What can we expect in the Dark Souls 3 expansions?
>>338391268
New content.
>>338391268
Everything that they cut out of the main game, just like Dark Souls 1.
if its on the level of dark souls 2 DLC I think we can be excited
hoping some fancy shit like the bone fists or puzzle sword
I'm 100% sure that we'll see Londor.I'd also love to have a "trick weapon" as a nod to Bloodborne, that'd be pretty neat
POISE
All i hope is that they include some really memorable amd challenging bosses, amd so far From has a good history of dking just that, so I think ill be satisfied by whatever they make.
>>338391709
Dark Souls 2 DLC was complete shit
Hopefully is on Artorias of the Abyss and Old Hunters level
>>338392162
Go suck memezaki's dick
He wishes he had the creativity to make half of the original and fun content that DaS2 DLC had
>>338392162
AotA had good bosses and NPCs, but the world itself felt tiny and the enemies were a let down.
Dark Souls 2 DLCs had good level design but little else.
Old Hunters had great bosses and level design, probably one of the best.
>>338392162
I understand its the norm to hate on DaS2, but the DLC wasn't half bad
>>338391765
>soul of cinders weapon wasnt a trick weapon we could use
wasted potential.
>>338392493
Wait a second. You thought Eleum Loyce was fun? Brume Tower was dope but the other two were pretty meh.
>>338392715
At least Eleum Loyce had that good old looping to itself and opening shortcuts level design that was missing from the DS 2 main game.
>>338392493
Dark Souls 2 DLC was a step up from the main game but it still had all the problems the main game had
>>338392652
Ya that was really disappointing.
>>338391268
Hopefully originality, good bossfights, something new in terms of areas or bossfights, good level design and more armors
Because the main game lacked all of that
>>338392162
DS2 DLC was all cut content from the original game. Watch the original CGI reveal trailer, and you'll see a few scenes from areas in the DLCs.
>>338391709
You mean if it's better than DS3 main game?
Because DS2 really isn't that good and most of the bosses and level designs are pretty bad.
It's better than the main game for the most part, but that doesn't make it great
>>338391765
>I'm 100% sure that we'll see Londor.
And I'm 100% sure Londor is New Londo.
>>338391268
Hopefully Poise
I'm also really fucking hoping that they don't release one tiny DLC this year, and then release the other two next year without including them in the "season pass"
>>338391268
Lore wise, they're gonna jerk us around with no resolutions.
They want to keep open the possibility of sequels down the line. Sure, this is the "last dark souls". But 10 years from now can you really say there won't be a "return of dark souls" with some sequel that promises to tie up all the loose ends?
Serpents might show up. But we ain't killing those niggers.
>>338391502
Dark Souls 1 DLC was just some extra area in the past. It was isolated from the world. They never added any cut content.
BTW, since Dark SOuls 1 is still popular they should make a new Expansion pack for it.
The DLC will be about Ludleth of Courland.
>>338398682
We saw how Anor Londo had changed, so seeing how New Londo is doing would fit the game and potentially be really cool.
Though New Londo was such a pile of ruins in DS 1 that I don't feel that there is really good nostalgic architecture there like there was in Anor Londo.
So it won't be as good.
>>338391268
Maybe enemies won't be able to kill through walls anymore.
>>338399569
But the general idea is that Londor built upon the ruins to be something new and really cool, so we'd be visiting a familiar location with new elements. You know, kind of like what Dark Souls 3 did with almost every area.
>>338399954
git gud
>>338391268
I want to see the serpents nest, I don't have to fight them or anything, I just want to see where they reside. I'm still curious how exactly the world works in DaS, but knowing Miyazaki he avoid explain exactly that.
>>338398926
>Hopefully Poise
>>338397763
I was under the impression that the DS2 DLC was all made by the final team they had when they replaced multiple people mid-development which caused so many design clusterfucks in the main game, which explains why the DLC is so much better than it.
>>338400237
What is known and probably true about the serpents:
The serpents are one hydra creature. Each head is independent. Most wish to destroy the world and bring about the Age of Dark. Frampt befriended Gwyn and sided with the Age of Fire.
They live between Firelink and Kiln of the First Flame in some area. Bells of Awakening wake them when times are dire.
>>338398926
>Still give a shit about poise
>>338392162
The Dark Souls 2 DLCs were the best parts of the game though.
>>338399193
They will return to Dark Souls just like they ended up releasing Bloodborne on PC.
And the Dark Souls 1 DLC was cut content. At least the concept of Oolacile being near Dark Root Garden did.
please god just give me a desert area
>>338400237
I always imagined the serpents living at the absolute bottom of the world. Maybe they live inside Ash Lake, but I always felt like they lived deep down below. It also adds to their whole covetous and jealous nature, that dragons are so powerful and soar high above and the serpents are jealous assholes who only inhabit the bottom of the world. That's how they can slither to all sorts of placers and some out of holes or shadows or whatever.
>>338400729
>The serpents are one hydra creature.
Source on this? It'd be very interesting.
>>338400957
>Source on this? It'd be very interesting.
Speculation. But it seems pretty obvious. We never see their bodies or tails. They all look the same. It's most likely they're actually a Hydra rather than multiple serpents. They were just called serpents because they just thought they were snakes.
>>338400397
>>338400736
Classic Fromdrone stockholm syndrome at work, lads.
>devs remove an important mechanic from the past two games in the series
>lack of said mechanic causes issues in several things from build variety and viability to armor being next to useless
>Fromdrones not only defend it but shit on anyone who wants it back
Miyazaki was a mistake.
