if you can afford it.. i'll give you exactly one minute to post five authentic reasons why you haven't switched to pc gaming yet, consolefags?
I play on both PC and consoles because I have a job
sage
Because I might fuck up and build that abomination.
>>338282238
>sage
>>>/faq/
>>338282145
I have two jobs, also a girlfriend
Better than buying a PC anon, games are to have fun, not to be obsessed with. Also portables a best
>>338282145
1. I like to sit on my couch
2. I like to know that I can buy a game and it will work
3. I don't have any desire to learn all about specs and hardware or to have to buy new shit all the time
4. I have nerve problems so if I use a mouse and keyboard for too long my hands go number
5. I have a demanding job and barely enough time to play anything so spending $1000+ on a dust collector is stupid.
Literally don't feel like looking up a guide to build a PC
>>338282589
>>338282747
>>338282774
Those all seem pretty legit to me.
I like japanese games and don't feel like being a part of your indoctrination
>>338282145
i know nothing about computers aside from how to look up free porn and torrent tv shows. i dont know what parts to get, how to put them together. and i know better then to ask for advice because i would end up cutting my video card on the perferated line or some dumb shit like that, that to you guys is common sense, but to someone that knows nothing about them would have no idea. i also like putting a game in and playing it...but thats not really a thing on consoles anymore, you have to download shit and update now with consoles, its complete bs
>>338283913
>TFW OP is a neckbeard who cannot contradict any of those arguments and hides behind MUH PC MUSTURBACE while hiding this thread forever
>>338282589
>two jobs
fucking wage slaves
Its a massive waste of money that could be put toward a house, a car, or even food.
>>338282589
Lmao2jobs #justpoorfagthings
>>338282589
How is playing games on PC being "obsessed?"
>>338282145
This has to be bait.
>>338282238
Patrician answer.
>>338282747
You make some valid points, but that last one...
You have no time to play videogames but you have time to be on /v/? Leave and go play something nigga.
>>338284497
You care more about hardware than actual games.
>>338284301
i liked cyclps until his costume change with that stupid x visor. his character changed so much after a v x and the phoenix stuff. i guess i just miss my status quo 90s x-men
>>338282747
All besides the first part of 3 are wrong, and that's really just because you're lazy.
>>338284547
Who is "you"?
>>338284640
PC cancer
Allow me to summarize PC as a gaming platform in a single paragraph.
Nickel and dime developers and publishers as often as possible with the dignified tradition of steam sales, unironically support hardware manufactures who contribute nothing to the gaming industry, kill the very platforms that do and sustain healthy creative development, entire studios and quality control within their own ecosystems. Actively participate in destroying, downplaying and ignoring the enormous wealth said platforms have given the industry spanning several decades through a proven model of hardware stability and infrastructure. Continuously over-saturate the market with absolute shovelware that effectively reduces the quality of good quality games across every platform. Beg for and simultaneously demonize the practice of contracted games because manufactures who are actually invested in the industry are able to get shit done by funding and developing them. Demonize publishers who cater to console platforms because without them, they literally don't exist. Embody the most cancerous ideology possible and release it's destructive behaviors on the video game industry and consumers at large by brainwashing them and literally building a platform on the basis of being superior to other people through hardware superiority and wearing what is considered petty behavior being console wars as a fucking badge of honor.
Tell me again why PC gaming isn't the most cancerous platform. I'll wait.
>>338284547
Nice strawman.
>>338284540
I wish I could go play vidya but I am at work right now.
>>338284759
Well if you're posting from work, fair enough. I am too. I just didn't think you were since you described your job as "demanding".
>>338282747
1. You can play PC games on your couch with whatever controller you want.
2. 99% of games will work fine, but with high profile shit like the Arkham Knight port I don't blame you for being worried about that.
3. Fair enough, though you don't have to buy new hardware all the time.
4. You can play games with a controller.
5. A good pc for games can be built for less than that, but you're right that consoles are cheaper initially.
>>338284602
My hands go numb when I rest my arms on a desk because I am lazy? I work 7 days a week so I don't have much time to play vidya because I am lazy?
