Isn't /v/ worried about the current state of operating systems? Recently, Microsoft released Windows 10, which is a horrible OS and includes built-in advertisements and spyware. Not only that, but they are forcing users to "upgrade" to this operating system, which makes it very clear that Microsoft believe this is the most advantageous way to exploit consumers, and everything in the near-future will be a slight variation of W10.
When will Windows go the same way as Internet Explorer (meaning, replaced by something vastly superior, by most people)? It's bound to happen eventually. Most technology enthusiasts dislike W10 and Microsoft can't hold their monopoly forever.
>>338502859
No because PC master race.
>>338502859
>but they are forcing users to "upgrade" to this operating system
i'm still on win 7 you cuck
I won't use it, ever.
If applications stop supporting w7 (which won't happen for quite a while) I'll make the jump to Linux.
I mostly play older games so that wouldn't limit me in playing vidya much.
>>338502859
>Most technology enthusiasts dislike W10 and Microsoft can't hold their monopoly forever.
You don't know what a monopoly is.
>>338502859
Until new games I want to play start being W10 only, I'm keeping my Windows 7. I wouldn't worry until then.
>>338502859
>includes built-in advertisements and spyware
Such as? Examples?
You can deactivate most of the telemetry system in the settings and deactivate even more with command lines.
Protips: Win7 has build-in telemetry too, you just don't realize it.
>>338503640
t. /g/
please don't fell for the windows 10 scam, I'm an idiot and fell for it and now i regret it ever since.
>botnet that phones home that is built into the os and you can't easily deactivate
>horrible windows update
>horrible start menu
>horrible universal apps
>>338503837
Ads?
>>338503786
>10 Rupees have been deposited to your account
You LITERALLY can not deacive all of the telemetry even with 3rd party software.
W7 has NO telemetry if you don't install updates.
>>338502859
No one actually dislikes 10 for what it is. Just the spying stuff (which is no joking matter).
>>338503786
But this basically. If you're using Windows you're fucked either way. Why not get the newest one with the best features if you're already in the bot.
>>338503959
pirate win 7 and downgrade, they dont deserve anything less.
>>338504030
I hate the GUI and can't stand it.
This thread is full of sensationalists. Windows 10 runs fine.
Anyone has the screencap of that Subway pedophile going on about how great W10 just a day before getting busted?
>>338503837
Any way out of this nightmare? Doesn't other Windows do similar things?
>>338502859
Well, hopefully in the not too distant future, *nix's ability to run games will go way up thanks to Vulkan. Then we won't have to deal with MS's shit ever again.
>>338503402
Aren't you worried about security now that they've stopped updating it?
>>338502859
JUST UPGRADE STUPID
>Advertisements
where?
>>338503965
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3037396/windows/windows-10-lock-screen-ads-begin-with-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-push.html
No matter what Os you're using, you're still being spied upon. But you gotta be pretty fucking dumb to install Windows 10, spyware or not. Earlier on, Microsoft used to PAY people to test it prior to the release, but now it can just give it for "free" and once people hear "FREE" they must have it, hence why they fall of the scam and install it on their machine.
If you installed W10 at anytime during your lifetime, they used your dumbness to save money by having you to do the job of beta testing it for free.
>>338504186
Some updates of Win7 and 8.1 did added telemetry, uninstall them and you are golden.
>>338504279
>No matter what Os you're using, you're still being spied upon
laughingstallman.jpg
>>338504272
>Fortunately, the ads are easy enough to disable. Just head to Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen and uncheck the box that reads “Get fun facts, tips, tricks, and more on your lock screen.”
WEW
That was hard
>>338504261
in the start menus. kind of hard to miss.
>>338504218
>Aren't you worried about security now that they've stopped updating it?
Microsoft are still releasing updates for winxp you tard.
>>338502859
>/g/ is representative of most technology enthusiasts
I actually hope that Win10 will be adopted as fast as possible. DX12 has been proven to have massively superior performance to DX11, and Vulkan is still largely unproven and frankly the track record it has with its predecessor doesn't bode well at all.
The sooner Linuxfags go back to their holes the better.
>>338504381
I have none of that
>>338504376
>I-i-i-i-It's okay, you can disable it if you turn this obscure knob! Please install windows 10, my family of 25 needs to eat too!
Holy shit pajeet. Ads in default installation of any OS is unacceptable.
>>338502859
>Windows 95:
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows 98:
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows 2000
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows ME
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows XP
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows Vista
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows 7
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows 8.1
Microsoft forces everyone to use it and stops selling older OS
>Windows 10
How is it different this time?
I used to actually stand up for MS against the haters. They always seemed pretty fringe to me.
But the aggressive and relentless push for Windows 10 has left me cold. Microsoft can now go eat a bag of dicks.
>>338504376
The fact that they included ads in an operating system without our prior consent sets a nasty precedent, dude. I personally wouldn't want any OS that serves any kind of ad. Especially not one I paid for a license to get.
Besides, if that's the kind of shit that we can catch them doing, imagine all the stupid shit that they're getting away with in the background.
>>338503959
>That phones home
Haha, what the fuck?
>>338504649
>Especially not one I paid for a license to get
Windows 10 is free.