Doomguy crossover
>>338401220
Hitting through walls is a feature!
>>338400957
>Maybe they live inside Ash Lake
I always had this suspicion too. It's part why I want to see their home. If the world resides on the trees, what do the trees reside on? What's in the ash lake? Is it another world entirely? Is that where the serpents live? Is there a whole race of them down there? Stuff like that drives me nuts.
>>338399193
>They never added any cut content
Sanctuary Guardian was cut from the final game, if I recall correctly
>Profaned Flame explained
>Pilgrim Butterflies
>The Deep
>Gertrude and the Angels
>Some more PONTIFF FUCKING SULYVAHN
>>338401220
>Important mechanic
>Several issues about variety and viability to armors
I don't care if there no more havel monster with infinite poise is good for me
I want more unexpected shit like that white phantom asshole in Eleum Loyce
>>338391268
DLC 1:
The origin of the profaned capital, the profaned flame, Yhorm's backstory, the fire from the sky, early Irrathyl, and finally Sullyvhan's discovery of the place and his rise to pontiff/curse of the outrighder knights.
DLC 2:
Londor and it's history with Kaathe, and if I had to guess, Lothric and it's history with Frampt. Getrude, Ocelotte, and maybe even Aldia.
>>338401713
You know what balance is? Because From doesn't
If they knew what balance is they'd make every weapon and armor viable with the right amount of poise and other stats
There's a middleground between getting stunned by every weapon and being Havel the Rock in person
>>338401564
Pontiff is shit
Stop caring about the fucker
>>338402143
Pontiff is the ultimate mastermind. For fuck's sake, he TRICKED the GOD OF ILLUSIONS.
He's associated with the Profaned Capital, the deep, the church of the deep, lothric, irrathyl... the list goes on.
PONTIFF IS MY WAIFU
>>338401546
Yeah, plus the fact that Ash Lake has a hydra in DS1 lends credence to both that theory and the one that serpents are hydras.
>>338402026
>Balance
is balance when you get stunlocked forever on dark souls?
Is balance when you get one shotted cause that havel monster have a weapon with over 600 ar and lagtab you?
If that the balance you and and the comunitty want then go and play dark souls 1 instead
>>338402143
Why do you say he's shit? Just curious.
>>338402614
Did i say that? No i didn't i said that From doesn't know how to balance shit in non of their games
>>338391268
>DLC = expansions
top cuck lol
>>338391765
>adding a single trick weapon to the game that has more depth than all the rest
>good
what I want to see
>DS2 DLC.
>you fight pursuers again, they might even fucking explain what/who they were and why they "pursued" you twice in the game
>fucking aldia
>seeing where the giants lived (the land of the giants, far in the north) and what vendick stole from them.d-don't bully plz. these are things I always wished to know/see.
I want mai saifu back.
>>338402536
I WANT TO BE SULYVAHN
>>338402465
>tricked the god of illusions
>didn't just take advantage of an old, weary, sick god from the era of the first flame
>>338402873
Honestly I agree, I wanted some closure on Aldia. also the pursuers were interesting bosses. Maybe The Forlorn returns as an invader
>first flame is almost out
>everyone in the world is undead
>all the gods are gone
>the world is literally falling apart and landmasses are shifting just to bring the lords of cinder closer together
>still refuse to link the fire because you want to hold on to a life in a shitty castle with a bunch of zombies on your doorstep
What the fuck did he have to lose?
Shulva is the single best level in all of the Souls games
Prove me wrong, you can't
Can someone give me a list of everything Sulyvahn has done?
>>338403702
>nothing wrong
That's it.
>>338402465
I think I'd like Pontiff Sully more if his boss fight was more interesting.
>>338403640
>>338403640
Undead Burg/ Parish still exists
Same goes for Boletaria
And Cainhurst
Read about the rapport pyromancy, looks pretty interesting, anyone tried it? Does it work on all non boss enemies?
Is it a projectile or something short ranged like combustion?
Some more info into the primordial serpents. More shit about the Deep (Abyss?).More DaS1 fanservice.
>>338404001
>More DaS1 fanservice.
God no. Enough is enough, it would be nice for 3 to do something original for once.
I know this sounds odd, but I want the following:
>calamity ring to unlock something super secret
>reversal ring to unlock something super secret
>something super secret to unlock oceiros's baby
>some super secret stuff to unlock when you go through levels under the dark sun
>a super secret way to save greirat on his third expedition
>>338403702
>corrupted the Outrider Knights, the Dancer and Vordt using his rings and their armor
>fed gywndolin and potentially other gods to Aldrich
>created Sulyvahns beasts that guard Irythyll
>made it impossible to enter Irythyll without the doll
>usurped whichever gods ruled Irythyll prior to himself
I'm definitely missing some more thougj
>>338403820
I know that the Burg is a good level but why it's always considered one of the best? it's just a mildly short good level and nothing else.
It's not really interesting, there's not a lot of explorable or secret stuff and it's pretty small and linear.
Not even half as good as Sen.
You know exactly what we need.
>>338404001
Serpents are fucking boring and there's nothing interesting about them.
>>338404236
It's connected so nicely and intricately that it blew most people's minds, as well as setting extremely high examples for the rest of the game and the series
>>338403792
I thought his boss fight was one of the most interesting in Dark Souls 3
>>338404161
>beating ng+7 with calamity ring gives you Dragonslayer Armour's set. Yhorm's set, and Pontiff's set.
I want something that deals with the Lothric in Firelink Shrine's present and some more backstory on Ludleth. It even gives them a good excuse to reuse assets.
