ITT games that have aged like diet milk
>>338496093
The map is tiny. But I don't have any other complaints.
fuck you vice city was still good in 2005
>>338496093
vice city is as good as always, fuck you OP
>>338499538
>no map
dropped
>absurd amounts of money for missions
dropped
>nothing to actually spend the money on
dropped
>>338499538
GTA 3 - literally 50 shades of gray.
After seeing GTA 5 sunset i can never look back.
>>338498284
Play System Shock enhanced edition on steam it aged a lot better aside from graphics
>>338499768
>>338499768
>>338498284
Not only graphics but its not very playable cause of archaism. Shit controls, slow as fuck, and weapons are total garbage. Its very hard and i cant count how many times i died at start of game. Its not just difficult, its difficult because its old and shit
>>338498284
Kinda this. I really didn't like the slow combat mechanics, and dropped the game after only a few hours. Guess I should pick it up again and finish it if it isn't that long.
>>338498284
>played System Shock 2
>expected Bioshock
Go fuck yourself.
>>338500621
>game is 2 hard bcuz old and shit
Kill yourself. There's no hope for your generation.
>>338501456
I'm sorry I didn't like your game, autist shill.
>>338501456
>implying games can't be archaic with bad controls
I can't tell if you're seriously right now.
>>338496268
If there is a mission you fail, you have to drive all the way back to the starting point of said mission to initiate it. Getting armor and ammo for gun is a bitch also when all the stores are fucking out of the way
>>338496093
the fuck is diet milk
Goldeneye
>>338496093
Still more fun than GTA V and ESPECIALLY Online.
>>338496268
>>338497969
>>338499425
>he hasn't had diet milk
shit's good
>>338496093
It's okay. Post-story gameplay is kind of bland because there's nothing to do, but the actual story gameplay is great.
>>338501908
>>338496093
>calling low-fat or light milk 'diet milk'
Americans, everyone
>>338499698
thats it GTA V is all about graphics?
>>338496093
>diet milk
is this the birth of an ebin new meme?
>>338502260
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my freedom and democracy.
Niggers and Europoors can go fuck themselves.
>>338496093
I would love a remake of vice city
I mean leave the graphics, map, mission difficulty, and pretty much everything else the fuck alone. Just update the controls and I'll be right as rain
>>338502260
>how dare another country call something I know of differently
American here, never heard of diet milk in my life. Skim or low fat milk, I've heard of.
>>338499538
this still has the best atmosphere out of all the gtas
>>338502879
Better draw distance/spawning distance is all I really want. It's weird driving and seeing cars/pedestrians pop up 20 feet in front of you.
Every 3D era GTA has aged like shit, they're impossible to go back to if you've played any of the HD games
>>338498284
Sorry but this is true.
>>338499673
>he didnt learn the map
with your logic you should drop life for not having a map 24/7
>not playing Vice City and Vice City Stories back to back
pleb cucks
>>338503386
IV has aged the worst, it feels even more outdated than the PS2 games. The graphics are dark/grey as fuck, it treats being on the internet as some super new thing (despite the fact it was 2008), and the driving was a failed experiment.
>>338501907
it's like they wanted to eschew convenience for a somewhat immersive experience
>>338503386
No, it's "every GTA game" period.
GTA IV looks like horseshit now too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evM8Dlssf2A
>>338503641
>it treats being on the internet as some super new thing (despite the fact it was 2008)
you fucking retard, it reflects 2000s internet as a whole despite game itself set in 2008
same thing V did with reflecting 2010s instead but itself being set in 2013
and those computers in GTA3 was about 90s internet
retard cuck
>>338499538
>tfw you got tank and mafia faggots with shotguns at first island can suck your cock
>>338496093
>>338499538
>>338499673
I concider the original GTA and GTA 2 to be aged worse then GTA 3
>>338503987
You are so fucking mad it's unbelievable.
>>338503641
I loved the driving, it took some skill instead of the arcadey crap of 3.
