What is objectively the worst Final Fantasy game?
>>338513382
XIII-2 no doubt about it
>>338513451
>>338513489
Yeah it was an embarrassment
I'm heavily biased against X, because it started the downward trend. So I'm gonna say X.
2
>>338513382
>4
>7
>8
Choose one, they're all three the worst in the series by far. People who think XIII is bad should play these games first and stop sharing with us their homosexuality to Cloud and Leon.
>>338513382
FF2. Anything else is objectively wrong and just subjective. FF2 is objectively the worst FF.
>>338513652
I'm playing it right now. It's pretty comfy for the most part. Played it when I was young and never finished it.
>>338513489
XIII-2 was great. If it was even remotely optimized, that is.
FFII, on the other hand, was garbage.
>>338513929
Good for you, I still hate it with an unreasonable passion.
>>338513858
You'll have to specify - EU2 or NA2?
>>338513382
8, how are people dont know this already?
>>338514175
Final Fantasy 2. Not 4.
>>338513661
>>338513858
Just started playing this yesterday. Have only ever played 1. I'm playing through the entire series right now. Playing them both on PSX emulators.
I like the music. Character portraits are ugly.
>>338513652
X is the only good one so its hard to say it started a downward trend
>>338513382
This is objectively the worst final fantasy game in existence.
I'm not really a big fan of X but I can see that it has some good aspects
So probably VIII or XIII
>>338514497
I'll literally never get tired of this picture.
>>338513382
2 is the only correct answer, every other answer is incorrect.
>>338513382
You're missing the true 'worst Final Fantasy' on that list though.
>>338514837
>>338514721
>>338513761
>FF8 is bad meme
>>338514982
(you)
Chocobo Tales.
I feel like I'm the only idiot who ever played it and I regret it so much. The only cool thing was one of the villains' backstory, and the Card Game within it had potential somehow compared to the rest of the shitty minigames.
Want to know what the best part is? When you played cards against NPCs they always, and I mean ALWAYS, used them in the same order, no matter what. I was both amazed and disgusted when I realized it.
>>338514982
Just don't reply to them. They got their opinions from a fucking spoony video. Just laught at them.
Never played any final fantasy game . Any particular one I should start with?
Anyone who says 7 or 10 is honestly trolling.
The 7-hate is just ridiculous. Yes, it gets a ridiculous amount of praise, but a good chunk of it is deserved. It's top 3 for sure.
My opinion is 13 for the worst, but 2 is pretty damn bad as well. I say 13 because it had so dramatically drifted from what FF had been. It's unlike NES FFs and it's unlike Ps2 FFs. It's a bad Final Fantasy game, and a bad game altogether.
For fuck's sake, they're all at least playable. In terms of sheer game design and story development, I and II are objectively the worst. Everything else is opinion. Fuck off.
>>338514902
This.
Holy shit what a letdown.
>>338515196
>say 13 because it had so dramatically drifted from what FF had been
you mean like fucking X you mongoloid?
>>338515196
13 was great, bruh.
>>338513619
>>338513489
XIII 2 was the best in the XIII series, so it can't be the worst.
>>338515196
>I say 13 because it had so dramatically drifted from what FF had been.
Which is why I will continue to say that XV is complete and utter garbage. Dead on arrival - hell, dead before arrival.
>>338513761
>leon
plz be bait and not a kh shitter
>>338515310
Literally the only thing it "drifted from" is the overworld map. It's different, but as much as you seem to be making it out to be.
>>338513382
8, unquestionably.
>>338515174
IV PSP is a good starting point but dont expect much, its an 7/10 in FF terms altough a pretty nice RPG, I'd give it a 8/10 maybe.
IX is the best if you dont mind the gameplay beign somewhat weak and having a lot to read.
VI is amazing too so yeah.
One of these.
>>338513382
Either Tactics or XII
I'm not even trolling. These aren't Final Fantasy games. These are new IP's that Square should have started but instead they just slap Final Fantasy on any game they put out. IE: FFXV
>>338515310
Or 12
>>338515347
Why are you so resistant to something new? Classic Final Fantasy has been dead for a long time, that's not XV's fault you don't need to be so resentful that it's living on in some way if the games are still good.
>>338515196
>People who dislike 10 are trolling
As a big X fan I can tell you the hate is real. I don't agree with the vocal crowd of people who dislike it and often they sound irrational, but it's often very genuine. It's simply a very polarizing game, which is fine.
>>338513489
Worst opinion this entire thread. Eat shit, XIII-2 was great.
>>338515453
>IX is the best if you ignore the gameplay
You can't make this shit up
>>338514837
2 doesn't deserved to be lumped in with 13, and 13 doesn't deserve to be lumped in with 8. 8 is a scarey on the franchise, like All the Bravest and Crystal Bearers.
