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Explain to me how this game got away with it.
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Explain to me how this game got away with it.
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>>338622268
Catboi pussy
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Being on consoles.
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>>338622268
It didn't, it's lost most of its subs and is getting by on newbies, ERP and autism.
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>>338622268
Catgirl pussy
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>>338622268
>japs creating mmos
every time
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Delicious Lalafells
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Got away with what?

It's pretty much the only MMO I was able to get into.
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finally
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>>338622958
kek
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Erping, weebs, and fashion simulator.

Shits boring as fuck otherwise.
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>>338622268
Steady content patches every few months which each content patch givine you about a month's time to do things. People get bored of the next 2 months after because theres nothing they have to do unless they are raiding end game content, but after that period is over, people always come back for patches.

Like right now people would probably be bored as shit of the game but once 3.3 launches this june its going to be filled with threads for a few days.
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>>338622268
wowfugee boogeymang
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It just feels good to play. And the story is really neat. Plus catgirls.
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>>338622268
1.0 was such a huge failure that A Realm Reborn looks like Jesus Christ next to it.

Anyways, the game needs more midcore content. There's only casual faceroll content and savage poopsocking mode, there's barely any content that's inbetween difficulty speaking.
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Mainly because WoW got even worse than it somehow.
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Garuda tits.
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WoW got worse at the same time 2.X got better and better. WoW continued to get worse, but 3.X is slowly getting worse and worse.

Not as fast as WoW though. Which is a shame because there are still too many WoWfugees shitting up the game.
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>>338625725
>tits
>not ass
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>>338626695
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>>338626540
I just started Heavensward a couple of weeks ago. Hostly, I feel like it's a lot better than the majority of the main ARR content so far.

What makes it get worse and worse?
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>>338622268
3 month patch cycles and the game isn't pay to win
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>>338627008
>3 month patch cycles
>finish everything worthwhile within a week
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>>338627075
Where's your savage clear
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>>338627239
Fuck off Yoshi.

That's right, I forgot you arent allowed to complain about this game unless you complete that 0.001% of the game that caters to autists.
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>>338627002
It is focusing on the casual side too much and cut its patch content down from 2.0. In 2.0 you got 2 new dungeons and a hardmode. Now you get 1 new dungeon and 1 hardmode. It makes the mind numbing weekly grind even more so. It also doesn't help that they put resources into dumb, buggy shit like Lords of Verminion, instead of actual content elsewhere.

I like Heavensward, but some of their design philosophy this expansion has been pretty shit. They need some more middle of the road content that people can enjoy.
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>>338627413
You can't say you finished everything worthwhile until you cleared Savage Brutal Justice.
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>>338627458
4.0 is going to fix everything
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>>338626892
Did the humor ever translate to the japs?
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>>338628067
yea
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>>338622958
>cancerous western developers
>excell at a cancerous genre
KEKS KEEP COMING
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>>338628067
Not sure what exact words they translate to for Japs, so I can't say.
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>>338627979
Thank god they are dropping PS3
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Can I rape and/or marry Y'shtola?
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>>338622268
C@
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fucking /vg/ general faggots getting in here now.
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>>338628328
RIP decade old console

PS3 players suck ass in this game anyways
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>>338629120
What's wrong with this cat? Is she in pain?
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>>338630964
heat
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Among everything else, it helps that the story (as of Heavensward, at least), is pretty well done, especially for a MMORPG story. Keeps me coming back for each patch at least.

>that Rabuahn duel in the 3.2 story, complete with referencing your rank if you're in the Immortal Flames
My dick was on fire in more ways than one.
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>>338631434
>tfw Adder master race crushing Raubhan without taking any damage
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Got away with what now?
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>>338631434
I feel like the Heavensward story was a massive step up. The main ARR story was kind of eh. Not bad but not astounding either, pretty generic stuff.

The thing that helps Heavensward is that it builds off one of the more interesting plot points in the ARR stuff (the whole Ishgard/Dravanian conflic). Probably one of the only points in ARR that I actually had interest in the story, along with the shit leading up to Heavensward.
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>>338622268
No real competition besides WoW, constant updates after the failure of 1.0, eventually leading to 2.0 which while a failure for some was a business success overall. Bigger question is how long will this game stay alive.
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>>338625725

>there will never be a Garuda Savage

in saying that, 2.0 was so good. I do hope they see that the model for ARR is better than HW and do something to shift it close to how it was.

And maybe do a some more Coil related shenanigans.
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>>338622268
It didn't, it never made it past 600k subs and now dropped as low as 400k if not 300k. It never made it to 1 million subs and that's pathetic for any modern day MMO, even TOR had 1 million at one point.

