300HP and a really good recon mode gun as they eat the dirt.
>>338802543
Some players dont actually want/expect you to follow. Sometimes an enemy is in a good position for a charge, and taking out a key player is worth it. You also divert all attention to you, giving your team precious seconds to entrench or switch to attack.Too bad there are no players that know how to capitalize on good charges.
Pleb Tier players
Soldier
Mei
Reaper
Bastion
I can't tell if Roadhog's hook is really good or really shit.
>Team comps
>Not creating an entire team of edgelords
>>338804905
Congratulations on bullying the retarded. Bastion's gun is mediocre at best, and it certainly doesn't make up for his piss poor mobility and the fact that he's a gigantic target at all time.
>>338805061
Good in certain situations
Shit in certain situations
>>338805081
That happened. It was called Blackwatch and it blew up
>tfw no hero limit
>>338799585
Pick Zen or Symmetra, fun as fuck
>>338805129
Yeah, obviously, but there's something wonky about the hitbox.
Either it's way to fucking charitable, and lets me pull heroes out from behind corners, or it's absolute shit and won't pull a hero right in front of me.
And I can never seem to get the former when I need it.
>Expecting cooperation in an online game
That's where they dropped the ball.
>it's a Winston and tracer gun for you the entire match episode
>starring useless offensive heroes who are 15 yards away from the payload
Fucking kill me, I have really good aim from CS and literally always rape with hit scan heroes but I'm forced to play the bitch classes because people would rather lose then be forced into a different role
>>338805209
Hopefully competitive mode will make it 1 or 2 limit
Is overwatch difficult?
looking for a challenging game.
>Pick Junkrat at the start
>Nobody picks any support or tanks
I like Lucio and D.Va, but I'm getting tired of these faggots not willing to pull their weight.
>Reinhardt
>stuck with tracer ult
>face towards team, shield
>live
>>338801378
I'm hoping that in a few days the matchmaking will work again like it did in the last few days of beta.
Dying on a point and death cam spectating some fucking twat taking 20 damage pot shots 5 miles away makes my blood boil
>>338805281
I really think it's all about the length of the matches.
Balanced metas formed in LOL because investing 40 minutes into a losing match wasn't fun for the losers.
You can shrug off a 5-minute loss in Overwatch, and if you get a few kills out of it, you might not care.
It feels like a design-flaw.
I always play Hanzo on defense and only defense, never offense.
There's nothing more satisfying than providing more wallhax time PLUS fucking scatter arrow and great normal arrows. Put that together with a 'fuck this general direction' ult and he's super fun.
Other picks when someone else wants to play a sniper are Symmetra and Junkrat.
>>338799123
>mercy, reinhardt, lucio, symmetra are useless
Spotted a future bronzie.
>enemy team has 2 Soldiers
>when you're on the objective and you hear:
>"I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS"
>"I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS"
>>338805281
>it's a "teammates die at different times and never group up, so there's only one person contesting the control point at any given time" episode
I found out today why I only want to play with friends
>>338804220
Backfield Bastion on attack is still very good as long as the Bastion is on point and constantly moving. A good Bastion on attack can make it ridiculously difficult for the defending team to regain momentum.
Bastion can also be amusing on hard-to-crack defense points like Hanamura point B, because he stresses the defending team simply by existing. No defending team wants a Bastion to be able to set up and wipe the point.
>>338805047
>Pleb tier
>Mei
>Bastion
You surely don't play the game, do you?
>>338805262
This is why I'm waiting to see what comp is like.
>join game with friends
>4/6 premade group
>pub picks junkrat
>friend picks junkrat
>"ey yo man we dont need doubles"
>other friends pick junkrat in response
>i rage and pick junkrat
>4/6 junkrats
>wheels fucking everywherewe won hard
>>338805361
I basically bounce between Mercy (preferable) and Reinhardt. Its very rare that I get in a game where both support and tank are taken by someone else
>>338802180
>>338798865
i would argue that reinhardt, junkrat, roadhog, zenyatta, mei and genji are the most fun heroes to play of them all
(even if you need a good to decent team to enjoy playing rein, zenyatta or mei)
>>338799585
I've played mercy more than every other character combined because of this shit. I wish people would pick support every once in a while.
