>kill host
>he mashes alt + F4
>he's still dead
>I don't get any rewards
DS webm & pvp thread
>>338636865
You get the reward of knowing he's one step closer to being softbanned.
>>338636865
>wanting a shitty catalyst
>not invading for the satisfaction of killing cowards
>>338636865
I'll be honest, when the host ragequits, it's the greatest feeling you can get. Maybe winning an entire 4vs1 could be better, but I've never done it.
>invading
>not being a glorious defender of waifus and hosts as a blade of the darkmoon or sentinel
Now that we know about making a family sharing account to get priority summons for blueberries, you have no excuse.
>>338637593
That's pretty good too desu
>>338637636
That is impossible for most people to do.
>>338637801
Not my fault they're playing on the wrong platform, senpai
>>338637673
Surprise drop attacks are the best kills.
>>338638038
I also enjoy bridge kills
>>338637673
excellent
>>338638537
Not only was that a satisfying way to kill him but you likely showed him something he might have never noticed before too. You were teaching by killing.
>>338638537
Sadly I've never gotten this to work. It seems nowadays when they see they've been invaded they just take the side path.
>>338637242
You don't get softbanned for D/Cing.
>>338636865
>invading for rewards
You're doing it wrong
>>338636865
maybe you shouldn't be an asshole and ruin runs then desu
>point of the covenant is to fight enemies, host and phantoms
>can't invade and kill enemies for farm and giggles
fuck
>>338638906
This. Though honestly a 24 hour softban for doing it would be stupendous.
>>338638825
DEEPEST lore.
>>338638947
He was giving the run some extra flavor. Being invaded makes it more thrilling.
>>338638947
>ruins runs
>by killing
>in a game where death is essentially meaningless
If you wanna see somebody ruin your day go play DeS
>>338638847
It takes a lot of patience, when I was doing this they'd always wander in right after I was about to go home.
>>338638537
>not waving or otherwise gesturing before he falls
I'm gonna have to dock points for that
>>338638906
Yes you do. If you alt f4 too much from online games, a message notifies you that you no longer can access online stuff (admittedly I don't know to what extent), and have to restore your connection with a way of white circlet.
>>338637636
How would joining darkmoon make you a defender of waifus?
>>338639110
>Scraping spear
>You can scare the host's crystal lizards away permanently
>Do the full boss for somebody and still get a shit rating from them afterwards
man, fuck des multiplayer
>>338639330
Because most people have their ashen one be a waifu. As a darkmoon your goal is to defend the host from villainous reds and purples.
>>338637636
>darkmoon or sentinel
>be a blade of the Darkmoon or a sentinel
>never ever get summoned
This is why I invade people. It's easier to try to ruin other people's time than to help save them.
>>338638984
But you can.
>Invade Great Swamp
>Spawn on castle decoration
>Watchdog below me gutting host
>Dive kill him with Smough hammer, miss host
>Thank you carving to a host standing there stunned as I fade
>>338639276
that ending
10/10 /wave
>>338639626
What platform are you on? Steam users have an incredible workaround that grants priority blueberry covenant summons.
>>338639753
PS4. I don't even have to wait more than a couple seconds usually to get summoned as a phantom, so there's that.
>>338636865
>buy shitty autism game
>mash roll roll attack
>make 34 threads about it on /v/
dorksouls retards are the worst
What build are you running?
It looks fun, ASS twink?
>invader win like a coward = reward
>invaded defend himself with honor = no reward
this is unfair
>>338640115
>implying living and embarrassing an invader isn't reward enough.
![35EA0B28FEAEF7C4D155FA1E61310A897F725730[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GNdjGxA.jpg "35EA0B28FEAEF7C4D155FA1E61310A897F725730[1].jpg")
>>338640024
all weapons are +6
I'm going to 70
I'm thinking about switching the knight's crossbow for something faster
>>338640115
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
Go back to your CoD killstreak shit.
