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>Aldrich, Devourer of Gods (plural)
>Wields Gravelord sword

Aldrich ate Gwyndolin AND Nito

Discuss
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Well duh.
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>raised catholic
>ate the body of a god once a week
>never gained any powers

DS3 lore is bullshit.
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>>338487839
He didnt eat Nito, People underestimate Aldrich way too much. Think about it.
>DREAMT about priscilla
>Manages to create a whole new miracle based on her scythe
He doesnt WIELD gravelord sword, When you enter his halls he BUFFS his catalyst,
I'll bet you he read or heard about Nito somewhere and created that buff himself.
There's a reason he managed to get such an incredibly large cult following and was crowned lord out of sheer power.
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Didn't we kill Nito in 1? How could he eat him?
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>>338487839
>lore
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Aldrich was a mistake.
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>smough
>ate men
>last knight of the cathedral
>gwynevere
>implied relation to rosaria through bountiful sunlight and leonhard running to her gwynevere's room with rosaria's soul
>archdeacon royce, the archdeacon fight in deacon of the deep, specifically worshipped rosaria
>presumably before saint aldrich had visions of the deep, the entire cathedral was used as a way to worship another belief, and rosaria was a centrepiece
>aldrich was likely a high ranking member of this religion, a saint who ate people
>who else would be allied with gwynevere, highly respected and well positioned, who also eats people?
>Smough's set can only be bought after defeating aldrich, not off an umbral ash like other ds1 references like the eastern ashes
>smough's hammer is found in what is presumably the most top class house in irithyll, and likely owned by sulyvahn, this presumably means that he wasn't actually in the cathedral before aldrich got there, eliminating the possibility that aldrich simply ate smough
>sulyvahn gave aldrich and his archdeacons top class access to irityhll and the cathedral
>smough is likely high up in the irithyll/boreal class system, and so is pontiff, having allied himself in a false veil of being a moon magic guy, rather than his actual sorceror like nature, as described by the greatsword of judgment, and they may have even conspired
>smough described as only having a "past as an executioner gives reason to believe he became trusted and respected

smough is aldrich
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>>338487839
Aldrich is easily my favorite Dark Souls villain. There's something mystical and somewhat Shakesperean about his character, this lost cleric who forcibly ascended past humanity and hollowing through gluttony alone.

If the traditional Hell existed in Dks3, Aldrich would become the king of the circle of Gluttony, a huge pile of goo that constantly devours the damned, and is constantly consumed by the damned.
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>>338488158
He had to eat Gwyndolin to dream of Priscilla, so unless he ate Pinwheel or something, he can't have known.

Plus, his body also looks like Nito
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>>338487839
How the fuck could he have eaten Nito? That means the Chosen Undead didn't kill Nito and use his soul in the lord vessel which means the CU never completed the game. This is bullshit because obviously the CU linked the flame going by how the Soul of Cinder looks and fights.

If anything Aldrich found a piece of Nito's sword and put it on a stick. All those skeletons you find on him are people HE ATE.
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>>338487839
>aldrich ate gwyndolin
Yes.

>aldrich ate nito.

No.

please see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HgEdjarCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4MghoI5LH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpy6joNDO7I

Thanks.

>Devourer of Gods.
You only have to devour 1 god.

eg, Kill one king, become 'Slayer of kings' not 'Slayer of King'

>gravelord sword.
Literally everyone who said hi nito got a gravelord sword.

+ its actually a spell hes casting on the catalyst. The 'sword' goes out when he died.

+everyone who spoke to nito got a sword he could of just killed+ate one of the many gravelords.

Watch the videos then eat shit.
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>>338488476
His body is black because its fucking good and there's skeletons because he ate people, It's not rocket science.
>He had to eat Gwyndolin to dream of Priscilla, so unless he ate Pinwheel or something, he can't have known.
>Pointing out the obvious
I was talking about the Nito bit.
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>>338488585
+ we killed nito in ds1, nito is not alive to be eaten you shitfuck.
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>>338488660
Did we not kill Gwyndolin in DaS1?
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>>338488660
>kill a chicken
>for some reason someone else can't eat the chicken now
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>>338488643
*Because its fucking goo
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>>338488701
Gywndolin is optional and he was alive right before DaS 3 so I guess not
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Aah,
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>>338488701
it was optional so i guess killing him wasnt cannnon
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What happened to all that shit about the Lord Souls basically just being reincarnated as another thing? Like how The Rotten was Nito and the like
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Why is everyone assuming he ate Nito alive? He could have eaten his corpse.
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>>338488701
Not canonically, Gwyndolin is an optional boss, Canon says the chosen undead only killed his way to the lords and then gwyn.
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>>338488701
someone didnt watch the videos