It barely keeps itself afloat because weeb faggots love to eat shit and buy useless cash shop shit and merchandise. That's what's really keeping the game alive, not their laughable number of subs.
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>>338624682
Make sure you quote the word "content" there. We were stuck on final coil for like 8 months while we kept getting stupid "content" such as a pug 20 man brain dead raid or that fucking golden place.
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Still having fun. A little worried that SE is going to balance everything around the dumb endgame raids killing all class identity other than "Tank, healer, melee and ranges DPS'.
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>>338632654
>t. angry wowfag
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>>338633539
>t. Squeenix weebcuck
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>>338632274
The interesting story content in ARR was with Coil, which Heavensward also expands upon in a way.

Another good thing that helps out the story is by the time the 1-60 story is complete, everyone knows you're the absolute shit and win battles just by showing up.
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low level content is fucking atrocious

gladiator and lancer is literally mashing two buttons until level 30
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>>338622268
The previous version was so bad that any improvement would be a huge improvement
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>>338623108
Back to /vg/ you faggot
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Is there a genre more stagnant than MMOs?

Even first person shooters are changing it up a bit with DOOM and Overwatch and shit. I can't think of a single step in the right direction with any MMO in recent memory.
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>>338632654
>Source: My ass
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>>338634871
Mostly because MMOs take a huge cost risk so to ensure some profit, they all want to copy WoW, to the point weve kind of forgotten what a non-WoW MMO looks/plays like. The genre just needs to crash for a yr or two and reset itseelf, hopefully not be this hand-holdy all quests/instance shit that it is today.
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>>338634926
>>Source proving other wise: Your ass
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>>338634871

RTS is dead thanks to ASSFAGGOTs. Even that subgenre has been failing pretty hard outside of DOTA and LoL
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i know it wasnt the best but man

i kinda miss warhammer online
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So, I have a 60 day time card for this game. Square really fucking region locks their time cards, so I can't use it. It's European, would anyone be willing to buy it for 15 usd? I'll suck it up and lose out on it, I just want to get at least one month out of it.
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>>338635268

lel. Not him but you usually show prove to ... well prove something. Not tell other people to prove otherwise.

I mean I can't just say you're a faggot and expect you to post a pic fucking a girl so you prove otherwise can I ?
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>>338632654
>faggots love to eat shit and buy useless cash shop shit and merchandise.


people who play wow do this too so whats your point
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>>338622268
the MSQ is a good enough single player experience, to keep people invested in story and endgame isn't daunting enough anymore as to drive people away.

it just needs better large scale content other than FATEs
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>>338634871
>spend 5 years making an MMO
>nobody plays it because its not WoW
>or nobody plays it because its too similar and ill just play WoW instead
>make literally any other kind of game and get a bigger return

also who the fuck aspires to make an MMO? the creative people go to literally any other game.
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>>338622708

It's filled with faggots, weebs that all live in trailers, work at walmart, own Ps3's and hate on heteros. The poor people play it so they can have meaningful lives, everyone else just collects transmog and mounts, it's literally warcraft 2.0

But it is worth playing for a few months due to how much playtime you'll get with it just doing the main story and a few raids
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>>338635987
I work at walmart. Easy as fuck, I'm in the freezer section and we make 10 dollars starting because of the cold. minimum wage is 7.25 in the us

I literally spend like 30 minutes in the freezer restocking shit early on and then do nothing the rest of the day. It's a neighborhood walmart that's pretty slow, everyone's chill too. I don't know why people love to give shit to walmart.
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>>338636165

> someone insults Walmart

> autistically defends it

> happy about $10 an hour


I'm dying here
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>>338635952

Read the story of that guy who worked on the Lego MMO.

Shit like that would cause me to just walk away from game development.
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I've heard the Yo-Kai Watch content will only be available to people level 15 or up. If I join now, will I be able to do the quests by the time they come out?
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>>338634606
try blm
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>>338636407
I'm not defending walmart, I'm asking why people hate on it. It's not a fucking career, it's just a part time job. 10 dollars for a job that requires literally no skill or effort is pretty good.
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where can I find a good, non-cancer server/fc?

I was on ultros until I quit back in august, getting an itch to resub now that 3.3 is on the horizon and I heard that ZR is just shit now

>>338636782
You could get to level 15 in less than a day. The patch is in two weeks.

There's also a trial that lets you level every class up to 20 if you want.

>>338636738
post it, I'm curious
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>>338636993
Are you EU? Would you like to buy a time card from me, 60 days I bought it off g2a and didn't realize the cards are fucking region locked.

I'd do like 15 usd for it.
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>>338636928

Because just about every Walmart you walk into is filled with the shittiest people in retail.

Granted there are probably some decent white ones, but nearly all of them are filled with useless niggers acting niggery.