>>338639646
if I can invade and kill a red invader, that's good for me
>>338640115
Hiding in the shadows and killing the host and his crew when they least expect it is a hell of a lot more fun then getting ganked to death from a upfront battle.
>>338639287
that's not a softban
>>338639287
>admittedly I don't know to what extent
Can't summon, be summoned nor invade. Can still be invaded
>>338639753
tell me
>>338639110
>>338639068
>invading doesn't ruin runs
yes it does, also what if they're speedrunning?
>>338640515
With Steam you can create a family sharing account, transfer your saves to the new account and play your same characters. The point of this is that DS3 prioitizes new accounts for blueberry/furfag summons, so older accounts stay in the "back of the line".
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/
>>338640559
>speedrunning while online
>>338639753
elaborate
>>338640442
you're never been invaded by 3 guys at once, did you?
>>338640559
why are they speedrunning in online mode?
>>338640559
>also what if they're speedrunning?
Then they are colossal retards to begin with and deserve to get their shit run ruined if they can't handle a simple invasion.
why is tsorig bad at his job
>>338640559
Speedrunners do their shit offline. If you don't like being invaded you can also just not ember.
>>338640559
>do speedrun
>give a public password
>everyone tries to invade at once
I want to see this
>>338639875
>zoltan cruiser
heh
rip item
>>338640915
passwords don't affect invading
>>338636865
This happened to me twice as a watchdog. I looked at their profile and they're with the reddit group
>>338641078
Filthy clerics don't deserve loot.
this ring actually tricks people sometimes
What weapon can I use at a low level for just being an asshole? I wanna make a character for the sole purpose of ruining playthrus. So I need a high dps and range
>>338641406
Only real use I saw for that ring was invading as a squire spirit in DaS2 looking glass knight. Out of that, catching the odd retard off-guard like that is very very rare
>>338641078
>Tears of Denial
Very appropriate.
>>338641601
Estoc and dark sword.
It's not worth it though, low level weapons hit like shit and the Estus/phantom advantage is just too great early on for hosts.
Is ds3 more demanding then 2? I can run dark souls 2 pretty good with no frame drop but I am worried ds3 might be more demanding thus getting some low fps bullshit.
>>338641601
Raw Astora Straightsword is apparently the best for twinking, haven't tried it myself.
real talk: is there a fix for the half second freezes that occur every so often?
>>338640115
Invasion =/= Duel
>>338636865
>playing Dark Souls on a computer
Serves you right, dipshit!
>>338641601
Dragonslayers Axe. Creightons. Just got buffed massively, and no one has Lightning defense that early, run it raw +2, and use Gold resin for buff.
>>338639895
How old is your account?
>>338642372
you can do it with a console too
>>338642182
update your graphics driver
>>338642372
But PC is the best platform for all souls games besides Demon's.
>>338640559
quality bait 8/10
>>338642373
Fuck yes
best ring in the game
>>338642584
I heard PC is great for Bloodborne
>>338642767
Oh that's cool, I didn't know Bloodborne was a souls game.
>>338642767
Fucking retard.
>>338642675
Monkey see, monkey do.
>tfw you start winning 3 v 1 fights thanks to hunter charms
The cops come literally every time I invade, I don't know why people can't get blues to work.
>>338643336
>that fucking pyro trade at the end
STOP INVADING ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338642675
just wanted to let you know ur shit m8 if you had rolled .2 seconds sooner the host would have killed you on the drop attack.
>>338642864
>this is how PCucks compartmentalize things
Have some self respect
>>338636865
MFW I had to run to the anor londo bonfire with 2 invaders chasing me. When I got on the lift the were trying so hard to kill me then I just yanked out the ether net cable. It is so bad to do it but it felt soooo goood knowing I swindled them.
>>338643962
but i didnt do that
i rolled at the correct time
:)
>>338641938
>turning off your console to get away from invaders
>not just killing them
Seriously, are new players actually content with turning off wifi or turning off the application just to get away from invaders? Why don't you just not ember? Or actually fight the invader?
