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Looks like there's a new character Zero wants nerfed.
Will it ever end?
https://youtu.be/f4EJEphj65c
>>338289538
>giving a shit about scarflard
>>338289538
>literally the only fun viable character to play as, to fight against.
>takes the most skill by far
>not even the best character
>NERF HIM PLZ
Fuck the Sm4sh fanbase. The 3rd party characters are the only fun characters to play as. stop nerfing them.
>>338290120
To be fair, Bayonetta before the nerfs was only fun for whoever was using her.
>>338290120
just because he has different inputs for his attacks doesn't mean he takes skill, ryu is braindead as fuck
>>338289538
I swear if he complains about anything other than input shoryuken
>>338289820
Haven't heard that name in a while
Maybe if they didn't focus so much on nerfing characters and instead focused on buffing characters that desperately needed it...
>>338290120
They need to buff Pac too, poor bastard has like no kill options and a grab that's embarrassing
>>338290863
I think it's crazy that shoru can kill at 50%, and it should be nerfed a bit.
Make it a true kill at 100%, bam, easy uptilt combo at 80%, clean stock
>>338291421
I'm so sick of seeing this.
Don't you realize that he's supposed to run away and camp, like in his original game? He's not supposed to have good kill options besides his set ups and slightly laggy smash attacks.
He has so many good get off me moves, and is already a great character.
My WII U gets a blinking red light whenever I try to turn it on. Is it kill?
>>338290120
weak up tilt into true shoryuken is fucking retarded
everything else is fine
>>338289538
not a serious fighting game
>>338289538
>ZeRo can't handle shotos
MODS BAN ANYONE USING SALT EMOJIS
How long until every character loses everything they have going for them?
>balance patching a childrens party game
>>338292723
Smash 5
>>338292607
GET
>>338289538
He never said he wanted Ryu nerfed. He just said he was surprised he wasn't.
>>338293383
Same thing faggot, now hop on the nerf bandwagon
>>338292723
Never. Bayo being the only character touched in this patch kinda implies that they're done with patching the game.
> people whining about Ryu's DP
> people whining about meaties
> people whining about start up i-frames
> people whining about FADC combos
Guess it's a real fighting game now.
>>338289538
Anyone else find themselves doing his shoryuken accidentally with the alternate input? I'll do something like a dash into a short hopped aerial and do his stupid shoryuken without meaning to since the inputs are the same. Obviously I'm not a skilled Ryu player, is this an issue for those who are?
>>338293358
ASS
>>338291418
>joke character
>needing buffs
>>338293953
REPORTED
>>338293552
Not necessarily, they've done patches like this that only affect a single character before and this is coming not long after the last patch. I think we can make that assumption when they actually come out and say they're not doing any more.
>>338289820
100x this
>>338292102
Yeah, you better get that shit checked out immediately.
>Can pull off all of Ryu's moves flawlessly in SF
>Try to do a tatsu in Smash
>End up facing the wrong way, tatsu away from my opponent.
How many people actually take scarflard seriously?
>>338290120
>>literally the only fun viable character to play as, to fight against.
>>to fight against.
You've never played against him as a big body I see. That fucking up-tilt string is inescapable.
>>338294013
>>338289538
It's surprising that he paid attention to Ryu now. He is serious DLC bullshit.
>Up tilt makes every heavy shit-tier against him
>His aerials do massive damage for no reason
>Huge fucking hitboxes
>Heavy as fuck
>Good recovery
For example, Captain Falcon in Melee did 16% with his down air, but got all his aerials nerfed for Brawl and then even more for Smash 4, and so did every other character. But here comes Generic Fighter Street Fighter Man, with massive damage on his aerials for no reason at all.
He can combo shit like in street fighter, which is retarded. He can actually combo people in a game where combos aren't actually a thing. The only thing keeping people from picking him up is that doing a true shoryuken drives some people off. He's true DLC bullshit, but never got attention because Bayo was just that much worse.
>>338293882
You just have to be careful about how you move your stick.
Its a huge hassle and the biggest issue learning ryu. Once you learn how to not use his inputs accidently you can become a god.
>>338289538
I play in Cali tournaments all the time, and I gotta say, Zero is the biggest faggot in the world. He tier chases like a bitch, playing Diddy, then Sheik, but now he doesn't want to pick up an actually skill-demanding character like Ryu. He's such a fag.
>>338294292
>Scarflard can't beat fucking Ryu
I hope he never wins another major what a shitter he had no issue abusing Hoo-Hah or Shiek till she got nerfed. Ryu is combo food with shit recovery how hard is it to beat him?
>>338289538
>>338289538
so.... he says the shoryu has no startup lag or end lag
forgets to mention that if you whiff you are a sitting duck
>>338294234
Fuck dude, I've already blown it twice over with compressed air and twice with a hair dryer on hot. I looked up and it seems that it's a problem with the ventilation, not sure what else I can do, can't even eject the smash disc.