If they totally gloss over the time fuckery, I am going to be mad.
>>338404293
HHROOOAAGH
>>338403943
my friend uses it. it's like a point and click kinda thing, but yeah works on pretty much everything not a boss
I want something big and closure to the series,but I have this strong feeling the DLC will be more new stuff and most questions will remain unanswered.
>>338403943
Try it on the winged knights on the roof, it's ranged
>>338404359
>as well as setting extremely high examples for the rest of the game and the series
Too bad the game Undead Burg is in, almost forgets of it's existence one third through the game. None of the other zones are as carefully created as Undead Burg in Dark Souls 1, especially the post Sen's Fortress levels.
A desert area.
The reversal ring is such a piece of shit. They could have done something with it. At least make it so that if you miss Karla, you can give it to the other Pyroboy so he could teach you the Izalith pyromancy.
>>338404657
Painted World says hello.
Best Souls area period.
>>338403792
He's one of my favorite souls borne bosses desu
Kind of like Fume Knight without the wonky hit boxes
Sully is also interesting because he's such a conscious dick; he never did things because he was tricked or because he's misguided. He feels like a real bad guy who garners no sympathy
>>338403640
sauce ?
>>338404790
Reversal, Calamity, and Skull ring are just there for flavor more than anything.
Reversal is filler for fags who like the other gender's animations, Calamity is for secret-hunting retards who will try EVERYTHING, and Skull ring is the same.
>>338391268
>>338403943
It's pretty lategame but in NG+ you can use it on pretty much anything and it'll clear the area for you. It isn't ranged or projectile it just kind of happens immediately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hPBCkhBzk
>>338404436
I liked the idea but the execution was just really boring. His standard moves are just basic swipes not too different from the knights outside and then when he summons his stand all it does is copy him a few seconds before he swings. That's all he's got really and it's just kind of boring especially compared to similar guys like the Twins, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, or Champion Gundyr or even the Abyss Watchers.
>>338404834
>He feels like a real bad guy
Is his end goal for doing the shit he does ever stated?
Sully strikes me as doing so much evil shit that he was probably trying to save the world by any means.
>>338404967
haha, good meme
+1 upboat for you, sir!
>>338391268
Am I the only one who finds the Kingdom of Carthus extremely interesting?
>warmongers and conquerors
>Wolnir and the Abyss
>huge emphasis on ferocity in battle and warrior culture
I can't remember but I read somewhere that Carthus on the surface is actually a desert? If so it'd be a great setting for DLC
>>338405113
It's not really revealed. But because of that I have no reason to believe he could be trying to save anything
What was the point of corrupting Vordt or the Dancer?
>>338402465
>GOD OF ILLUSIONS.
They are just "Lords". Not Gods. They are just powerful creatures.
>>338404926
I thought the skull ring was for passively 'taunting' a boss so that the other phantoms had free reign?
>>338403640
>Tower of Latria
>Painted World
>Brume Tower
>Cainhurst Castle
>Cathedral of the Deep
All better than Shulva
>>338391268
I would like to see more interactions that involve the Fire Keeper. In BB the Doll said several things however in my play though of DS3 the Fire Keeper said the same thing throughout until I gave her the eyes. Then I got just 1 more.
Also side question. I just recently finished the game and I want to start pvp for the first time. What is currently the top 3 strength build pvp weapons? The internet is such a clusterfuck of info and I can't make heads or tails. I know the
Fume great sword and the black knights great ax was nerfed so what is the next go to weapon?
I have no idea what I am doing an any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>338405470
Vordt was fat and the Dancer made him think lewd things
Obviously
>>338404350
>>338404001
A THIRD serpent shows up.
>>338404350
They're info dumps. The two serpents alone account for knowing what the hell is going on.
how come all bossfights are square arenas?
I still want an explanation for why there are several 'dead' but bleedable serpent men in the hallway right after Oceiros.
Also, anyone know if anything happens if you enter the Oceiros battle while transformed as a dragon?
>>338405567
The great club is pretty good. It has A scaling with heavy infusion.
>>338405671They're all just different heads of the same beast.
>>338405567
>using meta str weapons only
Protip, you stupid fucking sheep, they're ALL STILL GOOD.
Anything with hyperarmor fucking destroys. Fume great sword still has absurd range/hitboxes.
I'm not sure if curved GS's still combo into weapon arte, but anything with hyperarmor will put in work.
I need closure with the fucking Primordial Serpent. I've convinced myself, for no reason at all, that it has to be a Hydra.
>>338405269
I agree completely. Desert environments have never really been in a Souls game either so it would be a nice change of pace from the same old same old.
So who the fuck is Yorshka?
>>338405891
>you stupid fucking sheep
No need to be edgier than the weapons in question.
>>338405567
Fume UGS
Champion Halberd
Executioners GS
Yhorms Great Machete
Cathedral Knight GS
Morne's Great Hammer
Pretty good selection
>>338406126
Thank you. I will look into each of these.
>>338405963
Same. But meeting or killing them would bring real closure, and they want to have sequels for the game, even if it's in the far future. So we probably won't even meet them again.
>>338405470
They both seemed to have been repurposed as guard that could be dispatched by Sully at a moments notice. Probably with interest in keeping any Unkindled asshats away from Aldrich which seems to be the centerpiece of his plan. There's Vordt, the first outrider knight, the deacons, the beast on the bridge, the forcefield, the Irithyll knights, Sully himself, the Aldrich Faithfuls and silver knights standing between you and Aldrich, so there's no doubt he's protecting him.
Why Dancer was dispatched after Sully's death is kind of hard to explain though.
