HAHAHAHAHAH
http://pastebin.com/7PTgEsP6
git gud
What site? Was it Polygon trying to damage control?
At least you were kind enough to post the pastebin.
>>338459606
original article here:
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/05/the-git-gud-mentality-is-why-people-dont-take-game.html
someone sounds mad he couldn't git gud
>>338459606
even worse, it's other sites damage controlling for polygon
>>338459474
>Taking games seriously.
Games shouldn't be taken seriously, period. It's entertainment, nothing more.
>>338459474
Is this because of the terrible ign player
You should have to be good enough to beat the game on normal to be allowed to review it. Anything less is playing the game as its developer didn't intend it and a review based on this play through would be objectively inaccurate, even in it's opinions.
>This kind of hostility towards “outsiders” is why so many think poorly of games and the people who play them. It’s the same attitude that inspired the so-called “GamerGate” controversy. All the stereotypes and clichés that anger and diminish “gamers” are reinforced by incidents like this. By reflexively acting out against those who they believe are encroaching on their private turf, these game fans make themselves look petty and mean-spirited and encourage the dismissive attitudes the general public tend to hold towards them and their hobby.
Apologize, /v/.
>This article highlights what's wrong with gaming journalism where the journalist is hardly a gamer. The Polygon gameplay was atrocious and made the game look clunky and horrible, which is completely wrong unto how it actually feels.
I bet you believe aiming is a social construct and must be torn down for the sake of equality. You believe people's merits should not be respected it it gets in the way of fun for others. IN A GAME LIKE DOOM WHICH IS HEAVILY SKILL BASED.
It doesn't even need saying that you don't have to be good at video games to have fun in them, what it does say is that if you're inept at playing a game you have no right to judge it or showcase it in a way that makes it unfaithful to the product.
Everyone has the right to play games, but if they lose they shouldn't blame the game for their own faults unless truly warranted. Polygon showcased gameplay footage in a bad light because of the player's ineptitude with the medium. I would not hire a carpenter to teach a science class. For the same reason I would not hire a person with minimal to non-existent game experience to showcase gameplay for something they're unsuited for.
>>338459474
>Expecting Anyone to take you seriously when you've never played baseball
Same Applies to vidya
>you'll never be so bad at video games you bleet like a lost lamb for all of the Internet to see
>We scared off the normies
Oh no...
>>338459635
>pastemagazine
Who?
>>338459697
it was polygon's arthur "virtual guns scare me" geis who had that atrocious gameplay video
he also reviewed it and gave it a n 8.5
>Polygon First 30 Mins of DOOM
>its actually the first 10 mins for anyone besides an absolute retard
Its not even get gud, its learn how to even approach 3d game mechanics for polygon
>>338459474
That's a long article. If they ignore people bitching it would actually stop. But the fact that so many articles are being written about the reaction to the polygon actually gives the criticism legitimacy. Fuckin idiots
>>338459697
I don't follow this internet drama stuff like you guys do, what did ign do now?
Why should people take games seriously? They're still largely a source of entertainment for children and teenagers.
Also
>Muh gamergate
I'll start taking games seriously when you stop blaming your problems on something else.
>>338459648
It's no suprise. That thing from 2 years ago proved that all the gaming outlets work together as a massive propaganda machine.
>PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE MY HOBBY
ok
If you take it seriously, you git gud.
If you don't, you don't.
That's fine and the way shit works. This argument is like someone saying "If you want to learn, do your homework" and a shitty kid saying he shouldn't have to to pass.
>>338459812
It's pastebin for online articles so you don't give clickbait sites ad revenue.
>>338459849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
>>338459474
bait article for a bait thread. nice (You)s OP.
>The person playing DOOM in Polygon’s video appears to struggle with the game at certain points,
>certain points
and Understatement of the Decade goes to!
>>338459606
Yes, but not on Polygon because all these guys are on the same mailing list, and they all ghost write for each other. It is not likely that Garret, or Johnny wrote their respective articles.
>>338459474
>it does what doom fans expect a doom to do
>neo/v/ taste confirmed to be polygon-tier
>>338459648
Well what do you expect? Journalists are all looking out for each other, and they realize that if one of their bretheren get their reputation trashes, they all get their reputation trashed. That's why they protect each other.
>>338459474
>http://pastebin.com/7PTgEsP6
>if gamers want their medium to be taken seriously as an art form and to be acepted by a wider community
that's what these chucklefucks don't understand, I don't want gaming to be seen as an art form. I don't want games to be taken seriously. I don't want games to be accepted by a wider community. I would be happy if games were still a niche hobby that required effort to have fun in. I don't give a single iota of a fuck about fucking casual cunts playing games. I would be happy to see them fuck off and leave me alone.
