![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gWn5V9m.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
For the people who shit on overwatch.
Name me one multiplayer fps with a better map design:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W8jH6GL0Bw
team fortress 2
>>338326186
Not even close bud
>>338325854
Bad company 2
/thread
No point in replying since OP made this post with his mind already made up.
>>338326946
Im not, im probably the most open minded guy in all 4chan.
Im genuinely interested in your responses.
unreal tournament 2004
yep
>>338325854
Halo 3
Battlefield 2
Battlefield BC2
>>338325854
Unreal Tournament
That was hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznoMeB4GYE
>>338325854
>overwatch
>good map design
There are two decent maps.
>For the people who shit on overwatch.
why do you care
you already know this shit is crack, it's gonna be a huge success
because everybody and his dog will be able to pick it up and have dumb fun with it. fuck about it's map design
>>338325854
>Overwatch
>good map design
>>338326760
>overtly linear and small maps
Literally wrong pick.
>>338327412
> dat cherrypicking
>>338326186
TF2's map design is incredibly shit.
>i have no idea what im talking about so i blame the maps because Lucio pushed me off the edge or Reignheart blasted me off into space
>>338327979
How the fuck is that cherrypicking? Who in their right mind would argue against BC2 having more linear maps than BF2?
Just how?
>>338325854
any arena shooter in the last few years games you probably never played.
>>338328184
Name one.
>>338325854
>Name me one multiplayer fps with a better map design:
done
>>338327979
All maps in BC2 are small as fuck, and most of them are linear excepting for like two.
>>338328225
Quake Live, Warsow, Nexuiz the new UT like every good fps has better maps.
>>338327412
don't you have a MordorHQ thread to be whining on about how BF2 will never be a thing again?
>>338328087
>TF2's map design is incredibly shit
It's also way better than the map design in Overwatch which is made by people who have no idea how to even design FPS maps in the first place.
Although out of the dozens of TF2 maps there are many that are really good. And even if you don't like the official maps there are literally hundreds of popular community maps you can pick from.
How many maps has Overwatch?
>>338326230
>>338328087
Not him, but TF2's payload and a/d cp maps have far better layouts than Overwatch's maps of those modes. Overwatch loves having dead-end pathways too much, and lacks flow.
Overwatch does have good map design in its KOTH maps though.
>>338325854
Overwatch's maps are garbage because for the most part they're all essentially the same and largely irrelevant since you blaze through the map just to get back to the objective.
>>338328281
Whats so special about that map, take off your nostalgia goggles.
Action Quake
>>338328087
overwatch tries to mimic TF2's maps and is much worse
>>338325854
But the map design is absolutely horrible
it's not that much of a stretch to say the game is just simply unplayable
>>338325854
>open video
>overtly analyzing the design of an extremely open area that attacking players should control easily unless they are literally brain-dead
You just pick Pharah and completely destroy the defenders in the first area, then the team moves easily into the next point. That control point is extremely easy to capture because of Blizzard's shit level design.
>>338328281
Facing worlds was cool, but its not a very competitive map at all. Pretty much the 2fort of UT, really.
OW maps ARE TF2 maps
>>338328623
You sound like you haven't played the game at all.
>>338328438
BF2 had the best map design but it had some horrible flaws.
Even BF3 and BF4 have better map design than BC2. Those games also have some of the best maps from BF2.
BC2 was an abortion.
>>338328526
>I hate fun
lol, enjoy being a fag, son.
>>338328759
I played the game for like 20 hours during the beta shill. That first point is very easy to capture unless the attacking team sucks completely.
>>338328801
we are talking about map design, not about fun.
That said, i loved ut back in the day too.
>>338328281
>>338328801
>he fell for the FW is a good map meme
That's one of the worst maps in the original UT.
And Q3 had way better maps anyway.
what is Overwatch version of Dustbowl or DE_Dust2
>>338329028
dustbowl equivalent is temple of anubis
im not sure about dust2, do you mean dust2 in like popularity? then its unknown because theres no server browser
>>338329028
>implying you can pick maps in OW
>>338328876
>shill
Okay dude, sorry for trying to encourage critical discussion in this shithole.
>That first point is very easy to capture unless the attacking team sucks completely.
Not if you play againt's competent players.
>OW will never have a map as fun as CP_Steel because of Blizzard is obsessed with esport shit
>>338329232
Since this place is such a shithole, why don't you fuck off back to wherever you came from?