>>338405567
I hear a lot of people complaining about the Fire Keeper being boring but all of the level up waifus are boring. Even the Maiden in Black doesn't really do anything until the end nor does she have a large amount of interesting dialogue. The Doll just says a few vague things relating to how Gherman made her based on Maria. Emerald Herald was the one that was most involved but no one seems to really give a shit about her and even that was just showing up at plot important places and taking a plot dump on the player.
>>338403702
The Dancer
Possibly Gwyndolin before sacrificing him to the Hungry Caterpillar
>>338406237
She was dispatched before Pontiff died. You can fight her when you can fight Vordt.
>>338391268
Giantdad stuff
>>338402143
>stop liking stuff that i dont
you cant be more autistic
>>338406453
Lucky bastard
>>338391335
/thread
>>338406518
I know, but the intended way is to fight her after Aldrich.
The logic needs to work in both scenarios or it's just plain wrong. But maybe Sully wasn't the one in charge of dispatching guardians.
>>338406338
>The Doll just says a few vague things relating to how Gherman made her based on Maria.
And talks about the dream and reveals some of its nature.
And the messengers.
And reveals a connection exists between her and Maria and Gherman and Orphan.
And about moon presence.
And poses philosophical questions that heavily relate to both her and the game.
Oh, and she also was the first npc to react to gestures.
Doll is the best level up slut no doubt.
>>338405269
While a desert atmosphere would be new, I just hate desert areas in games and I don't think From could get it rightThat being said I didnt think they could get a mesoamerican area in a Souls game right either but Shulva city was great
>>338406237
She is there to stop you from reaching Lothric(The Prince) in which Pontiff ordered her to do so.
>>338406338
Maiden in Black is super cute. She has alternate places to be. Including the sitting on the stairs wiggling her feet.
>>338406041
If you want to meetGo to the Anor Londo bonfire, get in the Elevator walk the lower path, like if you were about to jump
>>338407121
I was expecting the Archdragon Peak to be a desert type of area when i have first seen the early screenshots of that place where there was a mosque-type of building.
>>338406990
He sent them out long before. The reason why they are on all fours is because of the rings Sulyvahn gave them.
>>338407324
He probably knows her location.He probably just wants to know her origins and backstory.
>>338391268
first one will be about getting the crown from DS2
second one will be about serpents
third one about aldia
>>338407613or not
>>338407148
>>338407494
The way they teleport in makes me picture Sully watching Unkindled ones through a crystal ball in Irithyll and commanding his deacons to send obstacles in the way of the hero like a cartoon villian.
>>338391268
O N I
N
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DLC dark souls in the east when?!
I really hope they add an arena back in. Loved that in the older games.
>>338391268
More rehash.
>>338406990
Just because you were intended to fight her after Sully, doesn't mean he didn't send her out before.
The Dancer seems to want to prevent people getting into Castle Lothric. So, she's going to wait there until someone tries before showing herself.
She'd probably been guarding there long before you arrived, but won't engage you until you have the means to enter the castle.
>>338406041
she isCUTE
>>338406078
So using top tier weapons is only bad when its dark sword and "bestoc?"
No one's jumping on his dick for being a meta tier whore, except for me, just because strength weapons are acceptable?
The guy should just use what he prefers, he's never going to be screwed unless its a whip or something.
>>338408082
You mean Ni-Oh?
>>338405527
Gwyndolin is a god.
It goes Lords>gods>kings>people like Artorias>everything else>the player character.
The lords are the people who found the flame. In their heyday, they were the strongest motherfuckers around. The gods are just really powerful entities, unfortunately we only meet one.
>>338408485
This is all pulled out of your ass.
Lords are anyone with a Lord Soul.
I want Twinblades and blue eye orb.
>>338408321
really? i thought she just looked really creepy...
>>338408635
The first wave of lords. Gwynn, Nito, and the Witch of Izalith. Seath got a chunk because he helped out. He was still really powerful though, seeing as he's a dragon. He's just an pushover in 1 because he went crazy. The 4 kings got chunks because Gwyn trusted them. Seath and 4K aren't lords, because they didn't find the souls.
Man I never realized how bad I was at dark souls until I took on the nameless king last night.
Took me close to 30 times of fighting him because I had low enough health to get one shot and no embers to correct that.
At the point where I could beat him and fought the lord of cinders immediately after it felt like I was fighting a normal mob type enemy.
I'm a fucking idiot though and forgot to buy nameless kings armor.
Oh well ): always NG+!
>>338408321
What if that's not a tail but a parasite feeding off of her?
>>338407261
So does literally every other level up slut
>>338408724
We're never getting a Blue Eye Orb
>>338409295
She's the original. The rest are pale imitations.
>>338409262
Nameless King was arguably the most difficult boss I've fought in this or any souls game. It took me well over 10 tries.
>>338409382
>She's the original. The rest are pale imitations
Selfless caregiver from king's field came first, and si did every aspect of the souls games.
>>338405891
>Protip, you stupid fucking sheep, they're ALL STILL GOOD.
I made an effort to slightly upgrade and try each weapon. Even with a balanced build, it's clear some weapons are hot garbage will others are overpowered. It's a shame, I really do like fun builds but you can't do a build if the weapon can only hit for a 1/10th of what a similarly leveled weapon can do. It makes the game unplayable and ultimately you feel like you're wasting your time.
I try to avoid meta weapons, I've been using that Gargoyle Flame Hammer because it's fucking awesome looking. Problem is it's just average, and it sucks when some weapons clearly completely outclass others and you secretly wish the fun weapons could be even half-viable.