>>338459849
>drama
It's more like a comedy.
I don't want games taken seriously. I don't want whatever fucking walking simulators and visual novels about otherkin issues that your mate is putting into early access.
>>338459474
What an idiot, games aren't meant to be taken seriously.
>>338459913
>appears to struggle with the game
>can't even move the character and the camera at the same time
There's a pretty huge difference between people harassing a new player for being bad and people harassing someone who is apparently a VIDEO GAME EXPERT at being so bad that you'd think they've never held a controller before.
>>338459896
what do you guys think of the guy from forbes, erik kain?
I think he's a pretty good dude and seems level headed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkSilatGS3w
The only people who want games to be taken seriously are games journalist who wish they had jobs that mattered.
>>338459959
What these idiots don't understand is that if games were taken seriously they'd actually be less inclusive and much more uninviting. High art, and high fashion are both good examples of this.
>>338459896
Hilarious then sad, then hilarious again when they showed the guy from Nvidia playing. Fucking gold.
>And here's Dannika Patrick announcing for the Minnesota Wild. What do you mean she doesn't know what she's doing? It's that elitist attitude that keeps race car drivers out of hockey.
Perhaps videogames aren't taken seriously because the people that represent them (read: journalists) are utterly inept and don't have any interest in getting better despite the fact that playing videogames is their fucking job.
It's like if a sports commentator didn't know the rules to the game he was commenting on.
Not to mention the whole desire for videogames to be "taken seriously" is stupid. Taken seriously by who exactly? It feels like they just want movie industry-sempai to notice them.
>>338459474
Way to pull that GG shit out of nowhere only a few paragraphs in. Jesus fuck.
If I was deaf, would people respect my music reviews? If I was blind would people want to read my movie reviews? If I can't play games or learn how to play games, and won't bother learning controls should people take my reviews seriously?
It's fucking retarded how video games have to be the one medium that allows bullshit like this just because it has emotional meaning to some faggot who played Zelda when he was 9.
>>338459474
Still kicking.
>>338459896
what the fuck, is he playing with a steering wheel?
Reminds me of the "GAMERS ARE DEAD" articles from different publications were posted in the time span of one day.
I've been seeing lots of talk about skill in video games and journalists inability to grasp simple controls.
>>338459474
>people won't take games seriously
The only people who legitimately give a shit about this are the people who are ruining the fun for everyone else.
I can not believe there are people defending that video.
>>338459765
Sorry ;_;
There has never been a more fitting time where "git gud" applies than the time when Polygon made that Doom video.
Seriously... who the fuck plays a shooter that poorly? GIT GUD.
>>338460309
Games """"""""Journalist"""""""" have to stick up for each other
>>338459474
>weak bait
git gud
>>338459474
literally git gud
doom is easy as shit and i suck at vidya
Daily repost
>>338459896
I'm going to post this on every article from now on that I see when a vg journalist starts raging when they can't handle criticism over a subject they know nothing about.
>an outlet like Polygon isn’t only writing for the most serious and dedicated videogame players. Their audience includes anybody interested in games, from the most hardcore who spend hours a day on the hobby, to the less passionate fans who only play a handful of games a year. Their writers shouldn’t be expected to reflect the tastes or share the abilities of players who devote most of their leisure time to gaming
yes they fucking should. imagine a fucking film critic that only watched 3 blockbusters a year.
Wow, the author of OP's article sounds like a fag.
Anyone got the Polygon article about that guy who went to a Rock Band 4 press event and he loathed not only the game but all the people enjoying it.
Hell he spend maybe a sentence talking about the actual game saying shit like "Its just pushing buttons" and the spent the rest of the time complaining about his surroundings.
Quality video game journalism Polygon, don't forget the "How to turn on a PS4" article.
>"they say that somebody needs to “Git Gud” at a game, but what they’re really doing is trying to exclude players who don’t devote as much time to games as they do."
Yeah? They need to play the game more to git gud...
Awesome!! Gamergate got nothing on this!! Thats so 2014. I Cant wait for GITGUDGATE!! ggg'rs are the worst.
>it's okay to be bad at things and make no effort to improve.
This shit goes beyond casual, casuals just don't care about gitting good, this is an aware and active attempt to do badly and to keep doing badly.
>>338459474
people shouldn't take games so seriously
>there are retards who want people to take videogames seriously
Yes boy i cant wait for more censorship and banning games just because they hurt people feelings
>>338459474
when i saw the video i honestly assumed whoever was playing it was disabled
>>338460468
literally cant make this up
>>338460468
>people who don't know how to drive a car should be allowed to make reviews about them
Reminder as to why several competing websites are posting similar articles almost simultaneously.