>>338644442
Youtube said invaders are scawwy :( I don't want to be trolled! Dying has so much consequence too! I'll be sent back 15 feet towards my bonfire and lose my Ember I got for summoning 3 people to kill the boss for me :(
>invade
>host +3 phantoms
>Zweihander the phantoms
>host summons more phantoms
>have to Zweihand my dick
>host Alt+F4s
I'm not even good, but goddamn you can't give up like that
>>338644442
>have a friend who doubts herself in PvP
>keeps trying to disconnect
>the few times she's in PvP she absolutely slaughters everyone but laggers
Came to realize she disconnects because she doesn't want to deal with the fact that she's a sore loser. You can't lose what you don't start. Perhaps crap like this is why people do it.
>>338640829
All the NPC invaders are, except Hodrick. That fucker is strong
>>338640730
>>338640757
>>338640810
>>338640837
>>338640915
>>338642587
being embered increases movement speed slightly
![84943D185FD338F06621B04F1878ACF56F93F996[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HBQ0XZ5.jpg "84943D185FD338F06621B04F1878ACF56F93F996[1].jpg")
fingers are the easier than mound makers by a long shot
>>338645254
what is offline mode
>>338645181
I was convinced for the longest time she dropped something, I killed her 5 times, on different characters and only on the 5th did she manage to not roll or be hit off the cliff.
>fighting the host on the first bridge in the catacombs
>he rolls off the bridge
>>338645254
and that has what to do with playing offline?
>>338640115
>tfw no invasion covenant where you feed heretics to your goddess
>any invader gets pale tounges
What's the point to putting on the fingers covenant item then?
>>338645894
Fancy title above your name.
>there are people in this thread who runs caestus+hornet ring
It's not like they're hard to deal with since strong attacks exist, but even when they land it what the fuck is fun with a ohk attack? The absolute worst is when someone sucks ass and is about to lose and pull out a parry tool from nowhere and instantly parry you. Give me a proper fight instead of flailing around your sissy limp wrist
>>338645181
every time
>>338640474
Thats a fucking based system
>>338646015
>enemy i'm fighting keeps on doing the same attack over and over and nothing else
>to the point that I parry him three times in a row
>then parry him again, then attack him normally twice
>he heals up and keeps trying it
>just end up killing him with a riposte
it's to punish shitters that don't know how to learn. same way that you delay and vary your attacks to punish parry spammers that don't know how to learn.
>>338641078
You were lucky
>>338646174
>>338646015
I run a simple caestus offhand on my pyro build because it's the lightest infusable item in the game, but hornet ring is pretty busted with heavy weapons right now.it's still borderline necessary for highish level invasions because >fighting 3 level 100 players "fairly"
>>338646387
Except most people use it as their main way to kill. It's just boring. The only redeeming factor of Souls pvp is the suspense of trading blows, spacing etc, not just baiting for parries and getting a ohk.
I think parries are slightly okay by default, they deal good damage but not insane, but then the hornet ring exists for no good reason other than to give scrubs lucky wins.
>>338641406
>doug stamper
where have i heard that name before?
>>338646872
Then don't get parried by them, vary your attacks do your best not to settle into a pattern.
I use a spear and people atuomatically assume that I'll be easy to parry, but maybe one out of twenty fights every actually get it because I just don't play to that angle. Half the time they get bored of me not attack them how they want that they just start two handing.
>>338637636
no thanks, I'd rather not be part of the no fun allowed covenants. Holy shit invading is cancer not that you're basically guaranteed to go up against 2 to 3 people at a time.
>>338647127
I very rarely do get parried, but it's still complete bullshit the rare chance it happens. I don't expect them to be able to parry immediately after getting hit on their shield. It should be a decent way to turn things around, not kill outright. Just remove that stupid ring.
Anyway I can just create a character and just get straight to a good level and unlock all areas? I just wanna have some fun builds without going through ALL the trouble of beating the game again.