>>338502859
>Buy cheap laptop
>use for work and browsing
>use regular cimputer for vidya
Dont believe any of the telemetry blocking nonsense. You cant stop the surveillance at all. Forbes released an article interviewing someone that had worked on windows 10. Down to the kernel they gather data on you. keep in mind, this article was scrubbed afterwards, hard to "sell" a product when something like that is online. Hell, they've been logging everything you did even in windows vista.
Going full Rorshach paranoia while using Windows is just silly.
>>338504376
inb4 w10 gets enough adoption that they take out the option to disable the "fun facts and tips!" feature aka ADS. just admit it. you installed Good Goy: The OS.
>>338504480
me neither. it's called windows 7.
i am at win 8 and cannot care enough to even install classic shell, fight me faggots
>>338504613
Windows 7 and 8 are downgraded to win10 without your consent.
>>338503786
Only if you updated windows 7 in the past couple of years. Even then you can actually completely disable it on win7 through removing updates and turning off certain settings.
>>338504613
Ads and key logging and telemetry, nigger. Read the thread.
>>338504721
Free if you already have a different version of Windows right? I actually didn't pirate my copy of Win8.
>>338504576
>obscure knob
It's called properly setting up your computer.
You can deactivate most of the telemetry stuff by not being a retard and doing quick check in the setting menu, something than every use should do.
>>338504721
how generous of Microsoft. how can they make such an important part of their business free?
>>338504381
Where? My start menu just has steam and adobe on it.
>>338504752
Stop lying anon, there is no ads in the start menu.
>>338504842
>Even then you can actually completely disable it on win7 through removing updates and turning off certain settings.
Spoonfeed me, please.
>>338503837
Fixed by the good guys at mydigitallife.
http://dws.wzor.net/
As soon as somebody releases an OS that is 100% compatible with Windows binaries and is governed by an open license.
>>338504218
>Aren't you worried about security now that they've stopped updating it?
MS updates protect you from nothing, but maybe MAYBE the most obvious viruses like freescreensavers.exe or some shit. Never updated in years and still virus free. All you really need is ublock, noscript, and common sense to not run suspicious programs.
>>338504894
>>338504970
so it's happened. people these days don't even recognize when they're being advertised to anymore.
>>338502859
>Not only that, but they are forcing users to "upgrade" to this operating system
It's pretty easy to get rid of those nags if you know what update to uninstall.
>>338505019
Wow this looks not at all sketchy.
>>338503640
The login to has advertising built into it, it can be disabled but it's there and that is the first step to forced advertising. It's widely known that w10 collects tons of user data including screen shots and audio.
I made the switch to Ubuntu after I got fed up with the windows 10 pop ups. It was strange and confusing at first, but now I've been using the OS exclusively for 6 months. I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not using windows, but I've never had the desire to play anything but indie games, dwarf fortress, and dota 2.
>>338502859
>not using Never10
>>338502859
>Isn't /v/ worried about the current state of operating systems?
Game's performance has just getting better with each OS release since Vista
>Microsoft released Windows 10, which is a horrible OS and includes built-in advertisements
Advertisements has been on Windows since Windows 98 (MSN internet access) or the demos that game with the WIndows 98 CD.
Windows 10 ads can be disabled.
>and spyware
there is no spyware on Windows 10
>Not only that, but they are forcing users to "upgrade" to this operating system
I am using Windows 7, I got a pop up about installing Windows 10, I ignored it and since then I haven't had any other invitation. Nobody is forcing me.
>When will Windows go the same way as Internet Explorer (meaning, replaced by something vastly superior, by most people)?
Probably never. Linux is a mess a decade ago and still a mess today. OSX isn't getting much attention from developers too. There simply isn't enough market.
>Most technology enthusiasts dislike W10 and Microsoft can't hold their monopoly forever.
The only ones who dislike it are tinfoil hat paranoids and people who are too stupid to even use a computer properly.
>>338505125
There's nothing to recognize anon, I don't have any ads on my OS.
Hell, I DO have targeted ads on Firefox (I look for something on amazon, for the next 10 days every ads are about this) but nothing here.
Maybe you are misinformed.
>>338505102
Really? I thought an unprotected and unpatched version of Windows XP was vulnerable to infection by all kinds of shit within minutes of being connected to the internet? Or was that just before SP2?
>>338505265
>2016 is the yet of linux gaming they said
Still waiting for those games assholes.
/v/ wouldn't recognize a good operating system if it bit them in the ass.
>>338505437
b-but SteamOS will save us, 2K ported a lot of stuff surely it's coming
Okay straight up how many people here tried to get their friends to use a messaging app with a shared password?
>>338503965
Bane?
>>338505232
>The login to has advertising built into it
What? Where?
>>338504847
>Having to dig through settings to ensure you don't have to deal with intrusive ads is now considered normal by millennials.
I hate the way the tech world is going.
>mfw my garbage NVIDIA card with no driver support makes my windows 7 computer incompatible with the windows 10 forced update and I'm never asked about it again
>>338502859
>Win 10 is bad
I'm so fucking old I actually went back to 3.11 because 95 was such a buggy mess and was forced to move on because no software eventually worked on it. You haven't even seen a bad OS if you are complaining about 10.
>>338505668
Which card?
