What went wrong?
>>338370693
The bigger question:
Who cares, or ever cared, about this game?
No one involved stopped development at an early stage.
>>338370693
DOTA is free.
>>338370693
overwatch exists
4,228 Dirty Bomb
4,128 Battleborn
4,109 Empire: Total War
4,088 Farming Simulator 15
4,066 Warface
3,975 Football Manager 2014
>>338370693
Overwatch is better
>>338370693
because of overwatch
i will give you the argument that there are differences between them, but casualfags will just compare it immediately to overwatch.the superior game
Gearbox wasn't shut down after robbing Sega
>>338371001
I can't believe they didn't switch to a F2P model after OW was announced. Shit is practically F2P grinding garbage anyways.
>>338371451
It's Gearbox's fault. They tried to pretend like they were competing with Overwatch up until Blizzard's boot was on their throat.
>>338371585
Oh shit
Absolutely and eternally stumped
>>338370693
>battleborn viewers on twitch: 726
>overwatch REPLAYS viewers: 2025
Its pathetic
Right now on Twitch
Live gameplay
Battleborn
771 viewers
Just replaying old VODs
Overwatch
2,025 viewers
They tried to charge $60 for a game where all other games in the genre are F2P.
>>338371451
This. The games are hardly even similar.
They decided it would be a great idea to go against a game with a company cult following, far more marketing, a cheaper price, a free beta, etc. Fucking stupid marketing decision. I like Battleborn more than Overwatch (even though comparing the two is retarded) but they probably killed it deader than hell.
>>338371771
To be fair a year ago that was exactly what everyone was claiming they wanted.
Just goes to show that nerds on the internet are full of shit
People currently playing Overwatch: 0
People currently playing Battleborn: Not 0
Cancel your Overbotch preorders and buy the superior game.
Pretty much everything.
This is legitimately the ugliest game I think I have ever seen, I genuinely can't think of any game that looked worse.
>>338371585
So sad.
>>338370693
>>338371967
>Stillbornfag mad that he bought the obviously shitty game
>pls buy my game so I dont have to play against bots anymore
>>338371740
>dead on arrival
I bet they will find a way to blame misogynistic nerds for that.
>>338372425
holy fucking shit
its that anus again
>>338371451
Pretty much, can argue they're different all you like it won't matter to the casual audience who will be the bulk of sales. All they see is an FPS and heavily stylised characters, and at a glance Overwatch is simply the more appealing product
>>338371585
The absolute madman didn't stand a chance.
>>338370693
What went wrong is that not one, NOT ONE, Battleborn fan has bothered to dump a paragraph explaining why this game is good.
Even a few of my ramblings have become pasta's for the usual bait 'hurr, it's a bad game' threads.
There isn't any discussion here at all.
>>338372425
Never thought I'd see that again.
>>338371819
Battleborn also had an open beta, but it just let people know it was trash.
>>338370693
It's an unattractive mess.
JUST LOOK AT THESE CHARACTER DESIGNS
>>338371819
They're both cartoony shooters, like how battlefield and call of duty are compared to each other
>>338371528
No, it's not. You can unlock doods in story mode
>>338371771
Just like overwatch it keeps out the poor kids and the Brazilians
>>338373217
Fuck you i have and i will again
>>338373413
Those people went on and bought the game. Hence <5min ques
At least the merch is of high quality.
>>338373689
hi randy
>>338371585
Honestly, I don''t even see how they would compete with each other, whoever wrote that twitter is such a retard, they aren't even the same kind of games.
I would say battleborn is more similiar to Smite but in first person, it's pretty much a MOBA in first person, while overwatch is just an arena shooter with objectives.
tl:dr 2 completely different games and yet gearbox decided that they had to compete
>>338373187
>>338371967
>>338371740
>>338371693
>>338371585
>>338373689
Made this in about 15 minutes using LibreDraw, specifically for threads like this.
Enjoy.
The matchmaking in this game is total garbage.
Basically if you're not in the US you can forget about getting into a game.
20 minutes for both invasion and story quests, couldnt even start once.
FUCKING DEAD
>>338373528
Jesus christ
Gearbox deserves to sink for their crimes.
>>338373989
My friend said he couldn't play it in my country because of this which is the primary reason I'm not getting it.