You are fucking retarded.
>>338284991
Those aren't #3.
>>338282747
1.You can do that on PC
2.I don't get this one
3.It's not that hard to learn, shits easy and you don't have to buy new shit all the time.
4.Valid
5.500-800 dollars with get you a midrange PC able to run just about anything 108p 60fps
>>338284715
Who is "me"?
>>338282145
HAHAHAHA that shit looks horrible though, jesus OP.
Also
>implying most anons don't have a gaming PC + a console on the side
>>338285068
Your reading compression is awful.
>>338284991
It seems you're too lazy to count.
>>338285175
*you're
>>338284982
>consoles are cheaper initially
Nah. A $400 PC completely rocks console performance.
Pic here plays W3 and GTA V on ultra.
>>338282145
Dust your fucking floor
Where do I sign up to get indoctrinated into the master race?
No good exclusives
PC is pretty much a multiplat machine
>>338285361
Newegg
>>338285371
>No good exclusives
Subjective
>>338285346
What's the point? For that price i would rather buy a PS4 and play all the multiplats+exclusives.
>>338285371
Stellaris and Total War Warhammer just came out recently.
>>338285346
might aswell throw an intel as gpu and tell people that it can run crysis 3 on ulta in 4k
1. I like how gamepad feels in my hands
2. I love playing sitting on my couch
3. I can play with my gf, who wouldn't bother playing on keyboard + mouse
4. I don't care about slightly better graphics and fps (maybe I don't see it, idk)
5. Even 2-3 exclusives are better than nothing (not a strategy genre player)
>>338285589
Would rather play Gundam Breaker 3 instead of games where you don't actually do anything
>>338285548
>What's the point
Not having a company tell you how to play your games along with getting better performance and not having to pay for online along with cheaper games. Would you like more reasons or are you going to just shrug off everything I just said.
>>338285371
It's got an entire genre of exclusivity, though.
I personally don't like that genre, though.
>>338285746
I'd rather put forth an actual argument than shitpost constantly.
>>338285832
Sorry I don't feel like engaging in an argument of a blind fanboy that's the equivalent of Jehovah's fucking witness
>>338285745
Why are people completely ignorant of the fact you can use gamepads on PC?
>>338285745
1.You can do that on PC
2.You can do that on PC
3.You can do that on PC
4.They are actually not just slightly better, if you are watching youtube videos of graphics comparisons you would never be able to tell due to youtube butchering quality with compression
5.What do you mean "Nothing"
>>338285881
>no good exclusives
>here are some that just came out
>OH MY GOD STOP PRESSURING ME WAHHHH
>>338285926
It takes a slight bit more effort than consoles, so it's ignored.
PC has no games
And no, indie trash doesn't count since you can run that shit on a 10 year old laptop
>>338286031
>consoles have no le gaems
>except for the ones I want and will port beg for until i get them or else i'll call them shit xD
I like Sony exclusives and i dislike RTS games and FPS.
When PC can play Bloodborne or Persona at 60 FPS @4k i will switch.
>>338286075
Total War Warhammer literally comes out next week.
>>338285745
1. You can use a gamepad on your PC
2. 1.
3. 1.
4. Have you tried it? You'd be surprised how different it feels, but I know some people don't care much about FPS and that's okay.
5. That is a good point, while there are some indie games on PC that never hit consoles the big exclusive genre is strategy. There are some FPS games too though, such as ArmA but that is quite niche.
Ultimately, I think it's best that we all play how we like and just have fun.
Not worth the investment, given that I barely play games anymore.
There's also no chance of compatibility issues with a console; PCfags always ignore this. I put the game in, I play the game; end of story. No problems.
Witcher 3 looks do good on ultra. Any other graphically demanding games I should play to get full use out of my gtx 970?
>>338282747
>I like to know that I can buy a game and it will work
Only valid one.