>>338488707
All nito is, is bones. If he ate nito he just ate bones. Where is your proof that he ate nito?
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>>338488809
Some stupid unoriginal shit from DaS2
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>>338488913
I never said anything about him eating nito, just that him being dead doesn't stop him from being eaten.
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So are they related?
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>>338488913
What videos?
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>>338488367
But Aldrich was a cleric, not a knight
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>>338489107
>>338488585
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>>338489069
We SEE his entire body disappear, and even IF someone ate his now dead "Body" of skeletons, You'd get nothing from it, His soul, The main source of his power, was removed.
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>>338489106
hes wearing a warped firekeeper mask
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>>338489106
Probably not, White hair just indicates sickness 90% of the time in the dark souls universe.
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>>338488585
Please don't shill your channel here, especially after saying bullshit like
>WEW THE GAME NEVER SAYS THAT ALDRICH ATE NITO!
>why does he have a gravelord sword?
>WHAT IF HE ATE SOME GRAVELORD SERVANTS? HUH?

Also fuck off with your muh rage pandering to reddit.
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Speaking of lore, anyone got a download to Despairing Fates by Soulmass?
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>>338488367
I doubt that. Its almost a fact that Ornstein traveled to Nameless King after the events DAS1 and had a duel with him and lost.

1 of the 4 knights of Gwyn the Captain of the group and the Famed DragonSlayer. His fate was sealed against the traitorous first born of Gwyn.

But Aldrich is a canibal who learned to eat people and gain power boosts. When he came across the dead bodies of Nito, and Gwyndolin he ate their bodies but he couldnt maintain his orginal body and transformed between Gwyn/Nito Mix.

Smough is dead bruh since DAS1. Doesnt mean he wasnt a legend in himself. Keeping his warhammer, and the leos ring right next to it was probably a status symbol.
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>>338489194
>an hour worth of lore autists bickering

wew lad call me when he drops an abridged version

And if that's you, stop shilling.
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>aldritch
>a distended butthole monster that sucks the lower half of traps

>oceiros
>a naked furry who puts his balls and butthole in your face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
the game is gay bro
just admit you like gay things
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>>338488585
well he didn't eat gwyndolin then, it's just his normal form

see how he doesn't have a bow, it's just a spell
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>>338489106
Yes. Gwyndolin is their uncle.
The Queen of Lothric = Gwynevere
Lothric, Lorian and Ocelotte are among her children.
So yes. Gwyndolin is Prince Lothric and Lorian's uncle. The white haired twink/boipussy gene runs in the family.
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>>338487839
>best girl
>gets eaten
shit game. at least he moans a bit.
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>>338489492
DaS3 is definitely the gayest Souls game yet.

fucbois everywhere
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>>338489528
He is using a bigger version of gwyndolins catalyst.

>>338489401
>Everyone in gravelord covenant which has been around for ages gets the sword.
>Aldrich eats a gravelord
>gets the sword/idea for sword.

>NONO HE MUST OF EATEN THE KING OF GRAVELORDS IT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL SOLUTION!
gtfo
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>>338488585
>this retarded channel again

jesus fucking christ, your videos are worse than fucking angry joe
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>>338488585
Holy shit this guy is a mad faggot
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>>338489492
Will you ever stop shilling your videos? You're on the level of becoming the next manlet tears.
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>people STILL pretend this series has lore
>at best it's about some loser eating people over centuries

No surprise it appeals to neckbeards. You idiots actually enjoy discussing something this retarded like it matters.
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>Makes an argument that counters every possible point
>s-s-s-stop shilling!

Never change /v/
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>>338488228
We killed gwyndolin as well.
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>>338489715
I'm not talking about that shit, you idiot.

You're literally saying
>IT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE DESCRIPTIONS!

Literally show me where the fuck in the descriptions there's something about eating a gravelord, because I can only see shit about eating Gods.
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>>338489875
I'd rather discuss Dark Souls 3 than shill my shit and make shitpost bait threads about AAA garbage
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>>338489884
Fuck off, Jacob
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So Andre is obviously McDuff. Both are blacksmiths, and you find the craftsmans hammer in dark Firelink. This means that Firelink is actually the Lost Bastille. So the Kiln of the First Flame was also obviously connected to the Lost Bastille. You know who else is Lost in a Bastille? The Lost Sinner, who is Gwyn.
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>>338487839
If he ate Nito he also ate the Bed of Chaos or at least Quelana.
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>>338489884
>makes an argument that is denied by his own argument

Fuck off kid, you will never be muh vaati
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>>338487839
They're just pubes.
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>>338490042
no, he's just a lord of cinder
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>>338488228
Maybe he ate something that had nitos soul, like how the rotten had in ds2
Or maybe he ate nitos corpse, since we only took the soul?
Or maybe Aldrich was the chosen undead of his world and chose the dark lord ending?
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Aldritch is obviously Pinwheel. Think about it.
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>>338489894
A Gravelord is just anyone that joined the covenant.