>>338504210
>concider
>skim milk
You may as well drink water. Whole or nothing baby
>>338503762
No, it was just an older game. Bully is almost as old and they also follow suit of not allowing you to retry last mission. Of course in Bully if you miss a job, you just have to move on since the in game clock runs like an hour every minute.
>ctrl+f
>no fallout
>>338496093
Protip: Vice City was always flawed. It had a much smaller map than 3, and when San Andreas was released, only racists would claim it was better.
>>338504406
Retry last mission is literally casual phone shit
You drive again to the place and start the mission properly.
>>338504497
Vice City's radio was the best tho
iv is the worst joint tied with lcs
>>338504569
Let me be frank. I don't want to have to drive for 10+ minutes driving from the hospital to find the right vehicle and get back all the weapons and body armor I lost to try again a mission that will take a dozen tries to beat.
The reason I haven't picked the game back up is because of the mission where you must rescue Lance from that junkyard warehouse and escort him out. That mission irritates me to no end because if I don't die Lance does, or my car explodes and I cannot make it out. The enemies are everywhere and taking them out does nothing when waves of more of them come later and you rake more damage before even getting to the damn warehouse.
>>338504454
The art looks fine even by today's standards
It's not trying to cram as many polygons it can in a 3D environment, so it looks fine
![Morrowind_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FZGlTku.jpg "Morrowind_1[1].jpg")
>>338496093
>>338502568
freedom from what? i never understood this.
>>338504454
The only thing I can't stand is the clunky ass inventory system. That and the combat being a bit bare bones compared to other RPGs. I don't think it's aged that badly compared to other games made around that same time.
>>338503859
This is what you consider looking like horseshit? Cause I think IV aged like fine wine. It's first GTA where the characters actually look like people, cars are more than just boxes, there's detail everywhere on the map, tons of traffic and pedestrians, particle effects, shadows, reflections, etc.
>>338496093
Man! I still love the atmosphere and the music/radio in the game, I have so much nostalgia for this shit!.
>There are retards breathing my air who can't enjoy something because they've enjoyed something "more advanced"
I fucking pity you.
>>338504972
>hospital
>not loading game
>>338505927
Right one looks shittier desu fampai.
>>338496093
>itt
I played vice city the first time last october and am replaying it right now after going through 3, sa, iv, episodes. I even tried a replay of V but 3D era GTA is just so much better it's laughable. What you see as 'aging' is for me much better game design (and worse graphics)
>>338500621
>No easy baby checkpoints, it's haaarddd!!
This is why I fucking hate the games of today, the only challenging game out there is dark souls, stop making games soo fucking accessible!.
This game aged worse than a Link to the Past
The 3DS version is superior
>>338506528
Now that's just objectively wrong tbqh famicom.
>>338500621
>This game is shit because I died and it requires marginally more thought than modern shooter
The controls are modern, I didn't get the point about slow, but I agree with weapon degradation.
>>338505426
Me neither, USA is an absolute police state.
>>338506656
>Dork souls
>challenging
>>338496093
>diet milk
You mean skimmed milk.
>>338506656
it had save game option what are you talking about
>le games age meme
no
>>338502568
>freedom and democracy
Hollow rhetoric. What I've seen US is actually more authoritarian than most eurostates.
>ib4 guns
>>338498284
But I played it this year for the first time and it was way better than BioShock.
>>338502260
It was a joke.
Nobody anywhere calls it that.
>>338496093
>playing the game
>get in car
>turn to wave channel
>listen to music and chill the whole time
Sometimes i'd just start the game up and do just that for a while.
>>338507413
Yeah but the missions where ball squeezing hard at time's, what I mean is check point's inside the mission didn't exist, they're is no punishment for failure, they're is no risk, in V it's literally Idgaf im just fucking around gameplay 24/7, soo boring, theirs no relief after finishing mission's it's just "meh I guess I finished that".
>>338506482
That game takes forever to load. Plus, cheesing it like that is just as pleb as getting a retry mission feature, isn't it?
>>338506573
Sheeeit. This one is still good in multiplayer. Call me a faggot and a 13 years old but i still love to run all across the map with silent perks and shoot everybody with MP5.
>>338504406
so what's the penalty for losing then?