>>338460565
it's because game 'journalists' don't play games
>>338459876
If you prove you know the material through avenues constructed to test one's proficiency on a subject(exams) then the homework, which is intended to help one learn the material, shouldn't be necessary to pass.
Homework was designed to cover information and solidify information in students outside of class due to time constraints but has morphed into an arbitrary point system.
In short, your analogy sucks.
>>338459896
Are they playing with just a keyboard or something
These articles are the longest, most ridiculous excuse for justifying why they as journalists suck at their job. They can more about the political message of the game than they do the gameplay. I wonder how many more articles will they shit out about this.
>>338460468
How is it even possible? there's fucking autoaim when using gamepad, isnt there?
literally how
Only people who can't git gud at video games would ever make an article like this
>>338460681
You have a very warped idea of how significant autoaim is mate.
games shouldnt be taken seriously because then it becomes an art then women get involved and ruin it for everyone
Can anyone tell me what happened with doom and what is this shit is all about. I just came from army and isn't up to date on anything. Hell, it was a surprise to me yesterday that DeS 3 is out
>>338460468
Someone needs to edit this and every shot he missed they need to edit in clips of people getting shot in movies.
Someone make it happen.
>>338460630
Nope. In the whole video, you can see DS4 button prompts.
>>338460176
I'm mostly upset that video games, being the only interactive multimedia form of expression, are so fiendishly lambasted by gaming journalists for their interactivity, and praised when they take strides to avoid being interactive. It's the same as a film critic crying online that a movie should be judged by music and story rather than the cinematography that pulls everything together in a meaningful manner. Or a music critic ignoring the instrumental elements in favor of the message of the lyrics and the cool album cover.
>>338460681
I don't think Doom has any but there's still no excuse for being this fucking bad
>>338460681
Console DOOM used the Halo method of magnatism for it's autoaim, it's not the snap-to like CoD uses.
It's a little less idiot proof since it only helps the player and doesn't do all the work for them and is also distance based where the closer you are the weaker the magnetism is
>>338460538
>>338460565
The job title of "journalist" is effectively a learning disability.
>polygon on full damage control
>they are crashing and burning
>blame gallantgators again
God bless us everyone for gamergate.
>>338459474
So weird these stories came out so close to each other.
Why should I want the normalfags to accept me and do the same things as me? If I wanted that I'd be a normalfag.
>>338459765
"Git gud" was no the mentality behind GG though, it was about shit/shady game journalism
>>338460772
possible retard played game using one arm tied behind his back to review the new doom. shitstorm followed. it's still not verified if a retard with one arm tied behind his back did review the game but the gameplay says otherwise
>>338459931
lol
>>338460772
doom is fine solid 7.5/10
polygon doing polygon things and all retards followed in their footsteps like rps/kotaku
>This kind of hostility towards “outsiders”
This is the problem right there. Someone who doesn't like games or the act of playing video games should not be reviewing video games. Likewise someone who has no interest in art/literature/movies/music should not be reviewing said mediums.
>>338459474
git gud
>>338460527
oh god gitgudgate
>>338460885
Jesus if you're going to do that shit couldn't you at least talk amongst yourselves to make sure you don't all use the same keyword so it's not so blatantly obvious?
>>338459849
>I don't follow this internet drama
>literally following the drama
Fuck off cunt.
>>338460885
Wow! What a coincidence! Almost like that certain event 2 years ago!
>>338460121
Neither of those have really "evolved".
Yes there are trends/fads but it's the same song and dance. Gaming has changed from a small innovative hobby to a cashgrab market.
>>338459652
Tell that to the guys making over a million doing esports.
I wonder what compels people who barely play games to blog about them for a living.
>>338460896
Thanks.
Why the fuck is it a big deal? Just point, laugh and walk away.
>>338460756
Autoaim is extremely significant, DOOM simply doesn't use it the same way every other FPS with aim down sights pinpoint accuracy does. You still need some modicum of skill to line a shit.
>>338460468
He is clearly drunk.
>>338460514
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview
Yeah it's a strange article as it boils down to "I don't like the game, I hate rock music and rhythm games, but the people here are having fun so it must be a good game"
I just don't understand, they couldn't find one single rhythm game fan to go?
It's the business practice of "do x amount of work to get paid x money regardless of quality or talent" that separates the mediocre companies from the good ones.