>>338515152
this is a retarded minset, you can say the same thing about any FF after 7 except 9 since he didn't play itspoony is 100% correct on 8
Definitely 13.
You can forgive 1 for being the first and 2 for trying something different. 8 is awfully lopsided but it certainly has plenty of high points. Same with 10. 11 was arguably one of the best MMOs of its time; even if it was a walking simulator for more than half the game, I never played a game with a world that felt so real. 14 is also a pretty damn solid MMO, despite being a WoW ripoff in many ways.
13 is inexcusable. I don't know what the fuck they were attempting or why they thought it was a good idea. That shit was fucking awful through and through.
>>338515152
Nah, I got mine from playing the piece of shit. Who the fuck is Spoony?
>>338515548
VIII fan here, I can relate to this. People either love the game or hate it. Sometimes people are trolling faggots, but the hate is real. That's alright. Most games after VI seem to be pretty polarizing.
>>338515668
Sorry if your pleb mind was too simple to understand it.
>>338515548
Disliking X is fine, calling it the worst in the series is quite different
>FFVIII, FFXII, FFX, FFIV, FF type 0 is the worst
Meme
>FFXIII is the worst
close but no, you need to have played every game in the series to post you shitty opinion though
>FFVII, FFIX, FFVI, FFV is the worst
noone ever
>FFI, FFIII is the worst
80% of the fanbase never played 1, 3 is mediocre.
>FF2 is the worst
Yes.
Everyone says VIII and II are bad, but that's not true. The only objectively bad FF game is NES III. Nobody can defend that shit
>>338515196
>2
>bad
I wish I was as stupid as you. It would be an experience like no other, I'm sure.
Best
>4, 5, 6, 9, 10,12
Worst
>1,2,3,7,8,13
>>338514837
I can't hate VIII just because of its OST. II and XIII have really good tunes, but they are blunders overall.
>>338515548
I hate how blatantly obvious the plot twist was and then the story got absurdly convoluted. From a gameplay perspective, it was alright but nothing special.
>>338515779
>2 is bad
>hur, but 8 is good!
Dude, you clearly haven't played the games.
Why did they even put the MMO as numbered titles? I will never understand that. Why was it so hard to to start a new spin off series with a different sub title?
They might as well make FF XVI a racing game, and XVII a rhythm game. Why bother with the numbering if you're change the GENRE of the game?
>>338513382
2 or 8
>>338515903
1-7 are all good games. 9-12 are as well.
II.
Or X-2.
Or XIII overall.
There's too many side titles to even sift through. Most are meh or shit.
I
The battle with Garland should have been the final boss. The rest of the game is pure shit.
>>338516124
Go fuck a duck.
>>338515994
Clearly, "dude".
2
>>338516040
Persona 1 and Persona 3 are different sub-genres. Same with Nocturne and the rest of mainline
>>338516157
You mean that the battle with Garland is as far as you got you casual.
how many of you have actually played II start to finish
>>338513761
>Leon
I don't even like 8 and I can't stop laughing at how retarded you are
>>338515152
>>338514982
samefag
>>338516157
>The battle with Garland should have been the final boss. The rest of the game is pure shit.
But, anon, the game ends there:^)
>>338516182
Well, it's nice that you admitted it. Now everyone can disregard your ridiculous post.
>>338513382
12 because Ivalice != Final Fantasy.
>>338515220
1 is the best
>>338516235
I did. I actually liked the stats system. Makes more sense than leveling up and gaining random stats for shit you didn't do.
>magician spends all fights casting magic and shit
>level up
>STR+1
ok?
>>338515174
7 is generally considered one of the best. At the very least, it's certainly the most popular and generally considered required playing for the series, whether you love it or hate it.
9 is awesome too and the graphics are leagues better than 7, in case you have a hard time with 7's lego characters.
If you don't mind 16-bit graphics, 6 is also considered one of the best in the series. 4 is another highly rated one too.
After playing 4, 6, 7, and 9, if you still want more then there's plenty to choose from.
>>338513382
>Final Fantasy Agito XIII
What happened to that?
>>338513382
Mystic quest
>>338516389
1 is a shitty DQ ripoff.
>>338516374
>the usual children who were too dumb to figure out an easy system
Hilariously you don't even need to grind out espers or materia but nope because some dumb fucks sat there drawing 100 of every magic, it's shit
You need to be 18+ to post here
>>338516453
It became Type-0, a PSP game that was ported to PS4 and XBOne in the West.
FFVIII's GAMEplay is weak as fuck. The world lacks some depth and background.