>I like to sit on my couch
I know several people who have their computer plugged into their living room TV
>I don't have any desire to learn all about specs
So don't. Just go to some guide like logicalincrements that gives you a list of compatible parts in a price range you want and it'll last you a while. There are resources out there for you to use.
>or have to buy new shit all time
A friend of mine put together an $800 computer through logicalincrements in 2011 and he's still playing vidya on it just fine today. A couple more years and it'll have lasted as long as a console generation
>I have nerve problems so if I use a mouse and keyboard for too long my hands go number
There are multiple programs out these days that you can use that allow you to control your computer exclusively with the controller (The only one I remember the name of is Switchblade, which used to be free but isn't anymore). Then you can set it through msconfig to launch on startup so you never have to use your keyboard or mouse again. This all takes maybe 10 minutes of setup, tops. .
>I have a demanding job and barely enough time to play anything so spending $1000+ on a dust collector is stupid.
Spending $400 on a dust collector is also stupid, and you never have to spend over $1000 on PC unless you plan on maxing out at 4k resolution.
Even if you DO spend $1000 on a PC, you can get new games for 20% off through third party retailers, and don't have to pay to play them online. Let's compare numbers
>$1000 PC
>$48 new releases
>$2200 after 25 games
>$400 PS4
>$350 for enough PSN+ to play online for a generation
>$60 new releases
>$2250 after 25 games
>>338285926
I wonder this too.
I'm not some PCMR-spouting faggot, I have a Wii-U and understand why people would prefer consoles. But when people unironically put forth "gamepads" as a reason I have to wonder if they're from a 3rd world country or something.
>>338286137
I don't care for those kind of games one bit
But hey good for you
>>338286113
>consoles have no le gaems
Who said this anon? I think you're confusing me with someone else.
>>338285926
Used to play on pc before Ps4 came out
I agree that you can do that, but for example if I play battlefront or overwatch from my couch with a gamepad, then I will definitely suck against people with keyboard + mouse.
Plus I don't really want a corner in my apartment with a pc table + pc + monitor, when I can have a laptop for my pc working needs
>>338286075
>PC has no games
>>338286198
Yeah i sure do love buying license rentals from third parties that used stolen credit cards to get those cd keys
>>338286113
He never said consoles have no games.
I'm trying to build my first PC, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2m2YvK
My PC is in the study on the 2nd floor and the console is in the cave with a 50 inch screen and a kickass sound system.
I dunno, I guess I could somehow work something out but every time I go and sit down to play something on the PC, I get distracted with work stuff. So I boot up Civ 5 and while waiting for a map to load, I get stuff like "Oh, Mandy needs that invoice sent tomorrow", "I need to do the marketing materials for James later", and "I need to reply to emails soon". I play for five minutes before closing it down and do work stuff. I just can't clear my mind as easily as consoles do. Maybe I just associate the study as a "place to work" and the cave as a "place to relax". If this is true, then I'd like to keep it this way. No need to fuck with what works.Also I don't really care about nicer graphics or framerates
>it's another "people pretend to believe you can't use gamepads or connect a pc to a tv" episode
>it's another "caring about how other people play video games" episode
the only reason these threads exist is so pc players can falseflag retardation for sweet yous from unironic master race fags trying to be gabe's zealots in the platform war. i just came in here to say that op's build looks like an abomination.
>>338286258
So you admit it has games. You're making progress shitposter.
>>338286384
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2m2YvK
Looks good, get a 390x instead
Not an AMDumbfuck I'm just trying to help you. 390x is better. Unless you prefer Nvidia then go for it
>>338286156
On gf thing, for some reason she wouldn't play on pc cuz it's weird, while playing on console is completely okay.
But ofc I bought console before I had gf, so that is not the main reason for me switching from pc
>>338285790
Actually it's got multiple now.
Since Bemani threw in the towel for consoles, GOOD Rhythm games (not gooeyfag an hiro) are only on Arcade and PC.