>mfw i'm the guy who brings smash over to hangouts and we're probably going to meet up this weekend
>>338294425
He never got that much attention because his inputs are too hard for the average smash player.
Do you really expect the average Smash player to be able to not only hit all the true inputs, but link them in true combos that throw together weird SF3/SF4 style combos, utilize 1F cancels, and understand Marvel 2 style air game?
Ryu in Smash is basically SF3+4+Marvel 2.
This is what I was afraid of when Sakurai decided to become a bitch and give in to the demands of autists like this guy.
Sm4sh would be a good game if every character had the same depth as Ryu instead of braindead easy Flowchart combos and kill confirms.
Prove me wrong.
>>338295185
more like it would be good if people could die below 100% damage and also if off stage play existed in any way shape or form
>>338294292
/r/smashbros
Rosalina is the only character who still needs a nerf badly
Jigglypuff, Dedede, Duck Hunt, Game and Watch, etc. are all waiting for anything to buff them
>>338289538
>nerfing a party game
How do you that? Decrease the fun? The fuck.
>>338294903
Did he really like Diddy before Smash? Shiek I know she had a following from OoT but he seems more like a ZSS or Peach man than a Shiek man.
>>338294903
>Ryu combo food
>frame 1 focus attack that gives him fast movement in the air
>shit recovery
Wew lad.
>>338295919
He literally only plays the best character in a game
Melee Fox, Brawl Meta Knight and he used to time stall and Diddy before 1.0.6 and then Shiek before 1.1.5 then he quit because Bayonetta was too hard for him
He's a giant faggot
>>338296323
Dont forget 3.02 Pit in PM.
>>338296305
He's a big hit box and a fast faller so yes he gets combo'd easily. If the use Focus Attack hit them with something with multiple hitboxes or grab. His recovery is also very vertical and horizontal in direction making it easy to gimp
>>338296485
Link me a video of Trela getting gimped please.
>Zero
>doesn't enter a tourney after Bayonetta is released
>suddenly enters a tourney once she's nerfed
>>338297378
that's cowardly, but smart.
>>338289538
>Ryu
>Underrated
No everyone knows how good Ryu is, but he is the hardest to master. Which is we don't have a lot of him.
>>338297378
>but muh hand injury that just recovered the moment she was nerfed!
Not like he had anything to fear anyway. No Bayo has ever made it to a meaningful grand finals and only a literal handful made it to a top 16.
Scarflard while Sheik is top tier
>no character should be nerfed, they should all be buffed to match Sheik. Sheik represents what Smash COULD be.
Yeah but, you've only been playing her for a few months and managed to hit ger ceiling. She's good because she's got good spacing tools, and retarded easy offstage combos with good recovery
>hurr, git gud, if Sheik is so OP why don't you play her and beat Zero
Scarflard after Sheik nerfs
>Bayonetta is too difficult to use, she's weird, I won't play her
>OMG BAYONETTA IS TOO STRONK, SAKURAI PLS NERF
>Ryu hasn't reached his full potential yet. He should be nerfed
But Ryu is hard to master and has an incredibly high skill ceiling, he represents what Smash COULD be if everyone was designed like Ryu. Characters that are difficult to master earn their top tier spots since it takes genuine dedication and understanding of the game to master them. It's not something you can get good at in mere months
>doesn't matter, he's too strong, just listen to THIS guy. See, he should be nerfed.
What a fucking fraud.
I hope his gf dumps him again.
>>338297378
She was op as fuck I wouldn't either.
>>338297985
>no Bayonetta wins a major during that period
not denying she was too strong, but cmon
>>338290120
>le all my moves are gamestop trades man
Fuck you
>>338298062
Not in the west anyway, I heard that she won majors in Japan and Russia.
>>338297378
>all those chins
Does he keep his gamecube controller in there?
>>338298386
She didn't except maybe one Sumabato, but I'm not sure
>>338294903
>Scarflard can't beat fucking Ryu
He can.
He does.
All the time.
I love Scarflard threads. You can see all the people who have only seen his tweets and the invitational coming out of the woodwork.
>>338298386
Maybe westerners are afraid of using a waifu that happened to be good but smeared by scarflard, as if picking her would ruin their cred?
>>338297881
He said Diddy should be nerfed when he mained Diddy.
>>338298551
Then why the fuck is everyone crying that she is OP if she is barley winning any majors? Yes I get that she can chew up everyone on and below mid tier like breakfast but that means nothing
>>338294304
>That fucking up-tilt string is inescapable.
SDI You scrub
fucking mash the joystick up away
holy shit
>>338298591
Hi Zero.
