Will Overwatch get bigger than CSGO and become the new go-to FPS E-sport?
csgo has no cute grills
>>338366641
is CS:GO even relevant anymore?
I doubt it, though it will be a really popular game.
>>338366641
i hope, this game got huge potential
>>338366641
This thread goes down and is replaced with the same image and text ad infinium until the game is shilled into to mind of the masses, I bet you were the faggot that posted those "did you call me blueberry" thread every day aswell you colossal faggot.
LOL
CSGO takes a hundred times more skill than this shit.
>>338366865
from what ive played it's all RNG
>>338366865
That wasn't the question though
>>338366805
>Everything is a shill.
Maybe the game is just really popular right now and people want to talk about it. It's not like the threads get spammed and get no replies.
>>338366865
Does it?
Will Overwatch have tradeable skins you can bet on competitive matches and then proceed to sell for real money?
No?
Then no.
>>338366641
I hope Overwatch gathers a medium, stable playerbase blizzard steadily pumps some content out for and doesn't go full cancer community wise like CSGO, TF2 or mobas
>>338367005
No, not everything is a shill you fucking cum guzzler, but this EXACT thread just went down and it's up again same image and text and all. The same exact thing that happened with those fucking window maker blue berry threads so no, this isn't just the typical "HURRY WHY DONT YOU LIKE FUN PEOPLE LIKE THENGAME LET THEM TALK HURRRR" it's done to an extent that it's becoming shill like
Also
>it's not like the threads get spammed
You're joking right, you couldn't possibly be THAT autistic.
>>338366865
it actually doesnt
>>338366641
I don't know if it's going to eclipse CS:GO, but it's going to suck literally every other FPS competitive scene dry. The problems a lot of these scenes have is that there's not a lot of money in tournaments and that the competitive game doesn't look anything like the game that the majority of players actually play. CS:GO having a ranked mode that anyone can get into and mirrors the same kind of play that professional players participate in brings in more viewers, which in turn brings in more money and sponsorships, which brings in more competitive players, and the cycle continues.
Most FPS games have a large gulf between what the general, "pub" experience looks like and what the "pro" competitive scene looks like. TF2 is the most obvious example - competitive sixes is nothing like what 99% of people who play TF2 think of when they think of the game, and as a result TF2 competitions don't have that many viewers who can relate to what they're watching. No viewers means almost no money, and as a result there's really only one "pro" team that even has sponsors in TF2. The same is true for almost every other competitive FPS scene - there's not enough viewers and not enough money.
Overwatch won't have ranked at launch, but it will soon afterwards. Even without ranked mode the standard quick play looks and feels a lot like competitive play when you queue with a six person party, and that already goes a long way toward keeping the format consistent with what competitive play looks like.
One thing Overwatch doesn't have and will probably never have is any kind of item trading system, and that means no betting - and illegal betting is arguably one of the biggest reasons why CS:GO has as much of a spectator driven competitive scene as it does. Betting has become as big in e-sports as it is in real sports in the last few years, but with even less regulation against it.
>>338366641
they'd have to alter ults entirely to make people play it competitively as an e-sport
right now its for people who like butts and were bad at tf2
>>338366865
>hide in the same spots all game
>aim at the same spots all game
>>338367217
>>338367339
I've never understood why so many games separate casual and competitive play so distinctly
>>338367485
Nice response faggot, if that's all you had to post you shouldn't have bothered posting at all besides you got to watch those threads so you can replace them and shift those units right?
>>338367550
dont
>>338367581
>OPM
Shit taste confirmed.
>>338366641
>Will Overwatch get bigger than CSGO and become the new go-to FPS E-sport?
NO
but it will be nice
>>338366641
No, Overwatch makes for a really shitty spectator experience because there isn't really a defined front like there is in successful spectator games like Starcraft, CS, and ASSFAGGOTS.
Almost everything you need to know in the aforementioned games are encoded in how the players and units are laid out in the field and pretty much all the strategies work off of this. It might be dangerous to go here because they are going to be cut off from their team and surrounded but could potentially catch the opponent off guard. It's all about movement and strength throughout the map and this can very easily be shown to the viewer in very concrete terms with a minimap or simply by panning across the map or switching from player to player.