>>338408323
Or maybe using tier weapons isn't bad at all and you shouldn't bad mouth someone for having an opinion? Some people want to play with the best they have to choose from. If you get the most enjoyment out of winning then wouldn't you want to do your best to optimize that chance?
Think of it like a game of Magic the Gathering.
>You want to play Legacy.
>You only have a standard deck.
>Everyone else is playing things like belcher, delver, miracles, show and tell, ect (I don't know what is good now. I haven't played legacy in years. these are just of the top of my head).
Do you think you are going to enjoy yourself if your goal is to win? Extreme example I know but still.
I didn't comment because of what you said but how you said it. Calling someone a sheep because they want information on a topic you don't agree with is kind of uncool.
>>338409591
Modern remakes of those games would be baller.
>60fps
>faster
>1-3 = updated but still simple graphics
>4 is just the original in HD
>>338409591
Are the King's Field games actually any good? How well do they emulate?
>>338410156
>Are the King's Field games actually any good?
"Interesting gaming curiosities"
They play super slow. Like you're under water.
>How well do they emulate?
Very well.
>>338409569
I have never had this hard of a time with a boss. I managed to get the bird form killed in under 30 seconds but fuck me I hated going into the fight and dealing with that shit over and over. I'm glad I didn't summon, but on the same end it would have saved me almost an hour of my life.
This smooth pimp daddy.
>>338409794
>some people want to play with the best they have to choose from
Which is why people will berate them for using them, people always jump on the opportunity to bag on estoc, dark sword, caestus.
Just fuck off if you can't deal with someone being rude, on /v/ of all places.
>>338409783
The only time you're going to feel your weapon is shitty is when against meta weapons in a 1v1 duel situation, or you're straight up using it wrong.
You can make any weapon work (with clear exceptions, like broken straight sword) in an invasion just fine.
Some spells like firestorm or spell hail are considered hot garbage but if you use it in a cramped location in an invasion they might be very effective.
>>338411108
A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE
>That upopenable green door in Anor Londo
Yeah, we are going to be rehashing more DaS1 lore.
>>338411267
The one to the right of the front gate?
>>338411127
Or I could poke fun at you for acting like pic related but with an edgy comment like calling them a sheep. 4chan is was founded upon making fun of one another especially for comments like yours.
Please tell me. How does someone wanting to play with the best the game has to offer affect you enough to get upset about it?
>>338410156
They're not exactly bad, but in the modern age there's not really a reason to play them with the souls games around. They are like a cheap attempt at making souls on really old hardware and if that interest you to see it might be worth playing for a few minutes or something. Otherwise I don't think anyone should play those games unless they have a form of asparagus.
r8 my fashion.
>>338411612
>why is following flavor of the month youtuber/streamer OP weapon meta blindly cancer?
>why is seeing the same four builds over and over again bad
I really dunno why you're acting like im such an anomaly.
Actually I do know.
>edgy
>image macro from 2008
fuck off reddit
>>338412275
>generic shit/10
>>338411267
That door could never be opened in Dark 1, I don't know why you would think we would ever get to open it.
r8 MY fashion
>>338411127
Not that I disagree, but there are absolutely a handful of weapons in Dark Souls 3 that are inferior to others for pvp combat (besides the broken srword), but I'm sure overtime they will equal out. The most disabling thing about the PVP is currently the Netcode though and I've played every souls game so don't give me that "It's always been bad" excuse. Yeah it has always been mediocre, but nothing to this extreme where hits do no damage or there is no animation at all for the attack.
>>338412590
>legion etiquette/10
Rate my fashion. My SL1 character.
>>338412836
best gesture desu
that and silent resolve
>>338412867
quiet resolve is good, but legion etiquette is for real neckbeards
>>338412954
why
>>338391335
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, anon.
>>338405963
Pretty suspect desu. In Dark Souls 1's Ash Lake you meet a hydra type enemy, and another under the forest for some reason. These don't seem like primordial serpents; not looking like something that could have become a dragon either. They're not snake-like enough. (Description of primordial serpent from covetous silver serpent ring).
When Frampt brings the Chosen Undead under Firelink Shrine, his head does not stay straight as if he has a body under him, instead his head is dangling upside down, as if his body is connected to a mass that is located above. The other head the player can access is in the abyss under Firelink Shrine too, at New Londo. So the serpents being one Greek mytho styled giant Hydra isn't at all far fetched.
In the Dark Lord ending of DaS1 the heads are all aligned left and right of the kiln and say the same thing together. Wouldn't be a stretch at all if they're all one being.
Imagine if plot twist was that the fire fades because the primordial serpent is stealing its power. Everything else that's happening in the world has been a manipulation of theirs. So in the end those who resisted the curse were the good guys and right all along, that is; the characters of Dark Souls 2, even the Manus fragments.
I can't ever imagine Fromsoft managing to create a living level, especially one that you can kill and lose access to forever, as the primordial serpents must be massive if they're a hydra.
The DLC will probably just brush the primordial serpents aside. Even considering OP's pic related and all.
I just want a happy ending with either Yuria, Karla, Irina or the Firekeeper.
>>338399193
Concept art for Artorias shipped with the vanilla version and models for both Kalameet and Sanctuary Guardian where in the vanilla game files.
>>338405963
The primordial serpent is a gigantic hydra that actually forms the core of the planet. This way it's heads can be anywhere at anytime.
>>338410942
Same here.
I'm going through summon-less, but NK almost made me slip.
>>338412984
Not him, Legion Etiquette implies "This is going to be a fucking breeze."