>>338805356
It's difficult in that you always seem to be fighting 1 vs 6 because of how poorly composed and shit your team is
>>338805601
I went up against a team of six junkrats. We won in the end but all the bombs everywhere was nuts and kind of intimidating.
>>338805093
Bastions smg does more damage then Soldier 76. If you can land headshots it melts lighter characters.
>>338805601
Yabbie Huntaz
>play alone, do okay
>play with friends, get raped 7 games in a row
All my friends are shit I guess
>games is in overtime
>our team is dead except 3 players
>one is sniping another sniper
>a tank is chasing tracer for some retarded reason
>the third is just hiding so his kd doesn't get ruined
>enemy team captures the payload.
As infuriating as people falling back when the payload is reaching a checkpoint.
>>338805697
RIPwheel/10 would do it again. It was actually a lot of fucking fun with everyone just spamming balls everywhere. Def recommend a lucio healer though
Damn, I feel bad hearing about all you anons playing support/tank because you want to round out your team, even though you want to play something else. I'll play your supports any day of the week.
>>338805093
His recon mode gun is very close to Soldier's in DPS and higher than most of the cast. It's less accurate at range but with the distance you'll be fighting in Recon mode this doesn't matter much. Added with his larger than normal health and some of that being armoured he can easily win a lot of 1v1s. He's the bulkiest character in the game after the tanks with good damage output too.
>>338798756
This is exactly why I did not buy this. I predicted this would happen.
I wonder how ranked is going to work in this game. Will you just play a map once and the team that wins gets points or whatever, or will each team have to switch sides like in CS?
>>338805805
My friends play nothing but MOBAs and CS:GO and unsurprisingly enough win 80% of the games we play together.
>>338805610
Those are my top played characters as well. I don't mind because I enjoy playing them but I can imagine it sucking for people who don't like support.
It sucks shit when there no healer or tank. You can only fill one slot yourself and then there's a big fucking gap in your team composition.
>>338805356
Yes because you always get put on the shit team, like in every other game.
I don't see how this can be resolved but man I sure would love for it to be.
>no options to gift the game
How am I gonna play this if my autistic virgin "friends" can't buy me the game?yes, London. This is also how I get new games without spending money.
>>338805958
Yeah dude you just happen to always get put with the shitters. Totally.
>>338805583
Only plebs use those, the equivalent of Little Bird babies.
>>338805959
Get a physical copy ya dingus
>>338799585
This happens much too often for me to the point where I'm switching between Lucio and Reinhardt/Zarya between games because everyone is either defense or offense.
I swear to god a good dozen of the games I've played recently have been won because I was healing or blocking damage.
>>338805953
I like playing Mercy but I don't care for tanking. I just do it when someone else grabs a support before me and no one's going tank.
I do revel in those votes though
>playin reinhardt
>defense on Hollywood, first point
>match starts, enemy team all runs right, into the building
>sitting at back door, shield up and push into the upstairs with a Soldier 76 and Mercy behind me
>turn corner, see all 6 enemies, engage charge
>pin their Mei as I charge through all of them and down the hallway, killing her on impact with the way
>turn around and Q, knocking the other 5 down
>swing away
>play of the game
didn't expect this game to be this much fun
It is going to take time for Overwatch to form a proper metagame.
Remember when LoL first began (of course you don't, you're underage), but back in the early days of the game it was not uncommon to find random games containing 5 carries and a """jungler""".
Now even most random teams consist of at least a support, a single AD carry and an AP of some sort as well as a bruiser for top-lane.
It takes time for people to realize that there is a reason roles exist.
But they will eventually.