In Overwatch the frontline really just consists of a series of chokepoints where a bunch shit happens. Instead of surrounds or outmaneuverings you just get a series of breakthroughs. These can be exciting when they happen but when they don't it is boring as hell for a spectator.
>>338367809
>Overwatch
Shittier taste confirmed.
>>338366641
short answer: yes, no
long answer: overwatch will never be bigger than CS Source 2
>>338366973
So?
>>338367963
game isn't even out yet and most people who played in the beta were incredibly casual.
I bet you a meta will form.
>>338368449
>I bet you a meta will form.
There is nothing there to form. There is no customisation in weapons so no options, skills are very simple and don't allow huge options and counter picking is very obvious and rigid
The most that can happen is people realise certain characters just aren't really worth playing
>>338366641
>Will HOTS get bigger than DOTA and become the new go-to MOBA E-sport?
>>338366673
as long as is in the e-sports it will remain relevant
>>338366641
It's certainly already been posted far more on /v/ than CS:GO.
But no. It won't. Not for a good while at least. CS:GO's user retention model is miles ahead of Overwatch, and it's free to start.
>>338368613
completely wrong, RNG involves skill.
>>338366865
Overwatch takes 0 skill tho
>>338368696
Just like luck is a skill
>>338368661
>It's certainly already been posted far more on /v/ than CS:GO.
because blizzard has payed shills here valve doesn't.
>>338368661
CSGO isnt free.
>>338368634
>dota
kek. you mean lol. dota is almost dead at this point
>There are people who actually care about esports and think more about spectating others playing games rather than playing the games themselves
what a time to be alive
>>338368726
aren't you just lucky to be skilled anyways? Luck is the only skill and skill is always luck.
>>338368726
If you alter your chances consistently, then yes it does.
if it was 0 dollars instead of 50 it would
can you imagine how big starcraft 2 would have been if it was free? itd be league of legends level big
I hope it doesn't die very fast
>>338367809
You're so sad
>blizzard
>>338368840
Have a better image
>>338368759
>dota is almost dead at this point
can you name a blizzard game with this much price money cuck?
>>338367091
This is the cancer killing video games.
CS:GO is a complete joke and anyone that pays hundreds of dollars for a shitty skin that took 5 hours to make and is getting inevitably useless as time passes, needs to get euthanized with a crowbar.
Overwatch games at high level will be won through superior meta-game; they won't be won through DM skill.
The shooter elements are actually quite simplistic, easy, and boring by design (Blizzard intended this).
>blizzard esports post 90s
>wow arena, the biggest joke in gaming
>heroes of the storm the most casual esport ever
>RNGstone
>deadcraft 2:150 dollars edition
no OP
>>338368979
>not won through skill, but superior meta
What the fuck is the difference?
>>338368946
>>338369038
If you don't know what DM is then your opinion can be ignored.
>>338369041
The International what?
>>338368952
I just like collecting pretty skins senpai
Then again I am a hoarder
>CSGO
>Gameplay is relevant
I see more doing gachapon, trading and betting more than actully playing the game.
>>338369038
Go away moba baby
>>338369081
I know what a dungeon master is, I just ignored it because it made no sense in your post. Fyi: overwatch doesn't have a dm
>>338369174
(You)
>>338366641
If it does then Esport and competitive shooters will become an even bigger joke.
>>338369102
??????? biggest e-sport event in the world
>>338369102
dota 2 tournament, I presume
counter strike has the worst business model ever i dont know how its so big
>have to buy the game
>9001 paid microtransactions
>literally same game and maps from 15 years ago
>only one proper game mode
>looks like complete shit
the only thing i see it having is that it runs on an etch a sketch
>>338369281
oh pff whatever, i'd rather watch the PGAs
>>338369241
lel dota has one meaningful tournament a year. people only care about it for 1 week a year. and it has about 20 current players that arent russian
>>338367005
The threads have been spammed for weeks with the same images and text, almost all of them some single line sentence like "Will Overwatch be the best game of 2016?".
It's painfully obvious that it's getting shilled.
>>338369287
>literally same game
(You)
>>338369351
agreed. but it beats dark souls threads at least.
>>338369351
Please post proof that shilling is occurring, baseless claims like yours are easily dismissed.