It's the faggot gesture and you make yourself look like a jackass if you don't totally stomp. And a total retard if you lose.
I am courteous to users and always wait until they break the "rules" of courtesy, which while not mandatory, are still important to some. But if you Legion Etiquette, I will fucking slam your face into the fucking ground.
And I usually do.
>>338412862
The skin color you could possibly be my estranged brother. I was going for a lawrence of arabia look more then UNG UNG though
>>338413450
Sounds like you got stomped by someone who used it and attributed their use of the gesture as a taunt.
Legion etiquette is literally just "let's duel". Anything else you get from it is projection.
>>338413223
>This way it's heads can be anywhere at anytime.
We've only seen two. One in Firelink, and one in New Londo. They are not that far apart.
Their body is likely above the the First Kiln.
> that actually forms the core of the planet.
I don't think they're actually really important. They may serve a being that is actuallly important though.
>>338412521
Why is playing to win cancer? Because you are not having fun? Other people like other things. The player base shouldn't comply to your visions of fun. Even if the game was constantly patched for balance people will always choose the best option because they have the most enjoyment out of winning.
But more importantly I will ask again. How does other peoples choices on how they wish to play a game affect you enough to get upset about it? If you don't like the pvp situation there is an offline option. Or you could try to break the curve by finding a better option. But then again if you did, everyone would start doing that.
Also, I don't save 4chan images on my pc. If I want to use an image I just google it. I don't see how my image affects the point I am making anyhow.
>>338411212
YOU, CONQUEROR OF ADVERSITIES
>>338405963
>>338413154
>the primordial serpents are an abyss hydra
Nice concept, but it just doesn't work.
Think of Frampt at firelink shrine. You get in his mouth, he retracts back in, then takes you vertically down and hangs upside down.
Its way too flexible to be a hydra. He's either an ABSURDLY flexible and long necked hydra, or he slithered down in a snake-like manner. Furthermore, Kaathe is not vertically connected to Frampt either, as far as I can tell. And when all the snakes appear in DaS1 dark end, it doesn't seem very hydra like
>>338391268
more lag and disappointing content.
>>338413723
>Being this foolish
I have NEVER been stomped by a Legion Etiquette retard, I get stomped by MANY people, but I have found the only people worse than me are fags who use Legion Etiquette. It's a mediocre gesture and you indicate a duel with any bow.
>>338401713
english please
>>338413450
To me I don't get that vibe, I hate the gesture because it's like something an edgy kid would do before a fight. Makes me feel the opponent takes themselves too seriously.
Out of all the bows, Legion Etiquette is the most 'psh nothing personnel' out of all of them. By My Sword is my preferred 'let's fight' gesture if we're not just going to have at it.
>>338413923
Hey man, it's fine to be a literal retard with a chip on your shoulder about a completely innocuous gesture. You don't have to try so hard to convince me you're better than "those people".
>>338404926
Calamity ring is for challenges.
>>338414198
>Literal artificial difficulty: the challenge
People... actually do that?
>>338413838
>image.png
Just using your post as a jumping point but when it comes to PVP I have no issue with aggressive invaders as long as they're not dicks and try to hit you when you're gesturing and what not. There's no rule book that you have to follow but it doesn't mean you HAVE to be a dick. Just make the game fun for you and the person you're invading.
>>338402873
>Put Pursuer Greatshield in the game
>Not the armor or the Pursuer Greatsword now that the game has Weapon Arts that would let you use some of his moves
>>338391709
Also this.
Dark Souls 2 DLC had a load of weapons that just did their own thing. With WA maybe this could be more pronounced.
Maybe they could add some viable fist weapons as well or weapons that aren't actually garbage in the offhand.
>>338391268
We kill imperfect dragons.
Hopefully.
>>338414093
Well all that is is an issue of translation. When most players gesture it's to say "Hey no hard feelings, we're playing a game so have fun" rather than people role playing as their characters. It's nothing worth hating because the other player has no ill will when they're doing it to you.
>>338414831
The only players that have used Legion Etiquette against me have been Hosts of gank squads.
Maybe we just invade different people
>>338413723
This
I hate it because I relate it to the abyss watcher who does that at the start if the fight and it looks like a "come at me bro" kind if thing, but that's just me. They probably ment to use it as a bow.
Less recycled content hopefully. Miyazaki is a hack.
>>338413838
Armor is trash in this game. Boom, everyone's playing fashion souls now, thanks Miyazaki for no poise.
A weapon is good, and you see it all the fucking time. Some guy points out a glitch or dumb tactic, and you see it all the fucking time.
They killed off armor, and gone are the days of heavy builds. But we still have weapon cancer.
Tell me, if you think using absurdly good weapons is fine, then what do you think of the removal of poise and the death of armor in general.
As you said, there should be nothing wrong with everyone in havel's or giantdads or smelters, they're playing to win.
>>338413450
this comment makes you sound like more of a jackass than using legion etiquette.
>>338414337
Yeah? There really isn't any "artifical difficulty", that is a meme. I have done SL1 runs in DaS1 and 2. Some people do more extreme thing.
>>338392162
Old Hunters > Crowns Trilogy > Artorias of the Abyss
>>338391268
In pontiffs boss room there is a really really big door that you cannot open to the right.
I'll bet a nickel that one of the DLC's has you going through that door in some way to access it.
>>338415369
Bloodborne also had a door to nowhere, so who knows.
>>338415369
Sulyvahn DLC?
>>338398926
There's only two DLC jackass, when will people learn.
>>338403640
research hall exists
>>338404293
That's dumb.
You're dumb.