>>338508098
The only reason why a lot of missions were hard is because they were simply piss poorly designed. San Andreas probably felt the worst when it came to this, but every 3D GTA suffered from certain missions that were either unfair or just had no logical thought put into them.
>>338499538
Man at least this one feels like a gritty city.
>Dat China town
>Dat Red Light district
>Dat metropolitan section
>Dat projects
Say what you want about the graphics being shit, GTA made me feel like some lowlife criminal scum in the gutters of New York
>>338496093
>>338501939
Morrowind never looked good. It was impressive at the time for being a huge open world, but it never looked good
>>338507029
Compared to Europe? At least in the US you can own a gun and can't be arrested for "hate speech."
>>338509986
>It was impressive at the time for being a huge open world, but it never looked good
Bethesda Game Studios in a nutshell
>>338510632
This right here flimflam. No matter what I say about niggers trannies or mudskins I can't get arrested for it. Americans take this for granted.
>>338510752
Someone hasn't tried to play the game in the last ten years. It's garbage to play.
>>338506742
LTTP isn't that bad now.
3DS is good, but the archaic level design holds it back.
>>338511068
I played it last week.
It's fine
>>338511227
I sure do love that cinematic 24 fps
>>338507524
>more authoritarian than most eurostates.
such as?
>>338511227
It's garbage. The fps are awful, the aiming sucks, the guns are unbalanced, the graphics make eyes bleed, the multiplayer isn't fun anymore.
I loved the game back when I got to rent it when I was younger and then borrowed it from a friend. Today it is not much fun to play with other people.
It's an influential game, but it has aged horribly.
>>338502568
So fucking bored of this american meme, you have no freedom, no democracy, no privacy, kindly fuck off you underage kid, adults are meming here.
>338511535
This post doesn't even deserve a reply.
Vice City should get a reboot in HD with new content
>>338496093
Every GTA before IV plays like shit now
Why do PC games always age worse than console games?
>>338511979
Are you retarded
GTA was always console series
Video games can not age
Movie can not age
Books can not age
Media does not age. Media can not become "dated." Media does not become altered through the passing of time.
Terms like "aged" and "dated" are simply terms used by people who have been conditioned by a post-2006 industry into being casual retards.
If a game was good when it came out. It's a good game forever. It's the exact same game. Nothing changed. And if you try comparing that game to a game that came out AFTER, then that's YOUR fault, not the games, for being retarded.
When you criticize media, you compare it to other forms of media that came out at the same time, or before. NOT after. That's retarded. It's not the game being "dated," it's you being stupid and not knowing how to criticize media.
>>338512343
Preach it
Most 3D games aged pretty poorly
Notable exceptions are things like Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, where the artstyle carries the entire game and it basically looks perfect for that kind of aesthetic even with the more 'primitive' N64 graphics
I also wouldn't say most SNES games look dated, probably again because of the art direction even though the graphics for some of the games I loved as a kid are like 25 years old now
Generally, the more photorealistic a game tries to be, the worse it ages
>>338504497
>implying a smaller map is a bad thing
Less land mass means less wasted space.
>>338499538
I only hate the fact that after certain missions gangs will always try to kill you and there's no way to eliminate them for good
>>338496268
The map is just right. Better than San Andreas with all that extra nothing.
>>338512343
/thread
>>338496093
fuckin ur mom lol
>>338506528
this, all that blurry shit.
>>338506817
He's right. You posted a shitty low-res blurry picture of an unflattering location in GTAIV
And judging by your retard underage facebook/reddirt speak, I'm sure you did it on accident too.
>>338507717
Same here, tried replaying Bioshock after and it felt so sluggish in comparison. SS2 has aged extremely well in all regards, it even looks good.
>>338499538
gta 2 is by far the only game in the series that aged good
Drakengard is clunky as fuck
>>338514294
aging implies that its contemporarys didnt control millions of times better
>>338496093
Games OP likes.
>>338510632
Literally what
What about safe spaces or whatever they're called in American/Canadian universities? No need to lie, senpai
>>338511413
Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Italy to some degree, the least shitty Eastern bloc states
>>338512343
No, this logic is very narrow-minded.