>>338369348
5 major this year blizzard wish they had so much tournaments
>>338369374
different enemies, other than that you throw the same nades, buy the same 3 weapons throughout all rounds, hand full of maps.
it's kind of a monotonous game.
the only thing that keeps people playing is seeing their digital rank going up.
>>338369437
>Please post proof that shilling is occurring
Yeah man, I spend all my free time making collages of obvious shillposting so I can post it when someone like you comes along and claims it doesn't happen.
Even if I did make such a collage you would still find some way to claim that it's all delusion and lies.
Shilling is shilling, whether you want to believe it or not.
>>338369437
>stealth marketing
>posting proof
????
>>338369401
/v/ is so boring right now. cant wait for e3. every thread is either anime pedos, dark souls, overwatch shilling or nintendrones/sonyggers. shits getting bad
>>338369518
I wish Dota 2 wasn't such a massive piece of shit and that the community wasn't a bunch of Valve dicksuckers while Valve themselves are going full lazy jew mode.
But hey, what can you do?
>>338369554
>too lazy to prove it
Kek, whatever. For all we know you're a shill for Battleborn.
Its super fast paced with a low TTK, very clear graphics and effects so you know whats going on with large playmaker ults to quickly turn the tide.
It also got the perfect setup for alot of different comps that fits each teams playstyle.
>comparing an established esports game with casual blizzard trash
>Strawmanning with skins arguments, while that has nothing to do with the discussion and blizz Jews WILL monetise OW in the exact same way eventually
Csgo is a serious esports game because it's unforgiving formula creates the games depth and those ebin moments. It also appeals to an older crowd with deeper pockets. The gameplay formula makes it a competitive game and that is where it's lasting appeal comes from.
I strongly doubt overwatch will have the same lasting appeal and gameplay debt. Tf2 comes closest and it never had a serious esports scene, while it's competitive play was better.
If it will become better? I think LoL is complete garbage but it has a vibrant esports scene. The quality of a game is sadly not a good indication of its esports success. I guess if you have enough twitch kiddies to dedicate to your game and twitch channel it will be a success. Will it become bigger? Prolly not. The whole comparison is bullshit to begin with anyway. I just like arguing and calling out supporters for their laughable taste.
>>338369351
This. Holy fuck has it become so obvious. It's like they aren't even trying to conceal it anymore.
>>338369643
>For all we know you're a shill for Battleborn.
I thought Battleborn looked terrible so I didn't even play the open beta.
I looked forward to Overwatch but got bored with it after 2 days of playing the beta, so I canceled my pre-order.
None of this changes the fact that Overwatch is getting shilled. Not my problem if you want to plug your ears and eyes to reality.
>>338369725
>TTK
???
>>338369752
And yet you have no proof of Overwatch shilling.
I guess you're upset that a game that annoys you is so liked by a massive amount of people. Do you also think that everyone who told you in real life how great Star Wars is was a shill?
>>338369837
Time to kill
>>338369625
I wish Blizzcuck would stop thinking they are better than Valvedrone Blizzard are the biggest jews in gaming and assholes.
>shallow
>20 tickrate
>aimed at the low brow
Will the special Olympics replace the normal Olympic games?
>>338369902
are you describing CSGO or Overwatch?
>>338369902
Its not shallow.
>>338368946
I actually wonder how many PC kids went there and spammed with comments like those, pretending to be console players.
>>338369902
Well, at this point the special olympics are probably more fun to watch
>>338369902
Football replaced baseball. So probably.
>>338369869
>And yet you have no proof of Overwatch shilling.
And yet you have nothing to prove the contrary.
This very thread is a direct repost of a thread that just went down, how do you explain that?
>>338369902
csgo isnt the olympics
lets just say its like a real sport, which it isnt. if another sport comes along thats more fun to watch and play then it will replace the first one.
>>338369942
The most complex it gets is counterpicking, which isn't even complex
>>338366865
100x0 = 0
Nice try m8.
>>338366641
Unlikely. Aside from both games having completely different playstyles, people won't be able to part with their hundreds of dollars worth of skins.
hows the CS:GO general in /vg/?
>>338369890
>I wish Blizzcuck would stop thinking they are better than Valvedrone Blizzard are the biggest jews in gaming and assholes.
I wish people like you stopped making baseless and ignorant assumptions like massive idiots.
I dislike current Blizzard and Valve equally.