I'll get this dark party started right
>>338414963
I have to agree with any opinion disgracing gank squads because they're living garbage. I learned to not get angry at pvp, but when you kill the gankers and the host starts summoning in more people and then disconnect their internet the moment before you kill them it surprises me so much that the game decides to be on these people sides. I feel like players who dc should get a week ban from summoning to teach them how to play the game properly
>>338408321
That thing is not cute , I kill it every new play through I do.
>>338415184
Eh, I can't prove I'm not a jackass so, yeah. I am a dick, but not a dickwraith if that makes any difference.
>Invaded in Dungeon
>Host is AFK with a Dark Sword, Caestus, and Havel's Chestpiece, nothing else on
>Keep using call over at him and tossing carvings
>Just kill him after 5 minutes of waiting cause it seems he left after grabbing the bonfire to go do something IRL
>>338415236
I understand that, but I mean, it's just "Beat the game on hard mode."
>1 less ring slot, which could be the make/break of some builds that use rings for supplementary stats
>All mobs do more damage overall and have more HP
>Oh and double damage taken
>Doesn't change gameplay at all
It's the textbook definition of artificial difficulty.
pvp in this game sucks mad balls. balancing issues aside, the netframe will always always leave Dark Souls as a shitty platform to have any competitive matches.
rolls are far too generous and the phantom misses just exacerbate the problem
healing with estus is quicker than swinging a sword to stop them, especially with the delayed hits
hosts can summon a clown car of phantoms. if I were the guy in charge I'd allow one summon per invader.
why even bother gitting gud in this climate, it doesn't even feel good to dismantle a gank. just feels like work.
>>338413852
Think of it this way, you have an actual account of how far Firelink is to Anor Londo and the drop to the Abyss. However you and I have no idea how deep the Kiln of the First Flame resides under Firelink Shrine.
What we do know is that we can see roots from the Kiln of the First Flame, when Frampt takes us there. In Dark Souls 1 the Arch Trees are a good metric to see how far deep we are in Lordran. The Great Hollow level for instance and how you can see Ash Lake from the Tomb of the Giants. In Blighttown, the Undead Burg and on its walls you can see the top of the trees.
In a sense we do have an idea of how big (or tall) the Primordial Serpent(s) might be.
Just as tall as an arch yet not tall enough to reach its roots, hence why Frampt has to be upside-down.
As for the primordial serpent's flexibility, the rings might see to that, pic related.
What if the Abyss was a hoax and that we're just landing on the Primordial Serpent's hide covered all in darkness? It makes no sense that there is a patch of blackness in between the kiln which is alight and located at the very bottom, and the overworld where even Izalith and Ash Lake have light.
Some speculation coming up:
The abyss hasn't been relevant at all so much that humanity looking for raw power in Dark Souls 3, seek the "Deep" now.
If right, so Saint Aldrich and Pontiff are actually good guys and are secretly badasses?
>Saint Aldrich eats poor weakened god Gwyndolyn.
>Become serpent-like creature.
>Has his own abyss-like effect but not quite the same, called the "Deep" now.
Primordial serpents eat Lordran gods -> Create abyss?
Also, Primordial Serpent statues in Lothric Castle. Gwynevere is said to have married into ruling family. Is MIA. Mmmmm. Delicious Lordran gods.
>>338402873
wasn't the land of the giants lordran and what he stole the lordvessel?
>>338415350
>Crowns Trilogy > Artorias of the Abyss
kys
>>338415538
>the Pontiff you fought was an illusion
>and the illusion of his illusion
how'd he get away with it? he had his bro Aldrich use the moon power, and despite what "he's weak because he's currently digesting Gwyndolin!" memers say, that's why Aldrich was piss weak. because he was holding up an illusion that strong shortly before you arrived in Anor Londo.
it all makes sense.
>Green Door in Anor Londo will lead to more nostalgia DLC
>Age of Dark Firelink Shrine door will do more age of dark exposition DLC
there you go bud
>>338415818
Aldrich's soul refers to the Age of Deep as an age of deep water. Likely very different to the Age of Dark.
>>338416070
>That Legion Etiquette
>>338392652
>>338394503
But the Firelink Greatsword is his weapon
>>338415763
I love well meaning dickwraiths
I invaded some dude in Farron forest, ran up to the first bonfire and saw they still had Anri and Horace next to the bonfire. then I see a meek looking host behind a shield poke out from behind some rocks. I just waved and black crystaled out, rather let them talk and explore the area than make a vertebrae shackle out of them.
>>338415818
>The abyss hasn't been relevant at all so much that humanity looking for raw power in Dark Souls 3, seek the "Deep" now.
I don't think that's true. Remember that the abyss watches have completely removed castles at the first signs of abyss taking hold, and were formed for the soul purpose of fighting abyss. We don't see very much of it, but it's certainly not irrelevant in 3.
As for aldrich and his gang, I'm just going to speculate and expand on what >>338416148
Aldrich, being one who sought not fire or darkness, instead dreamed of an age of deep, endless sea.Do you remember how the londomen stopped the abyss from spreading in Dark Souls 1?They flooded it.
>>338391268
>What can we expect in the Dark Souls 3 expansions?
This settlement.
>>338415131
>They killed off armor, and gone are the days of heavy builds. But we still have weapon cancer.
I think this is the real issue.
Weapons were always unbalanced in every game. Nothing has changed at all except which weapons are good this time around, and that changes game to game too.