Its entirely possible that one of the manymanymany people aldrich ate was a gravelord.

What is more likely, aldrich slithered down to bumfuck nowhere to eat a handful of skeletons which was all that was left of nito, no soul left because we took it in ds1.

Or ate a gravelord and just emulated the sword style using a spell.
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>>338490157
Or aldrich is a capable fucking magician that created a spell BASED on Nitos weapon just like how he did with Priscilla.
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>>338489183
Not a Knight of gwyn, but a knight of gwynavere
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>>338488585
>im a big fan of Vaati

why would I watch this?
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>>338490214
That's just fucking dumb

Are you really implying that From Software put a God's weapon on a FUCKING DEVOURER OF GODS to say "well, he ate someone who was in his covenant!"
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>>338488476
He could have learned about into from gwyendolin, after all, gwyndolin was the one protecting into with a fog gate.
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>>338490737
because it's hilarious xD

he rages!1 XDDDD
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Why is there a Coffin for Aldrich?

Did he die?
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>>338491037
why was there a coffin for nito?
was he dead?
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Nito is being devoured by Aldrich right below Gwyndolin. You'd have to be blind not to see that.
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>>338488585
Fuck off i only trust Vaati this guy is a liar
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Finally getting DS3, kinda feel like playing an Archer character since I never have across any of the Souls games.

Is KB+M actually usable in 3 or am I going to be stuck with shitty controller aim for aimed shots? If KB+M is better I'll probably take the time to learn how to use it.
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>>338491097
It's clearly Nito devouring Gwyndolin, and Aldrich devouring Nito.
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>>338490928
Again, They didnt, He buffed his weapon with it.
Refer to
>>338490296
>>338488585
>>338488158
He's black and filled with skeletons because he's slime that ate people alive.
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>>338487839
You only get Nito's sword if you join his faction. Obviously he was a Gravelord Servant.
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>>338488291
why does that squid have boobs but no eyes
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>>338488585
>being smug about your own head canon

Terrible videos
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For who were the Catacombs made?
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>>338490928
And are you implying that from software would make Aldrich go and eat Nito and not mention it at all in the entire game?

You want to know why its not mentioned in the game? Because it didn't happen.

All thats left of Nito is BONES. Why would aldrich do all that shit just to eat BONES. Plenty of bones about without having to fuck off to nito's lair.
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>>338491612
The dead Carthus Warriors of course.
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>>338491219
Except that the Nito part of him is defintely skeletons entangled in the fabric Nito's coat was made from and doesn't look remotely similar to the goo parts of Aldrich.
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>>338491727
>it's not mentioned explicably
>so it didn't happen

Welcome to Dark Souls games, I hope you enjoy them
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>>338491727
Nobody eats in the Dark Souls universe for nutrition. And I doubt random bones have much in way of souls.
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>>338491839
Nito never had a coat, Miyazaki confirmed it was an "Aura"
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>>338491094
>>338491037
But seriously.

Why is there a coffin for Aldrich, in the Cathedral of the Deep, guarded by Deacons?
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>>338491965
>it's not mentioned explicably
It is mentioned that he devoured gwyndolin. Why wouldn't they mention that he ate Nito?
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Why was Sulyvahn such a bastard?
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>>338492138
Power thirsty as fuck, Smartest bastard in the entire game too.
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>>338492079
because like nito, he is undeath and sleeps in a coffin
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>>338492079

Same reason there's a tomb for Gwyn I suppose; reesPEC

That or is ashes/corpse just got tossed into there after they somehow salvaged it from the Kiln.
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>>338488148
because your god is fucking lie unlike the giants
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>>338488585
>this guy
>HES DIDNT ATE NITO
>EVERYTHING HE EATS JUST TURNS INTO SLUDGE
>but gwyndolin isnt sludge
>ABALALALSLA HE WAS DEVOURED MUH PAST TENSE
>but gwyndolin is not sludge so this is conflicting
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>NOW LOOK AT MY CHERRYPICKED COMMENTS

pls end yourself
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>>338492079
Because it's a great holy symbol to them
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Still the best lore video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsiX_xkjuQ
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>>338492138
Something tells me some DLC is going to paint him as the Ocelot of DSIII. A good guy having to be a bad guy in order to do good things.
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>>338492474
did you find it in /r/gaming?
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>>338492435
Usually people worship a coffin of a worshiped character after they die, because they cant worship the character itself.