If in 1995 a game comes out with a new FPS control scheme then this innovation makes the game good at the time. Then in 2000 when a new FPS comes out with a much more refined and more sensical, then going back to the game in 1995 isn't as fun because while it was innovative at the time, we now see the many flaws of the game that were overlooked.
A shitty analogy would be building a new recipe. You have some chicken and then figure out that putting some pepper on it makes it taste pretty good. People love it and eat it up. Then later on, someone says "hey this tastes good if you bread it and fry it and then add pepper". People eat that shit up too, but that old recipe for chicken with only pepper is now bland compared to the new recipe and you see that it could have tasted better. Video games build upon one another, and the games that relied on innovation especially age the worst. Sometimes there are games that were innovative and aged perfectly fine. Some games weren't innovative and aged like ass. But aging is a thing in gaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV0qJd-phvQ
>>338512343
You're pretty fair here except for this here:
>Terms like "aged" and "dated" are simply terms used by people who have been conditioned by a post-2006 industry into being casual retards.
There's nothing casual or retarded by using "dated" or "aged" as terms. When you use them you compare them to newer media and what you're used to. Old movies can still hold up but vidya are harder because it's a newer media but also so many factors come into play determining your personal enjoyment. A movie doesn't have the same job as a videogame do, so comparing them is quite unfair.
>>338512343
90% of /v/ doesn't know how to criticize media, so I'm not surprised. It's why no one takes this board seriously.
Is this the shitposting and MUH FREEDUBS thread?
>>338514640
I'm from Spain and yes, when it comes at least to paying taxes, it's like living in a half-commie country, they really take a lot of taxes for everything
>>338511696
>The fps are awful
>24 fps
You people whining about FPS on old games is pathetic
>>338514687
Fucking this. It's amusing words like casual are thrown around to justify the narrow-minded logic that an old game can't be bad by modern standards.
![OB-item-Glass_Armor[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fYWw14h.jpg "OB-item-Glass_Armor[1].jpg")
Ayyy
>>338514687
>then going back to the game in 1995 isn't as fun
Only for retards holding it up to unrealistic and literally impossible standards.
Who gives a single fuck about a game that came out in 2000 when playing a game made in 1995? How much of a fucking idiot do you need to be to hold the game up to the standards of something that LITERALLY wouldn't exist for another half a decade?
Like I said, it didn't age, you're just making a shitty excuse.
and inb4 nostalgia
I'be been into retro gaming for a few years now, and I play games I never even seen before, and not once have I ever sat down and said "Oh, this game is bad because a game that came out a decade later is better."
>>338514945
Taxation does not equal authoritarianism, Javier
>>338509986
The world looked excellent you faggot. The only thing that held Morrowind severely back was the animations and character models.
>>338505336
I pick it up every few years and it's worse every time. I put about 30 hours into it in the past couple months and while it's got some admirable qualities people are way too defensive about it's numerous and significant flaws. It's not much better than Oblivion or Skyrim and there's a case to be made that it's worse than either.
There's only a few races worth playing, and only two star signs worth using. Half the skills in the game are completely worthless or functionally pointless. Magic is impossible to level without buying training, but completely OP when you commit to it.
People argue that the quests are better and deeper, but fuck no they aren't. The flavor text is better and the lack of fast travel/compass pads their length, but most actual quest content is literally no different than Skyrim or Oblivion.
It's not a bad game but almost everything wrong with Oblivion and Skyrim is also a problem in Morrowind, and Morrowind has a bunch of unique problems that the sequels solved.
>>338512343
>If a game was good when it came out. It's a good game forever.
But if our later opinions and criteria don't matter to judge the game, why do the opinions and criteria of when it came out matter? Tastes evolve, this is true for all media. It is true for humor. Some products/performances stand the test of time. In other words, they survive the evolving tastes, and are therefore more universally good. Others don't, they may have been perceived as great but, and for all intents and purposes were great, but on second/third thought, are flawed in some sense that wasn't obvious at the time.
>ITT games that retarded children can't play because muh modern sensibilities
fixed that for you OP
Fight me.