Grand Strategy
RTS
Programming games
>>338286158
Except for mods :)
Enjoy the 2-3 mods you get on Fallout 4 console release since most everything now requires F4SE which consoles are incapable of running.
>>338285926
Willful ignorance
>>338286068
It doesn't at all :)
Nice lies though.
>>338286075
>you can run that shit on a 10 year old laptop
Are you implying that's a bad thing?
You claim PC users spend too much and that consoles last longer, then you argue that a game is crappy because it doesn't require the latest and greatest.
Sounds like you're just making excuses as a futile attempt to justify your own poor choices.
Stop trying to "convert" people, you are not some kind of jehovah witness. You fucks are annoying as fuck.
>>338285173
It wouldn't be so bad if not for that atrocious half-assed loop
The case is too small as is for that loop
>>338286384
Thought the gtx 970 was 3gb, weird.
>>338286381
I know how you typical mustard shitters are.
YOu scream about consoles having no games, then scream when they have games you awnt and claim it's anti consumer for exclusives to exist, all the while defending pc exclusives.
>>338286384
Looks good anon, I checked and the CPU/RAM are compatible with the motherboard. Other than that, GPU/HDD/SSD are pretty much plug and play and compatible with most recent motherboards that have the necessary slots.
>>338285142
yeah you can wireless mice/Big Picture Mode exists
>>338286578
3.5 retard
>>338286359
If you're talking about switchblade, like I said there are alternatives out there, I just don't remember the names of them. I just brought that one up so people can get an idea of what the fuck i'm talking about
>>338286626
I have a gtx 970 and its 3gb
>>338286384
>>338286545
I don't play Fallout.
See, PC can only do this, play AAA multiplat trash on higher settings.
>>338285371
FTL is pretty great
>>338286668
No it isn't you fucking idiot
>>338286517
>implying your gf would be able to tell the difference between a console os and steam big picture
>>338286156
Yeah, I know about games like Arma, but with limited time they don't really appeal to me. The only games that I play on my laptop are hearthstone and civilization 5. Both of which run great on it.
Might buy a better laptop though, just don't have a legit reason to do that yet.
>>338286547
>pointing out all the bullshit and ignorance people sling about is "trying to convert them"
>>338286517
That's pretty odd, but the placebo effect does happen. What games have you tried? It is true that some older games have poor support for gamepads, which can lead to some pretty janky gameplay.
>>338282145
NO MOM YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
I NEED A FULL TOWER
Lets test how pc fats respond to this list of games coming out next month
>Guilty Gear Revelator
>Star Ocean 5
>I am Setsuna
>Atelier Sophie
>Grand Kingdom
>Odin Sphere Remake
>#FE
>>338286691
When PC exclusives are brought up you just say they're shit anyway. poor little babby scared of strategy games.
>>338286668
seriously, how do you not even know knowledge that was one of the biggest memes in the last 5 years?
>>338282145
I play both. My PC is lagging behind because there haven't been any games I want to play that warrant upgrading.
>>338286815
I personally love the fuck out of Arma 3
Why does every console kiddy dismiss it?
Is it too complex for them?
>>338286810
pcfat here. all video games are shit. especially that list of literally who weeb games.
>>338286761
Mortal kombat, then I also gave her to try batman arkham origins
>>338286887
Just shitposting man. These threads aren't made for anything else.
>>338286810
Aside from GG, I don't know what any of those are
>>338286810
>will be on PC soon
>High chance of being ported to PC
>same as above
>KT is big on PC, will be ported soon enough
>what's that?
>Emulatable for years now
>#FE
>>338282145
Because if the main advantage if PC gaming is power, the ability to play games on high end graphics on Full HD with 60 FPS. Then why would I settle for anything less? And there lies the problem for me, a mindset like that means a very expensive PC.
>>338286810
>guilty gear is shit now
>jrpgs are shit
>jrpgs are shit
>jrpgs are shit
>jrpgs are shit
>jrpgs are shit
>jrpgs are shit
>>338286810
Could you possibly post a list any more weeb?