>>338373762
>figure is an improvement
woof
>>338370693
>Tries to compete with Overwatch
>Games has the mechanics of a moba
>Same exact gameplay as Borderlands
>Nothing like Overwatch
Well gee wizz, I wonder.
>>338374172
>Same exact gameplay as Borderlands
what, no
>>338373528
>>338370693
>Gearbox
Not even once
this game came out 19 days ago? since when?
>£40 for a moba
when will they realise that this is never going to happen
>>338374247
Well no shit amigo.
>>338374247
That's pretty amazing, since Battleborn is still obnoxious as fuck
>>338374384
What's wrong with Gearbox? :^)
Possibly the worst time to launch. Terrible marketing. Battleborn ads were spammed during the NBA playoffs. That's normie central.
>>338374368
Even Blizzard's token "women of color" are better.
>>338370693
http://battlestillborn.ytmnd.com/
>>338374349
What, Yes.
Unfornutatley I cannot refund the game at this point but it is Borderlands. The entire concept of the game is:
>WHAT IF WE MADE A MOBA GAME, BUT ITS ACTUALLY BORDERLANDS AGAIN?
>>338373528
>that peanut head
>>338370693
Released at the worst time possible.
>>338371101
pretty much this
>>338374580
please explain, when I played the beta it didn't look like it had actual gunplay or quests or loot
unless you mean the writing, which isn't gameplay
>>338374575
YTMND is still alive?
>>338374534
>that UI
>>338374608
Battleborn launching during Overwatch's open beta wasn't Memebox's choice. They tried to start something on Twitter and Blizzard went for the jugular.
>>338371585
its almost like a joke...but they really thought they could compete
>>338374683
I'm not talking about guns, But the entire game just feels like you're playing Borderlands.
Half of the characters just feel like Brick using his special.
The shields, the health, the loot. I was seriously hoping that Gearbox didn't make another Borderlands, but they did. It's probably all they know how to make considering how they're sticking to one engine.
>>338374451
so many buzzwords, is this heaven?!
>>338374368
>not sexualized
>THOSE HIPS
On what planet is thick not sexy?
>>338374534
>>338374795
It looks like that joke picture of the gunner underwater with the achievements and fingerless glove meter.
It wasn't a parody, it was a prophecy.
>>338374943
On a planet without niggers.
Just took this screenshot now
i hope this game hurts gearbox a lot
>>338370693
they went up against blizzard.
>inb4 they're nothing alike
in that case- they failed miserably in their marketing
>>338374575
the other shitty game got a free wekend though
battleborns alright its just
overwatch is way better... simple
>>338374993
Sorry for me being retarded but I can't understand if , for example,
players in the last 2 weeks: 95,876 +- 7704
means that 95,876 people played total in the last 2 weeks with an average of 7704 online?
>>338374812
Blizzard just blew some air at them and they got fucked.
Changing beta date was hardly effort for them
better then paragon open betas next week LOL l
Why do you people even pretend to care about battleborn
>>338374451
Actual legit question, what did gearbox did so wrong in the last years? I haven't played a game they made after BL2, which I enjoyed back in the day, and I was aloof about the whole burch writing back then. The thing that annoyed me the most was the improper level scaling in the DLCs, plowing down enemies that are 10-15 levels lower than you was not quite enjoyable.
>>338375220
No, its an estimate of sales, with a margin or error of plus or minus
>>338370693
>horrible bland character designs out of an f2p game
>terrible UI design choices
>bullet sponge enemies
>grinding for characters in a 60$ game
>very likely paid DLC incoming
>matchmaking is horrible
>directly provoking and challanging Blizz/Overwatch (releasing 1st char dlc on may 24th is not a smart idea to compete with Ow)
they practically killed their own game
>>338375334
Aliens Colonial Marines
>>338371230
>dirty bomb has more concurrent players
lmao
>>338374534
>>338371585
This post perfectly explains the second problem that Battleborn had (the first being that the product is shit.) An effective marketing campaign can definitely overcome a shit product by creating a strong brand for consumers to rally behind...the problem is that Battleborn's marketing was ineffective in building a brand (in part because the art is so generic.)