>>338647505
>hitting a shield twice
This is your problem.
Don't invade for rewards. They're not worth it. The rage quit is honestly a thousand times for satisfying than a bunch of souls I don't want anyway.
...Embers are pretty good though. I still like having a massive stack of those.
>>338638906
You do actually. If you abuse it you get a message saying you can no longer access online.
They give you one white circlet to restore it as a warning.
>>338639247
Doing this is the funnest shit
Why do people revere souls PvP?
they've had how many games now and PvP STILL feels like its tacked-on?
I'm literally calculating if my "phantom range" will hit someone, not my weapon itself. The shitty netcode is like a core part of the PvP.
>>338647647
There should be slight stun on shield hits. This is a problem with this game in general. You can instantly go from hitting a giant fucking sword in the ground to parry. You just cancel any recovery animations with a parry. Pvp is such a mess
>>338647967
PvP is trash and undefendable. Only host fight clubs once in a while with friends but even that sucks.
>>338648028
>things don't work how I want
>therefore that thing is bad and should be changed because I say so.
Maybe you should try not being a shitter
>>338647820
The only covenant item worth the effort is the obscuring ring and I can get tongues easily at low levels and by farming the wraiths.
It feels good to just fuck with the host.
>>338648138
The game has bad inconsistent design, you're the shitter for defending it
>>338648028
shield stun is totally a thing though, it's why 2nd setup parrying 2h katana R1s (among other things) is unreliable on small shields
>>338648241
>I cannot alter how I play to get the results I want
>instead the system should change
Whatever you say, shitter.
i like these threads
>>338648318
I bring up good examples of why it's bad design, you just call me meme names because you honestly have no counter arguments as to why it isn't.
>>338640115
you get some souls and you didn't die that's your reward.
>>338648587
your examples are "I don't like thing" that isn't evidence, that's not even an argument, that's just an opinion, and opinions don't mean jack fucking shit.
When you're shield is hit with a weapon you are stunned, the size of your shield decididng how long it is, small shields can get fucked up, medium shields have an easier time and greatshields don't give a fuck.
Instead of just R1 spamming at people with a shield up and then getting all DSP and WOOOOOOOW at it try doing SOMETHING ELSE.
>want to PvP
>no blue eye orb
For what purpose
invading hosts with 2 or 3 phantoms has taught me one thing. How to parry. nothing is quite as pleasing as parrying a dude, killing him. parrying the second dude, killing him. then parrying the third right in front of a host and watching him turn tail and run away.
>>338636865
>>338636865
if you invade you're a faggot
>>338649709
that sounds like super fun quality gameplay anon, I like pressing my L2 button as well.
>>338649729
Just don't ember, pussy.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dav3rxf.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>338649163
>organizing my shit in church of yorshka
>forced out of bonfire
>Invaded by Mad Spirit YOUR GAY SON
>fabulous dressed guy walks in
>I bow to him
>he lies down
>doesn't move
>I squat on him
>he drops a milkring
>waves
>leaves
>>338639247
>Invade somebody.
>I know its a trap, this bridge is a damned trap.
>Start running across it.
>I see the asshole pop out.
>OH GOD HOLD DOWN DASH I CAN MAKE IT!
>Its almost ready to give way, host is standing in the way blocking.
>OH GOD YOU FUCK!
>Jump at the last minute before the bridge fell and swoose on by.
>I have Mornes hammer out.
>L2.
>BLAST THE MOTHERFUCKER RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING EDGE!
>>338645162
that shit will get her soft banned eventually, if you want to get good at pvp you're going to have to accept you'll die a lot
>>338647124
House of Cards
>>338647124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR5zFiIxqSs
>>338648325
i miss the last guardian of asgard
>>338636865
I don't understand why anyone would do this. Just fight back, what's the fucking big deal if you die anyway. Holy shit.
>>338637673
can you please share your build?