Character design is alright, plot underneath the hood is good. Some of the art, areas, music, and cinematics are among best in series.
So it's a very uneven game with some highly under-appreciated aspects. I personally love it, but understand why people rank it way below VII and IX.
>>338516040
Because ffxi was pretty much the endgame of where classic ff games were going
>good story
>best job system by far
>cool world
Plus you get to play it with your friends.
It felt like a ff game.
Ffxiv might have to but they gave it to a Chinese sweatshop, released it a year early, then changed it into a wow clone
>>338515310
10 hardly drifted all that much from the series foundation. If anything, 12 was a much, much larger departure. I felt like 12 handled it extremely well though (except for the second half) whereas 13 was just a mess.
>>338516136
>X-2
The story is cancer but its one of best takes on the ATB system and jon classes
>>338516348
Nothing ridiculous in my post.
But you seem to have ridiculously shit taste in video games, and autism.
>>338516453
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Agito
Japan only mobile episodic game that ties in with Type-0.
>>338516430
6 isn't considered one of the best, it's only just saved from being below average by all the shitty FF games
>>338516625
Laguna and Squall are the two best protagonists in the entire series. I want some fucking spinoff games, goddammit.
>>338516296
Garland is the best
A badass that just did his shit without gay ass monologues
>>338516235
II is the worst one I've actually played, but I dropped the series after X, which at least had some fun elements and good music.
>>338516658
None of that excuses changing the fucking genre right in the middle of it.
That's like reading Harry Potter, and the 6th book is suddenly a sci-fi thriller murder mystery.
They should have just called it "Final Fantasy Online" and done.
>>338513382
XII was pretty bad, it was worse than XIII
but the worst? probably some spin-off title like this
>>338514902
>>338516473
Dq is shit
1 is the definitive jrpg
FF enthusiast here. It's definitely 13, but 2J isn't anything special.
>>338516235
I have a few times. It's a good game, I imagine /v/ only hates it because they are all casuals. The stat exercising system was cool.
>>338516724
You implied 2 was a bad game. That is ridiculous, as is your taste in games, and your laughable inability to support your opinions.
>>338516889
>XII was pretty bad
Objectively wrong
>>338516794
VI is the best, and there really isn't much competition. V is the closest you can get to it.
>All The Bravest has already been posted
>people still arguing
What the fuck?
>>338516887
FF has always been about changing stuff up. It's still a jrpg, it's just online. It's not even that different from XII
>>338517094
6 doesnt get good until the world of ruin
World of light is a linear slog
Okay so I'm new to FF franchise but I'm pretty familiar with jrpgs I just happened to recently decide to get into this franchise due to XV.
So far I've played VII (because of its reputation as a cornerstone game in the genre) and am playing through VIII, I've been thinking of heading to XII next because I like its atmosphere and world,but I always see people saying it's bad. I checked out some gameplay and a walkthrough, and it didn't seem bad, but what were the main complaints? Was it the change to full 3d camera control?
I'm going to play it regardless but I just wanted to know what I'm about to get into.
>>338517102
Hi, friend, welcome to /v/. Have a seat. You're here forever.
>>338517214
Funny. Most would argue WOR is where 6 gets worse.
>>338516592
>>338515779
VIII is Sticker Star levels of shit. Incidentally, both treat certain attacks as items instead of skills, both leave you with no reason to fight normal enemies, and both have shitty stories.
2 objectively, but 13 subjectively.
>Combat dumbed the fuck down
>Game holds your hand and treats you like an idiot for 20 hours
>The worst cast hands down. Sazh is the only consistently likable character and the sequels just cut him out
>The most bullshit anime happy ending in the franchise
>No fun little minigame to fuck around with
>Literally just a tube except for the gran pulse. FF X was linear too, but I can remember every single area and there are reasons to revisit each one. Here, I hope you like the Gran Pulse.
Things I liked:
>The battle theme
>Lightning's legs
>Sazh
I actually thought the game got too much hate at first, but when I played it a second time in prep for XIII-2, all of its faults just smacked me in the face.
>>338513382
2, closely followed by 3, only preceded by 1. all the other ones fucking blow too
>>338517261
XII is hard, in a good way. /v/ is casual as fuck. The biggest problem most people have with the game is that it's the one FF where you actually need money, and it's the one FF where money is hard as fuck to get. I personally love the game.
>>338517214
>linear
So like every FF ever made.
>>338513382
2, followed by 8.
If you say otherwise you're underage and need to leave 4chan immediately with all the other little reddit parrots.
>>338517214
WoR is where the game goes to shit. It completely loses all sense of focus.
>>338516691
Shitty sidequests: the game
>>338514837
>13 is bad meymey
hush the adults are talking.