Aldrich is pretty alive
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>>338492683
OR IS HE?!?!?!
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>>338492752
D E E P E S T

L
O
R
E
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https://youtu.be/P6vCZdcp6hE
>0:14
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>>338488880
So maybe bearer of the curse didn't do any dlc and just sat on the kiln. It would explain his absence.
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>>338492374
Good one, heretic.
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>>338492683
>The person you worship is powerful as fuck
>Leaves his sanctum for more things to eat
>Implying you would dare to walk the same path as the Lord you admire
He still has elite worshipers all over irithyll, Not to mention his archdeacon Mcdonalds died there although probably from the pontiffs creatures.
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>>338488158
Jesus m8 you're headcannoning way too much.
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>>338492579
>He was actually just trying to stop the Primordial Serpents
>And he would have succeeded if you didn't kill him
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>>338493118
>Seeing him buff his weapon to look like Nitos Sword and it being a buff he made himself is a stretch
>But aldrich eating and taking over an already dead nito to gain his appearance and power isnt
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>>338487839
Those sexy lips
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If aldrich ate nito then why the fuck didnt he use any of nitos spells? More specifically the gravelord dance or the dark explosion.
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Is that Nito's coffin in the Cemetary of Ash?
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>>338489106

Maybe? The item description for his armor goes out of its way to say his armor is dyed brass armor that looks a lot like the Darkmoon Knightess Firekeeper.
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So is there a lore based reason why blues are so bad and easy to kill?
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Can someone please explain Hawkwoods whole thing?

Why does he start thinking he's a dragon then use the Farron Greatsword?
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>>338487839
How did Aldrich devour gwyndolin and nito if you killed them?

At least with gwnydolin, you can argue that he's an optional boss and the "canon" story has him undefeated in gwyn's tomb. But nito had to be killed
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>>338493670
He discovered the way of the dragon and it is trying to become one, anon. You are the only thing on his way, so he'll use all that he has to stop you. Simple as that!
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>>338493625
Pretty sure it's Yhorm's.
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>>338493625
It's the champs
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>>338493668
Take into consideration how seldom blues are summoned. If someone just wants to be a Blueberry they have very little chance to git gud at PvP. Compare that to an Invader who can just use an item and instantly start PvPing.
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>>338493832
maybe Aldrich is the Chosen Undead
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This game is complete fucking bullshit. "Oh, you're 15 feet above me? I can still hit you :)" "Walls? I can hit through those." Armor does fuckall, try to summon and you get stuck with some fucking retard who can't play worth shit. Far and away, 3 is the worst game in the series.
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>>338494379
>30 vigor
>still die in two hits to fucking everything
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>>338492114
Because that's the standard of the nips' """"esoteric""" storytelling
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>>338494582
Can't carry enough arrows to kill the two dragons, can't run past them because "LOL, FIRE MY DUDES, it's going to kill you regardless of what you try to do."
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>>338494930
>Can't carry enough arrows to kill the two dragons
Untrue
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>>338494582
I'm on NG++ (journey 3) with 34 vigor and not even bosses are doing that much damage.

Maybe get some better armor?
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>>338494930
Jump off the side of the near end of the bridge and walk along the ledge you land on.
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Why is it said now that Ornstein left the cathedral if we killed him there in DaS1? Very confused by that armor description.
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>>338492138

He isnt though.

Sullyvahn is pretty much the only character that grew powerful enough to be independent of the Serpends and manipulate events according to his own will.

Plus he keeps pushing things so the fire never fades.

Sullyvahn was the only real enemy of the jewish serpents and we rekt him
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>>338489424
>Almost a fact
That doesn't mean anything. There's no body, so he's still alive.
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>>338487839
Who are the lords of cinder?
If the soul of cinder is Gwyn combined with everyone who linked the First Flame
then what are the Lords of Cinder?

What happened to Aldia, Alsanna and the furtive pigmy?

What is the profaned capital and what the relation between Yhorm and Siegward?
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Can we all agree that extinguishing the fire is the "good" ending?