Except now armor is meaningless. There is no poise, and the protection level is not significantly different to warrant investing in armor. Everyone has the same medium roll. Everyone lacks poise. Everyone takes the same damage. Poise and armor level in 1 and 2 could significantly change how someone fights with the same weapons. It made which weapons were 'good' in the meta sense not as clear too.
Now two people sharing a weapon might as well be the same build because the weapon is the only consideration left. Even magic isn't worth a damn anymore beyond buffing, but no buff in the game will change your playstyle either.
>>338416070
Sorry Mauldron
>>338416483
That's Boletaria.
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>>338416483
Those are trees
>>338415131
Your points are valid. Yes these issues have dumbed down the game. It also limits the amount of options one has in the game.
However none of that has to do with the argument of people choosing to play to win is a bad thing. The game could be 100 percent player based, all with the same sword, same gear, same stats. If people find it fun they will play and they will then in turn maximize that fun by winning.
The game could be as simple as one of those 4 colored sword images that pop on /v/ occasionally. I hope you know what I am talking about I can't seem to find an image. Even if every sword was deal 1 damage, 1 atk speed, 1 def. If a single sword was 1.00002 damage, 1 atk speed, and 1 def. A majority of people would take that, because winning is fun. People will never choose openly to do something harmful to themselves unless they get something out of it. Lets keep using the colored swords for example. You like the green sword even though the yellow sword is mathematically better, that is your choice. You are making the choice because you get more out of the color green than you do winning. This isn't the case for the majority of people. Even if DS3 had 0 armor impact or stat impact, if people still found the game in some way shape or form enough to keep playing even though it is much less than what they wanted or they are used to they will still choose the optimal choice unless they get something else out of it. This is not what you may find fun but who are you to say that it is wrong for others to find it as such? They are getting the most out of what they were given. They can keep fighting for getting a more intricate game but even if it was the most complex thing on the planet a majority of people will still choose to be optimal and there is nothing wrong with that.
I wanna go to the beach behind Aldrich's church.
Me completely giving up on ever doing a boss solo ever again, if the base game is any indication. Or maybe I'll level to 99 Vigor before I attempt the DLC.
>>338417398
Jesus christ I've done the game to NG+3 solo on every boss, minus the one time I summoned that great swamp guy to get Cornyx's set.
Come on son
>>338417398
What boss?
>>338417628
>not just killing CornyxI'm so sorry, senpai
>>338405758
the serpent men are the descendants of dragons, oceiros was doing crazy science experiments with dragon blood, put two and two together
>>338417139
I want to Kriempie Kriemhild.
>>338416148
I don't see how that changes everything.
When you create the age of Dark in any Dark Souls game by not linking the fire, the entire world is dark like the abyss. So the abyss does come to be. I guess I'm saying that in Pontiff and Aldrich's ways, they flood the world instead with low flood. I agree with what >>338416376 believes.
We actually get to see what an age of dark looks like in the Untended Graves in Dark Souls 3, where I belive Ludleth killed the firekeeper and thus Gundyr couldn't MMA kick and collect the lord souls himself, the poor guy. I assume Ludleth then felt guilty and Cinder'd himself to restore a short age of light (with no sun) and that's where we start off the game, shortly after.
I know the Age of Dark is supposed to be bad but the candles lighting everything reminded me too much of Demons Souls and I just fell in love with the design.
I'm guilty of believing that the First Firekeeper described in the eyes of a firekeeper item is the maiden in black of Demons Souls, because the End of Fire ending just makes the cycles end, and that the dead Firekeeper in the untended graves must have kept the candles lit while waiting for her hero, Champion Gundyr, who looks a helluva lot like Demons Souls "Old King Doran" to arrive, before she was murdered, just as the Maiden in Black in Demons Souls does for the Slayer of Demons.
All the candles around the depressed(?) or asleep Champion Gundyr in the Untended Graves is kind of really symbolic if you think about it. They were probably lit for Gundyr by the Firekeeper but no Firekeeper awaited him. Its tragic.
Perhaps this is just nostalgia though. But Namco Bandai did publish Demons Souls in Europe. The fact that we got weapons like the Storm Ruler and Morion Blade back shows that they can do call backs if they wanted to. Really appreciate them.
>>338417628
Yeah, and I'm super jealous of your big ol' e-wiener. I'm going towards 40, my reactions are shit and I used to love Souls games because they initially weren't reliant on twitch reaction until Bloodborne came along and decided that observation, care and patience should no longer be rewarded, only how frame perfect you can slap that dodge button. Souls game aren't for me anymore. I guess it's only turn-based games until the end of my life for me.
>>338403640
shrine of storms and Sens
Was DS3 good?
>>338412810
I use the Wolfsword Greatsword for PVP.
I have an 4/5 win rate.
I honestly think any weapon in the game is viable if u build correctly and learn the timing, the reach, and hitboxes, and weakness of your weapons.
I love my build. But the people who can beat me are people who use for example the gundyrs spear. Or pure magic.
>>338418478
You can summon me any time, old timer.
>>338418541
Nope
How do you beat spears? I use a battleaxe and this aint Fire Emblem. I just get swiss cheesed. Every time I dodge the poke they just roll away and there is literally nothing I could do to prevent that.
>>338408635
Anor Londo is literally called The City of Gods?
>>338418243
>Ludleth killed the firekeeper
I like your explanation, but what clued you in to this?
>>338418478
>wah i'm old
git gud
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/lol-reaction-time-by-ladder-tier/
>>338417739
>killing a friend
I just had to destroy the old demon king fast before the dude wandered into too many AoE spells. I didn't kill Yuria for her shit either.
>>338418541
Yep
>>338402794
>what is the Bone Fist