>>338513382
XIII
>>338517432
>I'm retarded
Anon, it only takes two words. You wasted a lot of effort there.
>>338513382
FF II. One of the shittiest games I've ever played.
>>338517261
XII is fantastic, it's just a bit slow. You should play the IZJS version if you can (you'll have to emulate with an English language patch) since it has a fast forward feature built in. The game benefits a lot from it, which should tell you just how slow it can be.
>>338517452
Combat was the best, actually, because there was no "ultimate" strategy to win, and the success of battle depends on player input.
>>338513382
They're all bad games. VII has good character design and an interesting motif though.
>>338517261
FFXII is fucking amazing.
12 year olds hate the story because it not "15 year old hero saves the world" its a bit more political.
Combat system gets hate too because its not like the others, gambit system where you program your party members some dont like.
Run it on PC in PCSX2 and holy shit its so good.
I want an official PC port :(
>>338517557
>8
But the reddit is you
>>338517557
Nah, only underage kids hate 2.
>>338516235
i kinda liked it but the Overworld was SHIT, it's small as fuck compared to FF1 and you find every city in the first half of the game, also it was unbalanced as fuck
>spend every battle in the game casting fire to make it level up
>by the final fight it barely reaches level 7
>equip a weapon to a character who has no mastery in it
>he has level 10 mastery in it in barely 15-25 fights
so i agree it's the worst
>>338517751
I hated the story because it was so hamfisted. Political has nothing to do with it. It was just horribly one-sided in a way that made it boring.
>>338517557
>liking VIII makes you underage
Please stop, my sides can't take anymore.
>>338517657
Yes, you clearly are retarded.
I really enjoyed VIII. My favorites are IX, VII, VIII and X in that order. Never understood the hate for VIII> sure the story is all over the place but its really just a standard anime plot. fighting is up to scratch at the time and the soundtrack has never been matched.
I hate XIII but can see others liked it so I dont think its a bad game. The originals I never played.
>>338517718
>the success of battle depends on player input.
Considering the amount of aoe attacks in the game when there is zero way to manually move any character, you couldn't be further from the truth
>>338513761
>IV
>bad
Anyone who thinks this is either too young or has no taste
>>338517970
Ah. I see you are very new and don't understand the quote function. I know, you probably know them as "meme arrows". It's okay, we were all new at one point. The etiquette here is to lurk for a year before posting. I'd advise doing that before you get your feelings hurt by one of those nasty trolls. Good luck, newfriend.
>>338514902
This was 'final fantasy for stupid american gaijin'
>>338516235
I have. It's a terrible game and is easily one of the worst FFs regardless of which version you're playing - not only do its mechanics work against the way the game is designed by pulling retarded shit like tying fleeing to evasion, both the spell and stat-up systems are FF8-tier broken and abuseable to the point where you can break the game without intending to.
>>338513382
>tfw played 1,2,4 re-releases so I will never know whether they were truly as awful or not that some claim
>>338514902
Worst final fantady. Most comfy thou
>>338517976
>Cerberus the whole time
>never switch paradigm
>dies
Therefore, player input matters. Also, you can manipulate their movements, and the fact that you didn't know that means you sucked at it
>>338513382
2
There is a reason they gave the android version free for a while
>>338517751
>12 year olds hate the story because it not "15 year old hero saves the world" its a bit more political
Except it's really not. It tried to be in the first 10 hours, then shits the bed hard because Square Enix is run by the dumbest motherfuckers in history.
Shit needed a Ridley Scott-tier director's cut bad. It's still the best mainline FF, but that's not saying much seeing as it's just a Tech Demo series.
>>338517543
>>338517690
>>338517751
Thanks for the feedback,I'm hoping I'll have a great experience with it too.
>>338517974
>fighting is up to scratch at the time
It's really not. It requires you to know the game inside and out to get the game scaled to you appropriately, and if you know the game inside and out it's never going to be a challenge without putting stupid bullshit restrictions on yourself. That's not the mark of a good game.
>>338518180
No, you just couldn't have been quoting me, since everything I said was true. Been here for over 8 years. I assumed you were as idiotic as you are acting, and assumed that "meme arrows", as you called them, were your autistic inner thoughts. You can not prove anything I aid about VIII wrong.
>>338518317
not that same guy, but I don't think saying "you can't just jam on auto forever" is a compliment. Of course you have to know how to change jobs and shit.
>>338518317
"Do long combo and hope when lightning jumps backwards at the end she doesn't land in death" isn't good movement and does not reward player input
I do agree paradigms were pretty good
>>338518276
The original ff has aged horribly,I guess if you wanted late up a nostalgia you could try it out,but it's hard since most of us have been spoiled by post 90s game quality.