>>338514872
wat are you gonna do about it... asshole.
>>338504454
That's because fallout 1 and 2 age like fine wine. Only fallout 3 kiddies suffering from add think it aged poorly. The first time I played fallout 1 was in 2013 and I loved every second of it.
>>338514640
>What about safe spaces or whatever they're called
By your own admission you're not even familiar with "safe spaces" and have only heard of them on the internet. Let me explain free speech to you, since you're obviously a fucking retard.
Free speech means the GOVERNMENT, can't persecute you for anything you say. This is not the case in most Europoor countries where hate speech is a legitimate crime. A private institution, something Europeans may have a passing familiarity with, is well within their right to ban certain types of speech on THEIR property. They do not, however, have the power to pursue legal actions against a perpetrator of perceived hate speech, as the victim is protected under the first amendment.
Take Facebook/Twitter for example. They often get criticized for censorship, but they're private companies who give people platforms on which to speak. They're well within their right to take those platforms away and this does not imply a police state.
>>338498284
As a semi-dudebro gamer, I liked it.
Played it for the first time a couple of months ago. It was great for the most part, and the jagged polygon npcs actually looked sort of unnerving. There's an option which remaps the key bindings to that of your everyday shooter, so that isn't much of a problem either. My only real complaint is the shit soundtrack, the body of the many segment and the fact that there's no reloading animation.
Anyone know any other games in this vein? I have a massive hardon for rpg/fps hybrids, and I've already played all the shock games.
>>338515036
You completely missed the point. If in 1995 a game came out using a control scheme for a FPS that was innovative because it brought FPS to console, and then in 2000 a FPS is released that makes FPS more fluid on a controller, then going back to the 1995 game is like pulling out teeth dealing with what is now a terrible control scheme for a FPS. You overlooked the terrible graphics and poor multiplayer execution because it was the only game of its kind at the time. Now in the future, there are games that are all around better because they built upon the older games and could polish the game in other areas as well.
I could go back and replay my Super Play Action Football on the SNES but the only fun aspect will be the nostalgia and putting up with the terrible control scheme. Shit was fun as hell when I was younger and I could play forever but today it is bland. Super Smash Bros 64 was fun as fuck but Melee did everything it did better. Now Smash Bros 64 isn't a game I want to play or go back to unless it's for nostalgia sake. It hasn't aged as well. That is the point.
>>338515226
This.
The "games can't age" argument comes from butthurt over anons' precious nostalgia being threatened by even-handed criticism. "Aging" may be shoddy terminology but the point is not everything stands the test of time.
>>338516364
To have aged bad, the game had to have been good in the first place.
>>338512343
I have hard time reading older books because the vocabulary they use is so different from what I'm used to. So you can easily say that the age of the book is showing.
In similar way you come to expect certain things from movies and games and when try something older and they aren't there, the age shows.
Rayman 3
>>338496093
People should stop thinking that aged means shit
>>338515381
THRAAAAAAALL
Sonic Adventure
>>338516603
That was my shit. I'll never not be angry about what they did to Raving Rabbids
>>338516669
and yet barely any game has done half the things it did so well since
>>338514995
I actually loved the shiny glass armor. mmmm so shiny :))
>>338507524
This is actually true. Americans go on about our "democracy" when we actually don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic. And the whole freedom thing is a commonplace force fed to us since grade-school while simultaneously demonizing the Nazis and the Soviets for doing the exact same thing to create a popular conception of the nation. I would be hilarious if I wasn't actually living it.
But I do still love my guns.
>>338517548
We live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. It's a democratic republic.
At least we don't incarcerate/behead journalists for talking shit about the regime. Think about it, any story you read about the administration's corruption, $hillary's various fuck ups were brought to you by journalists who are still allowed to work.
We still have the right to call the president a nigger and not face legal repercussions for it.
>>338502260
>Calling skimmed milk low-fat or light milk
Get the fuck out of here
>>338502568
>>338515664
>A private institution, something Europeans may have a passing familiarity with
kek'd
>>338514114
GIMME YOUR WALLET
The early 3D GTA game aged quite well compared to half the other games that came out in the early 2000s. If you want something that aged like dog shit go play the first Far Cry game.