I tried making a pyromancer build but I've royally fucked it up and this seems fun
>>338637636
I'm still pissed that they changed Darkmoon. Where the fuck is my blue eye orb. I don't wanna gank invaders.
>>338650963
I already did
>>338640310
>>338651107
just saw that, thanks friend
I've been unplugging the network cable every time I get invaded since the game came out.
I haven't been soft banned at all, what the fuck are you people on about? I still see blood stains, messages and phantom summons just fine.
Yesterday I just did some co-op with my cousin because he just bought the game and wanted to bro it up, so unless shadowbans are a load of bullshit, too.
So who the fuck keeps spreading all these bullshit lies?
>>338652241
>I've been unplugging the network cable every time I get invaded since the game came out.
why tho
>>338652368
He's a little bitch.
>>338652368
Because I don't want to be bothered by invaders?
I don't enjoy that part of the game so I choose to be a carebear instead.
>>338652562
You can just play offline.
What weapons do you use when invading?
>Invading before the Deacons of the Deep bonfire
>Fag and his Sunfag taunting me
>Fag runs to summon more phantoms
>Sunfag runs at me swinging R1 parry his ass
>Sunfag gets up and does the same thing
>Summons Horace
>Beat the ever loving shit out of him
>Summons Anri
>Force her off into the elevator shaft
>Blue Sentinel Summoned
>Turns out to be another R1 masher
>Fag summons his buddy again
>Kill his friend again
>Finally get to fight the host after 20 mins
>Kill him within 2 mins
Jesus Christ, nobody should ever have to go through all this just to invade. It's like they are handing out wins to the host. Shits infuriating.
>>338652562
I bet you also used to open your eyes and peek when playing hide and seek, you little bitch
>>338652625
but he has to summon because the bosses are too hard
>>338648325
Why do casters always carry the candle in their right hand?
>>338652241
>buy trendy multiplayer game
>dont use multiplayer
>>338652625
Offline doesn't have co-op.
Point is, bans appear to be a fabrication. DC at will, don't use cheats though.
>>338652241
This is bait. No literally, it's bait. Don't fall for it.
>>338648325
Fucking brilliant
>>338652716
>>338652824
So you want all the pros of playing online with no cons?
Yeah, you are a little bitch.
>>338652704
They really should have made purple phantom summon signs indistinguishable from regular white ones just to punish people who panic summon when they get invaded.
I wish tackle was a little bit faster.
>>338636865
>Invade group of phantoms
>Kill all the phantoms
>Host runs to summon more
>Can't fight without his phantoms ayy lmao
>Disconnects as he dies
This is what I play for.
>>338647967
Most people I know invade to just fuck around. I haven't seen too many people that actually take Souls pvp seriously. With some balance and tweaks souls pvp could be good. I think the next souls game should put a heavy emphasis on pvp, the pve aspect of souls gets boring quick when you learn how to roll out of all dangers.
>>338652942
Keep being upset I choose not to participate in <1% of the game.
Every time I unplug I imagine there's a baby on the other end foaming in impotent rage and it pleases me.
>>338653418
I doubt anyone feels rage about your faggotry, it's more like pity.
>>338643962
>you're shit because you rolled correctly
hello anon are you ok
>>338653046
That is actually a good idea, but I've encountered a lot of mad phantoms that will just attack reds on sight anyway. Hell i've even had reds that attack me. I wear the untrue dark ring but still its not that hard to tell the difference. Seems like I only attract the worst kind of players in DS3
>>338654268
Sometimes I have to take the fucking ring off for a second before they understand I'm not the host
>>338652718
candle gives bonus sorcery damage
guy in the webm is probably off-handing the staff so he can use weapon buffs
>>338652718
25% magic damage buff
nonverbal communication is the best
>>338647967
it's a fun format, the shit netcode is something we put up with because no other game does pvp like this
>>338648325
Holy fuck I didnt know you could aim it.
>>338655543
>the shit netcode is something we put up with
yeah desu...