Faced with this reality, the marketer does what they can to segment and target what they view as the potential audience. Because Battleborn had really shitty marketing behind it, they targeted the potential Overwatch consumers. The idea was probably grounded on looking at the quarterly window in which the game was released...because consumer only has X dollars to spend on games annually (which is flawed, gamers will almost always find a way to pay for a good experience, regardless of how crowded the release window is. It happens every holiday.)
A healthier and long term view of the product...in which you would target gamers as a whole rather than a segment of gamers would definitely have been less poisonous to the overall Battleborn brand...shitty games get some love on /v/ all the time if even one aspect is good or well done. I could imagine an alternate reality in which someone had something good to say about this game...if they hadn't poisoned the well so badly.
>>338375410
kek
>>338370693
>Grim dawn has almost the same players as Battleborn
This game is fucking dead.
>>338375410
>>338375462
>>338375334
They haven't made a good game in about 17 years.
First person view did not fucking help. It should have been a 3rd person view. After playing Gigantic, Battleborn felt insanely inferior and Gigantic is still in heavy development. Battleborn should have been a 3rd person moba.
>>338370885
Fucking savage.
>>338375462
Battleborn is the most eye cancer I've seen since BF3
>>338374368
WHO GIVES A FUCK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338371740
>>338371230
I'm somewhat mixed. On one hand I feel bad for 2K. On the other hand I'm grateful Gearbox get eternally BTFO.
>>338375334
>stole art design from another person to serve as a basis for borderlands and never gave credit; before it was a grey semi-realistic shooter
>misappropriated money from sega to fund their own games
>in litigation with a cripple that has a wife with lupus; if said cripple loses in court he can't afford his medical bills and his wife dies
These are the things off the top of my head.
>>338375334
>Stole the development money from Aliens: Colonial Marines and funneled it elsewhere.
>Lied to Sega about it constantly and then tried to blame them for such a shitty game.
>Showed footage that was no way an accurate representation of the game, etc etc.
Take your pick really, oh and Randy Pitchford is a massive egotistical cunt.
How people can still support them, who knows.
>>338375837
Holy shit that design's amazing.
>>338376124
>in litigation with a cripple that has a wife with lupus; if said cripple loses in court he can't afford his medical bills and his wife dies
That's related to Duke 3D right? I have no idea why this is an issue to begin with, since 3D Realms (or whatever's left of them these days) still has the rights to everything Duke related pre-DNF, and Gearbox only has everything DNF and future projects.
It was in the contract Randy you lying shitbag
>>338375837
The art direction of Gigantic is barely a step up from Battleborn though and it'll keep people from playing it just the same.
>>338374247
>>338374368
This fucking virtue signalling makes me sick
>>338376776
The high skill ceiling will keep people away anyways. Gigantic isn't for shitters. Also I love the art design.
>>338376776
BattleBorn lost because it didn't spark interest. Last thing people want now is a MOBA. The class based shooter thing, Overwatch does it better and the one major thing. People give overwatch free publicity, look at all the fucking cosplayers and people turning out fan art. Something click with people to Overwatch while Battleborn just looked painfully generic .
>>338376967
>Something click with people to Overwatch while Battleborn just looked painfully generic .
non-repulsive character design
>>338374575
>ytmnd
>In 2016
How?
>>338376967
Battleborn characters are overdesigned mess. They look like things 13 year old would do, thinking it's look cool.
>>338373528
This tbqh
If Battleborne would have only waifu tier characters, it would be more hyped than Overshill.
>>338376084
>I feel bad for 2K
Why?
Looks what they did to mafia as well.
>>338370693
They released it around the time Overwatch came out, and so a lot of sheeple faggots decided to shit on it out of an incredibly misguided sense of brand loyalty.
Battleborn just released in a perfect storm that would fuck it up as much as possible.
>>338375334
Noting from a product standpoint is so offensive. Sure their games are kinda shit, but lots of games are kinda shit. The problem is that their marketing is so fucking awful. Just way beyond anything the rest of the industry does in terms of being awful.
Show me the battleborn cosplayers having twitter fights. Show me the high quality porn. Battleborn is dead. RIP. That is what you get for being hacks.
>>338377217
Or the game is shit.
>>338375013
That hair tho
>>338377217
You know Blizzard extended the Beta a day to fuck over their release?
>>338377274
What's your opinion on Overwatch?
Biggest shame about Battleborn is that the gameplay is actually kinda fun but everything else about it is absolutely atrocious.