#gitgudgate should fucking trend on twitter. would be a barrel of laffs and gaffs lads
>>338459474
why are people whining about the ability for people to adapt to new situations? what ever happened to rising to the challenge? what ever happened to dealing with it?
these faggots need to git gud
>>338460756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL1_ht1EdAU nice try cocksucker
>>338459802
If you watch enough baseball you can hold a damn good conversation with those that have. The only thing you really cannot comment about is your stance at bat and the way people throw
>>338461042
They're making it a big deal since he was dumb enough to send it to print.
while this is truth, some games work on immersion, "skill " while others work on catering to your superiority complex(they basically Whisper in your ear how smart you are , all the while every fat fuck retard can finish the game on Ultra Hard).
Honestly, I forgot when was the last time played the game below Hardest difficulty(didnt just if it would mean that enemies become bullet sponges and ruin immersion )
Yes games probably must be accessible to everyone because its PC thing to do , but then you
neglect and leaving out a large group of people who want a little of the actual resistance of the game
We may all laugh at this now but what if gitgudgate leads to developers casualizing their games even more?
Something I've noticed more generally about video game reviews is that they're always the most surface-level, shallow praise and criticism imagineable.
Imagine if Roger Ebert's famous review of Ingmar Bergman's movie Persona just consisted of shit jokes and the phrase "I like it" over and over again. That's all video game reviews are.
>>338460943
i'm pretty sure chess player quite hostile to anyone who says that chess is memory game, same logic here.
It's true though. In a dark souls 3 thread I gave a list of complaints such as weapons not being correctly balanced, estus chugging can't be punished, the input lag, the shit
netcode and all the Miyazaki cocksuckers can say is git gud.
You wont get taken seriously if you suck at sports.
You wont get taken seriously if you cant read good literature.
You wont get taken seriously if you don't have a certain level of proficiency on pretty much anything.
Not all games have to be challenging but those who are will obviously create elitism in the community just like almost any other community. Honestly these SJW game journos are the most entitled cry babies in our generation.
>>338460943
>let's make this an argument about the right to critique so everyone ignores our complete lack of quality control
-Polygon
This is some underhanded shilling if I've ever seen it.
>>338460881
It's pretty much the same shit gaming magazines went through - sites are becoming irrelevant when it's much more profitable for publishers cost-wise to give early copies to youtubers who are reaching many more people with their videos. Only reason sites are still relevant is for interviews and "exclusive content" which is also moving more and more to direct QA sessions.
>>338459474We just had this thread but
I'd say the people thinking like the "writer" are the ones who take games the MOST seriously.
I've never been more tempted to buy a full price game before.
Is there much replayability?
>>338461042
polygon went full damage control and said you dont need to be good at video games to review them even though the guy reviewing it was possible retarded and might have never touched a video game in his life until that point.
>>338460895
But all these articles coming out at the same time, attacking the people who read their shit...
I mean, this is literally the corruption in gaming journalism GG was talking about. All of the traditional gaming outlets, with maybe the exception of Gamespot or IGN, will toe the party line. There's only one opinion, and if you don't like it, apparently you're a shitlord.
>>338459871
>largely a source of entertainment of children and teenagers
http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/29/gaming-advocacy-group-the-average-gamer-is-31-and-most-play-on-a-console/
Nah m8, unless you are playing nintendo
>>338461186
fukken this famalamadingdong
>>338460468
>>338459474
Film and music have 2deep4u so I think it's appropriate for art forms to have an elitist section/acquired taste section.
>>338459474
You don't have to be good at games to enjoy them. I enjoy rts' despite being the worst in the world at them.
But you do need to be good at them if you are going to judge and review them, especially if you are being paid to do so. ESPECIALLY if it will be an attribute of an aggregated site.
>>338461148
>lmao solved game just memorize every opening and you're set
It's those Goobergators hurting my feelings by saying I'm bad at video games again. Why haven't the police or the government done anything to stop them yet?
>>338460681
Whats a controller?Is that like an ipad?
>>338461160
The souls fanbase is just cancerous in general since it was ported to steam. This is about reviewers that cant even grasp basic gameplay.
>>338459765
>This kind of hostility towards “outsiders” is why so many think poorly of games and the people who play them.
No one thinks poorly of film and music despite having the same elitist elements. I mean tell a music critic that you think Captain Beefheart is shit and you'll get 3deep5u thrown in your face.
>Hard games aren't for everyone
What about all the fucking nintendo games that have come out recently, they're casual and enjoyable. Only reason these faggots don't want to play them is because those games don't fit into 'gaymer culture' so they want to change harder games.
Fuck em
>>338461302
Jesus fuck.
>>338460885
Deja vu; aka the industry that never learns anything.
>>338461302
This is why developers hold your hand through the entire game.
>>338460943
>Someone who doesn't like games or the act of playing video games should not be reviewing video games.
Nah, problem is people are equating "being critical" of something as "being a hater". It's not like any of these sites have the balls to call out a bad game unless they're riding popularity bandwagon considering they're basically just another marketing branch at this point.