>anime posting
Oh my bad, you're a special kind of guy
>>338286691
>see, consoles can only do this, play AAA multiplat trash on lower settings
???
>>338286778
Nothing wrong with a full tower
>>338286810
Some of those look fun, but Sony is holding them hostage and I don't negotiate with terrorists. Even if the ransom is only $300
>>338287023
>>338286976
Port begging and shitposting because you can't play them
As expected
Have equally huge baclog on pc and ps4
Enjoy both, have absolutely zero regrets purchasing either, getting best of two worlds
>>338286810
All shit except for Odin Sphere.
Let's see how you respond now:
>XCOM 2
>Stellaris
>Total War: Atilla
>Total War: Warhammer
>Civilization 6
>>338286824
>>338286729
My bad I have the 970m, it's 3GB. Weird that the mobile version is different.
>>338286691
And consoles play AAA trash on lower settings.
>>338287076
It can also play actual good exclusives like Bloodborne, Persona, Uncharted, The Last of Us and much more.
>>338286761
She told me that she used to play Gothic games a lot(never played it myself though), so she is playing Witcher 3 a lot now, which is good I guess.
Might be that she had some bad experience with pc before, idk, never really cared too much to ask.
>>338287009
Except it doesn't at all.
Now if you want 4K/60fps or 1440p/144fps you're going to need some hardware, even for lower settings.
But 1080p/60, a console priced PC will do that on any game at better than console settings.
>>338286957
Interesting, I've never tried either of those so I can't really comment.
In the end, you play what you enjoy and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. There is more to life than arguing about console preferences, when we should be sharing what we enjoy about games.
Have a good day anon.
>>338287206
>Weird that the mobile version is different.
kys my man
>>338287112
They're all the same, arent they? You play one of them, you've played them all.
Tropico 5 is on consoles. That is better and more fun than any of those.
>>338287231
you're gonna need to be more subtle if you want to keep getting my yous.
>>338287325
This is just sad. By this logic every game on consoles is the same.
>>338287227
See
>>338287231
When was the last time PC had a exclusive as good as Bloodborne? Half Life 2 maybe? and no, RTS shit are not actual games.
>>338287074
>>338287112
So if i like japanese games why are you trying to convert me to a platform with little to no japanese games?
>>338287269
Thanks, you too
My friends tried to convert me back a few times, but I'm a casual now
>>338282145
Actual PC fag here.
I don't give a shot what you play on. There's games for everyone
To be quite honest family I play my consoles more than my PC (WiiU, 3DS and PS4)
Majority of games coming out these days have really poor performance and it's getting annoying with the shit optimisation.
I have a i7 3770k a GTX 980 and 32GB Ram and some of the games run like absolute shit, especially the newer ones.
>>338286493
I'm not shitposting I'm talking from experience
I only own a PC, no consoles
The only consoles I ever owned were NES and PS3 and that was years ago
I got my gaming PC a year ago or so and it just hasn't been working out
Yes games are cheaper because of steam sales and yea there's a lot of games to play, but they're all shit so fuck does that matter?
Of course something good comes out once in a while, like the new DOOM but hey, that's also on a console at 60 fps
PC gets most console games ported to it but sometimes it takes literally years
Like dragons dogma for example
And that whole thing about "it's a better experience 60 fps, ultra graphics" is absolute shit that insecure pc fags spread on everyone and it disgust me
The amount of money you need to spend on a fucking PC to get that is insane and something the regular man shouldn't waste money on if he's got a brain
But hey, if you do rake in an insane amount of money, then surely games will run well?
Well go look at batman arkham knight. Go look at the new homefront. Go look at XCOM2 (which is pc only mind you)
It sucks, and yes you can blame the devs and it is on them, but on consoles, you know what you're getting because they're all the same
It also sucks how pc's have awful backwards compatibility
Running old games is a huge hassle sometimes and that just sucks
Before you call me a shitposter, point out one thing I said that's wrong
>>338287206
mobile versions have to make sacrifices to meet the smaller form factor. You can't run them at crazy clock speeds because they'd need some serious cooling, and there isn't enough room for that. And since the lower speed is bottlenecking it, then putting more RAM than it could realistically put to use in most situations is a waste of money on the manufacturer's end
>>338287260
That's the biggest meme.