>>338377217
Nope. Just no. This is not actual buyer behavior. Maybe for the unwashed masses of /v/, but not actual human beings.
>>338375837
Just looked up videos, when is it coming out?
>>338377381
Shit also.
>>338377449
Was that webm supposed to be indicative of the gameplay? Looks like just hitting melee button over and over and literally nothing else.
>>338371870
I mean it is what I wanted, right now the community in battleborn is probably the best community in any moba ever, it's just so tiny it's unsustainable.
>>338377732
H-have you actually seen the community
A delusional, toxic circlejerk does not make a good community
>>338377561
It's actually fun, but he is right, everything else is just wrong. Art design, UI, bad view choice, and balancing.
>>338377467
Devs said they won't release till they have a 30+ roster and have more than 10 maps completed. Will be getting a ingle open beta weekend this summer and then a fulltime open beta in the fall. Til then try and get in closed beta, supposively they are going to be more generous with keys this time.
>>338377452
There's a reason most reviews about it go something like "This wasn't as bad as I expected."
It's because there's already a narrative about stuck in the mind of consumers that it's poor-man's Overwatch, and it won't go away.
This is stuck to Battleborn like a cancer to the point that even reviewers are basically admitting they went into the game with the preconceived notion it would be shit.
So it's really no wonder everyone is shitting on this game so hard despite not playing it.
It's nothing more than a marketing disaster, and empty headed cretins are getting swept up in the zeitgeist of it.
>>338377796
That's the great part, the "community" doesn't actually fucking exist because there aren't even really enough people for a major circlejerk that sustains itself across multiple sites. And with what little community actually is there, it isn't nearly as bad as other ones for mobas since there are almost no 14 year olds, brs, or cykas.
>>338377937
S-shit you're right
I think this is the best argument for playing Battleborn I've seen yet
No joke
>>338370693
They should have never stolen money from SEGA
>>338374368
I hate people that want women to cover up and not be sexualized, I hate them so fucking much.
Everything should be sexualized in a video game. Men, women, young people, old people, dogs, amoebas, lamp posts. It doesn't fucking matter, you insipid cunts, it's a bunch of pixels on a screen. Man, I am so sick of hearing this shit. Like making women wear burkas is so progressive. As a gay dude, I want to keep playing and seeing strapping half naked dudes in my games. Why should straight people be denied the same luxury? Plus if they are, they'll eventually come for me and my perverted fetishes. These people are literal fascists, despotically destroying our vidya one triggering at a time.
>>338370693
Honestly I have to believe that Blizzard employees are responsible for those negative reviews. Nobody even bothered to try this game because of the catastrophic marketing direction they took. By all accounts from people who have actually played this game(the 5 of them that exist) it is actually a really fun game and not analogous to Overwatch at all. Blizzard just had to spend a micro portion of their marketing budget paying interns to buy keys and write shit reviews.
>>338377561
During the open beta, I played as pic related, and that really was all there was to do.
It's just a really boring and uninspired game, that's what killed it for me.
>>338370693
they wont shut up about sjw nonsense
>>338378017
Also since there's no chance of it ever becoming "esports" you don't get those "I should be in the highest league but everyone I get matched with sucks" whiners in every other game since the only reason people are actually playing it is for fun.
>>338378223
More likely a tiny fraction of overwatch's fans reeeing at battleborn's attempted competition tweets. Blizzdrones are very defensive.
>>338378620
So you are saying the best thing about this game is that it is not very good and not a lot of people are playing it.
>>338378620
A bunch of people saw it and were "nah that doesn't look fun" and they skipped it.
>>338378620
A-Are you...
I don't know if you're seriously retarded or a master baiter.
>>338370693
Obligatory.
>>338373528
That's pretty fucking ugly, no matter from what standpoint you look at it.
Who okayed this?
>>338374368
>impossibly big brawny man is shirtless
I guess it's okay to sexualize as long as they aren't female.
They didn't patch it. It's a broken mess in terms of balance and progression and they didn't even hotfix performance issues on certain (new) maps that weren't part of the beta.
They have the option to quickly deploy patches on Steam but want to release the patches on all platforms, means Xbone, PS4 and Steam at the same time, therefore delaying any update until MS and Sony finish their lenghty approval and certification processes.