The state of the world in DS3 should make it obvious what throwing a bunch of poor fucks into the fire every couple of centuries accomplishes.
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>>338495520
>this is what pontiffags believe
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>>338492138
Can someone give me a rundown on all the shit this guy did again? I only recall the Dancer shit, and him just helping create the religion around Aldritch, is that all there is to it?
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>>338495520
>>338493386
>still pretending the serpents are the ultimate bad guys
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>>338495798
He fed Gwyndolin to Aldrich.
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>>338493670
>>338495872
Go to bed, Kaathe
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>>338495520
>Sulyvahn is the baddest dude, the most powerful lore wise, the most intelligent and masterful
>he's a piss easy parry to win gatekeeper boss midway through the game

hackazaki really fucked up with that one
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>>338495342
Basically Gwyndolin's illusion powers.
Smough was real but Ornstein was an illusion.
So canonically the CU first killed the fake Ornstein and then super Smough and only got the fat guy's soul.
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>>338493670

He's probably a Farron reject that didnt make the cut.

Later he wants to become a dragon for some reason.

The use of the Farron Greatsword suggests he made peace with himself and ditched the shield to adopt the legion's ways
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>>338492079
Well, that sad guy in Firelink says that "they" threw him into the Cathedral of the Deep after he started eating bitches. The coffin was probably meant to contain him, and the Deacons were both worshipping him and preventing him from breaking free.

Little did they know that they were guarding an empty box, and that he was already back to eating people over in londor.
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>>338496531
Imagine if he actually used his summon as a stand
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>>338495798
Alright lets see here
>Fed a sick god to aldrich just so your slime friend can grow more powerful
>gives rings to his "trusted" knights that turns them into insane beasts
>Locked up Yorshka
>Gives himself a power position and names himself Pontiff
Almost 40% of the bad shit that happened in DS3 is because of the Pontiffs fuckery
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>>338491839
Deacons have that exact same material under their cloaks
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>>338496731

But memezaki said Solaire linked the flame regardless of what the player does, and Solaire is not a Lord of Cinder in this game

THis game is not canon
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>>338496531
Sullyvahns fight is fun as fuck if you dont cheese it
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>>338491219

Nito's cape was made of humanity.

Remember, Aldrich was a priest, and Nito used miracles.

It is possible that Aldrich was a gravelord and that explains why he has the Gravelord Sword (which was not unique to Nito)
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>>338487839
Guys time and space is convoluted in lordran.
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>>338495106
I'm wearing the best damage reduction armor I can without fatrolling. Practically everything two shots me anyway.
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>>338496945
Have you ever considered that maybe the Lords of Cinder that you fight in DS3 are just a handful of the most recent ones and not literally every Lord of Cinder who has ever linked the flame?
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>>338497032

he's still a mid game boss that just blocks the way to aldrich and is quickly disposed of, not a fitting position for someone who is clearly one of if not THE most important dude alive in the world at the time
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>>338496945
What
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>>338497080
Nito didnt have a cape, Miyazaki explained that he wanted Nito to have an evil aura, But had a hard time portraying how he really wanted it to look so he settled for a "cloth" like look to it.
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Which boss do you think has the best moveset? My favorite is Suly's. It's just really fun to watch
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if the player kills Nito in DS1 but his soul returns for DS2 and becomes the rotten

then why can't Aldrich have eaten Nito's soul yet again in DS3????

>nito deniers BTFO
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>>338494930
Are you retarded? Jump off the bridge onto the ledge below it and progress from there.
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Aldrich ate Nitos Corpse. And Bed of Chaos, which explains his 2nd phase.

Problem solved fuckkboys, call vaati.
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>>338497286

I really dislike the orange / purple combo.

Many things that should be deep blue are purple instead.

I also dislike how the game portrays the Profaned Flame as regular orange fire.

I'd have done magic blue and PF deep red
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>>338496926
Deacons have the exact same material growing out of their eyes.
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>>338497332
Alrdich being the one reborn with a part of Nitos soul is a possibility, But aldrich "eating" nito who is already dead and gaining his weapon is retarded.
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>>338497332

Dark Souls 2 is not canon

Only what appears in 3 is canon, and there's no reincarnation of souls shit in 3.

Aldrich resembling Nito is either B team being clueless about the lore again or a poor design choice
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>>338497480

>Dark souls 2 is not canon

Lol
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>>338497190
Yeah, but look at the required bosses AFTER him

>His lord of Cinder buddy
>Another Lord of Cinder
>Dragonslayer armour which is just there for the sake of being a boss fight and gatekeeper to Lothric
>Lorian and Lothric, which is the story final boss
>Soul of Cinder, the actual final boss

Dancer can be done before fighting Pontiff so that's not included. Other than Dragonslayer Armour, Pontiff is pretty much the last guy you fight before killing all the lords of cinder
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>>338494930
You only need to kill one if them. Or at least that's what happened to me
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>>338497552
He's correct.
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>>338497332
I'm pretty sure DaS 2 was just a dream or something
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>>338497469
You seem to forget the "time is convoluted" multiverse fallback built into every Souls game, meaning Aldrich could have just eaten the Nito that was still alive in his universe while the player killed Nito in his own, not effecting one another in any way. The same reason both the player and Solaire can link the fire.
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>>338497480
>Dark Souls 2 is not canon
>Several items pointing to the King of Want
>Including the Dragonrider Bow
>Laddersmith Gilligan is IN the fucking game
>Creighton the Wanderer is in the game
>Alva and his Entire Set is in the game
Dont be stupid.
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>>338495520
>and we rekt him
Nigga I was just passing through. I went to walk past him and he tried to "pssssshh" dashing decapitate me. He made himself into an enemy so don't go blaming me for that shit. Some fucking "genius".
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>>338497552

Only what appears in 3 about 2 is canon.