I never liked MMOs like WoW, SC2 (all iterations) is bad, D3 was a shitshow, Hearthstone is a casual MtG, HotS is boring garbage.
Valve, Dota 2 and the community are all equally shit.
>>338368979
>>338369038
>>338369976
The burden of proof is on you.
The threading can be easily explained. 9.5 million people played the beta. There are a lot of overwatch fans on here.
overwatch wil replace csgo like heroes of the storm replaced lol and dota
overwatch will even only be slightly more relevant than tf2 because blizzard will pump 10k here and there to entice the csgo rejects and tf2 "pros"
>>338366641
My guess is its gonna be a tie for a oupe years and then overwatch takes over and csgo dies
>>338366641
Overwatch is a casual game created by a now casual company for casual players who want to have somewhat "clutch" rushy feelings while playing. Any attempt to make it a esport game will force it and create a divide in the playerbase resulting in the minority being people tryharding at a casual game like retards instead of getting into a real competitive game and the majority being casual players enjoying the game.
Because its a fucking casual game.
Rinse and repeat argument for casual games throughout history. Do you believe in magic? I don't. I believe in facts.
>>338367091
Dota 2 had all this and look at it now
>>338370178
I like how 10k is all they'll need, too.
TF2 "pros" are like cheap whores.
>>338370147
Notice the game's get funner as you get lower.
>>338370163
>The burden of proof is on you.
Hardly. I don't need to prove anything to a fanboy. So this is the final reply I'll waste on your bait posts.
>The threading can be easily explained. 9.5 million people played the beta. There are a lot of overwatch fans on here.
Yeah and most of them just repost the exact same threads for weeks, directly after the prior one goes down, with identical text and images.
It's all just a repeating coincidence.
>>338370296
Personally I think they're all fun except CS:GO.
Never since CS:GO is less than $20 and has a major/minor/regional every 10 minutes.
>>338370297
>can't come up with any proof or any logic showing a thread is shilling
>resorts to "I won the argument so I'm not gonna reply anymore"
Don't forget your tinfoil hat on the way out.
>>338370296
>Quake wasn't fun
sure thing buddy
>>338370163
>9.5 million people played a free open beta that was marketed to high heavens
Wow you don't say. Do you really think that those same 9.5 million will buy the game for 40$ let alone 60$ on consoles where the majority stands? No. I know you're delusional but you can keep it to yourself and save others the trouble of looking through shit.
>>338370116
bump
>>338370296
casual
>>338370116
Good
>>338370463
who cares they're literally trash tier
>>338370463
awful
circlejerks, tripfags, people pretending to be girls, weeaboos, shitposting and elitism
>>338366641
absolutely. have you seen how big it's viral budget is?
>>338370420
Not him but I would really like to know how much they pay you
>>338370538
haha savage!
>>338370559
So, /v/?
>>338370296
>game's get funner
You type like a fucking child.
>>338370582
(You)
>>338370163
>The threading can be easily explained. 9.5 million people played the beta.
Nope, that was logins and not even unique
>>338370454
>game is marketed to high heavens
>gets millions of people to play it before it even releases
>appeals to wide audience
>but it's impossible for there to be a natural influx of people wanting to discuss it on /v/
>>338370621
you understand you're posting on /v/ right
>>338370624
Overwatch in its current state is a poor e-sport for spectators. Way too much chaos. It's difficult to determine what is going on in a fight until its over.
Damage done is meaningless because healers just negate it all. Even kills can be undone. The action is very fast paced but it all feels transient.
In CS:GO there are quiet moments to balance out crazy kills, or a great play. There aren't really moments like that in Overwatch. The whole thing can just pass you by, and you'll never really have a sense of what were the pivotal moments in game.
>>338370672
>>but it's impossible for there to be a natural influx of people wanting to discuss it on /v/
Using the exact same images and text, re-uploaded the instant the prior thread goes down, for weeks?
>>338370672
Here's your evidence cum guzzler, Wow games no shilled at all with a total of 319 results in the archive over the past 7 days which is the majority of the threads for /v/ for the past 7 days. Kill yourself.
>>338370621
>grammar police calls other people childish
I remember being 14 years old too
>>338370791
>it's literally nothing
>>338370791
>game is popular
>more Posts about it
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>338370672
>nooo blizzard would never ever market their game on /v/! they're the good guys!