The game is unplayable right now if you face enemies who abuse the meta and pick certain heroes while your team doesn't. Half the heroes are also inferior to the other half as they fit the same role but perform worse.
That's before looking at how pointless and badly designed the PvE coop mode is - it shouldn't have been in a MOBA-FPS with heroes and limited character builds to begin with.
That said, I had a better time with the Battleborn multiplayer than with Overwatch because the concept is more interesting and the map are full of small objectives, pickups, turrets, enemies and stuff to do while Overwatch is just a TF2 clone with maps full of chokepoints and questionable hero balance.
>>338374509
Partially because Blizzard never really did much virtue signaling with Pharah, Symmetra, D.Va or Mei (assuming Asians are PoCs this week.) Oddly enough, the only time they engaged in virtue signaling was with Zarya - a white woman.
>>338375462
To this day, the question who even WANTED this game to be a reality remains to be answered.
>>338375837
Question: When there are 100000 mobas, why would a studio make another one?
>>338379234
I don't know how or you can hold questionable character balance against Overwatch while covering how broken Battleborn is right now
>>338379234
they are not. The game is good as dead.
It's made by Gearbox
I actually played Battleborn during the beta some hours, but the game was incredibly unfun for me. And the graphics was utter shit.
>>338379427
MMO logic. They want to be the next big hit that blows DOTA2/LOL away, but don't realize people who already have significant time/ money invested into the others are less likely to just jump ship.
>>338371693
>it's pathetic
You mean twitch viewers in general? I agree.
>>338379613
>but don't realize people who already have significant time/ money invested into the others are less likely to just jump ship
I can't habeeb it. This is literally the most basic conclusion when looking at the situation.
They know exactly what they are doing, and they should know exactly how hard they are failing. Why are they doing it anyway?
>>338379498
Because both are disappointing in that regard. It's like asking which medicore game is better or worse - they just don't feel well balanced and designed and if character balance doesn't work out in a class based title it means something is wrong.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/c0h68Se.png "latest[1].png")
>>338373528
The art style reminds me of early 00s low budget CGI
Anyone else?
>>338377860
It is true that they brought by Pacific World and it's not by Microsoft's anymore?
>>338375462
How could they failed that much?
They could have reuse the Borderlands UI, no one would have care
Fucking Titanfall failed, and that game was fun as hell.
What chance did they think Battleborn had in a genre that already has two F2P giants that have swatted away other competition in the past? Holy shit.
>>338379838
That picture was a blast from the past.
Never even watched that shit, but I remember it being on the same channel as... I think Pokemon and Xiaolin Showdown?
I like it. There are some seriously bad decisions, but the overall gameplay is pretty fun, and it sucks that they won't drop the price down to a more sane 40 dollars.
Yet again, Bliz shills are in full swing to rip apart any game that could even begin to compete with their precious not quite as good as TF2 clone. I mean TF2 and even smaller arena shooters were basically a twinkle in people's eyes, yet somehow they are all shit compared to Overwatch. Hm.............
Anyways, it does some pretty fun things. There are some great characters with solid lines (ISIC, the sentry tanks for example), and it does a pretty damn good job of making characters feel unique and different, yet no matter the mode, no characters are really useless. (Unlike Overwatch's, although this is sorta saved by allowing hero switches.)
Personally, even though I hate the MOBA genre, the moba style gameplay is fun. I like a bigger emphasis on not dying myself.
Unfortunately, the biggest sin is that it's such a fucking grind to unlock the full roster, something I am finding INSANELY frustrating. I wish gearbox would just come right out and say "you are right - we fucked up. How do you want us to fix it?" I wouldn't be mad if unlocking maybe a 3rd of the roster was a little difficult, but from the start, only a 3rd of the roster is playable. That's unacceptable.
Also, there is a severe lack of modes, although that is allegedly being fixed in the next update.
I paid 30 dollars from a CDKeys website. I think that's a good price for it, honestly. I'm still having a pretty fair amount of fun, and honestly /v/ has been cherry picking pretty hard about this game, but really it's just "okay."
>>338378934
And you'll never know for sure.
>>338370693
The gameplay looks kind of fun, but I'm not willing to sink 70 dollars on it.
>>338375465
This is actually a pretty good post, anon.