>>338459474
Point well made tbqh familia. Hive mind is awful for any community. With that being said I expect a review for a shooter to from a competent player, however sometimes hardcore shooter players aren't well endowed with mechanical skills, but knowledgable of the genre. Where do we draw the line here?
>One of the most anticipiated shooters of 2016
>People are hungry for footage about game
>Make somebody who knows fuckall about shooters make gameplay video for it
>This makes the game look like fucking shit
>Somehow this is supposed to be okay
Is Polygon full of fucking idiots, or are they all just inept at games and figured it was better to have something out?
>>338461363
>you think Captain Beefheart is shit
Faggot!
>>338459896
>>338461143
When the score is defined by how much the publisher paid you there is little incentive to attempt a deep criticism.
Also games tend to be far longer than movies, and an in depth criticism of some aspects is less practical as a result.
>>338461254
>Polygon and at least 10 other sites going full damage control
Fixed; its literally the same mailing list from 2 years ago.
>>338461449
>Implying I don't think Beefheart's vocals are GOAT
m8...
>>338459765
>Git gud inspired GamerGate
If there's a single good thing to come out of GG, it's that it's now very easy to spot retards.
>>338459474
Yeah, this place is full of children so desperate for validation yet wholly incapable of doing the usual methods (job, gf, social life) that they try to insist games fit only their criteria and even develop a narrative that "normies" have invaded.
/v/ has literally become just as bad as SJWs at trying to hog the market. It's one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
Instead of titling the video "The First 30 Minutes of Doom" they could have titled it "A Total Noob Plays Doom" and avoided the whole thing with that one fix.
>>338461302
>Equal parts taunt and heckle, “Git Gud” is a joke directed at players doing poorly in online games, but a joke with a pointed edge: if you don’t get better at games, they’re saying, we’ll stop playing with you. That you don’t belong here. Those people who are mad about the DOOM video are saying that anybody who hasn’t put in the hours necessary to become as great at shooters as they are should be ignored. That their opinions are meaningless and that their presence hurts the game for the “serious” players. That “Git Gud” mentality is one part of a larger effort by “gamers” to keep games as their own private sanctuary from the wider world, open only to those who are as passionate about games as they are, and only if they’re passionate about the same games as they are.'
Amen to that. Casuals fuck off.
>>338459474
I'm honestly surprised youth and junior ministry groups haven't started saying "git god" since it's such a persuasive argument.
>>338460881
Isn't dead for like the 8th time though. I swear it's like all those old Jason and Freddy Kreugar movies.
>>338461387
>why the vitriol of the gaming internet is a sign the medium is growing up
Isn't his whole argument the complete opposite?
>>338459815
"Virtual Guns Scare Me" was Ben Cuckera. Any proof that the gameplay recorded is his?
>>338459474
>HAHAHAHAHA
Fuck off and die.
>>338461427
>sometimes hardcore shooter players aren't well endowed with mechanical skills
>>338460885
seems like they went to /v/ to ask for dark souls tips
>>338461160
That's not the argument the article was making.
>>338461254
>polygon being retarded
I guess nothing changed in two years. Let me guess, the retard played it on a console as well.
>>338461387
because non-gamers will totally buy video games. which is something pro-sjw developers are figuring out when their shitty games have no audience at launch.
>>338461064
I have very limited experience in freelance journalism, not in games but in flyfishing. It absolutely blows my mind that this article was ever published. I wouldn't even let a place that published something like this in the past publish anything with my name on it. Is there just no accountability or integrity in these companies?
If I wrote an article for one of the little publications I've written for and said that while other people were fishing I stayed back and talked to their fishermen's friends about politics in the Philippines and that my thoughts on the stream were that the fishermen looked like they were having fun, I would have been laughed at to my face.
>>338461394
I think games would improve significantly if people that like games start reviewing them. Developers see through journalist eyes, they can't hear 8m people.
>>338461302
>>338460468
I don't understand
Despite how fucking shit we think console players are, the average one is better than this
How fucking bad do you have to be
Man I really grow tired of these fucking journalists, /v/.
>>338460468
>>338461302
I could play with a trackball from 1997-8 and do better than that.
I wish I get paid playing video games like shit and spouting nonsensical articles
>>338459804
>normies
>...
Piss off, newfag.
>>338461387
>Joseph Bernstein
>>338461261
"[shilling for a friend]"
"Could you disclose that you're friends with this person?"
"What are you, some kind of sexist?"
>>338459896
how do people like this get hired?
>>338460885
reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA
rev up those tinfoil hats because this one is real.
>>338461493
Or, you know, people want some standard of quality in the industry.