>>338329232
>Not if you play againt's competent players.
Not really, if the teams are evenly matched there iss no way for the defense for holding that point for too long.
>>338328773
fuck you BC2 had the best ways for breaching the objectives in Rush (that was also introduced in bc2)
arica harbor is the best rush map in any battlefield game, i can still remember trying to defend the first 2 points with mines all over the place while the opossing side had 6 tanks, the constant sieging in the small garage in the A point of the second phase, nothing in bf3 or 4 came close that because maps are strictly made to be conquest based.
>>338329232
>whining about "this shithole"
Confirmed for shill.
Don't worry m8, maybe you will get a job that at least pays minimum wage in the future.
>>338325854
Any other multiplayer fps.
The design is horribly imbalanced.
>>338327274
It's just tf2 and overwatch babies who mad they are dead game. Then you're atypical meme shit who hates Blizz and most big devs for no reason while simultaneously playing no games and only posting on /v/ all day
>>338329446
Rush was a shit mode made to pander to CoD kiddies, like you.
Africa Harbor is linear as fuck and also very small compared with most maps in the mainline series.
>>338325854
one of the biggest problems with overwatch is the map design.
>>338328087
theres a limit when dick sucking is enough and then theres you. Tf2's map design may not be that great but its still better then Overwatches like Hanamura's shitty choke point that can only be avoided by the games most nimble characters and the way they place health on maps are retarded as fuck like its supposed to be hidden and out of the way or something instead of out in the open.
Even the Japanese aren't sure about this game.
>>338325854
>paying blizzard for 20 tick server access
jesus christ
>>338330059
A lot of those maps were clearly designed for PvE play and then poorly reworked for PvP.
>>338325854
Quake
UT2k4
Duke Nukem
>>338325854
TF2
RTCW
Quake 3
CS
Painkiller
nuDOOM
Ratz instagib :^)
Red Orchestra
AVP (1999 shitposters)
Tremulous
Reflex
UT2k4
Tribes
FEAR/FEAR Combat
Any pre-Crytek BattlefieldBFBC2 and BF4 also
>>338330319
>Red Orchestra
Seconding this.
>>338330143
It never crossed my mind to check out 2chan's /v/
I've only seen their /o/ and /h/ board
>>338330208
>A lot of those maps were clearly designed for PvE play
>Overwatch
>PvE
>>338330143
>Why can't americans make japanese characters who aren't ninjas/yakuza
Why can't the Japanese make American characters who arent blonde.
>>338330425
>he doesn't know
>>338329730
personally conquest has always been boring for me in theory its supposed to be a squad based game with a commander giving orders and support but in reality squads don't matter unless you're playing with friends, planes and attack helicopters are camped by the same guys that never give support, points are captured by one person and then everyone forgets about them, etc. you get my point.
meanwhile 64 player rush on Metro was a fucking clusterfuck of nades, c4, medics, lmgs, shotguns, and it was funbut i respect your opinion :^)
>>338330319
>nuDOOM
nuDOOM's multiplayer map design is horrible.
>>338330143
None of those translations have anything to do with the posts
>>338330542
In my defense, he didn't ask me to name map design that was GOOD, just better than Overwatch.
Overwatch is pretty fun for a little while, just like any shitty CoD game you play with your friends for a weekend. But I'm sure as shit not going to buy it.
>>338330541
>personally conquest has always been boring for me
Why play a Battlefield game if you are not a fan of Battlefield?
>defending Metro
Kill you're self.
>>338330754
>Overwatch is pretty fun for a little while, just like any shitty CoD game you play with your friends for a weekend. But I'm sure as shit not going to buy it.
Yeah, thats why everyone is losing their shit with the game.
>>338330143
literally made up translations
>>338330681
By all means, anon. I'm interested.
>>338330914
...because I'm not going to buy it? I can only assume that's what you meant, because that's the only thing I wrote that wasn't obviously opinion, faglord.
Even if your post did make sense, you seem to be making the mistaken assumption that a game's popularity is indicative of its quality, which I'm sure you know is not the case (see League of Legends, Call of Duty, and a majority of forever Early Access open world survival games that want the Minecraft audience).
>>338330914
>game is popular therefore it must be good
>candy crush must be good
>angry birds must be good
>>338328454
KOTH maps are fun, Overwatch's issues is that it's really tight corridors on A/D maps. If they added more alternative paths and added more open areas, it would be better.