I can't even get gta v run on console-equivalent settings at constant 60fps with my GTX 970
At least on ps4 the framerate's consistent and there aren't any frame pacing issues like on pc when you enable half vsync.
>>338287402
>When was the last time PC had a exclusive as good as Bloodborne
really setting the bar low here. id have to go see what released in the last couple minutes to answer.
>>338287402
>RTS shit are not actual games.
I love this meme.
>>338287390
How though? RTS games are like skins of one game. You control units and you direct them to attack the other team. Same with FPS games. It's just a pair of arms floating with a gun shooting the enemy. How original.
>>338287402
Every half life came out on consoles
>>338287472
Yea this sucks
No matter how good your pc is, it doesn't matter if the devs don't care to optimize it
>>338287436
I wasn't aware we were trying to convert anybody just having a discussion. Also didn't know you were asking for exclusively jap games, could ask next time.Japs also can't into strategy apparently.
>>338287206
970m has lower performance than a desktop stock 960
>>338282145
I've been a pc gamer since 1995. MSN the zone anyone?
>>338282145
>external radiator
>those long runs of tubing
>670
>cooler master
>ITX motherboard in an ATX chassis
>no overclock
>>338287472
You almost had me. Fucking bait
>>338287402
>Half Life 2
Even this was not a exclusive.
PC is fucking dead. Only good to play AAA Bethesda/Activision/EA trash on high settings or indie pixelshit.
Meanwhile consoles get actual good games.
>>338287513
That makes sense, thanks for explaining.
>>338287260
It literally fucking won't you brainwashed piece of shit
Console versions of games are optimized to the max since the devs know that every console will have the same exact hardware, so they work around it
There's so many things to take in for pc's that what you're saying isn't possible and won't happen
People say shit like
>A 5 year old pc is stronger than the PS4!
And yet, that 5 year old fucking PC can't run any new games at all
It's not about the power of the hardware it's how the devs optimize taking it into account
>>338287665
Explains why I had to overclock it. Still can run witcher 3 on ultra around 40-60fps so can't complain to much.
>>338287816
>PC is dead
It's actually more profitable than ever
Brings in more money than consoles too
>>338287494
>XCOM2
Its problem was poor optimization. It wasn't broken or anything.
>It also sucks how pc's have awful backwards compatibility
Far and away better than consoles m8.
You're also completely ignoring the exclusives that PC does have. Not sure why you built a pc for gaming if you weren't into Insurgency, ARMA, Civ, Total War, or whatever other exclusive you're pretending doesn't exist.
Just ordered this. Did I fuck up?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LHjtxr
>>338287260
Anon you don't understand, I don't want console settings on my PC. I want Ultra, I want to play games like Witcher 3 and Total Warhammer on Ultra with 60 Frames per Second at full HD. But in order to get results like that I need something like GTX 980 which aren't cheap, I also might need the i7-6700K which again is not on the cheap end of PC hardware. Then throw in a big flashy case like Cooling Master Stryker which again are not on the cheap end.
The build which I hope to get after the summer is going to cost 2 209.32, why? Because Ultra on full hd with 60 FPS
>>338287953
For trash like dots or Heartstone, not actual videogames
There hasn't been a single big abd impactful multiplat title that sold best on pc
>>338288074
>full hd
What did he mean by this
>>338282145
>mini ITX in a full tower
Why
>>338287547
First off, Xcom and Stellaris aren't RTS. Second, they play very differently. Just compare Total War battles to something like Command and Conquer or Dawn of War.
The only thing lazily being reskinned are your dimwitted shitposts.
>>338287953
Yeah, Heartstone cards and Wow/Lol fees.