All you have to do is get rid of update KB3035583 and the nags stop.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583
>>338505437
Its not about linux changing everything, its about no longer having to bend over for microsoft. There have been no useful innovations for the OS for what over a decade? They're giving away the OS for analytics and to put a windows store on your desktop.
>>338505102
>All you really need is ublock, noscript, and common sense to not run suspicious programs.
At one point you could get infected via Firefox merely by viewing an image file. There was a rather nasty security vulnerability in the code that loaded the image.
You're a fucking idiot if you think you don't need to plug security holes in software because "common sense" will protect you.
But you can take solace in this, almost all Windows security vulnerabilities are not discovered, they are revealed when Microsoft releases a patch and people look to see what they changed. When Microsoft stops releasing patches the "discovery" of security vulnerabilities in obsolete versions of Windows drops to near zero.
>>338502859
This belongs in /g/ sperglord.
Install linux and stop being a winfag.
>>338504613
Because this time it goes further than declining user comfort.
>>338502859
Win10 + spybot anti beacon = good 2 go
>>338505431
I'm not sure you can into computers.
Your internet browser protects you from the interwebs.
>vulnerable to infections
Is windows antivirus the soft that prevents "infections"? Nope. Private antiviruses
i have a pirated copy of windows 7 and i don't really want to upgrade to W10 because of what MS would do after making w10 not free (i think is in july)
>>338505821
GeForce GT 330M
>>338505363
>there is no spyware on Windows 10
That all depends on your definition of spyware Bromigo. Windows 10 admits to logging your keystrokes and reading your email among other things. See >>338503837
>>338504416
Anon I've got bad news for you
>>338504416
no.
>>338504372
he's right tho. Maybe not with Gluglug/libreboot laptops (modified thinkpad T60s, at best .001% of the population has one of those), but any recent computer with an intel/amd processor has proprietary firmware (the Intel Management Engine or whatever amd's counterpart is called) in it. This piece of software can get control of the entire machine at any time without any part of the OS knowing or noticing. Doubting that Intel/AMD have made deals with NSA and other agencies is, at best, childishly naive.
>>338505102
>>338505582
The lock screen. Dis you not hear anything about the rise of the tomb raider debacle?
Mac user here with Windows 10 on bootcamp.
Windows 10 is a lot faster and it's not retarded with high PPI (Back in Windows 7, Windows would shat itself if I had a rMBP with a 1440p screen but Windows 10 can handle two screens with a noticeable difference of PPI)
Do you niggers just hate change?
>>338502859
No, because I already use Linux.
I want to use any OS that I want. You don't like that, too bad. I'm the customer, I'm the king here.
Deal with it Microsoft. Either I get to keep W7, or I just switch to someone who will.
>>338506000
>actually believing /g/
Those email reading terms are from Microsoft's email service. They basically tell you that your emails are saved on their server unencrypted: something that literally every free email provider does.
You're an idiot.
>>338502859
>Another thread of "Botnets are ruining my life"
Nobody here complain when use the steam/3DM/Origin/ "botnet"
>>338503837
seriously...
>>338506000
>That all depends on your definition of spyware Bromigo.
Exactly
>Windows 10 admits to logging your keystrokes and reading your email among other things.
It only happens if you are using a Insider Preview. Which is entirely optional.
>>338504743
find me a pastebin or archive of this article and ill believe you.
I'm really curious as to who is behind these bots against Windows 10.
It's a fucking OS. which is the boringest shit you can be against.
Who out these really gives a flying fuck about an OS ???
>>338506110
Literally fucking where? I have no ads anywhere on my system, and I haven't installed any programs that remove Win10 spying things.
>>338506213
>he doesn't know the actual meaning behind that quote
>It's a Windows 10 is Satan episode
>>338506213
>>338503837
Real time protection is literally the most common feature of any decent antivirus, anon.
It's fucking normal since Windows XP.
Seriously, this is getting /g/ levels of retardness
>>338506259
Imagine your entire life is just being beaten by people who are bigger and smarter than you. Now imagine you find out you can feel larger by installing gentoo.
That is the kind of person who gives a fuck about an OS
>>338506205
The fact that you call Steam/3DM/Origin bad only proves our point more. We should be able to play games without any of those being required.
Why didn't MS just make another windows 7?
>>338506259
I think for too long we've taken for granted that our desktops were free of being advertisement, spyware machines for our corporate overlords. Windows 8 was the start of this for windows and it is only going to get worse.
I installed Windows 10 on all my works computer earlier this year.
That's 200 instals.
How does that feel op ?
I hope it feels bad for you.
>>338505857
>Op says the browser will protect you and windows updates dont really do shit
>NO IT DOES TO FAGGOT MY BROWSER SUCKED AT ONE POINT SO UR GAY LOLOL
What you said just goes to support what he already said you retard. Windows update doesn't update your fucking browser unless ur an idiot and use ie or edge.
Do you niggers know anything about Spybot Anti-Beacon?
>>338505936
>Your internet browser protects you from the interwebs.
Is this bait, or are we just having a hard time understanding each other? You realize that your computer is open to attack just by being connected to the internet right? Not only when you browse unsafe sites?
http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2008/07/average-time-to-infection-4-minutes/
>Is windows antivirus the soft that prevents "infections"? Nope. Private antiviruses
I wasn't talking about the antivirus. I was talking about MS Updates that patch exploits that can be used to fuck the system.