>>338298672
She is just like a better ice climbers only instead of getting zero to deathed by grabs you get zero to deathed by getting hit. Thats why she got the stigma around her.
>>338298751
Because she launched mediocre players to winning regionals and ruined local scenes
She WAS too strong for sure, it's just that the top most players are so proficient at their characters that they could get around her
>>338298751
Because when a character is crazy good like Bayo their mains become lazy.
Same thing with pre patch Luigi.
Also majority of locals were won by random Bayo and made less people attend
>>338298386
>she won majors where more than half the contestants were using her.
By sheer probably, yes, that would happen.
>>338298803
>j-j-just SDI
fucking try it, especially on fastfallers
the problem wasn't that she killed top players, it was low-to-mid range skill levels
>>338298932
And all I can tell those scrubs is get good, or play one of the links. Bayonetta seems to struggle in that match up
>>338299062
Yes, everyone has to get really fucking good just to beat one character
Get real - the character was the problem if it beat everyone until a certain level.
>>338298979
Which ones? Because I checked on the Japanese players who plays her, they were top tier players before Bayonetta so why would they not be top tiers before?
>>338299027
https://youtu.be/0vBYomrYy1s?t=5m4s
Also, average tr4sh commentator.
>>338299027
I'm pretty sure I was talking about Ryu's light uptilt
and fastfallers can get out of Ryu's uptilt
if the player is RETARDED yes Ryu's light string is " inescapable"
>>338299547
What is this supposed to prove?
>>338299636
>the problem wasn't that she killed top players
>>338299587
Oh woops, sorry, thought you were a Bayo defender
>>338299749
Wasn't this when she was only very recently released? MVD very clearly has no idea what he's doing there
>>338299749
Wasn't Pink Fresh a top player himself way before Sm4sh
>>338289538
Another e-celeb thread.
Mods what happened this shit would result in a bann years ago
>yfw scarflard's plan is to nerf every character better than Sheik and/or Diddy so he can go back to using them again
>>338299873
Yes, he got good results despite maning Lucas.
>>338299873
He was more a mid tier player. Didnt really have a chance in hell against the top.
>>338299991
Because he used Lucas all the time.
>>338299970
He dropped lucas though.
>>338289538
>>338290120
>>338292607
>>338292723
>>338292849
He didnt say anything about wanting Ryu to be nerfed
>>338301359
Yea he did.
>>338298932
>Because she launched mediocre players to winning regionals and ruined local scenes
So the real issue here is, she fucked with the tourneyfag status quo.
>>338301791
Not really, she just made tourneys super unfun for people who just went to their local smash tourney
if that's "tourneyfags" then I guess?
>>338301791
t. someone who has only played FG Bayos and has never seen the matchup played correctly
>>338301791
She also fucked the online play. Every other asshole who gets his ass handed to him would switch to Bayonettaand still lose
>>338302012
>t.
You can see the tears in people's faces as they type this.
>>338302080
FG has been fucked from day 1. Noone on there has an ounce of sportsmanship. and I dont mean the faggy scrub term where you're not allowed to block/grab/use projectiles, I mean everyone leaves after the first win, or spams taunt after every kill, or insults you through their tags even when they lose. On top of that there's always flavor of the season characters. Eg during the FG days you would only see Little Mac, and after Cloud got released you would only see Clouds. Even now you mostly only get Clouds, Macs, Links, Falcons, and Bayos.
>>338295117
>1F cancels
I feel like you're using this wrong and meant links, but explain further. Far as I know needing to do a cancel in a 1F window is a fairly rare input, the only one I know of is Bridget in GG^C for roll stop cancel combos.
>>338302494
>during the FG days
Meant to say 3DS.
>>338302080
I miss when faggots would switch to Diddy Kong
>>338302080
Some Bayonetta's I play tend to be pretty trash. A few rely too heavily on the easy bake combos and end up being pretty predictable.
>>338302641
Great stage Sakurai.
>zero
I haven't forgotten the invitational scarflard, lame shit doesn't impress me.
>>338303248
I say the same about Pokemon Stadium
>>338292607
LTG actually really likes Ryu in SFV and uses him off stream. Says Ryu only needs a small damage nerf and that's it. His frame data is perfect and he's the perfect character.
>>338298751
People were complaining about her because shitters who couldn't even make it out of pools at small locals were suddenly breaking into top 64 from winners side at nationals while cleaning house at weekly's solely because of Bayo. It was like back when everyone had a "main" that "wasn't Diddy" and then they would go Diddy the instant they lost a match and two-stock whoever they were facing two games in a row, and after he got nerfed they weren't heard from again because they drowned in pools because all they knew was HOO HAA.
>>338289538
>Itt:turbo virgin who relies on the cheapest characters and cries for others to be nerfed because he can't git gud.