>>338653418
Or some guy wanting to enjoy the game he paid for that you just disconnected out of.
Guess your playstyle is more valid than theirs though?
>>338656098
Notice he aims with his bow first, then switches to magic. This is day one shit, anon. Can also do it with the binoculars.
>>338649163
>>338653608
Don't lie to yourself, you wouldn't be crying on /v/ if you weren't mad af.
>>338657036
what a shit weapon
>3 way split damage
fucking From
>>338653310
>I haven't seen too many people that actually take Souls pvp seriously.
Never been to /vg/, have you?
>>338639276
holy shit that ending
Why does Mound Makers feels like a good idea for a covenant but it was poorly implemented?
>The host can kill you without the Mound player even laying a finger on him
>No incentive for the host to ever summon you and risk getting betrayed when he could just call a sunbro or regular phantom and call it a day.
>>338658437
>>No incentive for the host to ever summon you and risk getting betrayed when he could just call a sunbro or regular phantom and call it a day.
I think that is the biggest problem. If I can even trust you going down a ladder, then why would I summon you into my world when there is already some red phantom probably going to invade me
>>338658437
not to mention
>spawning in a group of enemies that will be hostile towards you
tried to help out at the catacombs only to eat shit from the billions of skeletons by the bridge
>Forest Watching
>Invade some guy that's farming invaders with a twinkfag friend with Got Hards
>Style on twinkfag with the hollowslayer GS
>he's literally chugging 3 flask for one mine
>sneak kill the host
>twinkfag attacks me out of frustation
>he gets grabbed by crab as i vanish
>>338658437
People summon mound-makers all the time, especially early game. I had a character with 80+ shackles before level 35 in road of sacrifices. Although some people treat it just like a red sign, many treat it like co-op and will go with you all the way to the boss. I've had hosts let me kill them for helping them too. Personally, I'd rather kill invaders for the host so its always hilarious when you get summoned by a bro who uses finger for shenanigans.
>>338658835
I think being summoned as a mad phantom making you hostile to the host is a mistake.
I like the free for all aspect with phantoms, but to put down a white (purple) soapstone sign and be hostile to the host doesn't make a lot of sense
>>338643962
Even if he did the host would still die by fall damage and he'd get his reward, you fucking spastic.
>>338658995
as a matter of principle I kill aldritch faithfuls as a mound maker no matter what
>>338649163
Yo that's my webm.
Glad someone saved it
ANIMEEEE!!!!
>>338659257
Aldritch faithfuls are little assholes
>>338659602
oh god he had the dark sword too
what a justice boner I have
I hate this game sometimes, but you can't help but laugh.
>>338660013
NANI?!
my butthole was so tight here
>be Aldrich Faithful in Anor Londo
>Invade as a regular red
>another AF already there
>he's getting tag teamed by the host and a yellow
>sit back and watch
>blue sentinel joins in
>jump down and help out
>host on the run
>fucking purple out of nowhere
>gankers become the gankees
I love being evil
>Greatbow+Obscuring Ring
Now I feel like a MGS boss.
>>338660434
even though they are easy to deal with, i still get tense af when i see them raise those branding irons my way
>>338660258
factually correct version
>>338660750
yeah if you get hit you start fatrolling and their next attack can kill you outright if you don't roll.
Why would someone care about dying in Dark Souls 3?
>Lose kindle
>Lose souls
>Lose progress
None of these are really that punishing. You can always get rekindled pretty easily, souls are even easier to come by, and you're never very far from a bonfire. So what is the big deal?
But even if they do what has the invader really lost? A covenant item and a few minutes of time? Also not a big deal.
For a fan base that prides themselves on being hardcore they sure do make a big deal out of nothing.
heh
>>338660779
Where's the grape?