>>338380260
titanfall sold plenty of copies, died fast but was at the very least a success money wise
this is not
>>338379773
I think in Battleborns case it's that the FPS-MOBA "genre" is pretty much empty, so they think they can snare FPS players away from what they play with MOBA features, and give MOBA players something different with FPS features, and end up with a game bigger than MOBA+FPS combined.
It comes down to arrogance on Gearboxes part.
>>338380339
>Bliz shills
It's my first Blizzard game, though, anon :^)
>>338378620
It pains me to admit that this is actually a sound argument
>>338380513
You don't even need to play video games to be a shill anon (^:
>>338374575
>YTMND
Well, I know how I'm spending my morning: rewatching the classics.
>>338380903
>Battleborn figures image
I had to look it up, I couldn't believe it.
How could they fuck up that badly?
>>338379427
Games take time to make. They started development when there weren't as many competitors.
>>338380035
I would have preferred if Battleborn was an FPS MOBA version of Borderlands. Its humour might be cancer, but at least the gameplay was alright.
>>338378206
Meh, it's hardly fascism if a creator changes his work to be something he wants to see more.
>>338381196
By being cheap.
>>338380903
>tracer fig
Anon, I...
So when is Gearbox gonna go out of business? Sure at some point people are gonna get tired of fucking borderlands
>>338378940
Is this for real? Did people actually buy this bs excuse? As if splitscreen isn't all done on the same account?
>>338381298
>Those lips
what the fuck
>>338380903
Wait, what's the story behind that Square Enix crossover art?
>>338370693
Bad release date
>>338381298
A mediocre face and good everything else is better than a shit face and a mediocre everything else, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNeh7Rg3t4U
>>338378940
>months for split screen
Alright that's understandable, if you can't do it you can't do it.
>But don't worry we followed the basic standards for pc ports :)
Fuck em.
>Call Battleborn "Shitty Overwatch ripoff" whenever I see it being discussed on places other than /v/ (pissing in an ocean of piss, etc.)
>Huge tantrum ensues
Who /devilish/ here?
>>338381416
It wasn't a bad release date, anon. Blizzard just decided to murder Memebox's chances at their game not flopping by moving their open beta to Battleborn's launch.
>>338379838
my god this show
fucking korea i swear
The robot was rad as fuck tho
>>338379238
That's because everyone flipped their shit over it. Blizzard wasn't gonna ignore free advertising.
>>338375708
Fuck you I liked brothers in arms.
should have been just a new Borderlands-ish game, only this time with 20 something kooky kharacters saving the Universe and shit
FPS-MOBA is a brain fart idea, the should have been shit canned the moment someone said "you can stun people in a first person shooter"
https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One?sortby=MostPopular
#41 most played
#44 best selling this week
>>338374509
Having a pretty face is problematic.
>>338376776
I personally can stand neither BB nor Overwatch but am fine with Gigantic.
>Grinding in a game that's full retail price
This is their biggest sin and why I refuse to purchase it.
Don't try to half-ass this fucking shit. If it's F2P then you have a valid EXCUSE for shilling characters. Not every game lives off hats like DOTA can, I don't expect you to. But I drop $60 on a game and you STILL expect me to grind for content? Piss on an electric fence.
Gearbox, who has a garbage rep for apparently being staffed entirely by assholes, thought they can make a MOBA and announce halfway through that they were going to switch to Memelands 3 as soon as they were done. Read: No post launch support.
Couple that with characters that aren't nearly as interesting or gameplay nearly as engrossing, and you've got yourself a recipe for Gearbox signature garbage.
>>338377449
>gameplay is actually kinda fun
>Everyone is a huge bullet sponge
>Levels have almost no verticality
>>338381668
What was the original date for the open beta? I can't find it.
>>338370693
Overwatch has a lot going for it competitively, but if anything it also has the cinematechs going for it casually which could easily grab someone's eye. Sorry, but Gearbox just isn't as talented as Blizzard when it comes to getting you hyped with Pixar level CGI work.
It's an FPS MOBA, but because of Gearbox's awful marketing people thought (and the vast majority still thinks) that's it's a Hero Shooter a la Overwatch/TF2. This is what killed it.
>>338382232
This, what the fuck? I just about understand having to buy heroes in LoL, but in a game you pay full price for? That's fucking irredeemable.