Here is the definitive, final list on Final Fantasy games, from best to worst, but games within their own subset of the ranking can be rearranged. Not counting the MMOs.
>BEST IN THE SERIES TIER
FFIV
FFVI
FFVII
>ABOVE AVERAGE TIER
FFIX
FFVIII
FFX
>AVERAGE TIER
FFXII
FFXIII
FFV
FFI
>BELOW AVERAGE TIER
FFII
>>338518675
>The original ff has aged horribly
Only if you're a massive faggot who never appreciated RPG gameplay.
>>338518479
Holy fuck you're dumb. It takes a special kind of retard to be incapable of recognizing simple irony. That alone invalidates any opinion you could ever have. Please do the responsible thing and kill yourself.
>>338518675
Not him, but I have been playing games since the atari 2600. I can still go back and play NES RPGs I never played before. Being spoiled is your own problem.
>>338518424
This is false.
>>338518750
>ff 1 5 and 12 in same tier as 13
>>338518750
>FFVI
>best in the series
>let's take everything we learned about RPG design from FFIV and V, throw it all away to tell me a story that I don't fucking care about, and then sabotage the gameplay!
No, it's one of the worst FFs.
FF9. A fucking mess and a huge step backwards in terms of scope and quality.
By far the best
>>338518332
Because it was the anniversary of one of their apps?
They did the same thing with FFI when that app came out
>>338518926
FF13 is an average game. It isn't below average, it isn't above average. It's a perfectly average game.
>>338518914
>junction curaga to HP
>stay in critical HP
>spam triangle
>win game
No, it's not false you fucking retarded fanboy, try playing your game before you talk about it.
>>338517653
>Adults
>on /v/
Good joke. But seriously 13 was trash.
>>338518750
Swap VIII and I I, and you've got a deal.
>>338518778
There is no irony in you being fucking retarded, anon. It's just you being retarded.
>>338517304
>>338517586
>>338517597
WoR is ff6 learning from the superior SaGa series, a much better jrpg series. Non linearity, customization of the party members, and a wealth of optional content, extra bosses, the most areas to explore.
If all of ff6 was like the WoR, it would be the best
>>338518985
fuck you
>>338518951
>PROS OF GAME I LIKE: INTERESTING
>CONS OF GAME I DONT LIKE: UNINTERESTING
Of the mainline, FFXIII and FFII
FFXIII took me 6 years to beat because despite being short, it's boring as fuck, has a terrible story, absolutely fucking lifeless characters, and is really just Final fucking Hallway. I just finished it last year.
FFII is god fucking awful for how the leveling works since it basically encourages you to abuse the leveling to speed the boring shit up. Battles are wonky and tedious. It's just a hot mess all over.
VIII is not as bad as people act, the quality just drops really fucking heavily after a certain point but it picks up again towards the end. It's not a good FF, but it's not as bad as II or XIII
>>338516658
The only people who hate XI are children who never got to play it in 2002 land experience the best MMO ever made.
>>338518985
fuck off
>>338513652
The worst thing about X is the characters and they aren't all bad. Tidus was a mistake, however.
>>338519104
WoR isn't FF6 learning from SaGa, it's FF6 poorly imitating FF5's final world, which actually did learn things from SaGa.
>>338518985
Immunity cat fucker
>>338518750
>BEST IN SERIES
>VII
Since you love graphics, hate gameplay, and enjoy unoriginal narratives, why don't you just slap XIII in there you industry-corrupting, nostalgia-ridden heterosexual?
It's All the Bravest. Everyone can go home now.
>>338519224
Anon the graphics are shit, the gameplay is pretty fun and the narrative was absolutely new when it was made.
At least try to make good points.
>>338515718
This
>>338518951
That image is great anon, thanks for that.
>>338519387
>the gameplay is pretty fun
Only if you mod the game.
>>338519061
Yeah, but you're acting like this was necessary or even the best strategy to go about it.
>>338519387
At the time the graphics were absolutely not shit.
>>338514818
XIII paradigm system alone puts it ahead of at least one other FF game. I'll let you decide which.
>>338513382
9 without a doubt
it has to be 2, objectively speaking its just awful all around, its maybe notable only for its story.
it gets points for basically spawning the saga series, but it was an awful awful prototype non the less
>>338519224
7 has terrible graphics and 5 is the only mainline game with good turn based combat
>>338519490
yes they were (unless you're talking about the cutscenes)
>>338518675
I played FF1 Gba version, 2 psp, 4 psp version as well.
1 was nice. By today's standards it was generic adventure to save the world, but there was charm in how simple it was. I also imagine the tweest was pretty good when game came out.