Perfect Dark on N64
Holy fuck how did I manage to play it for so many hours at a time
>>338517896
>We still have the right to call the president a nigger and not face legal repercussions for it.
It's a shame Trump whats to enact pussy libel laws to fuck over freedom of Press and protect people from hurt feelings.
>>338515664
>being this mad
Careful so you don't get SWATted, Joe
>>338518573
Not mad, just annoyed by Eurocucks/pussies who don't understand free speech trying to claim that American's free speech is limited.
>>338518501
That's something I don't like about him. He claims to be anti PC culture but wants to shut down the press when they shit talk him, because his ego is so fragile.
>>338517896
Ya trump said in front of thousands of people he wants to sue people who say bad shit about him,kinda sounds like a SJW.
>>338517909
There's a difference between skimmed and light milk, you absolute fucking retard. Kill yourself. Now.
>>338498284
>>338500621
>>338501456
>>338506656
>>338506972
>attempt to hit a monkey
>miss
>aiming directly at it
>miss
>miss
>die because he shot me twice
>>338509986
It's not the graphics that have aged, the whole thing has
>>338512770
I think he means that the map icon in the bottom left corner is tiny and hard to read.
>>338514995
Yes but it still holds a very special place in my heart and I don't think any game made me feel how I did playing Oblivion.
>>338518839
You obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about, which isn't surprising considering you're too fat to even read a thread. Most of the countries that was mentioned earlier (at least Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland) have way more freedom of press than your country. But sure, continue living in the delusion that Murrica is the best country in the world and that every European country is a shithole. Protip: you're wrong. Have a nice day, anon.
>>338518969
I prefer the no handholding approach to the design desu. Mudcrabs meme aside, having to consult the map and read road signs adds to my immersion.
>>338519310
>Countries that prosecute hate speech
>More freedom
okay.
>>338519313
Not that either
The combat is dogshit
>>338518881
Git gud casual scum kill yourself millenial cuck omg
Straight Shota 2 has literally no faults
>>338498284
can confirm, it's really fucking clunky, similar to trying to replay NWN in the current year. It feels like the controls and gameplay exist to confuse you. Also baldurs gate, some games age like festering dogshit.
>>338514995
Glass armor looked like shit in Skyrim, too
>>338519482
Why don't you look into the laws of those countries, you trailer trash piece of shit
>>338519521
>The combat is dogshit
Very true.
>>338499538
nah you are retarded, the game is still perfectly functional and easy to pick up and play. Games that have actually have aged like milk have archaic gameplay and controls
>>338519639
You seem upset. Careful, that might be interpreted as hate speech in your country, which, as we know, is a crime.
>>338518432
>If you want something that aged like dog shit go play the first Far Cry game
What?
>>338518580
Fuck you bro
I've found that games that run on sprites seem to age better than early 3D games that use big, blocky polygons and usually come cluttered with awkward camera controls and unresponsive gameplay.
>>338498284
System shock remastered when
System Shock 3 fucking when
>>338501907
So don't fail a mission.
Literally the first time I ever failed a mission in this series that didn't involve remote control planes was the bank robbery in GTA4.
Git gud.
>graphics = hasn't aged well
and that's why /v/ can't talk about video games. graphics mean nothing compared to gameplay
>>338496268
I replayed it recently, still had fun, but I did notice some issues compared to SA.
>Cars handle like ass
>Can't move the camera with the mouse in a car
>Gunplay not too great
>Cars spawning/despawning when you move the camera around
Still a fun game, but playing both VC and SA you realize just how much SA improved things.
>>338515131
Except it never looked good.
>>338519639
Not him, but
http://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/al-mohler/criminalizing-christianity-swedens-hate-speech-law-1277601.html
Literally took me 20 seconds.