>pay 60 bucks
>still have to grind in-game currency to unlock stuff
yeah, how about no
>>338375837
I wanted to play Gigantic because of the art direction.
Then W10 only came and now I want to see it die.
>>338372427
It's an obvious joke, anon.
>>338375334
They stole money that Sega gave them for Aliens: Colonial Marines and used it to make Memerlands 2.
>>338383168
Isn't it not W10 exclusive now? I thought I heard they were getting rid of that restriction.
>>338383168
damn that looks comfy
>>338383384
I remember wanting to play the closed beta for ages, and when it finally happened, they announced a partnership with Microsoft and W10 exclusivity. I haven't seen anything about the removal of that retriction anywhere.
>>338383538
>>338383384
https://www.gogigantic.com/en/news/perfect-world-partners-with-gigantic
Holy shit you were right.
>>338383538
Apparently they got a new partner that doesn't have Microsoft's sick wedged firmly in it's asshole so they were able to abolish that restriction.
Too bad it's fucking Perfect World Entertainment
https://www.gogigantic.com/en/news/perfect-world-partners-with-gigantic
>>338383620
Thanks for the heads up, nerd
>>338383620
Yes it is.
>>338381298
Hi Brianna.
>>338371585
>blizzshills still pretend it's because overwatch and not because there's tons of f2p garbage on the market already
Man, I just can't help but think everything that is going wrong with Battleborn is something Gearbox did on purpose because they have an ego that fucking huge it can't be described in words.
I bet during one of their meetings to decide stuff like release day and price they were like "lets release it before Overwatch, we'll get it out early and dominate the market because we're Gearbox fuck you Blizzard!".
You just know something like this happened because that is how arrogant Gearbox is.
>>338381196
They were cheap freebies with gamestop preorders. Doesn't excuse them being quite as terrible as they are but you'd be insane to expect them to be high quality.
>>338375013
That emblem on the side looks strangely similar to goatse
>>338383939
Honestly a lot of the game's choices feel like they only make sense if it was a big hit that people couldn't stop playing. It's frustrating to say the least.
>>338383934
>Blizzard moving their open beta to Battleborn's launch had nothing to do with Battleborn flopping
Anon, are you retarded? There was even a Battleborn dev complaining about it a few days ago.
Gearbox. They had the chance to, right off the bat make it clear that OW and BB don't compete. They should have made sure everyone knows the difference.
But they didn't. Instead they, as most western Devs would, assumed their product was flawless and that they could do no wrong. Their arrogance told them to 'btfo blizzard' since they were so sure that their zany and BADASS characters are much cooler than OW and that their progressive designs would win the fans over.
And here we are now. They deserve every bit of it. I hope the game is dead within a month after the OW release.
>>338384141
Holy shit
>>338374993
Some things to consider.
Of the 108k users who own the game, 102k of them have at some point played the game. This is 94% of it's owners. Despite this, it struggles to maintain 5k concurrent users.
What this means is the game is just bad. The people who actually own the game are not playing it much anymore. It is not an issue of sales, nor is it an issue of "y-you didn't play it, people who played it love it!". It is literally people who own the game are just not playing it anymore, most likely because it's not a good game.
Let's not get into the actual statistics of the game (about 420k sales across 3 platforms, has made back about 1/3rd of it's total budget and is probably never going to make it all back).
>>338383620
Don't try to run away from your autism, bro. It will not go away.
>>338379838
this fucking show
>>338383620
Here's a question,
If you want to be the next League or CS GO in terms of dedicated playerbase, why would you host your game on a platform you didn't have complete control over?
>>338384675
Because unless you're a major publisher using an extra client that's not steam can keep people from playing your game.
>>338384376
Good post.
People can't even call you a Blizz shill.
I'm currently playing it since I have nothing better to do (Other than studying) until overwatch comes out.
It's literally just a moba in first person, it's fucking terrible.
>>338378940
>Randy Varnell
>Randy
Every time its a fucking randy
I really want to enjoy Battleborn. The campaign is a lot of fun.
Gearbox really fucked themselves though in a few ways, one of which was releasing it so close to Overwatch despite the games not playing the same at all.
The unlock system for heroes is kind of annoying because it means you have to grind to play the ones you really want. It's not an F2P game so there really isn't a good reason for this.