>>338661208
no, the mist they release makes you fat roll
>Walking around the road of sacrifices's Swamp
>*You where invaded by yellowfinger heysel*
>oh boy here she go-
>*You where invaded by Watchdog dude*
>Holy sh-
>*You where invaded by Watchdog anothet dude*
Its funny how i was raped to death and no blue sentinel showed up UNTIL i popped another ember after getting bukkake'd
>>338661886
really? I usually get a backstab while that's happening. I have no idea so you could be right.
>>338659421
THEY'RE SINKING CITIES WITH A GIANT WORM!
>>338661886
This is false.
Man souls pvp is such awful looking trash.
>>338657775
They really wrecked split damage this time around
It wasn't that bad in DaS2
>it's a "host starts to lagswitch and still gets rekt" episode
>>338662578
And somehow MLGS hits like a fucking truck since the patch. Baiting people into the special is ludicrously easy.
>>338662268
This is because of intercontinental matchmaking. Hit detection is client-side so you're getting hit from where you were 0.3 seconds ago because FromSoft can't into region locking.
>>338662063
>get invaded by two watchdogs at almost the same time
>manage to kill one
>another one takes his place immediately after
I'm pretty sure the swamp is the only place in this game where the invader has the upper hand.
>>338661475
Hiding in the corner until someone is low on health.
>>338647967
>revere souls PvP
nah the only people that do that are the tryhards and the twitch.tv + youtube tryhards trying to make a buck off it. nobody gave a fuck about des or ds pvp when it came out beyond the memers
people just enjoy making cheese builds because its fun, there's a good few broken builds in DS2 that will just shit on anything in 8/10 cases that are unbelievably OP. no one cares, it's just fun
the tryhard bro level mlg, republic of gamers type twitch streamers largely ruin any kind of multiplayer game they get into, hence why you now have gank squads that just blow someone away before they're even summoned
you have the dota and league moba communities to thank for those shitters
>phantom range calculation
do yourself a massive favor and stop caring, learn some basic duel strats at most. that will win you 50% of duels or so, then laugh at the hackers and tryhards
>>338662741
It's because it's mostly magic damage that gets boosted by all sorts of stuff and most people have lower magic defense than physical
>>338662741
The special hits for the full amount of the weapon in the beam, physical and magical combined, as solely magical. If you then hit them with the blade also you hit for twice the normal amount of damage. That's why it hits like a truck.
>demons' souls introduces the concept of backstabs
>whole purpose is so that opponents can't just turn their back to you and run away
>backstabs remain in DaS1 and DaS2 and still meet this purpose
>DaS3 comes out
>delay in backstab animation results in 100% chance of whiff if you try to backstab a fleeing enemy
>entire original purpose is now cast away
>every invasion comes down to a battle of attrition as your opponent will always run away when health is low and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it
>every invasion drags on for hours, low energy as fuck
FIX THIS SHIT FROM
>>338640310
As someone with a full on 40/40 faith/int pyro build, I strongly recommend using the Fire Clutch Ring. The absorption reduction isn't that meaningful, and the damage increased is very noticeable and applies to ALL forms of fire damage you do.
>>338663223
Fuck off. Backstabs have been shit since day 1 and should never have been allowed in PvP because of lag
>>338663223
>not using black firebombs
>>338663887
Regardless of how you feel about backstabs, this was their original intended purpose and it served this purpose well. Now we still have backstabs, but they can't serve this fundamental purpose, and it results in eye-rolling pvp that basically just comes down to "spam attack, get hit, run away to heal, run back in, rinse and repeat". It's not fun. It's just fucking tedious.
>>338664205
Lagstabs were still worse. They should at least have kept the healing like in DS2 where you regen your health slowly so you don't instantly go back to full. Maybe even have it so you stop regenerating if you take a hit while it's going on or make you drop an estus charge
>>338664404
PVP needs to be more difficult for the host. I'd love to see Estus go back to slow heal, Lloyd's talismans having a larger aoe and longer duration, and summoning signs disappear when you get invaded.
...Didn't DaS1 make summoning signs disappear when you get invaded?