>>338518969
>Dat dice roll combat system.
garbage from the start
>>338520321
>Sweden
Are you literally retarded? Sweden was never mentioned in the thread. Read what the fuck you're responding to, fatso
>>338519523
>Straight Shota 2 has literally no faults
definitely
>>338515036
People always compare everything that they consume to other similar things: if you watch a movie, you compare it to other movies of the same genre, if you eat something, you are bound to compre it to other similar things you have eaten.
So why vidya would be a special case where everything exists in a void, distanced from all your other experiences?
>>338509986
bullshit, it looked good for it's time... it's also not archaic in the slightest as you can figure it out relatively easily (although the Bethesda levelling/skill system are pretty archaic by modern standards)
>>338520427
Okay
globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/updates/2016/02/somethings-rotten-denmark-criminalizing-blasphemy-hate-speech-law/
Literally 10 seconds.
>>338499538
this, I used to love gta 3 but wew. It's rough.
The mark of a classic game (timeless) is that it is easy to pick up and play aka it does not feel like the controls/gameplay exist to mindfuck you
Especially compared to the game prior.
>>338520618
I compare it as well. To other forms of media within it's genre that came out at the same time, or prior. NOT after.
>>338515226
Evolving tastes is a fallacy in and of itself. Tastes don't evolve, they change as society changes with it, sometimes even going back to being the same as they were a decades ago (see Retro bullshit). That's why art should be seen as it was on the time it came to be, and it's impact measured as how many generations can still be affected by it.
That said, video games aren't art, so I completely agree with you. Design can always be improved, made better, more reliable, sleek, pretty, whatever. Video games have always been and always will be a design work. If you look at a well constructed bridge and feel a tickle in your buttock, you can say that it is art, but it doesn't change the fact that it was the product of a well studied design, with a very obvious meaning behind it; to bridge two gaps.
The term aging is stupid though.
>>338499673
>complaining about the money
Speak for yourself but when i first played it i was struggling with money all the damn time
>>338496093
ITT casual phone shit' s being to spoiled to get into older games.
>>338521294
>to bridge two gaps
A gap.
It's sunday and I'm drunk.
>>338520726
If that took shorter time than your first post, why didn't you post this to begin with?
>>338502568
>freedom
>having to pay large sums of money to not die
>>338521409
This. Kill yourselves, neo-/v/ faggots.
>>338508071
Now I go out into the car, crank the AC, and plug in my Zune to play the radio stations off that. I don't have the CDs, I just got the full hour radio track off youtube so it's always in the same order, but I get commercials. The best one is the previews for the movie
>>338517896
>At least we don't incarcerate/behead journalists for talking shit about the regime.
True. You just incarcerate everybody fucking else.
>>338521449
I'm getting better every time I do it.
>>338500621
I wonder how all the teens back than (like myself) made it through the game. Are your gamer skills worse than that of a teen? How fucked up are you?
![260px-Super_Mario_64_Boxart[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ChevjXO.png "260px-Super_Mario_64_Boxart[1].png")
>>338496093
Tried it for the first time last week.
The controls are garbage.
>>338512343
>that honey boo boo episode of south park didn't age you guys
ok
>>338521945
>back than
Learn to write, and maybe people won't disregard you're uneducated piece of shit post.
>>338512770
>las vegas
>desert landscapes
>rolling green hills
>back country redneck shit
>nothing
what a terrible argument. fuck it, 99% of the buildings in every GTA game are pointless, lets just remove them.
>>338498284
Anyone that thinks this is probably underage.
>>338504454
>>ctrl+f
>>no fallout 3
ftfy
>>338496093
ITT millenials that don't know what gameplay is
>>338506742
But that's not Twilight Princess.
ITT neo-/v/ scrubs that should be permabanned for being shitty casuals
>>338512343
You must skip the entirety of the 1950s and 1980s, then.
>>338524395
I hope you're not referring to movies, because the best films are from the 40s-80s.
>>338505927
Yeah it looks at lot better than III/VC/SA
It's a shame it's horrendously un-fun.
>>338521620
>TIM! THEY'VE GOT YOU'RE WIFE!
>BUT I'M NOT MARRIED!
>YOU ARE NOW. TO AMERICA!
>>338524076
neither does gta LOL
>>338524076
I actually thought VC was the worst of the three of them because of the gameplay. Specifically the driving gameplay.