I'm not going to go into the performance issues much, but because it's basically tied to PhysX, it runs like shit on anything that isn't an Nvidia graphics card, and it's probably worse about it than shit like Arkham City despite not even looking half as detailed.
>>338370693
Blizzard shills
>>338384376
This
I own the game and I can tell you that this anon is 100% correct
It was fun for a little bit, but all the little cracks and flaws in literally everything, plus the constant low amount of players, pretty much killed it for me.
Gearbox will need to literal miracle work if they ever want this game to do okay past this month
>>338378268
>play melee character
>complain when you do melee attacks
Fucking retards.
>>338378940
>No Borderlands 3 split screen
I'm fucking mad. Just make it like Borderlands one without that multiple account bullshit.
>>338374368
Man, glad I'm not that guy
so who's money will Gearbox steal to stay afloat this time?
Bad artstyle.
Bad marketing.
Bad QoL.
Bad Publisher.
Fun game.
Fun can only outweigh so much.
>No one playing
>Already half off on key sites
>Overwatch comes out in 3 days
Fucking retarded Gearbox. Hopefully they fuck off from the industry now
>>338385015
It's not a good post. The logic is fucked.
If you have 100k people who own your game and 5k people who play it at a time, that means 1/20th of the people who own it are playing it at once. That's pretty good, technically EVERONE owns TF2 and Dota, but not even 5% of steam users will be playing those games at a time. And for most games, if you can get 5% of your customers to play it together all at once, that's pretty good.
Afterall, it's been noted many times that people who buy games might not play them, especially on Steam. Those that do play them, likely won't even finish them.
But the logic is even fucked beyond trying to make a strong player base look like a weak one. Because it assumes that the 5k pool of players are all the same people all the time. In a 12-hour time span, it is not the same 5k players playing anymore, it's a different pool of 5k players. Which means that, at worst, it's more like the game that sold ~100k copies on PC has ~10% regular players who bought it, which is an excellent player base.
/v/ is a board that likes to talk about how TF2 is dying, but I only wish the games I regularly played online had as many concurrent players as these supposedly dying and weak playerbases.
>>338375410
>Fingerless glove meter
Gets me every time.
>>338385259
I own it to and I always find players almost immediately. Are you playing Meltdown? because only scrubs play Incursion.
>>338385607
Game was half off on keysites before it was released.
- Terrible visuals
- Nothing does damage because moba
- Most fights are not won by skill but by team member participation (moba)
- Melee is just a cluster fuck
- 100 fov is not enough
- keep left click clicked melee feels TERRIBLE
- single player is boring as shit
- normal co-op is boring as shit
- single non-moba mode is still not fun because, well, see point number 3
The game just doesn't work, at all. I regret the 30 bucks I spent on it.
>>338385165
HEY
not all randys
>>338385763
I had no problems finding players too when I playedYes, I did play Meltdown
The problem is that having a good playerbase size is the life blood of a multiplayer focused game.
Having only 4k players after release does not bode well for longetivity
>Game has super original line-up and inventive outside the box gameplay
What a tragedy this game was released says /v/
>Game has THE single most ripped off cast, gameplay, and story, EVER.
Please glorious Blizzard masters, feed your shitty cashgrab to me
>>338385861
>shitting up vidya with your persecution comolex politics bullshit
Fuck off, sage/not vidya
>>338385928
Go to bed Randy
>>338385616
You can't compare this shit to DotA 2 because like you said, technically everyone owns it. There is no accurate statistic for how many people actually have played it.
>>338385587
They're part of a multi-billion dollar corporation.
>>338385865
literally all those points apply to Overwatch to some degree
>>338385616
>complaining about logic
>trying to compare a $60 gearbox games' statistics to F2P games with 100x the userbase and no buy-in
fuck off.
>>338385914
It's still a baby. They want to be a competitive moba. I think it'll pick up as more modes and characters come out. It's really a very well made game. And it has a heavy hitting af studio. I have hope. It's not like Evolve
>>338385713
I don't understand why "fingerless glove meter" is funny, am I missing some reference ?
>>338386059
Except they don't.
As leery as the Japanese are of Overwatch, at least they care about it.
>>338371585
savage
>>338374368
>Women, want respect? Dress and act like a man!