>>338370791
>>338368063
>implying
haha great thread
>>338370832
>>338370872
>>338370928
Nice rebuttals faggots.
>>338370996
You're retarded
>>338366641
>be a pakistani kid
>destined to be a esports champion
>OW is 40$
>CS:GO is 8$ on sale
>Dota and LoL is f2p
????????
>>338370832
>>338370872
>>338370928
>all post the same
>no shills
you cant make this up
>>338371146
I hope you people aren't serious
>>338366865
But Overwatch requires no skill so that means CSGO takes no skill.
Probably not.
There isn't enough emphasis on solo skill, so a lot of the best fps players won't play it as much competitively.
At best it will get a bit more popularity than TF2 as an e-sport, but fall into the same niche.
>>338371146
>thinks similar responses to the same post is shilling
Oh man, when 20+ posts respond with surprised reaction faces it's also paid for by a big cooperation too, right?
Stop with the tinfoil hat shill shit.
>>338371310
t.shiller
>>338371310
Why is it tinfoiling tho? Obviously OW has a enormous marketing budget, what could possibly stop them from paying people to promote the game?
>>338369890
>Blizzard are the biggest jews
I'm a valve drone and I know that isn't right. You do realize that trying to lock mods behind a paywall alone makes Valve huge jews right?
>>338371458
every game from blizzard is behind a paywall you cuck.
>>338371310
>WAAH STOP CALLING US OUT WAAAAH
>LET US HAVE OUR WAY WAAAAH
>>338371458
>modfags get a little bit of money for their work
>selling 16 years old game for 20$
Yeah, no
t. modfag
>>338366641
>Casual as fuck
>No skill gameplay
...
>E-sport
are you high nigga?
>>338371560
>>338366865
But is unwatchable unless you fully understand the game.
>>338367005
Yeah there are no shills there
during beta my daily quota of hidden waifuwatch threads was around 80 threads,mostly regarding your best waifus,what did he meant with this,that chimp,nerf mai,nerf this,will it surpass X game,is better than X game,blizzard wins again and so on
During mornings I had around 40 hidden threads,twenty or more were shillwatch related,a good chunk of shitty shouls 3 threads,parkourcharted 4 and his nyggers reposting the same things over and over,then some other crap game like doom being hated or shilled.
Then someone openly admitted to be a blizzdrone marketeer and started to sell ticket for shittywatch convention in his town,then another one and possibly two more
Then multiple jewnuvo threads,some replies or better say a fake discussion was copy pasted from a two month old thread,it was like someone having fun bumping his thread with copy pasted arguments to bait users in it
There is a general board for this crap but browsing /v/ sometimes is like browsing /asp/ minus the bulky and sweaty baldies hugging themselves in op pictures
>>338366641
>E-sport
There is no E-sports. This events are marketing events for the game.
>>338366641
>Overwatch
>E-sport
Remember, Monday night combat?
That's whats gonna happen.
>>338373387
>implying blizzard games arent fully unwatchable even if you understood whats going on
everybody understands team based war, meanwhile overwatch and blizzshit in general is like a bad acid trip. just confusing and weird clown simulator.
>>338377003
or Brink. nobody talks about it anymore or plays it even if it was supposed to be the "next big thing" and "esports". That´s what is gonna happen to this flavor of the month shit too.
>>338366641
No.
Primarily because teams have already made it clear they don't enjoy it. There was a write up by one of CLG's players about Dreamhack recently, and how Blizzard refused to even talk to the teams or have anyone on site, and refused to help with anything in-regards to the tournament. Overwatch's presence at Dreamhack was one big advertisement.
Major teams are passing on having an Overwatch team and ESL, CEVO and Starladder have all expressed concern over the fact that Blizzard doesn't seem to be interested in working with them, only leeching off their tournament promotions. Look how Blizzard handled Heroes of the Storm. That's how Overwatch is going to go.
>>338371458
>Bliizard
>Not the biggest Jew
Sure valve is fucking Jew but Blizzard is worse since Activision bought them
>>338368653
English isn't your first language, I can tell.
>>338366641
A game with crutch abilities like wallhack and aimbot will only be a fungame made for idiots coming from LoL or Dota