There's also the real hate for the Walmart family, which in turn may cause or contribute to some people's shitty attitude there.
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Man, I used to play this game all the time, some time after patch 3.1 it lost it's magic. The Heavensward story/leveling experience was great, end-game was fun for a bit, but not having the relic quests out at launch put me off.

All in all I enjoyed my time, and it's a pretty good game. I might resub at the end of Heavensward just to see the rest of the story.
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>>338637162
>Granted there are probably some decent white ones, but nearly all of them are filled with useless niggers acting niggery.

Sounds like a regional issue. There are no blacks where I work. The only minorities we have are a few patels working the pharmacy.
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>>338637083
Nah, US.

Yeah, the region locking is lame.

Kinda unrelated, but I didn't know that you couldn't carry over an account you made on Steam onto the non-Steam client, so I spent like forty hours leveling in the trial, only to lose all that time when I actually bought the damn game.
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>>338637348

Yeah, that's usually the main issue, even in good suburban white areas the niggers come to work at walmart and just make it all niggery and shitty

you'd really have to go to a very high-end area that may be doing very selective hiring.

I've been to walmarts in above middle class wonderful areas but most of the employees are black because they travel far to work, granted they aren't shitholes, but they're not that great either.
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>>338622268

Like every other FF game. Marketing and hype. But the hype has worn off and with it, so has the subs.

The world design and music was some of the best in the FF series, if not the best. And somehow the game made Hobbits cute. But aside from those points, the rest of the game was pretty bad. There's no incentive to revisit areas outside of doing a daily quest or leve. The story is as facepalm worthy as the other FF games, if not more. And like all WoW clones, the end game is just raiding and crafting, which this game somehow did worse than WoW.

Dragon Quest X would have done better than this game in the long run.
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If the Dragonsong War is supposed to end in 3.3, where will the story go for the remaining two patches? Buildup for 4.0?
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>>338638080
alexander leaves his lake and does the bahamut calamity 2.0 please look forward to be exited
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>>338637919
>But the hype has worn off and with it, so has the subs.
The recent consensus that JP guy did showed the opposite in a way. XIV thrives on new subs like crazy for some reason, besides the fanta and retarded mount sales, new subs are definitely the main income for XIV. They are bleeding long time subscribers tho which also explains why the player base is always constantly fucking shit whenever you DF anything.
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>>338638256
That does explain why I see the new player leaf EVERYWHERE, even beyond where the trial takes you.
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>>338638256

>XIV thrives on new subs like crazy for some reason
Most WoW clones do. Because the focus of the game is on a single player PvE story. Which 90% of people just quit the game after finishing that story and don't stay for raiding. And many of the people who want to do raiding just run back to WoW after finishing the story in the latest WoW clone.

WoW clones just have no retention rate. Because of how the game is designed. Small patches bring a few people back. But when only 10% of people renew their subs each update, then you have a massive problem.
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>>338637919
The old players will come back around 3.5, when 4.0 hype starts building.

It's an unavoidable cycle, I think. Granted, Yoshi's done a shit job of player retention.
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>>338638725
Hopefully now that XV will stop taking all the money that XIV makes, they'll actually try to focus on retention by 4.0.
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>>338638256
I find it hard to believe that more people are joining than people are leaving.
Guess I wasn't looking in the right places.
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>>338637919
I really wanted to try DQX, sounded so interesting.
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>>338638725

>The old players will come back around 3.5, when 4.0 hype starts building.
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>338636738
>Read the story of that guy who worked on the Lego MMO.
Link it - nothing is showing up on google.
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>>338639172
I mean, if they don't, I won't be extremely surprised. Whether or not the next expac does well will probably decide the fate of the game.
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>>338638671
I can't think of any other P2P MMO that manages it to the extent XIV does besides WoW. Most people who just want a quick MMO fix or return for the newest patch aren't always willing to pay for it when there's so many F2P options.

>>338638874
It's not a massive rate, I would say it's after the HW launch hype died down it's been +-0. The JP consensus had about 600k active unique characters, this has some filters applied to it like last time their lodestone profile was updated (HP value I think), minimum level of 20 on at least one class etc. It also can't detect how many are alt characters.

Main point is that majority of those 600k are newer players/characters and the active characters value was larger than the previous consensus by quite a margin. As popular alts can be I don't think XIV has a majority of people playing them due to the way the class system works. I know several people who have multiple alts but I doubt they are a norm.
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>>338637162
most of the time i just see trashy ass white people in walmart
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>>338639520

>I can't think of any other P2P MMO that manages it to the extent XIV does besides WoW.
Well yes, FFXIV is doing the best outside of WoW. But WoW, even after its huge meltdown, still has 10 million subs. While FFXIV is sitting at around an estimated 400,000 subs. So is it really doing that well? Doing enough to survive maybe.
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>>338636993
if i remember right from my time in ZR most people try to keep drama out of the game and if anyone does shitpost they just do it in the general,but i left the server a while back so things might have changed
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>>338638487
they actually changed it so that you have the leaf until you beat all the 2.x story quests or reach a much higher playtime than before
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>>338639797
>white people are trashy
neo-/v/

I thought this place was safe from liberal cucks.
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>>338635835
Except if WoW removed its cash shop today it would still survive on subs alone for a while, while XIV would die instantly.
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>>338639963
>But WoW, even after its huge meltdown, still has 10 million subs.