>>338805840
In an ironic twist of fate, Bastions smg shuts down Roadhog HARD. His big fat hitbox lets Bastion do full damage from quite a distance away despite the spread. It also does more damage the 76's rifle.
>>338805805
Are they playing it like it's a military shooter?
To anyone who has been complaining about loot boxes: I got this drop at level 5.
You can't really blame Blizzard for milking retards.
>>338806136
I don't wanna wait a whole week for this game.
>>338799201
>steamroll a 5 winston and 1 lucio team
>they all quit
>>338806076
It sure feels like it when you're the only one that gets a card at the end
>>338805002
If no one ever follows a charge then is it a good charge? That's right, it is not.
How do you hit people with Reinhardt's charge? It seems so obvious, not only do people walk out of my charges all the time, but I have dodged about 90% of the reins who charged me. like shield goes down, you just strafe because you know he's either gunna charge or try to ult you.
>>338802286
Same here. Every team I played with/against was somewhat balanced, even efficient. maybe mericans are really stupids.
>game is out for 1 day
>expect everyone to be good
just level up and get better yourself and youll start getting matched up with people who know what they're doing
>>338806307
Maek kontak
>>338806167
>Damage Healed: Large Number
>votes votes votes votes
>>338801860
mei dies to flashbang fan
>>338806307
You do it in places where they have limited movement, or when they are occupied with another enemy.
>>338805959
Are you retarded?
>buy digital copy
>get keyword
>copy/paste said key
You must be baiting, no one can be this dumb
>>338806307
If you can time it, you can crouch jump, and if Rein hits you at the height of the jump, you will bounce away. No dodging even needed. It's not terribly hard to do.
>>338806307
I only do it if there's a bunch of people in my way and I'm more or less guaranteed to hit something.
>>338806376
What if they added an extra end-game vote for the POTG?
Imagine how shit that would be.
What are some good Roadhog Counters? Nothing I try against him will put him down.
>>338805502
>I always play Hanzo
trash
>>338806356
Pushing the payload instead of gunning for kills is not rocket science, neither is defending a contested point.
>>338806356
This. I noticed it in beta, and just started noticing it tonight. Most people don't realize how bad they are because of how the game is presented, every hero feels powerful and thus everyone thinks they are doing a lot. My career profile shits on most people I see at the moment.
>>338806507
He's a tough motherfucker.Bastionworks because in turret-form you can usually simply out-endure him.
Other than that, you any hero that can bait out the hook, or a good sniper will do.
>>338806507
Roadhog.
>get into match
>i instalock genji
>someone complains
>22 eliminations including a game saving ult
>we win
>POTG
>>338806507
He's essentially a tanky anti-tank. Stay at range and bait the hook. The hook is not quick so you can easily just step out of the way.
>>338806507
I tend to focus less on killing Roadhog and more on just using him as my own personal Ultimate battery, then use the Ultimate to either kill him or his teammates.
Seriously, his massive hitbox, healthpool and self-healing feed the enemy team so much Ult charge. Biggest downside to him imo. Take advantage of it if he's on the enemy team.
>that guy that's too bitter to vote for enemy team or support or not vote at all because he's not up there.
>>338806507
Maybe a tracer if you have enough space to fuck with him or a pharah
>>338806507
If you can trap him with Junkrat, or anyone for that matter, you can melt him.
I would say Mei and Bastion as well. I've had some success with Zarya too.
>>338806507
Anybody that can put the hurt on at range.
He's so big that characters that could not otherwise do decent damage at range can really mess him up. Characters like 76, Mcree, Torbjorn, Pharah,Bastion, and definitely Widowmaker.
Every match I've played with all Tracers was a win.
>>338806507
pharah
as long as you stay away from the hook he just eats rockets
>>338799123
this
Threadly reminder that if you're not up for vote after every match, you're a disappointment to your entire family.
>>338806209
You're really not helping when you brag about getting lucky. You're just enticing retards even more into buying those micro-transactions.
>>338806507
Get right on his face, never fails