>>338505363
>I got a pop up about installing Windows 10, I ignored it and since then I haven't had any other invitation. Nobody is forcing me.
Since about January or so, there's rarely a day goes by where I don't get a pop-up about upgrading. Friday was the first time the pop-up didn't have an "No thanks, I'm not upgrading" option.
"No thanks, and don't bother me again" has never been an option.
I really don't appreciate the hardsell tactics.
>>338506429
You can thank pirates for that
>>338504613
>Windows 10; How is it different this time?
Microsoft force buy Office (and a wider range of microsoft products) in the win10 store when this ruin the profits of all those uploaders with adfly links for cracked releases of office
You just know when the deadline for the free """"""""upgrade"""""""" is reached Microsoft will come out with GREAT NEWS about how they're extending the opportunity to upgrade by another year.
>>338506287
You're obviously just trolling at this point.
>>338506238
you'll have to go digging on 8ch's /tech/ board
>>338506160
>>338505853
>>338505536
I'm thinking of pirating windows 7 and dual booting with linux, can microsoft still force piratefags to upgrade to windows 10?
Windows 10 is literally le devil
Me gusta le Chromebook
If you install W10 YOU WILL FOREVER ALONE
Don't be a scumbag Steven . install chrome OS.
>>338505001
I have no idea if it i has been posted yet but here is the Win7 Fix (parts work for 8 as well)
Uninstall and Hide following updates:
KB3068708
KB3022345
KB2952664
KB2990214
KB3035583
KB971033
KB3021917
KB3044374
Search CEIP in your startmenu and turn it off if you haven't already.
cmd:
sc stop Diagtrack
sc delete Diagtrack
Task Scheduler Library:
Everything under "Application Experience"
Everything under "Autochk"
Everything under "Customer Experience Improvement Program"
Under "Disk Diagnostic" only the "Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector"
Under "Maintenance" "WinSAT"
"Media Center" and click the "status" column, then select all non-disabled entries and disable them.
services.msc:
"Remote Registry" to "Disabled" instead of "Manual".
Paste these into the "hosts" file in C:/Windows/System32/Drivers/etc/
(open with notepad)
http://pastebin.com/bp7wruLc
>access denied to hosts file editing
take ownership of the file:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
3068708 telemetry
3022345 telemtery
2952664 telemetry
2990214 win 10 update compatibility check (windows 7 only)
3035583 get win 10 update app
971033 current OS activation checking
3021917 telemetry
3044374 win 10 update compatibility check (windows 8 only)
so difficult
>>338506659
You /g/ losers need to go back to your own containment board.
>>338505363
>Game's performance has just getting better with each OS release since Vista
and it literally has nothing to do with the OS.
>>338506643
>8ch
there it is
DONT INSTALL WINDOWS
INSTALL OUR OWN SHITTY LINUX BISTRO !
SO WE CAN SPY ON YOU NOT MICROSOFT.
>>338506502
This. There's a Win10 Icon in my taskbar right now, and about once a week it'll pop up and ask me when I want to upgrade. You'd think they'd have learned after like a year of denials that I don't fucking want it.
>Upgrade Now or Upgrade Tonight
Go fuck yourselves.
>>338506775
'kay
>>338502859
You dont like Killer Instint and Tomb Raider in w10?
>>338502859
>they are forcing users to "upgrade" to this operating system
Not really, but they're heavily promoting the idea that you upgrade.
>Get Win 10
>Download Spybot Anti-beacon
Here
Even less telemetry than Win7
TIL Microsoft le devil.
They are American, Americans are Satan. Font forget.
>>338506376
So why do I have to use Defender instead of another antivirus, and why don't I have the option to turn it off?
>>338506502
>Friday was the first time the pop-up didn't have an "No thanks, I'm not upgrading" option.
There is a reason windows have a close button.
>"No thanks, and don't bother me again" has never been an option.
As I said, the only people who doesn't like Windows 10 are the ones who are too stupid to even use a PC properly. Pic related.
>>338506752
It does. Your system consumes resources too, you know? Windows 10 has better performance than 7, it manages services like dwm and Superfetch better, for example.
>>338506453
If you're system admin, I'm sure it'll feel pretty good for you.
At least if what they had before was 8.
...which I don't think you'd ever have on a workstation.
>>338505431
Theres a special version of XP that is still being updated with security updates for a branch of the military (I think the navy) because they cannot move onto a new OS.
I also doubt the story about the whole story about the XP being vulnerable when it connectst to the internet for several reasons.
1. I have yet to see actual examples of this.
2. Your modem will most likely block any remote attempts onto your machine
>>338505431
>Really? I thought an unprotected and unpatched version of Windows XP was vulnerable to infection by all kinds of shit within minutes of being connected to the internet?
I connected an old computer with Windows 98 to the internet recently. No problems whatsoever.
Maybe the malware out these days just isn't compatible. If so, that's a hilarious security via obsolescence.
>>338506954
Americans did trump.
>>338502859
Holy shit, you're retarded.
>>338506995
>Pic related
>only people who can't operate PCs dislike win10
The false flagging and blatant misinformation is strong in this ultra shitpost.