Not even, Wow had their lowest subs ever last year and stopped releasing their sub count afterwards. I really doubt they have more than 1 million subs at this point. They definitely have less than 1 million in NA and EU.
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>>338622268
I had fun till about lv 30 when half the quests were "Run back to previous area and talk to this guy". the kill quests involved way too low numbers, and the drop rates were 100%. Seriously felt like if a casual mmo became even more casual.
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>>338639963
A game doesn't need millions of subs to be profitable. XIV is definitely profitable, I would guess by quite a margin since SE aren't exactly panicking to try and get people to come back/stay. The only "panic" they may have had was the extremely negative backlash they got from Gordias Savage but even then it's not like Midas Savage came out any faster and honestly, it' just replaced one extreme with another. I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been any huge outcry over it yet other than the small complaint on how A6S was harder than A7S which got A6S nerfed (heavily). And people are still getting stuck in there.
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>>338635987
>all that projection
lmao
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>>338640159
That's strange, because a friend of mine just started recently but he still has the leaf despite being in the 3.0 story now.
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>>338638874
The base game is given away practically for free every week, base game regularly goes on sale for $5 or less and there were plenty of Humble Bundle keys and Squeenix surprise box keys to give away for months.

When the initial admittance price is that low of course plenty of new players will check it out, but 99% of those players don't actually sub after their included 30 days run out.
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>>338640203
man i live in tennessee it's not rare that i see some crazy ass white person with only 2 teeth in their head strung out on meth,they're shit people everywhere you go
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>>338640557
almost positive it's supposed to go away after steps of faith but i could be wrong
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>>338640217
All the stuff in the ff14 cash shop is shit anyway. Paying more than the sub for a fucking mount? No thanks.

Then again, I do so people with Lightning clothes running around everywhere, and I gag a bit every time.
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>>338640557
you must have 165h of playtime and finished the arr story
until not both of those requirements are fulfilled you can be a sprout
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>>338622708
this basically, the crafting system satisfies my autism and I'm just starting to gear my 3rd alt for 8/8 specialist crafts
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>>338640682
>do so
*do see
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why is the official forums so fucking awful? it's a category nightmare which makes it hard to give the devs proper feedback and ontop of that the only threads that are up are hugbox drone threads asking for the dumbest shit like more glamour or mounts.
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>>338640689
Okay, I thought it was either or. Good to know, he was getting kind of mad that it kept coming back every time he logged back in.
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>>338634606
Lancer is actually one button, since impulse drive twice in a row is slightly stronger than the combo
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>>338640217
whats blizzard going to do if they have a shit ton of people stop playing the game like during WoD then?
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>>338639520
Almost all raiders have at least one alt, and so does the majority of Balmung, the rest are spread all over other servers for different purposes like additional storage using FC chests to transfer shit back and forth. Wouldn't be surprised if least a good 10-20% of those 600k active characters are alts.
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>>338640682
>Then again, I do so people with Lightning clothes running around everywhere, and I gag a bit every time.
The Lightning stuff was obtainable through the LR crossover event prior to being put on the cash shop, so a lot of those people probably got them for free. It's not a bad looking outfit, though.
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>>338640842
>ontop of that the only threads that are up are hugbox drone threads asking for the dumbest shit like more glamour or mounts.
Because any other type of threads get deleted and the posters banned. I'm not even joking.

Your best bet for feedback is using the ingame feedback tool but honestly unless you can type JP and post in the JP section, odds are you wont be giving any feedback read by anyone that cares/can do anything.

I would say /r/ffxiv is better but it has the same retarded hugbox mentality as the OF more often than not. But at least the worst you can get there for providing feedback etc. is defense drones downvoting your post rather than getting permabanned. SE does have community staff that read the subreddit at times too, just one guy tho I think.

And yes I know >reddit, but seriously, it's the second best option around, best being random threads on /v/. /xivg/ is the worst.
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>>338640860
b-but leg sweep...
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>>338640896
Give away the game with their movie ticket.

Cash shops are the sign of a failing game and a backup plan to make up for lost subs and this also applies to WoW, WoW just happens to have far more subs than XIV will ever have, so it would still survive on subs alone even if no one buys cash shop shit for 3-6 months. XIV would die instantly because even though they're below 400k subs, faggots are always buying retarded fantasias, mounts and glamours, not to mention physical merchandise for shit in game rewards.
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>>338640428

>A game doesn't need millions of subs to be profitable.
True. But FFXIV had to be made twice. And might not be living up to the expectations of SquareEnix.