2 was kinda great. The level of autism grinding you can put into characters is good. You can mold your party into anything you want or everything. Storywise it was weaker than first one though and 'flow' of story was worse. After I killed emperor, pace fell apart completely despite there being, what, 3 dungeons before last fight?
4 started out fantastic, but it got weaker the longer it went. Worst points were change into Paladin, because Dark Knight was simply better, especially with that skill that could intagib whole other party, ded party member coming back alive and last minute you're my brother, gutboi and we have to kill this alien. It's not only FF suffering from it, though.
One side of me is tempted to try out original nes (or snes?) versions, but other is scared it will make my opinion of re-releases worse or better for no good reason.
While on topic, are there any other versions of FF3 than original and android (which was ported to psp)? Those 3d models looks kinda bad.
>>338513382
13
A massive dull chore.
>>338519061
i really enjoyed the junction feature
>>338519587
You are clearly a child then. FF VII's graphics were mindblowing at the time. The battles seemed real. The summons were insane.
>>338519581
>its maybe notable only for its story.
That's a really weird way to spell music
>>338519474
And you're acting like being able to break the game effortlessly isn't a bad thing that kills any semblance of engaging gameplay. If FFVIII required you to use the junction system intelligently to progress, you might have an argument, but the game folds as soon as you catch on to one of the many, many ways to break it.
It's not like this is inherent to JRPGs with this style of design, either. SaGa games are easily broken, but ever since RS2 they always include content that will challenge even the most hardcore parties.
>Two years ago
>I only had enough money for one Final Fantasy game, but I wanted to get into the series
>Ask my friend what game is the best in the series
>He says either buy VI or II, but he recommends II more
>He actually fucking meant it
>I bought it
He isn't my friend anymore.
>>338519138
>FFXIII took me 6 years to beat because despite being short,
Nigger, it's really fucking long. It was like 60 fucking hours to beat the goddamn corridors.
X-2 and XIII-3 were thebestgameplaywise
>>338519387
Graphics were literally all VII gained acclaim for.
Why do you think Square Enix does nothing except continue to hire people for VisualWorks?
FF has no gameplay. FF has no writing.
>whoa look at those colored pixels
>whoa look at those polygons
>whoa look at those FMVs
>whoa look at that CGI
>whoa look at those character models
WHERE IS THE GAMEPLAY SQUARE ENIX
>>338520091
I believe you mean Episode Duscae, anon.
FF12 was the worst considering how it was literally 6 years in the making.
>>338520226
Platinum has much better combat than Duscae.
>>338520016
Which version was it? What you didnt like about it?
>>338520463
I bought the PSP version of II, and I didn't like it's combat. It's combat was a clusterfuck.
>played 7 for first time last year
>it was really fucking hard to get used to overworld map and models
>in battle it was so bad
>game is pretty fun
>those tweests
>leveling materias
It was really solid and good, but...with all those summoning animations, fmvs, overpresentations it started trend or more like showed direction that gave us flaws of 10 and 13.
>>338520224
Play X, it's right there
>>338520016
Good, I wouldn't be friends with you either if you had such shit taste.
8 has completely broken gameplay but I found it fun to abuse and did almost all of the optional stuff, in addition it has arguably the best music in the series. 10-2 is pure shit but has the best atb combat in the series. 13 is shit and barely has any redeeming qualities so I'll go with it. I haven't played 13-2 or LR because of 13 either.
>>338520634
>It's combat was a clusterfuck.
What. I don't understand. Was it your first jrpg? You didn't understand menus? I'm honestly confused.
If you said leveling stats, spells or elements, I could understand. But combat system was pretty standard. I dare to say, you would say the same thing about any ff out of 1-6 or even 1-10.
>>338516235
I played the GBA version as a preteen so I didn't notice a lot of its flaws at the time. I still think it's a solid game with an engaging story (much better than the story in I or III).
2 is the worst. Every new idea it introduced was flawed at best, and every mechanic it changed was for the worse.
4 is probably next in terms of quality, but it's not bad. It's just the worst of a good bunch.
>>338516235
beat psp version last year
>>338521156
Honestly, it was probably because of how my friend had me do it. He came over when I started playing it the first time.
He told me that I should get into random battles, have my teammates attack each other, heal them if they're about to die, and rinse and repeat for however long it takes.
It wasn't fun, I told him, and he said I just "didn't get it," and swore me out.
>>338516235
I've tried to beat it 4 times now. Never have.
I plan to this summer
>>338516936
this. WHEN WILL THE JAPS RELEASE THE 3DS VERSION THOUGH
>>338521475
Oh. You could propably quickly look up explanation for what he wanted you to do it better explained but I will try to sum it up.