>>338461387
>Buzzfeed
>Respected journalism
Literally kek'd my pants
>>338461302
...did he forget how to pick items up?
Games are supposed to be fun, things of leisure of course they're not gonna be taken seriously
>>338461613
>>338461387
ITS ONLY A COINCIDENCE BRO
>>338461576
>flyfishing
neat
They're right, you know
All you toxic nerdy children wanna do is watch other people play games and bully them at how they're playing.
Just go play the games yourself and shut the fuck up
>>338461637
Probably a girl or a Muslim, or both.
>>338461302
We need a plague to kill 75% of the population. This wemb convinced me of that
Someone who only watches the newest marvel movie and adam sandler shitfest would get completely shat on for trying to review a serious art house film. Why is it not allowed to make fun of some retard that only plays pretentious walking simulators and sometimes candy crush when on the toilet trying to play an actual game?
>game journalists so butthurt over a meme that they're organizing a series of articles to talk about how they're not bothered by it and why they're so mature and grown-up and gamers are dumb babies.
>>338461681
NO U U GOOGOO GAAGAA MANBABY
GAMES IS ABOUT MY PLIGHT IN MORDERN CIS-MALE DOMINATED SOCIETY N ART N SHIEET
>>338461427
You cannot be knowledgeable about something without experiencing it to some degree. I follow Formula One racing, and feel relatively knowledgeable about it compared to a layman. I should not be allowed to review the performance of a car if I crash it half way into my first lap.
>>338461681
>things of leisure
music, literature(science excluded), films, cricket = things of leisure
>>338459474
didn't we already have this thread
>>338461717
Here's the (You) you were looking for
>>338461302
>>338460468
>>338461647
>he can't move and shoot at the same time
This is literally someone raised on cover TPS.
>>338460885
RPS article does have point, you don't have to be good at games to enjoy them. But if you're going to put your skills out on display, you have to be good or at least decent to be taken seriously.
If you entered a painting competion with water-color scribble would you really be surprised if people told you to get better before bothering again?
>>338461394
I will repeat this point until the sun turns into a brown dwarf: games dont have to cater to EVERY single demographic. Games can exist in a niche.
AAA devs are beginning to warm up to that idea. Indie devs have exploited niches before but a few seem to want to leave for greener pastures, only to find brown and barren fields.
I can't imagine how insufferable the gamesblogger Slack team chat must be. All of them jerking themselves over how little they cover the games and how quickly they can bang out articles before rushing off to buy bespoke artisinal cheeses.
>>338461302
not only did he try to shoot the medpack, he missed
missed a fucking stationary medpack while standing next to it
>>338459765
This nigga needs to ease up on the quotation marks and the ignorance.
I agree honestly.
The whole 'Git Gud' thing is occasionally funny if a friend is having a hard time with a game and you want to give them shit, but people who unironically say it to people who are looking for help are terrible.
It's not funny or creative, and it just makes the person looking for help annoyed. You would be doing better by not saying anything at all.
>>338461512
Holy shit. That whole paragraph is one long projection.
>>338461779
>cricket
>taken seriously
drinking this early in the day can't be good for you britbong
>>338461186
Exactly, that's why a lot of sports commentators were former players. Their opinion matters more.
hostile communities are the best communities. Everybody treats you like shit until you git gud and then you become bros.
Honestly this is just an extension of sjw socialist equality bullshit train of thought that wants to pretend hierarchies dont exist and everybody is equal.
BREAKING NEWS!
video games "journalists" suck each other's assholes with pandering articles that simultaneously further estrange their actual audience and players of video games in general!
what a shock.
>>338461589
>I think games would improve significantly if people that like games start reviewing them.
No, because then you have immediate positive bias towards the game. Games should be reviewed by COMPETENT people. They don't need to be fans of the specific game they're reviewing.
>>338461873
GIT GUD
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>>338461881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf0iy6cgRE4
>>338461902
reminder that this is on the lowest possible difficulty
>>338461873
That's not what the article is talking about.
Git Gud is dead. Git Gud doesn't have to be your audience.
I was going to make a joke about not needing to be good at making music to be a musician, but then I remembered that Harsh Noise exists.
>>338461902
>>338460468
Maybe he's just really bad at aiming with controller.
>>338460468
wait is that the doom polygon review or something?
>>338461873
But people aren't looking for help most of the time. They're just whining. If someone was having trouble with the timed missions and Xcom 2 and made a post asking how to deal with them better, people would(well some people) would offer help and advice.
But if they just make a posting saying it's too hard or stupid, then the only thing to say is git gud, because they should git fucking gud.
>>338461881
The only reason South Asia isn't a massive crater in the ground is because of cricket. So it certainly is serious.