>>338640305

Their lowest official numbers was 7-8 million. Even if the number kept going down, I doubt its reached less than a million. Though they obviously are getting desperate, rushing out yet another expansion.

>mfw their game is falling apart right before the movie comes out
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>>338640093
>>338636993
I'm still in ZR and while not perfect, it tends to be pretty calm and not autistic. It's a little quiet right now though, but will likely pick up again when 3.3 hits.
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>>338640842
why are all official forums for mmo's so god damn awful? every one i've been to is fucking awful,so far i think wildstars was the worst before it went f2p
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>>338641514
Have you seen the server list for NA lately? Literally all "low" with about 1-2 servers in "medium" population.
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>>338626892
(Galka) (meat) (log) in (Mithra) (fun) (hole)

I miss FFXI.
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>>338640842
sounds like every mmo ever
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>>338641526
i would come back to ZR but i like where i am now,that and a few of the people i regularly played with quit playing a while ago
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>>338641684

And? FFXIV keeps saying servers are full. But that's because they have much lower caps on their servers.
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Is it me or does it seem like there's an abundance of two types of battle content in this game? You have Casual content (24 man raids, dungeons, and story mode trials) and then there's Hardcore content (Savage SCOB, Savage Gordias, Savage Midas).

The Casual content is catered to people who don't have time for statics and just want to enjoy the content without being too difficult and still get rewarded. The Hardcore content is aimed for people who want a great challenge and willing to put a large amount of time and effort into the game to surpass that challenge, they are willing to form static groups, minmax their gear, and study how to optimize their jobs to the fullest for that Hardcore content.

But what about the people in-between, the midcore audience? People who want something harder than "expert" dungeons and 24 man raids, but also don't want to commit to a static schedule and minmax their job playstyle and gear to clear that content at release?

Extreme trials seems to fit the midcore audience. It's not hard enough to require a decent static & it can be easily done in party finder, but it's also not easy enough where people can slack off during the fight and still win. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much midcore content to tackle on as a midcore player.

For example, you have Bismarck and Ravana Extreme which provided a decent challenge when they came out. But now that echo is added and more people these days are using vastly superior and newer tomestone gear, it's not so much of a challenge anymore. Now you have Thordan and Sephirot Extreme, they are considered to be more difficult than Bismarck and Ravana Extreme. However with time those trials will soon follow the same path as Bismarck and Ravana Extreme.

As better tome gear and echo gets added, the challenge becomes less apparent and eventually there's no incentive to clear that piece content other than experiencing it for the first time or farming it for mounts/glamour.

Themepark MMOs suck
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>>338641684
At least they show a population meter, unlike a certain shit clone that keeps searches limited to 200 to hide how little players they have, even though their older and less populated MMO still shows every single player in that server.
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>>338641798
It's good that you like where you are. It seems like people often post in these threads complaining about their server/fc.
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>>338641514

Their lowest official numbers was 5,5 million and after that Blizzard said they would stop posting their numbers.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/world-of-warcraft-loses-another-15-million-subscri/1100-6429463/

At the rate they were losing subs they should have less than 1M players by now. This was almost 1 year ago. They were losing almost 2M per 3 months.
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>>338641994
im on balmung currently and while i dont care for all the rp or erp stuff i do like how lively the server is and i've made some nice friends,so far the only thing i dont like is the spot that i used to sit at and wait for dungeons in the quicksand always has some dumbass sitting in it

in the 4-5 months i've been there i've only been asked about erp once
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>>338641514
>True. But FFXIV had to be made twice. And might not be living up to the expectations of SquareEnix.

ARR more or less made them the money back, and if they didn't, HW definitely did. The hype and activity around the game when it launched was insane. XIV is definitely meeting expectations for SE, most likely exceeding them as I think it even overtook DQX in revenue last year. It's not doing all that great in Korea and China tho but that's not surprising really.

>>338641869
"Midcore" content died with HW because SE only listened to two extremes; the crybabies that couldn't clear coil and the backseat raiders that complained coil was too easy because world first progression groups cleared it "too fast".

Pretty much all raiders I know that would be now classified as midcore never complained about Coil difficulty other than maybe T9 divebombs and how it's 3 completely different fights in one.

SE has an awful time listening to the right people while also being stubborn as hell on refusing to admit they fucked up.
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>3.3 still not here
>it's pretty much fucking done
>won't release until june 7
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>>338641869
That's just how MMOs are now. And why i hate vertical progression in this genre in general, with horizontal you can fill all 3 audiences by making events for each playstyle, and keep adding onto things indefinately really. Wheras vertical has to keep going up, constantly because people keep beating whatever the new stuff is and asking for more.