>>338506995
>>338506502
missed my pic
>>338506985
The moment you install another antivirus with real time protection, Defender desactivates. Try it.
>>338506701
The hosts file is ignored when sending telemetry and uninstalled services are reenabled/reinstalled at next update.
>>338507057
Trump
Windows 10
911
This is why you should boycott USA
>>338504416
Are you retarded, boy?
>>338506376
I have a bad news for you.
antiviruses don't protect from virus they can only quarantine them and if important shit is quarantined it can crash the whole system.
Some viruses can still spread while on quarantine.
The only thing that protect from virus is common sense and noscript. I don't think i'll be jobless anytime soon. Thank god for viruses and computer illiterate.
>>338506943
Seriously? Can you elaborate?
>>338507150
And install Chinese Linux so the gooks can spy on you.
>>338507170
Well
I can show you what it looks like.
It's easy really.
>>338506453
Congratulations, you'll get an official "Micro$oft Wh0re" certificate in the mail signed by Bill Gates.
All modern OSes are shit.
All modern browsers are shit.
There are no good alternatives, because making a good alternative is inherently unprofitable.
>>338506470
You completely missed the point, didn't you?
There is no "common sense" where a black box is concerned, only faith, and securities holes should be patched as "common sense" will rarely protect you where they are concerned.
>>338506205
>Its another pajeet from Microsoft marketing in India trying shill win 10
When your only argument to make Win10 look good is to paint everything else as spyware and convince people to give up what little privacy they have left really just shows how shit win10 is.
>>338507123
I understand why you might be mad about that screenshot, but the settings he's circled are literally for the system tray and notification area, not for upgrade popups. Being mad about something not doing another things is fucking retarded.
That said, I don't support the upgrade popups, but they're going away july 27th, so no worries.
>>338507030
>Your modem will most likely block any remote attempts onto your machine
I think this was back in the day before modems came with built in firewalls. I remember back when I was a kid, my family computer got infected a couple of times out of fucking nowhere.
>>338507297
Wow it's really that simple huh?
>>338507339
Thanks
I was waiting for some butthurt.
MS is at 500 mil installs btw
>>338504743
You can fuck of pajeet and learn how to use a toilet.
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/08/windows-10-phones-home-even-after-privacy-hardening/
>Microsoft charges money for their OS
>GRRRRRRRR I HATE M$ THEY'RE FUCKING GREEDY CORPORATE JEWS
>Microsoft gives their OS for free
>TELEMETRY! BOTNET! SPYING! FASCISM
I'm fucking speechless, there's no satisfying this forum
Besides, the deadline for getting W10 for free is in JULY 29, so hurry the fuck up unless you want to be stuck with outdated software
>>338504613
>>338506995
Any gnu/linux distro manage resources better than window 10. The day I'm forced to update to botnets, keyloggers and telemetry is the day I'm not gona dual boot anymore.
>>338507360
>Your modem will most likely block any remote attempts onto your machine
Making a good browser would probably be profitable.
>>338507161
>antiviruses don't protect from virus they can only quarantine them and if important shit is quarantined it can crash the whole system.
do you really know how an antivirus works? hell... do you know how a malware spreads?
Antiviruses protect users by identifying malicious executable software that gets into the computer. There is a good chance antivirus can detect this BEFORE the malware executes (which 90% of the time requires at least the help of the user).
Quarantine items are blocked for executing.
>The only thing that protect from virus is common sense and noscript
It's not the only thing but it's useful. Other things are:
-Using a user without admin permissions
-Using a sandboxed browser
-Using an antivirus
-Updating your OS
>>338507416
It actually removes upgrade popups.
>>338506741
>No argument
Guess I win again. Have a (You) for that burn.
>>338507546
>forum
kys
>>338507297
Looks like fucking malware from 1999.
>implying w10 doesn't do a full scan of your computer while it installs before you can turn anything off
Have these threads ever convinced anyone to buy a Chromebook instead of a real computer with Windows ?
Serious
Does this ever work ?
To me, it does the opposite. You all look like douchebags and it makes me want to actually install windows 10.
>>338502859
People hate W10 because microsoft. You can upgrade macbooks to The Capitan, Capitan have built-in advertisements (mac app store) and telemetry, but nobody care.
And can upgrade Linux systems to recent editions with built-in advertisements (Linux app store) and telemetry, but nobody care again.
>Muh muh telemetry
>There are 5 + open source programs that remove all the unwanted Win 10 stuff
KeK
Don't fucking upgrade or even do a fresh install.
These are all the problems I encountered with a fresh install:
>Startup time more than 1 minute, and yes, I tried the fixes for slow startups, it don't fucking work.
>It takes up to 10 seconds to open ANYTHING, whether you right click or just try to open up a fucking folder. Even the fucking start bar is fucked.
>Logging in takes a while because windows can't decide whether it wants to freeze or not fucking freeze
>HDD usage constantly at 50 - 99% which completely disables you from doing anything in the meantime
>Registries get fucked up almost daily. Any update or new installation of ANYTHING will fuck up the registries 78% of the time
>Icons disappearing, settings disappearing
And before someone states that I have a toaster, I built this PC no more than 2 years ago.
Never had these issues with Win7. Win8 is where the performance, due to shit services, started suffering.