>>338664404
The point I'm making is that you're making a false dichotomy. "you can either have lagstabs or opponents who are free to run away forever, pick your poison". this simply isn't true. If I'm following directly behind a fleeing opponent and I'm right on his ass the entire time, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to backstab. If theres ANY time I should be able to backstab, it's that.
>>338658437
When I first saw grapes I thought their thing was placing trap white summon signs, but nope. I never really summon grapes unless I want to fight them. I might start summoning them when I start my NG+ dried finger clusterfuck run.
>>338664640
Make it so the host can summon one phantom per invader in his game when he gets invaded. If he already has one he gets no new summons nor does he get to resummon one that died. Also, go back to the DS2 way where friendly phantoms couldn't drink estus if the host was invaded
>>338664809
This. I thought their original intention was to make it so you could pick a white soapstone and accidentally summon a purple drank.
But no. It's basically just a pvp honorable duel covenant with giant seed permanently on.
>>338664773
Well come up with a way to keep backstabs while still making lagstabs impossible then. From sure can't despite having four games to fix it
Some one recommend me a good pvp faith build
I'm running a raw Flamberge to carry me through the whole game
>inb4 faith is shite in DS3
>>338665117
Sure. Have a "whiff" start-up like there is now, but it only checks for angle and not for distance. So if I do the animation and you continue to walk forward during it, I still register a backstab. But if we're both constantly spinning in circles around each other (as what happens with backstab fishing) then you just get the whiff and not the connect, because I moved to the side out of the way.
It wouldn't completely solve the problem, because you could still roll side-to-side to prevent backstabs, but it would prevent people form straight-up sprinting away with 100% success rate.
>>338665304
faith has always been shit though. It's an entire stat that's only good for weapon buffs and wrath of the gods.
>>338639247
i hope that blue didn't get his reward
>>338665304
The new flavor of faith is raw dragonslayer axe with lightning blade and maybe sacred oath. Make sure you're wearing lightning clutch. That gives you pretty much the highest lightning damage possible on a weapon.
>>338640747
100% your fault, you ember up and/or use dried finger, you get what's coming to you
>>338646009
This, can't believe you don't wanna serve the waifu goddess. Rosaria is bae
>get invaded
>send them to the moon
>playing with a friend summoned as a white phantom
>invader shows up
>challenges friend to an "honorabru duel"
>friend duels him
>watch the duel from up on a ledge nearby
>friend dies
>invader stops to drink, thinking he's going to duel me next
>while he's chugging Estus, take a flying leap off the ledge and kill him with a falling attack
Honorablefags are hilarious
Why is this weapon still in the game?
>>338663430
Clutch rings have been confirmed shit. In PvE it gives you 15% more elemental damage and 10% less physical absorption but in PvP it gives you 7.5% elemental damage and 15% less physical absorption. The physical absorption is actually really important so using the rings is just not worth for the small extra damage you get.
>>338665304
If you plan on using sunlight spears or any offensive miracle, use the sunlight talisman. The weapon art gives you poise when casting so you can use it when someone gets up close and they take a sunlight spear to the face.
>>338660494
Mah nigga. I love it when they sit down waiting and get an arrow the size of a tree in their face.
>>338665304
You're going to need 60 faith if you want to deal good lightning spear damage. Also the saint's talisman has good faith scaling and decent spell buffing for a talisman. They have better weapon arts than chimes so don't even think about murdering Yorshka.
I did 1000 damage to one poor soul with my sunlight spear and killed him. Neither of us were expecting that.
>>338664205
Use a weapon with a long running R1 like a katana, halberd or spear. Also learn to frame trap when people are roll spamming, you'll hit them every time if you get the timing done.
>Dark Souls 1 on PS3
>get invaded in the forest
>I immediately exit game
How salty do people get?
>>338668493
If you were the first faggot to do that?
It's probably something like "Oh he dced."
If you were the 5th or 10th?
"Fucking piece of shit fromsoft fix theseload times"