Best route is to do both, have some vertical but mostly horizantal progression as players level up, so that the entire process isnt just a race to max level to jump into raids and shit, and just build from there, most importantly make content lasting. You can have 20 different events but if only 2 drop valuable/current tier stuff thats 18 wasted areas/systems
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>>338642493
You'll pay another $13 to even get to download the patch and you'll like it.
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Heavensward fucking broke me. I went balls in with XIV thinking it would be my new MMO and it turned into another shitshow because Yoshi is a hack.

Now I'm waiting on Legion, my standards at an all-time low, it can't be worse than WoD can it?
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>>338642493
They can take their time.

Our FC is still trying to get enough dosh for a small house once the update hits and we get new plots.
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>>338642746
it will probably be better just because blizzard can't afford another fuck huge sub loss like they had during the middle of WoD although how much better is up in the air
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>>338642746
>I'm waiting on Legion
you are literally the biggest cuck ever, go kill yourself.
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>>338643230
XIV or WoW, we're all cucks no matter what here.
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>>338643307
WoWcucks take it to a whole other level to keep falling for Blizzard's shit for more than a decade.
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>>338643307
But the shit MMO and company I'm financially and emotionally invested in is better than your MMO,
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>>338643209
People playing the beta says the endgame content is better, but the class balance is all fucked as usual.
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>>338643539
As opposed to falling for SE's shit since FFX?
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>tfw will be able to be a cute catboy healer in pso2 soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk8ORW52gDs&feature=youtu.be
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Main Scenario Quests are nice.
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>>338643608
endgame in legion alpha and beta is a joke

enjoy waiting 12 months per patches to fight 3 good bosses and 6 shitty ones.
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>>338643898
There's things to do outside of raiding this time at least.
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>>338628328
The one thing I hope to see if they drop PS3 limitations is zones not being all instanced but thats asking for a lot I guess.

So many things had to be cut or sacrifices had to be made becauses of PS3 RAM limitations. Hopefully some shit gets changed 8GBs is a lot more to work with than 256.
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>>338643976
you mean afk in your class hall
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>>338643785
>pso2
>healer

people actually play as a healer in this? all you need is items to keep you alive.
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>>338643720

FF fans have battered wife syndrome. They actually want Square to keep beating them. If Square stopped doing it, they'd actually become worried.
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>>338644427
I was talking about just the WHM costumes but I've seen people spam heals during some parts of bosses like Apos Doritos's DPS check thing
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yee
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>>338645820
Blindfolds are cool, what set is this?
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>>338646463
head: Midas Aiming
i205 pvp body/feet
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>>338646685
>head: Midas Aiming
>blindfold

fuck I'm tired of shitty circlets or whatever the fuck this is supposed to be for mages
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>>338622268
still not bored yet
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>>338647184
what's the command for this?
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>>338647347
/playtime
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>>338647447
thanks
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>>338622268
it became the japanese WoW, weebs keep it alive

source: myself
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>>338648065
Hilda just seems like such an unnecessary character.
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>>338639172
Why is that rogue eating level 50 tank food? She won't even get the full benefit of the wrong stats at her level.
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>>338645820
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>>338647007

I might have to temporarily get back into the game to collect this set.
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>>338649904
On the topic of in game food, I want the chance to eat some of the caster food. It all sounds so delicious.
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5-9 I stay on my server
0-4 I move to gilgamesh
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>>338650048
Beat all of savage for the dyeable version, do it faggot.
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>>338650217
come to exodus
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>>338645820
>cat girl 2B
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>>338650385
Savage require friends.
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>>338623367
>Showing it off on a lala

way to go full overdrive with your memes, SE
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>>338650602
Not after next patch :^)
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>>338623367
Looks awful.
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>>338651249

I still can't beat Thordan Savage with pugs, I don't expect beating Midas or Gordias savage in my fucking life until I decide to join a static.
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Can't wait for the MMO crash, followed by its reinvention. Hopefully FFXVII will be a worthy successor to XI.

>implying we are going to get FFXVI within the next 6 years

XIV is here to stay, it's low-risk, low-income which means a steady cashflow that hardly takes up any resource.
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I still hope they release the uniforms for Class Zero as glamour items someday.
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>>338651525
There shouldn't be any other MMO until FFXXI.
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>>338651476
I mean raid finder is great in concept but I have a feeling in practice there's going to be a ton of people trying to get carryed and just lying about their experience.
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>>338651563
I want FFT costumes, but XIV is way too shit for it.
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>>338651726
FFT outfits would be great i want the squire set
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>tfw you know FFXI mobile reboot will be a shitty cashgrab pay to win mess

I just want XI to be alive again.
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>>338650385

No problem.
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>>338652069
Yoshida himself approved the port and handpicked Nexon, we have nothing to worry about.
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>>338650075

Sometimes I think about starting a YouTube channel where I create the food from FFXIV in real life. But then I remember that I have crushing confidence issues.