>>338459765
Games and sports have a long ass tradition of engendering competitiveness among their fans. This is not fucking new. I don't mind video games being a broad enough medium to support "experiences" along with more traditional challenge based models. You'd think the ideal which all sides should aspire for is one where those who desire challenge can enjoy their style of game without the other side interjecting, and those who enjoy more casual styled interactive narratives can without the other side raining on their parade either.
This hostility is a bad thing, but it isn't without warrant. Currently for numerous reasons this industry seems only capable of catering to one audience at a time and it is a very real threat for one audience to be completely alienated for years on end when a change comes about catering to the other.
I don't know if there ever will be a solution but surely we all have to wake up eventually and stop drawing lines in the sand and squawking, right?
>>338461902
i bet he was expecting some kind of autoregeneration
>>338461717
didn't really think you deserved it but here's a (You)
Can you guys imagine watching shows on TV where people tried to review shit they weren't accustomed to or doing things that they're not used to?
>Hi I'm Bare Grills and today I'm going to show you how to survive in a post apocalyptic world
>rest of the show is just him drinking his piss
>>338461954
You see? This is what I'm talking about. Literally no imagination at all.
>>338461943
So you're saying movies shouldn't be reviewed by people who enjoy movies?
You can not be a critic if you do not enjoy the medium, your opinion has absolutely no merit to it if you try.
>>338461648
What the FUCK
I expect a video game reviewer to have spent enough time learning video game mechanics in order to review a game that they have developed some form of skill.
Its why I wouldnt watch a movie based on the opinion of a middle aged housewife. A professional critic would have some appreciation of deeper film mechanics.
>>338461803
> games dont have to cater to EVERY single demographic
yeah but politics tend force itself into developing vidya and twist this statement into something very ridiculous
if you dont cater to that other demographic that just means you hate that other demographic
youre sexist or whatever the fuck buzzword
>>338461943
I meant in general, not particular game.
>>338461302
This man have a job and i don't
;__;
>>338459652
I can make folding laundry into a competition. Competition is in blood even after I fuckef myself playing sports.
![[Godspeed You! Black Emperor plays in the background].gif](https://i.imgur.com/5GVsQN0.gif "[Godspeed You! Black Emperor plays in the background].gif")
>>338461753
See, the thing is that these people think the walking simulators are the "actual games" you speak of instead of things like Doom and the new DOOM and pretty much any game with any kind of difficulty or learning curve to it.
These are people that stop at Citizen Kane and think they know everything about cinema, these are people that play Dear Esther and think that's the epitome of game design. These people are retards. Ignorant retards that have no taste but think they're the objective truthsayers of what is good and what isn't. The worst part of all of this is that their voices are the ones that are heard, and they're in-part cause of why this hobby is being absolutely ruined and pandered to by people that don't actually appreciate the medium for what it is - a fucking source of entertainment. They insist that games have to be deep, and they can be, but they still have to be video games. What they want is to make a novel for film and try to just have audio and no visual feedback for audiences.
Doom is filtering out shitters now?
>>338462017
then why play with a controller? the gameplay is from the PC version, they choose to use controller
>>338460037
Generally fairly good vidya content. I wish he would reviewing shit like GoT and capeshit episode at a time and make more vidya content.
OH SHIT /v/ WE GOT REKT
WAT DO?
>>338461648
Plagiarism is real.
>>338462078
Why are there so many images of Chris laughing
>>338459474
>People are telling me to git gud?!
>Damn you GAMERGAAAATE!!!
>>338462230
git gud
>>338459829
i havent been browsing /v/ much lately and i never go to gaming review sites. Someone tell me whats the deal with this?
Did they do a shitty job with a review then get called out so got overly defensive?