These days I just end up using my Linux partition more often (I'm a programmer). I normally used it for work only, now I use it for everything that's not gaymin.
>>338507297
>>338506701
These don't block everything. You have to block connections externally (router, or if you're running in a VM).
>>338505431
can you even computer?
>>338507704
Who the fuck was talking about Chromebooks?
>>338507546
>I'm fucking speechless, there's no satisfying this forum
Are you new? /v/ has always been notoriously pissy and hard to please. Also, paying for older versions of Windows really wasn't that big a deal to anyone besides the FOSS addicts over at /g/. Especially since it was so easy to pirate. Turns out /g/ was right though.
>>338504816
Lol I felt like I was reading Homestuck for a second looking at that image.
>>338502859
Your ISP is still spying on you, your phone is spying on you, Windows isn't going anywheres. You tinfoil fucks are just as bad as your anti-piracy lobbying adversaries.
If you want privacy, get off the internet.
I installed Windows 10. Eat shit.
>>338506701
Your putting faith in something that doesn't even work.
see
>>338507543
>>338507654
No it's legit.
Several different softwares like that exists.
>>338507741
>2 years old
>not a toaster
k
>>338503510
This
If theres something I really want, I can just play it on my laptop, or on any of my consoles.
>>338507123
So what if I don't want or need an antivirus with real time protection? Why do I not have the choice?
>>338507654
It's by the guys behind Spybot Search and Destroy. They cannot into nice looking UI.
>>338507732
And they are all snakeoil
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/08/windows-10-phones-home-even-after-privacy-hardening/
>>338507915
>shitposting
>>338506213
>Equating the monitoring of Internet usage to losing freedom.
Nigger, you have to choice not to use. I mean how fucking stupid can you get?
>>338507831
>You tinfoil fucks are just as bad as your anti-piracy lobbying adversaries.
>If you want privacy, get off the internet.
Yes, that's right. There's no need to fight it. We're only looking after your best interests. To protect you from yourself.
Here's another long comment
String
To bump the thread
Blah blah something something
Comment copy and pasted
From another forum
Windows 10 is the devil's
American stuff is bad
Hamburgers
Fat guts
America
Japanese is better
I wish I was Japanese
Why can't I have
A Japanese gf
They are
So much
Better
Than American
Girls
Because
American
Girls
Won't even
Talk to
Me
Fuck
Microsoft
Fuck usa
>>338505102
>MS updates protects you from nothing
I don't understand how people like you can say such garbage like this
I *REALLY* don't understand. You are obviously a neckbeard that knows nothing about computers, how can you say that as if you were the highest authority in the world? You think they would upload updates regularly if they were useless?
>>338502859
>build in adverts
You can turn it off
>Horrible OS
It just werks, it's the most stable. It boots faster with an SSD than 7 did. It actually looks nice.
>Forcing users to upgrade
Oh the horror, people will have legit working copies of windows and not some hacked garbage shit found on kick-ass or piratebay etc
I've given into the botnet really, I just don't give a shit anymore. My convenience is worth more time than trying out linux and having to fuck around with drivers, tearing and the occasional thing I have to do that requires windows.
>>338507876
I'd rather not.
>>338507705
>You can upgrade macbooks to The Capitan, Capitan have built-in advertisements (mac app store) and telemetry, but nobody care.
Literally NOBODY on /v/ is fucking stupid enough to be running OSX.
Nobody.
Windows used to be better than OSX if only because it didn't do all that OSX horse shit; now it does, which is why we hate it.
>>338506490
>2008
Maybe back in the days when modems didn't have firewalls built in by default. I can promise you this shit no longer works.
Got Windows 10 Enterprise from my workplace. Won't have to worry about Microsoft's shitty telemetry at the very least.
>People complaining about privacy while posting on a site that uses Google recaptcha
>People complaining about privacy when they have a smartphone
>People complaining about privacy when they are using google search engine
>People complaining about privacy when they go on youtube
Just installed fedora 23 on my laptop. Fucking beautiful. GIves me flash backs to the old days of windows XP. Fuck winblows 10 and it's spyware bullshit.
>>338505192
>sketchy
Yes, programs that offer you the source code so you can see what they do are sketchy.
>>338508215
Ya you sure showed him proof that MS updates actually do shit and not just attack the guy in some vain attempt to discredit him by bringing up no proof.
>>338508230
The fact that you have acquiesced to the inevitable assfucking doesn't mean you have to defend it.
Yes, I know the botnet is coming and there's eventually not going to be a way out of it, but I'm fully prepared to fight it kicking and screaming to the bitter end.
At least have the sense of self-worth to make it hard on your rapist, goddamn.
>>338508230
>You can turn it off
Where are the adverts anyways? I haven't really seen any.
>Oh the horror, people will have legit working copies of windows and not some hacked garbage shit found on kick-ass or piratebay etc
But I upgraded from a non licensed copy and it works fine for me.
>>338508369
you forgot
>google analytics javascript
>>338508230
Why are you afraid of the boo in the loo?
>>338508472
Why would I prove the updates do shit to him? That's like saying "Why are you not proving to a fool who denies gravity that gravity exists? Why do you call him a fool instead of doing that?". It's the most obvious thing in the world, I do not need to prove anything
>>338502859
Why is Win 10 so bad?