The low level food items are easy to recreate.
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>>338652434
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
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>>338652489
Why would anyone ever bad mouth the lord and savior of the MMO genre?
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>>338652069
>ywn play FFXI for the first time again
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>>338651563
Astrologian + Ace outfit would be fun.
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>yoshi says they don't account for healers doing dps and try to limit it giving them terrible accuracy
>there's an entire questline and the tutorial healers quests are about weaving dps between heals
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>>338652450
Thanks for the idea
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>>338652434
The dirty kimchi are going to destroy it.
I'd rather play a private server.
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So.. are you still going to play this game once Overwatch come out?
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>>338652837
In raid. They pulled that shit in the latest expert dungeons then recanted a few patches later.
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>>338653152
Who the fuck cares about overwatch?
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>>338651653
Anon, you know that they're gonna milk XV just like they did with XIII. I mean it, XVI won't be here until 2023+ and we'll just have to deal with it. XIV will be dead by then and will require a successor.
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>>338652617
you mean the soulless husk wearing the old ones skin? Cant wait to pay 30 cents to do a weapon skill.
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>>338652434
>Nexon
FFXI Pay to Win edition.
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>>338653152
I don't care about Overshill, blizzard.
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>>338653191
The accuracy change in the newest two dungeons was so fucking stupid. They changed the accuracy cap for Ambador Hard and Antitower and didn't re-balance ANY of the other dungeons.
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>>338653257
>you mean the soulless husk wearing the old ones skin?

Yoshida is a master of those, we have nothing to worry about.
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>>338652873
Godspeed anon. Make my dreams your reality.
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>>338653152
Never really was a fan of blizzard.
D2 and WC3 was probably the last 2 Blizzard games i played that i had fun with.
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>>338622708

Are there sub numbers? People seemed to fucking L O V E it at release but Heavensward dropped and nobody talks about it anymore.
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>>338653191
Most healers nowadays accuracy cap themselves through materia anyways.
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>>338653690
Any MMO that doesn't give official sub numbers means that MMO is performing like shit, the last official numbers they gave out were 600k subs in 2014, they've been completely silent since then.
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Le region locked costumes meme game.
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>>338653152
I'll be playing both. Probably just logging on for my ixal dailies and capping lore for a bit. My static is on hiatus I'll get back to playing it a lot after raid finder is out. Hopefully I can make some progress past A6S with it but my hopes are low for PUG shitters.
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>>338653769
>tfw Lv 54 WHM
>haven't messed with materia at all
Am I fucking up here?
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>>338653152
You're asking weebfaggots who love hating on Blizzard, just to be contrarians shitting on the "opposite" company.

Overwatch will definitely shit even harder on log in numbers, but it'll do that for every game including WoW. It will at least tie everyone over until 3.3 for people who aren't retarded corporate drones and play both, it remains to be seen how much of an impact it will still have once the patch launches, but 3.3 looks like a complete flop anyway.
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>>338653152
I'm not even sure what Overwatch is.

I've just been assuming Blizzard TF2, and hell, I've never played TF2, much less been into FPS outside of Metroid Prime.
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>>338654269
Don't worry about it until you are getting your iLevel 230/240 gear.
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>>338654269
Materia is straightfoward. The melding menu will tell you if you're doing it wrong. That said, you won't be melding anything until you're level 60 with i220 gear or doing melds for crafting/gathering.
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>>338654730
>>338654651
Alright, I won't worry about it yet then.
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>>338654269
Start buying IV materia oy vey
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>>338654269
Hows whm?
I'm leveling it up because people say their aoe damage and heals are massive
getting through 5-15 on thm and cnj was so fucking painful
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>>338654269
Yeah what the other anons said. Start working on the old world beast tribes you will need it for your anima and they give you mountains of free grade 4 materia.

I don't know much about healer gearing but I believe your going to be mostly stacking accuracy.
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>>338654927
Not him but WHM is good Holy is great AoE damage.

As long as your not playing AST, standard raid comp is 1 WHM, 1 SCH. AST is just underwhelming compared to the other 2 healers.
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>>338654927
CNJ/WHM will be painful till you get to 45. Once you're 40 you'll get Regen, an instant cast heal over time that will give you plenty of time to forget about the tank. You get Holy at 45 which is when you can start to really put the hurt on things.