The rest has been forgotten.
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>>338497552
Dark souls 3 is literally damage control to fix the series before putting it down.
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>>338497795
You probably didn't even do the prostration gesture at him, you dumb heretic. No wonder he was pissed.
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>>338497795
You were the one who broke into his church after killing his knights
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>YOU SAY DS2 IS TOO HARD SO I MAKE DS3 EASIER YOU NOT HAPPY

>YOU SAY DS2 LORE SUCKS SO I MAKE EXPANSION TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU VAATI DICK RIDERS, YOU STILL NOT HAPPY!!!!

>I MAKE DS2 NON-CANON AND NOW YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT PLOT HOLES!!!!!!!!!!

>FACK YOU SOLAIRE IS GWYN'S BROTHER HE LINK ALL FLAMES AND IS PYGMY AND LORD OF ALL CINDERS AND EVERYTHING IS NON-CANON NOW YOU HAPPY????
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>>338497363
I've tried that. Tried running past the guys down there, if the spear guy hits me, the axe guy kills me while I'm stunlocked. I try to fight them, back up too much and that nigger snake cocksock kills me, even though I should be out of his reach. If I manage to make it to the bridge, the fagboy dragons kill me, one breathes fire, I'm stunned by the residual fire while the other does it. Even with flash sweat, I'm dead.
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>>338497897

At this point I just hope they eventually make a Dark Souls I remake in HD with new graphics and smooth mechanics, with all the added content that they couldnt finish.
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>>338498000

What is this Vaati meme?

He's not even making lore videos.

You portray him as the ultimate lorefag but many other youtubers are making great detailed lore videos and he's putting faggot-ass songs.
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>>338498026

complete fucking retard
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>>338497929
I'm not going to go full orz mode on someone who can't keep his subjects from trying to shit on me as soon as I pass through. Besides, it's sleep that works you dumb ninny.
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>>338498026
ROLL trough the fire trails
Wait for the dragons to do their Yawning or Stretching animation, They can't breathe fire during this time.
It really isnt that hard.
Also
>If the spear guy hits me, the axe guy kills me while im stunlocked
So fight them one on one? They can be stunlocked JUST as easily, So unless your damage is absolute horse garbage then you'll be fine.
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>>338494930
>implying I didn't run past the Dragons like a retard
>implying I give a fuck about residual fire
>mfw I found the Undead Bone Shard later
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>>338498125

vaat shillya only stopped after he got caught plagiarising some dude's bloodborne essay word for word
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>>338498000
>DS2
>hard
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>>338498000
TRIPS FOR TRUTH
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>>338496840

This makes sense. If I recall right, weren't we as the player under the impression that we were going to fight Aldritch in he cathedral, and then through dialogue its revealed his "true home" is further along the path or something like that? Like in Boreal Valley
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>>338489963
Oh.
My.
GOD!!
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>>338498026
Hoe much do you have in vigor? How in the possible fuck does the fire kill you that fast? You can run through that shit and just tank the damage at like 20 vigor.
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>>338497790
Fanservice =/= canon
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>>338498375
Isn't it implied somewhere that the Pontiff knew you were coming so he took his blobby friend to Anor Londo?
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>>338498706
>>338498375

the bell that rings and wakes everyone up also wakes aldrich up its right there in the intro cutscene
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>a random blob gets to eat out Gwyndolin's ass and you don't
Why live?
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>gwyndolin is the only god in orlando
>takes remains/souls/fuckever he can find
>mixes his gwynevere soul shard with seath
>creates yorshka
yes/no?
she is implied to be his sister in someway and shows very seathlike features.
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>>338496840
But the decoons know he left. The divided into 3 groups because of it.
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>>338498902
Yorshka might be Gywndolin and dragon girl waifu's daughter
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>>338497637
I like Sully as a boss, but the lore hype some people give to a guy that's just a henchmen is undeserved
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>>338499302
But he's literally hitler
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>>338499302
>henchmen
hes literally the one in charge
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>>338492382
He's still eating gwyndolin. Probably ate his legs, and started tonsucknout all his bone marrow, blood and insides, eating the skin last, or wearing it.
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>>338489963
Other theories I'm working on:

Manus is actually Nashandra's son who was sent back in time to Oolacile. Also, Nashandra is one of the Daughters of Chaos

The Mirror Knight is one of the Four Kings

Where's the Dragonrider's dragon? Dead. Why? Because it was Seath.