You rise up main stats (str, agi, int etc) and side stats (hp, mp) by doing certain things like getting hit (hp), casting spells (mp, int) etc. From what I know it's possible to make game keep repeating last chosen actions, so he most likely told you to hit guy (str up) who had equiped 2 shields (agi up? dont remember), some other char casted heal or other spell (usage increases) level and leave it so they level up stats.
That's pretty unneeded for main story. You should've just tried progressing through. Random battles would tend to level you up with time. I remember grinding only at one part and it was still from 'random' battles (not random but 100% chance officer fight) for levels and equipment. Turned out it wasn't needed because the next encounters instead of army of officers were on officer and army of soldiers. welp.
From quick read, anons are mostly complaining about how easy it is to break game by overleveling stats, but I think almost every ff can be broken one way or another. Map was pretty small as well.
GUYS HELP ME!
I wanna get a tattoo of the l'cie brand from FF13, and i wanna get it in the same place as one of the main cast, but i can't decide.
Whose l'cie brand shouls i get?
>>338519138
Came here to post this exactly.
2 is complete fucking trash and a disgrace not only to Final Fantasy but to video games as a whole.
>>338522807
>anons are mostly complaining about how easy it is to break game by overleveling stats,
Or you can use buff or instant death spells to break the game.
Or you can use dual shields or a single shield+a dagger for 99% evasion so you're never touched by anything short of a boss and can flee from any non-boss encounter due to the stupid mechanics.
Or you can use bare hands instead of weapons for over half of the game because they overpower them massively until the second half of the game and it takes fuck all time to catch up with weapon skills.
>>338522964
Noctus's I'cie brand.
>>338523101
>>338522964
Dick on forehead.
FF12 because it has the worst combat system.
The best game is obviouslya tie between FF4 and FF9
>>338523305
Why would anyone do that?
>>338522964
Fang nigga, l'cie brand would look fucking cool on your shoulder
>>338523074
>gambit: attack
>gambit: use potion when less than 30% hp
>gambit: use phoenix down on ded
there, you have beaten almost whole ff12, bonus points for playing IZJS where you become even stronger
oh shit, you can get summon in FFX that can instakill everything? fucking shit game
you can change characters there into gods sttatwise? shit game
stealing in ff9 made game complete shit, allowing you to get way too strong weapons
ff8 junction
>>338515459
Nice try, calling two of the best FF games to date shit is great bait.
The series would be dogshit without either of them.
2 on the NES
>>338516235
I'm at Pandemonium now. I can't wait to be done with this damn game.
Honestly they are all so terrible and braindead it barely fucking matters.
>>338523953
Yes, and?
All of them except Theathrythm. Pretty sad when a rhythm spin off has better gameplay and design than a 100 million dollar game.
STOP ARGUING FAGS. HERE'S THE DEFINITIVE RANKING
>GOD TIER
VI
VII
IX
>GREAT TIER
IV
V
X
>DECENT TIER
I
III
VIII
XII
>SHIT TIER
II
XIII
>>338525170
Switch out IX and IV, and switch XIII into decent and I'm good.
>>338525170
I agree even though my favorites are IV, VI, IX, and X
Final Fantasy 2 is underrated and gets more shit than it deserves
objectively 2
the game borders on being completely unplayable, it is one of the worst JRPGs ever made.
Personally:
>II
>XIII
III is a bit questionable, And X-2 felt like it murdered the tone and feel of X. XIII-2 was a huge improvement gameplay wise, but the story was bullshit (To be fair, this is what XIII should have been in the first place). VIII has some bad mechanics and a questionable third act, but I liked it overall.
>>338513489
The only game I can think of in FF that is almost as bad as XIII-2 aside from XIV pre-ARR is XIII itself. I mean wow, what insults to RPG fans and storytelling in general.
>>338525478
so underrated
so well designed in every aspect
nothing like walking 6 tiles south at the beginning and encountering monsters you can't even hit who one-shot you
nothing like having to hit your own party to level up
nothing like being unable to escape from any encounters ever because the run command is bugged to fuck
nothing like dungeons with zero treasure chests where entering a room puts you in the very middle of the room
nothing like having to use magic thousands of times to make it decent
It's just an all around good game and totally not a complete piece of utter dogshit that Square should be ashamed they ever made.
>>338525170
>High Tier
Theathrythm
>Good tier
VI
VIII
>Decent Tier
V
X
XIV 2.0
>Lackluster Tier
III
IV
VII
XII
>Bad Tier
All the others
The more I browse /v/, the more I realize how much I don't wanna hear any of your shitty opinions.