I think that's part of the reason why people think Bastion is OP, he just has good map advantage compared to the others.
Still like the game though, I might buy it later down the line but I don't think I'll preorder it.
I love how /v/ instantly trashes Overwatch right when it gets popularAnd by love I mean fucking hate this entire board of retarded manchildren
>wanted to get overwatch
>friends are getting overwatch
>want to play with friends
>lame maps completely turned me off of the game
im still thinking of getting it, though im worried i might regret it
>people insulting Battlefield 2 ITT
Stop it! I...said STOP IT!
>>338325854
Splatoon
>>338325854
>Overmeme maps
>good
lol
One TF2 map alone is better than that
I have a question. My fps counter is always a solid 60 but I can see that it just isnt. Its not lag but its somekind of slowdown at certain hectic times. Anyone know what that is?
Halo 2
>>338327097
Halo 3 has worse maps then both CE and 2. Hell 5 too, though 5 lacks any native BTB maps
>>338332725
>Overmeme get marketing
>even the shill admit it
>hur you hate cuz popular xDD
Nigga the OP alone is bait
Overwatch maps are bland and generic
That game is not about skills , but muh powers.
How that shit is fun? Do you really enjoy that?
Do you honestly think is better than TF2?
>>338333071
>anyone who likes what I like is a shill
>I'm going to ignore the fact /v/ loves Overwatch
Did you even play the game?
Christ, why don't you fuck off to 8gag?
>>338325854
i can't. overwatch is the beginning. the end. the viral.
>>338325854
>Name me one multiplayer fps with a better map design:
The level design in overwatch is dogshit.
I can name pretty much any decent Multiplayer FPS with better designed maps.
Counter Strike
Quake
TF2
Seriously, Overwatch has ripped off the level design theory to TF2 so much it's laughable. It's taken the same style of geometry and chokes, health despite lacking class parity, singular player driven emergence, character movement that allows for a skill ceiling in skirmishes, and a general lack of skill in general, not even mentioning those fucking ultimates. It's a goddamned shitshow.
20 TICK
5.5 M/S MOVEMENT SPEED
SINGULAR CHOKES
HARD COUNTERS
Other games;
Halo, even
Painkiller
Tribes
Unreal Tournament
Battlefield 1942 + Modern Combat, 2142 etc.
I CAN KEEP GOING
Level design is objectively bad.
>>338328087
Explain why Blizzard ripped off the entire level design systems of chokes, flow and general aesthetic of TF2 for your beloved overwatch then.
>people say OW maps are bad
>dont say why
>>338333542
>muh 20 ticks
>I never actually played Overwatch: the post
>>338333071
>He still thinks Hat Simulator is a good game
>>338328454
>>338330059
Holy hell, the choke points aren't even that bad at all
Git good
>>338333715
Great rebuttal. Argue with my points next time. No excuse for anything below 40 tick in 2016. Overwatch should running at least 60.
>>338333550
May I direct your attention to:
>>338333542
>>338330059
>>338328623
>>338328454
>>338328442
>>338333413
yes and i dropped theg ame after 2 days
i am not saying some people on /v/ don't love the game , but your post is basically
>you hate it cuz popular xDD
when is more
>i think is nother power fps that doesn't need to be played , is just another casual multi fps.
But yeah , people don't like the game because contrarians.
Also the OP is really flamebait.
>>338333719
You need skill to play TF2 , OW is a gimmick casual fps.
>>338325854
>Name me one multiplayer fps with a better map design
Star Fox Assault
>fps
Oh...
>>338333051
Halo 2's best maps are asymmetrical and those types cannot be competitive. Halo 3's best maps were symmetrical and therefor already better
>>338333880
Who cares about ticks, dude?
The game is still fast, hectic, and engaging. The only real place where ticks are relevant are the competitive scene, and competitive gaming is a fucking joke
And your points are bullshit.
Same style of geometry? lol
General lack of skill? Flat out fucking lie
Lacking parity? Please
Most of these points are nitpicking from somebody who most likely mimics opinions from some random neckbeard on /v/ instead of playing games
>>338334160
>i think is nother power fps that doesn't need to be played , is just another casual multi fps.
>>338327035
I don't believe you considering the map design is one of the biggest complaints Overwatch gets.