The Crystal Sage looks an awful lot like Logan and fights an awful lot like Pinwheel, doesn't he? Well, I'll leave that one for the slash fiction writers to imagine ;)
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>>338499486

Your theories are top shit.

Lost Bastille isnt firelink. Lost Sinner is implied to be the Witch of Izalith.

Manus is the furtive pigmy, the one that got the Dark Soul in the intor of Dark Souls I

Four Kings got rekt in Dark Souls I. The lore is convoluted because New Londo was a rushed part of the game, and at some time also featured Artorias

Seath had no riders, nor dragons. Dragonriders are riders of drakes and lesser dragon copies.

Logan is dead, Crystal Sages are just three very powerful scholars of the archives.

You're either 12 or have shit for brains or both most likely
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>>338499853
You do realize he was joking, right?
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>>338498375
No it doesn't, Aldrich and all the Lord's died and were awoken by the bell. Royce's stuff says the church has been guarding the coffin awaiting his resurrection, and his followers partook in eating people they weren't protecting anyone. The road of sacrifices was created to lead undead to be fed to Aldritch. When he awoke, Aldrich left for Irithyll because it's his hometown and the place where the old gods he wants to eat lived, and Sully, like all his followers, had been making preperations for his return by imprisoning Gwyndolin.
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>>338492079
Maybe that's how they captured him. I doubt he was sealed away willingly. Maybe he was eating into in his coffin, and these guys just came in and quickly shut the coffin lid down on it and chained it up real fast. Then they transported the coffin with Aldrich in it to the cathedral? Maybe Aldrich whispered through the coffin to the deacons and converted them to his side. They let him go and he went back to his home, where the sylavan welcomed him with open arms, and pointing him towards pontiff gwyndolin, knowing what would happen.
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Anyone care to explain why Memezaki came up with another daughter of Gwyn out of nowhere?

Why does Yorshka exist and why is she just like Priscilla?
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>>338499449
He's second in command.
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>>338500246
Aldritch, from what we have seen, seems to be more of a figure head
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This bitch, I have not even hit her yet.
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>>338500309
A figurehead whose teachings are law and the whole point of the church is to feed people to him?
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But WHEN is Aldritch supposed to have eaten Nito?
He, at some point, made his way down into the old catacombs and the Tomb of Giants and found Nitos bones, ate them and then moved on?
Was this before he was put in his tomb, or was it somewhere between leaving the cathedral and eating Gwyndolin?
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>>338495342
Time is convoluted, it could very well be an orenstien from a world where he wasn't killed.
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>>338495520
>mfw the whole game is an allegory about ZOG
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>>338495635
Lords of cinder are people with souls powerful enough to kindle the first flame
Soul of cinder is the memory of previous flame linkers
Aldia continued to research, probably in another country. Don't k ow who alsanna is, pygmey was forgotten.

But buddies. Siegward was like yhorms only friend.
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>>338498375
Yeah, Anri says that s/he and Horace were going to the Cathedral to find Aldrich when you first meet them.
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>>338499302
>Conquered Ithryll
>Made a dungeon right above the Profaned Capital he exploited and turned its survivors into jailers
>Created rings and gave them to enemies while sending them far away so he could turn them into monstrous allies and get away with it
>Turned one of the royal familys descendants into said monsters
>Then captured, imprisoned and fed Gwyndolin to his blob buddy
>Used his blob buddy to figurehead a religion that he was the head of, effectively becoming the most powerful non-lord of cinder in the land

He's pretty deserving of the hype
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>>338497731
Or maybe... A nightmare!

[Insert blood borne reaction face here]
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What's the explanation for the Pilgrim Butterflies?

Is everything reverting to the age of dragons?

Why does Sullyvahn have tree wings?
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Friendly reminder that Lothric didn't link the flame
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BEST GIRL
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G
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>>338492474
I want to shit on this Swedish faggot so hard for his accent
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>aldrich
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>>338500160
Gwyn's wife slept with death a lot. Its why we never hear about her, she was written out of history, like the firstborn, who also consorted with dragons.

Gwyn hates dragons
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>>338494930
Fucking look around you imbecile
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>>338487839
id eat gwyndolin if you know what i mean
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>>338489886
Amy optional boss isn't canonically killed. Nito wasn't optional
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>>338503343

Could Gwyn's wife be Velka?