You'll get more offensive options once you start getting your expansion skills after 50.
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>>338653995
they're bringing the costumes to everyone in 4.0
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>>338652434
Holy fuck look at all those "currency" types up at the top of the UI. They're going to fucking nickel and dime the shit out of this "reboot."
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>>338655615
>citation needed
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>>338654927
I can't compare it to other classes, since for the most part I've strictly stuck to WHM, but yeah, from my impression, the heals are better than the other healing classes, and Holy's fun to throw around when you can get it in.

Really, a lot of the class at my level is just Divine Seal + Casting Regen on the tank, occasionally Asylum in places, and then spend the rest of the time throwing Aeros and Stones around until I need to cast my regen spells again.

Only caveat I've had with it is that I have to manage MP carefully and not go too overboard.
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>>338655483
Nice.
Should I just constantly do dungeons with conj/whm until I hit the cap? They're pretty much instant.
Any way to boost the exp gain other than food and the ring?
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>>338655710
Yoshi P talked about it in the live stream
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>>338653152
People are gonna play Overwatch for two weeks and then forget about it when 3.3 comes out
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>>338645820
>look up the blindfold
>it's ARC, BRD, and MCH only
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>>338651249
>He thinks Midas Savage will change any in 3.3

At best they might nerf A7S and A6S some more for retarded reasons. Loot restrictions wont go away nor will echo be added. Not until 3.4. Midas Normal will probably lose loot restrictions though since the gear will become utterly obsolete in 3.3 with VA2 dropping 230 gear and everyone should be fully geared with lore on like two jobs by now even if they don't do midas savage.
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>>338655615
Not resubbing until 4.0 then.
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>>338655719
>Really, a lot of the class at my level is just Divine Seal + Casting Regen on the tank, occasionally Asylum in places, and then spend the rest of the time throwing Aeros and Stones around until I need to cast my regen spells again.
basically WHM gameplay until any serious endgame. I sometimes do ex roulettes as SCH, which is mix of 210-220 gear and I rarely ever going out of Cleric Stance
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>>338622268
FUCK OFF SHILLS

GO BACK TO YOUR OCONTAINMENT

SAME SHIT SINCE 2.4

ANYONE WHO KEEPS PLAYING IS A FUCKING DRONE

YOSHI LIED

LITERALLY ALL "MODERN" WOW GARBAGE THAT MADE WOW GARBAGE

STILL RESTRICTED BY PLAYSHITATION3

GAME IS POPULATED BY LITERAL WEABOOS WHO ARE REALLY BAD AT VIDEOGAMES
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>>338656128
>Raiden's visor
>monk and drg
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>>338653995
>could've been playing Bot&Soul with decent thick thigh waifus instead of this shit or any other shit mmo that's still better than xiv
>got obsessed with my malnourished catgirl
>can't bring myself to leave her behind for something less trash
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>>338636928
Not really, I literally answer phones and tell people I cant help them for 45k a year.
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>>338656128
NIN gets it too
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>>338655768
FCs have a buff that increases EXP gain by 10%. Not playing the game for a while will give you rested exp, which will boost your EXP by 50% until you use it up. Be careful with rested exp too, it will be used up by any class you level, so if you need to level something for cross-class skills, make sure you use your rested exp on your main.

Dungeons are the best way to level. However, the 47-50 level range can be painful since the dungeon for those levels is possibly the worst dungeon in the game. North Thanland fate parties are a good alternative.
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>>338656151

How long does it usually take them to remove the weekly lockout? By which I mean when will Midas be turned into an 8-man-locked DF instance?
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>>338656395
Midas Normal lockout will be removed this patch, Savage and new Mhach raid will be removed in 3.4.
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Bodysliders coming in 4.0

Preorder the new expansion , get a free Fantasia.
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>>338656395
At patch 3.4 when the new raid wing is available.
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>>338656395
>How long does it usually take them to remove the weekly lockout?

2 patches, Midas will have its loot restriction removed and get added to the normal DF in 3.4 when 4 new alexander bosses are added.
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>>338656323
NIN 205 armor is ugly.
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>>338656542
>>338656575
>>338656591

Isn't 3.4 when it becomes a full-blown DF-able duty?

I meant something like when the raids first get added to the DF but still require 8 people in your party, I recall that happening earlier.
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>>338656567
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>>338623367
Where is this from? I haven't seen it in any of the previews. I can't wait to use it
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>>338656713
3.41 is when it becomes available on DF, 3.4 is when the lockout gets removed but you still need a preformed party.
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>>338656702
Thordan drops armor?
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>>338656815
sometimes the original file is too large, senpai
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>>338650385
The problem is, the only thing I'd want to do with a dye-able version of the healing set is to color the off-white to pure white.

but I'm assuming dyeing this set would color the black parts too huh
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>>338657015
>1,125px × 1,600px
>Too large
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>>338657012
He's talking about pvp sets.
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got away with what exactly?

>400k subs
>dead servers all across the board
>kept afloat by newbies buying the game, patches, erpers and weebs
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