The roads fucked around too much with too many random pointless turns. You never felt like you could really pick up speed. I suspect this was because they wanted to make the map feel bigger than it was, but it still was irritating.
Driving through LC in III really made you feel like you were engaging in mayhem.
>>338522310
have you tried a half a press?
>>338522310
What the fuck is wrong with the controls?
Use stick to move, press A to jump, press B to punch
Legend of Zelda
Super Mario 64
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of TimeYou know I'm right so don't even try to argue
>>338512343
"This game hasn't aged well" is a concise and simple way of saying "Standards have evolved and this game is well below these new standards, making it a way less enjoyable experience nowadays, when you have a larger catalog of video games to play with a ton of them being better than this game in what it's trying to do"
Hope this helps
>>338505139
Lmao
>>338515930
Deus Ex might be up your alley if you haven't played it already. Could also give VTMB a shot. You're not quite as ISOLATED as you are in Shock 1 & 2, but they still scratch a similar itch
>>338515930
>no reloading animation
That actually does suck, I mean I understand if it was because of resources and shit but man, I like myself reloading animations.
>>338526143
You should actually play those games
SM64 holds up superb today and you literally don't have any argument to say otherwise
>>338518881
Git gud
SS2 melee doesn't works like a hitscan weapon, it hits stuff with the attack swing so gotta learn the hit patterns and timing
Wonder, why no one has mentioned this one here...
Games that have aged like fine wine.
>>338528124
t. nostalgiafag
>>338498284
Basically this, game text is made to be read by ants, it's thoroughly unplayable
brb going to store to purchase some diet milk along with my diet burgers and diet beer
>>338524262
Please, the only people who should be banned are LoL players.
>>338526143
It's funny that you posted some genuinely timeless games
>>338530127
Imagine TS being released today
>>338529939
I was actually was going to try the game for the first time after a friend let me try DS3, who is it bad?
>>338521379
How is that even possible? All you could buy was guns, hookers, and pay n spray, and they were cheap as fuck
>>338505927
The shadows are such hot fucking garbage.
>>338530685
It absolutely isn't bad, but it may feel dated considering how much 3 polishes up the gameplay and graphics. It's still worth playing, each game in the series has different strong points, despite being very similar on the surface
>>338530685
It's a solid game, still. Can still stand up as best in the series.
>>338503762
No it's tedious
>>338531183
>>338531264
Thanks anons, just bought it on HB.
>>338499538
>too shitty of a driver so couldnt win Payday for Ray
FUCK YOU RAY JUST TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE STOP SENDING ME TO PAYPHONES
>>338520959
Really? I think OoT has aged like stale dog shit. TP still feels pretty okay to me.
>>338522407
That's because it's satire, obviously media about current events is going to age and become irrelevant and thus un-funny.
>guys, this newspaper from 1986 aged like shit, nobody even lives in Chernobyl anymore, who gives cares?
>>338530127
Is this better or worse than future perfect?
I pirated FP on the xbox but never actually played it, when I finally got around to playing it I found a generic console shooter, somehow playing even worse than the standard for a console shooter with clunky movement, low fov, and painful gunplay, but with some novel characters and diverse settings.
>>338496093
>literal retards cock jockeying, GTA VC.
>will unironically call it better than GTA SA because they still can't get over getting cucked
>they will argue that it's better than GTA 5
The map was horribly small even for the time, Tommy was a fucking moron who they tried to ham fist into being an Italian version of theatrical Scarface from the 80's when they literally could have gone more realistic and made him into Al Capone in the 80's which is not what the movies (not the original or the remake) really tried to do. The rest of the characters were boring as fuck. The sound track was only the best if you're a fucking hipster waxing poetic about the 80's which in truth was so fucking shitty, people who actually grew up during that time look back in disgust and the ones who don't probably actually like hair metal or synth pop.
GTA SA was, is and probably will continue to be the best game in the series. It was a perfect culmination of mechanics that were being built up from GTA 3 and it did all of them very well.
>>338533724
>cucked
What does this word even mean anymore?