It's also interesting how the Firstborn's Stormdrake has a crow-like appearance.
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>>338489589
Gwyndolin is a guy and Gywnevere was dead before DS1 even started.
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>>338503668
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>>338501656
He probably also is the one who imprisoned rosaria, yorshka, karla and stole the profaned flame.
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So when we fight Aldrich with Gwyndolin's upper body. Is Gwyndolin in the process of being slowly devoured. Or was Gwyndolin devoured long a go and he maintains an aspect of the body 'cause he feels like it? Is Gwyndolin "alive", or just an empty husk?
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>>338489424
Wait, how the fuck did Ornstein travel to fight Nameless King after being killed dead by Chosen Undead? The fuck is this bullshit?
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>>338503668
screw that censoring
post source
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>>338503921

It's just a shit and quick solution to the boss fight.

Originally Aldrich was going to use cool water mechanics for the fight, but memezaki couldnt pull it off and instead chose to make Aldrich Gwyndolin with Nito skirt and a turd for legs.

Don't look into Aldrich's lore based on his appearance too much because it is the way it is because the team rushed it.
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>>338504043
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3179202
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>>338503921
Probably still being devoured. Probably not alive though.

I assume Aldrich works kind of like a snake, where it takes a long time to digest things and they just travel down its body in the order they were eaten.
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>>338502206
They are the pus of man that comes out of pilgrims. Why they turn into flaming butterflies instead of regular snake monsters is never explained, but I believe it's because they were exposed to the profane flame, since Sully who studied the profane flame gets the butterfly wings and the statues of the deep show the transformation into pilgrim butterflies

>>338501656
>figurehead

Where is this meme coming from? Because nothing in the game implies Aldrich is anything short of the master of the deep evangelists
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>>338503921
GwyndoLin is dead. Aldrich ate his insides and is wearing his smooth skin like a sock puppet.
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Daily reminder that Aldia is almost single handedly responsible for the plot of DS3 and that the usurpation of fire ending is exactly what he and vendrick were seeking.
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>>338504129
Aldrich doesn't seem to actually be leading anyone, they just kind of follow him around. Yeah he is the object of worship and his word is probably law, but pontiff is the one actually doing the leading and speaking. He's " the mouth of aldrich"
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What was Oceiros' problem?
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Anyone having issues with summons as of last night/today? I'm in America, and summons were working just fine before. But now I can neither summon nor be summoned at all right now.
>not lore, but this was the first ds3 thread in the catalog
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>>338504814
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>>338488228
Well what about DS2 the rotten? That was supposed to be Nito reborn. Which makes sense that the lord of thendead can't truly die unless he is absorbed.
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>>338503862
Gwyndolin is a girl.
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>>338504661
This. People seem to mistake figurehead for meaning someone is a poster child.
Aldritch is probably like, say Hitler: he's telling his group what needs to be done and what their goals should be, but Pontiff is the one figuring out how to reach them and commanding the followers on an individual basis.
Aldritch has more important shit to do than busywork micromanaging a flock.
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>>338504814

Memezaki looks like McDonell
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>>338505391
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>>338505212
The soul reincarnation thing was kind of ignored.
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>>338505391
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>>338505447
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>>338502845
i am also thine
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ALDRITCH ATE NITO OR CAME ACROSS HIS BLESSINGS/FAVOR SOMEHOW. THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY TO ARGUE AGAINST IT. ALDRITCH USES HIS GRAVELORD SWORD AND HAS MATTED TANGLED FUR WITH SKELETONS TANGLED INTO IT.

SHIT, HIS THEME EVEN HAS ELEMENTS OF NITO'S THEME ALONGSIDE THE GWYNDOLIN BITS.
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>>338505158
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>>338505496
Reading about the rottens lore perhaps aldrich is nito as nitos lifeforce brings smaller souls into himself. Nito was many skeletons combined, rotten was many corpses combined. And aldrich ate men and then gods. He was sleeping in a coffin in church of the deep the coffin somewhat looks like the one in nitos domain. Interesting.
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>>338502845
her accent is so fucking sexy, I'd force her to sing "Feliz Navidad" during sex

shame her design is shit
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>>338499934

Autistic people and most americans can't read subtext or understand sarcasm/irony.
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>>338497461
>>338496926
So Nito is closely tied to the Deep/Corruption of the Deep

Big whoop.
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>>338506356
Drawfag from /dsg/ krekk0v
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>>338505471
>>338505650
a girl(male) is still a girl
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>>338506356
its kind of disappointing imo
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