>>338508230
>t boots faster with an SSD than 7 did
Hate this meme. It's not, not only that the difference is fucking negligible. you wont notice a 1-2 seconds between the two.
>>338508369
>There's already a dick in your mouth, why do you care if two more get shoved up your ass?
Enjoy the three games that require DX12, I'm not upgrading
>>338503510
Same here, already made the jump to linux. Currently praying hard to vulcan and gaben. Really hope that VR games will be produced on vulcan, cos that is a train i want to get on to.
>>338508230
>animefag is a little bitch who bends over to corporate cock
>certainly ERPs and bends over on camera for getting steam gifts of shitty weeb singleplayer games that can be easily pirated
I'm not surprised at all
>>338508337
The fact that it ever worked proves that my previous statement was correct.
>>338508369
see
>>338507409
You can also get addons for your browser to block analytics and shit. And google isn't the only search engine you retard.
>>338508230
>having to fuck around with drivers, tearing
Both non issues.
>>338508230
>You can turn it off, that makes it okay!
i fucking hate this meme
>>338507750
This anon gets it.
A firewall can't hold everything on a machine, so you'll have to resort to hardware firewalls + routers, which then might have the juniper exploit from a few months ago.
Anyway:
- The first line of defense is to never ever fucking install or upgrade to win10, ever fucking ever in forever never ever ever.
- Second line of defense is that if you do, do it in a VM that's blocked off the internet both by hardware, and software. Preferably the VM software should be sandboxed as well with Sandboxie and such, to avoid HDD spying.
- Third line of defense is all the /g/ "tinfoil" shit they post.
- Fourth line of defense is all the "privacy protecting" software that you have install separately, leaving a window open for Microshit telemetry and others to spy on you during the process.
- Fifth line of defense, software firewall for win10
- Sixth line of defense, noScript + Ublocker in all the fucking browsers.
- Seventh line of defense: Never use EDGE, NEVER INSTALL CORTANA, and most certainly never install any updates automatically.
- Eighth line of defense: Block all updates.
- Fifth line of defense: Remind yourself that the tinfoil tricks + win7 is still a better OS and life choice than SpyDows 10.
>>338508621
Read the thread faggot.
>>338508230
>stable
LOL
>>338508609
Ah so you don't have an argument. Guess its proven that windows updates don't protect you from anything.
Have a (You) for your troubles.
>>338506157
>Do you niggers just hate change?
>Mac user
>>338508826
>using edge
>>338505019
>try this
>configure and apply
>restart
>pc is strangely faster
>much faster
Fucking hell...
>>338504613
The difference this time is that they even have not spent any effort trying to hide it, they went full on honest about shilling.
gives me a warm fuzzy (comfy) feeling that most of /v/ will be cucked into buying Windows 10 down the line instead of getting it for free
icrosoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input, location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history, even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHA2s04Vtdc
A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
https://archive.is/QnTTA · https://archive.is/eZKc9
Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
>Over 82 billion photos viewed.
>Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
>44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
>Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
>Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
/g/ memes
>>338508675
Yes and times change. It was true back then, but not now. People use to only live 30 years, but now we can live upwards of 100 years thanks to advances in tech.
>>338508369
>having deep insight into system files, applications and private files saved on your PC as well as having ability to inject literally every update at will is the same as looking through your searchresults which can be easily blocked by disallowing cookies and not having a google account
You indian shills really need to steup up you game.
But doing a shitty job is part of your culture I guess.
>>338508780
>- Second line of defense is that if you do, do it in a VM that's blocked off the internet both by hardware, and software. Preferably the VM software should be sandboxed as well with Sandboxie and such, to avoid HDD spying.
Or you could just physically disconnect your computer from the internet. And have another system that you use to browse the internet.
>>338508087
Tell me, who here is fighting it? No one.
>>338509048
>Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
for what purpose?
>>338508963
>"Win10 is so stable!"
>someone uses Win10 and it breaks
>"B-b-but n-not that p-part of the o-os"
lmao
>>338509070
That's not entirely accurate, people have always had reasonably long lifespans, 50-60+, but the average lifespan was 30 because infant mortality was so bad. Babies are fragile and sickly and die easily.
>>338502859
>Microsoft released Windows 10, which is a horrible OS and includes built-in advertisements and spyware
Defend the "horrible OS" part.
>>338505437
Actually I have a decent library on my linux. Also helps that dota2 and TF2 were my top games to begin with.
>>338507741
I've nothing but performance issues as well. Although, I didn't get any registry issues yet.
I'll be downgrading to 7 or remove windows kebab all together. Thinking of doing Ubuntu + KVM for gaming needs. If I can get KVM to work properly.
Windows, never again.
>>338508826
>>338509348
Where the fuck did it break? That's just his shitty ass GPU not being able to refresh the changes on time. Holy shit, anon, you're retarded.
>>338509254
For the same reason the Kinect camera/microphone never turned off.
Ostensibly, so you can do things like say "Computer turn on" and it will turn on
But then also conveniently because it means the government has an audio record of every conversation you've had within earshot of a turned-on computer should they decide they need it.
>>338502859
>He didn't turn off updates 6 months ago and only get windows defender updates through the defender itself.
>>338509254
Google did the same with Chromium. Why? I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. I can't see why a corporation would want that or find it useful.