>>338461656
Fuck I've got more from that shitshow
http://archive.today/l1kTW Leigh Alexander Gamasutra Aug 28, 10:00am
http://archive.today/rkvO8 Chris Plante Polygon Aug 28, 1:21pm
https://archive.today/ZyLdw Casey Johnson Ars Technica Aug 28, 5:00pm
http://archive.today/2t93l Devin Wilson Gamasutra Aug 28, 7:57 pm
https://archive.today/ht088 Luke Plunkett Kotaku Aug 28, 8:00pm
http://archive.today/9NxHy Arthur Chu The Daily Beast Aug 28, time unknown
https://archive.today/L4n6p Mike Pearl Vice Aug 29, time unknown
Eurogamer https://archive.today/CTpxW Dan Whitehead Saturday, 30 August 2014
Destructoid Blog https://archive.today/tIS6L Fenriff 12:09 PM on 08.28.2014
Gamespot https://archive.today/GWHD7 Emanuel Maiberg
The Week https://archive.today/bnWvI
The Guardian https://archive.today/DGj1S Jenn Frank Monday 1 September 2014
Destructoid https://archive.today/KXpV4 https://archive.today/VFYOb Jonathan Holmes 7:30 PM 08.31.2014
Rock, Paper, Shotgun https://archive.today/RXjWz Graham Smith September 1st, 2014 at 7:00 pm
THE INDEPENDENT https://archive.today/c6svO TOM MENDELSOHN Friday 5 September 2014
Vox https://archive.today/z4i22 Todd VanDerWerff September 6, 2014, 2:45 p.m. ET
Gamasutra https://archive.today/vT7vp Greg Costikyan on 09/07/14 12:55:00 am
Examiner https://archive.today/YRH03 Leo Reyna September 6, 2014
The New Yorker https://archive.today/nb14y SIMON PARKIN
Wired https://archive.today/LTFr9 10 SEPTEMBER 14 CASEY JOHNSTON
>>338462094
Games are not movies, anon. This is kinda important as far as distinctions go and you can't simplify it.
>>338462171
wait, really? because ps4 runs at 1080p 60fps
>>338462171
Maybe they still owe something to Microsoft for that half-a-million documentary they were paid for, and are not using XBone controllers for everything to display their superiority.
I'm not the best FPS player and I thought Nightmare difficulty was fairly forgiving
>>338461251
dont, just.... dont...
there is no way youll end up stisfied
>>338459941
>if one of their bretheren get their reputation trashes, they all get their reputation trashed.
That ship has sailed a long time ago. Their reputation was trashed the moment everyone realized that they're nothing more than glorified shills with pseudo-degrees.
>>338461821
>how do we make sure people who are newer to games don't miss things like ammo and medpacks
well the game is literally color pallete MARS RED so lets make them blue so they stick out.
>Good start but remember this isn't just for the skilled, like gaming journalists, its for people who just play for fun too.
How about they glow bright blue, impossible to miss and since they're totally immoble they won't threaten or startle
>perfect but don't let them explode and damage you when you shoot them.
why would anyon-
>Polygon's first 30 minutes of D44M!
>show an ignorance and poor understanding of music
>get laughed at by music buffs
>show an ignorance and poor understanding of literature
>get laughed at by literati
>show an ignorance and poor understand of film
>get laughed at by film buffs
Why should this also not apply to video games?
>>338462249
His laugh is fucking addicting.
>>338461902
This solidifies that the retard playing it is not using a mouse and keyboard at the same time, and considering how fucking easy it is to move and aim even with an inferior controller they are probably playing with only the keyboard.
>>338462017
That doesn't explain the janky movement and aiming though, it's literally just 2 sticks to move so how could you be THAT bad at it with a controller?
If they managed to at least aim and move poorly then playing with a controller would be more believable, but they can't even do that apparently.
>>338462149
Citizen Kane was also only originally praised for it's legit impressive cinematography and it's good pacing.
It wasn't until modern times that people started to cum over the writing, music and shit
>>338461717
>Play the games
>I'm good at it.
>"Grow up you manchildren"
>>338462249
Because he laughs with such genuine energy its irresistable.
>>338462351
silly anon it's because games aren't art-ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit nigga they also said video games are art. FUUUUUUUCK!
>>338462405
That's exactly my point, anon.
>reading american media
kek
use european media you fools
What the fuck is it with the sudden flood of articles about git gud?
>>338462292
It applies globally to any critic. If you don't have some kind of interest in the thing you're critiquing your opinion matters as much as a toddler's.
Reviewing is reviewing, there is no destinction. I except a literature reviewer to have knowledge about various literature and the ability to fucking read and comprehend it. Just like I expect a game reviewer to be able to finish a game.
I'll tell you guys how I feel about Doom when I can play it on my PC without forking out 60 bucks.
>>338461251
depends ability to digest shooters
have you play a huge log of shooters during your lifetime?
if no then maybe youll like it if youre not sick of the genre yet
>>338459474
>film, literature, art, or food critic displays utter incompetence regarding the fundamentals of their medium
>doesn't get taken seriously
>game """"""critic"""""" displays utter incompetence regarding the fundamentals of their medium
>"UM WOW you guys need to lay off with this "git gud" mentality this is exactly why games aren't respected"
kill me
>>338462470
one link to defeat your argument
>theguardian.com/uk
>>338462281
polygon (famously shit game news site) makes video showing first 30 minutes of new game
said video is made by someone who presumably has never played an action-oriented videogame before and is shit at the game
people make fun of this and make fun of polygon for being run by people who don't play games
journalists make damage control articles about how "videogames are hard pls stop bullying" and "gamers are evil for expecting us to be good at games"