>>338525170
>IX not in Decent Tier
sorry I don't like garbage battle music and the worst battle system in the series
>>338526194
Running isn't bugged, it's tied to character evasion so you'll never be able to run if you're not running around with dual shields tanking everything to raise it even though this makes absolutely no fucking sense.
FF2 is awful.
>>338526214
You should add FFTactics PSX on High tier and the Advance ones and Dissidias on Good, then
>people still complain about [insert main FF game here] being "too different" from the rest of the series when practically every main FF is massively different from the rest in story and setting
>>338517261
Spolers by the way...
Real talk, and like realest talkest, there are't that many big important and substantial problems with 12 with a few exceptions:
2 of the main characters, Vaan and Penelo, have little stakes or importance in the plot directly. There's literally no reason for Penelo to be in the party and has little character development. Vaan sticks in the party for the fuckin fun of it, and his character development stops like 1/4 into the game, although he is redeem a bit because of how valuable he was to Ashe. Fran is kinda of on the same boat as Vaan but she is still a worthwhile character for the party to have around because of her knowledge of the world (And yes the fuckin costumes are because of PR meddeling forcing them to make them appeal to the widest blah blah blah). Balthier, Ashe and Basch are mighty fuckin fine.
They ran out of money towards the endgame, or maybe they got the release date moved forward, or a mix of both. From begging to... like 7/8 of the game is paced on a 50/50 switch-up between dungeon crawling/exploration and plot stuff. The problem is that after Archaedes there's literally 2 of the longest and hardest dungeon, with around 3-5 minutes of plot development... it's a fuckin shame that FF12 got the shaft on the last stretch.
A maybe problem is the grind. You can go trough FF12 without doing side-stuff and still make it to the end, you would end up with an okay difficulty curve, culminating on a challenging final boss. Now if you DO the side-stuff, the difficulty sky rockets and you have no choice but to grind levels and gear because of of how balls to the wall the side-quest bosses are...
Other than that it is pure fuckin personal taste...
>"Ugh it's just like star wars eeewww"
Maybe because 12s plot is modeled after the hero's journey, and georgy boy plotted out star wars on the hero's journey too?
>"uwwaaah the gambit system is bad"
Turn it off.
>>338526549I don't consider FFTactics to be good and it fits as part of 'all the rest'.
>>338527201
>"eeewww the plot is boring"
The political machinations and minupulations of Vayne, the reckles ambition and obfuscated plans of Cid, Ashe's quest for power to defend her crumbling kingdom encouraged by the gods impersonating the ghost of her husband, skewing her notion of his beloved and losing herself on the quest which plays into the plans of the gods... If you don't like it that's fine, the plot is well presented ad followed trough, if it is too thick for you Uncharted 4 is out... maybe give that a try?
>>338513382
FFX is the worst game
FFX fags are the worst fans, even worse than FFVIII Balamb Garden faggots.
FFX and their babies are objectively the tipping point in the franchise, when it became shit and the games and their fans started being ridiculed by the entire industry.
Before this shit show of a game, Final Fantasy was a respected brand.
>>338527251
wew allright
>>338527330
Here's your (you)
>>338527330
t. SBFP shill
>>338513382
I didn't really care for 2, 10-2, and 12 all that much but still finished them. I couldn't finish any of the 13 games and I never played any crystal chronicles. All the rest I enjoyed
>>338515636
>2 doesn't deserve to be lumped in with 13
Oh yes it does, 2 is conpletely fucking broken
>>338527492
FFX Baby, pls go.
If your first Final Fantasy was 3D, your opinion is not valid.
I like them all
> Fucking Epic Tier
FFV
FF:Tactics/Advanced
FFVI
FFXII
> Good Tier
FFIV
FFXI
FFIX
FFVII
> Meh Tier
FFX
FFX-2
FFXIV:ARR
FFI
> Shit Tier
FFVIII
FFII
> What the fuck were they thinking tier
FFXIV (original release)
FFXIII/XIII-2
Obviously Mystic Quest is a giant steaming pile of shit, so it doesn't need to be on the list.
>>338527905
>Anyone who's played a Final Fantasy game from the last twenty years first is not valid
>>338513489
FUCK
YOU
13-2 is what 13 should've been
>>338527330
Disliking X is an edgy meme, but understandable
Calling X the worst of the series is the absolute proof you're a subhuman.
The only ones disliking X are either neckbeards that didn't tolerate it's popularity or edgy kids whom first FF was 13
(You)
>>338528146
>> Fucking Epic Tier
>FFV
I would like for you to explain what that's about. I've never seen anyone list FFV as anything above "it was fine."
>>338518112
It really pales in comparison to 5 and 6 anon. Play it again.