>>338509254
If a company has the resources to collect this information, can get away with it, and may benefit from it, what reason exactly does it have to not do it?
That's the question you gotta ask. And the answer is nothing, it had no reason not to. They can afford it, they can get away with it, and somewhere someone will figure out a benefit to doing it.
>>338509216
I agree, but why hinder your fun while LIVING DANGEROUSLY?! Consider that not everyone has enough devices to do so - e.g. poor. What a sin.
>>338505027
Its called React OS, look it up
Its pretty cool but the development has been super slow mostly because butthurt linuxfags don't want to touch it but now that the are bathing in russian money the development has gone much faster
ROS will save us
>>338502859
I remember some interesting positions taken on the whole spyware angle. I can't remember who but someone went out and said that people should leave telemetry on, if only because "if all the smart people turn it off, then MS only get feedback from the dumb users, and of course that'll lead to them making a more and more closed system"
>>338508671
>Complaining about anime on a fucking image board made for chinese cartoons
>>338508679
Too me it is, I've never been able to get rid of it despite googling. Then again I've always amd cards
>>338508710
I never said that it's okay having built in adverts, but you can get rid of the annoyances and the TRY MICROSOFT OFFICE PRODUCTS FOR FREE pop ups and you forget about it.
>>338508826
nigga are you using edge? lol
>>338509548
thats the thing... you cant turn off the updates
>>338509541
This is the very reason you should disconnect peripherals when not using your computer.
Especially the microphones and cameras.
>>338509348
So I guess this applies to win 7/8 because of IE, right ?
>>338509528
No that is windows edge not being programed well.
What next your going to say internet explorer wasn't terrible?
>>338508826
I just did the same thing and it did not do it. Seems like a gpu related problem.
>>338508230
>My convenience is worth more time than trying out linux and having to fuck around with drivers,
My laptop tablet convertible worked out of the box with linux mint. The multi touch and wacom pen inputs.
>>338509608
I do not want my operating system reporting everything I do to an unscrupulous major corporation with info-dumping ties to the government
I don't give a fuck what that does to the potential future versions of Windows
>>338509762
Yet at the same time, I just opened up edge and did basically the same thing as that anon and I didn't have such a horrible lag. I'm pretty sure that has more to do with his CPU and GPU than with the program itself.
Where is the built-in advertisements? I have windows 10 on a computer and I don't see shit.
If you are talking about the start menu you can actually customize that if you try right clicking.
Not defending window 10 by any means but I seriously don't see any ads and if that what you guys were talking about then to be blunt you guys don't know shit.
>>338509737
It applies to every single windows OS actually. Windows is just shit. Move onto linux or react os.
>>338509694
Fucking around with drivers really isn't needed. They're packages in all the big distros, easy to install. If you're talking about the quality of drivers for your amd card though, yeah they're shit.
Tearing shouldn't be a thing on any distro with a properly configured compositor (Ubuntu for example). If you have tearing I only know how to force it for nvidia and intel cards, but it's still a very easy fix by installing a compositor like compton and copying a config file.
>>338504218
>Aren't you worried about security now that they've stopped updating it?
Oh boy
>>338507360
I'm sure gentoo and linux from scratch are VERY profitable
>>338509731
Or you could use an OS that doesn't report everything you do back to the home server.
Also one of my favorite privacy-supporting functions was on a computer I had which had a hardware disconnect switch for the Wi-Fi router. You could physically disconnect the power supply to the WiFi card by flipping that switch whenever you weren't using the internet.
>>338510042
Assuming you didn't already disable most of that shit on install of win10, you should see some adverts when using the start menu's search function.
>>338509941
By "info-dumping ties to the government" do you mean "currently engaged in a very expensive court battle for which the purpose is to protect their customer's data from the government"?
it's 2016 and guy don't know how to cuck Windows users through GPU Passthrough
>>338509716
>he updated to windows 10 on release
KB3035583 is the get windows 10 app that gets installed on win 8.1 and 7. You can uninstall and hide it.
KB3069708 Telemetry for 8.1 and 7
KB3022345 Telemetry for 8.1 and 7
Both can be uninstalled and are also labeled for customer experience improvements
Learn how to do some research before updating to the next OS.
>>338503402
I woke up today and it had installed itself overnight.
Decline
Decline
Wait 15 minutes for that shit to come to normal.
Fuckin A
>wah guberment see what I do
good. Fuck non-conformists.
>>338510042
that's an ugly as fuck start menu
any way to remove the shitty tablet buttons?
>>338510206
I believe i was clear on where i stand about win10 and to never fucking ever ever use it, even in neverland i wouldn't ever use Windows.
^ This post was written with reinforcing in mind written, not logic. Two negatives don't make a positive in this one. This sentence and logic works outside the classical logic system, as advised by the previous few sentences.
>>338510258
Actually that's Apple, weirdly enough
Microsoft were the ones outed as part of PRISM, I may use their software but I will never TRUST them again. Any software functionality with the mere POTENTIAL to be exploited as an info-gathering tool I assume, on-face, IS being used to spy on behalf of the government.
I will retain that belief until my dying day.
thank god i am a pirate and haven't updated ever in my life if it weren't for compatibility i wouldn't even have upgraded to win7