>>338288107
Because they are all shit
Dark souls 3 sold 40% of the 8 million sales on pc
>have a desktop mid tier soon to be high tier once my 1080 ships
>and a laptop for on the go and streaming
>and a ps4
>and a vita
>and a pstv
>and a ps3
>and a modded Wii U for Wii and gamecube games
>and an Xbox one
>and a girlfriend
What am I missing?
>>338288139
A resolution of 1920*1080
>>338288238
And your source is?
>>338288239Offspring.
>>338287915
>Console versions of games are optimized to the max
Not strictly true. If it's multiplat, it will have to make concessions to make the game run for both consoles. That means it will run less well than an exclusive. See: FFXV demo and whatever exclusives both consoles have. Of course that means nothing if the exclusive developer is garbage.
>>338288238
False. 3m first month sales on PS4. Steamspy has like 800k DS3 users only.
>>338288320
Haha no. I already got a vasectomy
>>338288187
But I though PC was dead anon>>338288107
Stop moving the goalpost
>>338282589
4chan is not to be obsessed with and here you are.
>>338287974
>Its problem was poor optimization.
That was my point
>Far and away better than consoles m8.
My PS2 will always be able to play PS2 games, my PS3 also and so on
It's not hard to just put your old console away and games too and keep them to play old games at some later point
Keeping my old PC around just so I can play some old ass games without worry isn't as inviting as you're looking to upgrade your old rig, not keep it
That's what I meant
And no I'm not into any of those games as they're all shit. Just my opinion on them tho
Rapespawn normie fag here,
Do any of you anons know if I can run Witcher 1 on my shitty All-in-one? I want to get into pc gaming, but I'm a sort of a dumbass who doesn't know how any of the technical shit works.
>>338288248
Isn't that just HD?
>>338288291
http://wccftech.com/dark-souls-series-sold-8-million-copies-40-pc/
And counting
>>338288384
Alright, anon, mobiles are a savior of vidya by your logic.
>>338288181
How are they different? It's just top down view, select unit, build units, drag to select multiple, click to move, right click to attack, win game.
>>338287494
>Of course something good comes out once in a while, like the new DOOM but hey, that's also on a console at 60 fps
playing doom with a controller
>PC gets most console games ported to it but sometimes it takes literally years
Like dragons dogma for example
dragons dogma was almost unplayable on consoles with the frame drops it would have.
>And that whole thing about "it's a better experience 60 fps, ultra graphics" is absolute shit
i mean i'm not saying you can't enjoy a game with shittier settings but i don't even understand the logic behind saying that higher fps and higher graphics doesn't make for a better experience
>The amount of money you need to spend on a fucking PC to get that is insane
it really isn't 800 dollars is not a lot of money. i was building pcs when i was 14 and worked part time at a drug store. i also don't see what so insane about already having a pc and just buying a 400 dollar graphics card. are you not going to have a pc because you have a console?
>But hey, if you do rake in an insane amount of money, then surely games will run well?
i mean i see you have some examples but i personally haven't run into this issue in a long ass time. plus usually if a game is poorly optimized i can still run it above 30fps and 900p or whatever the fuck the game runs on console.
>It also sucks how pc's have awful backwards compatibility
i guess since i just know how to use a pc and have always found them interesting this was never really a problem for me. googling "how to get game x to run on windows x" and then downloading and configuring dosbox is not a big deal for me. and just trying to point backwards compatability as a flaw against pc when the alternative is consoles is odd.
>Before you call me a shitposter, point out one thing I said that's wrong
you're not a shitposter, anon. you should just switch back to consoles. pc is clearly not for you.
>>338288350
True but in most cases they just make the game look worse to get a stable framerate
>>338288410
>Keeping my old PC around just so I can play some old ass games without worry
Which games would you need this for? I'm not aware of any games where this is required.
My pc is basically an indie/rts machine with the odd shooter. My ps4 is for exclusives. My 3ds is for monhun but fuck handhelds.
>>338288438
Yes, but that's how it was marketed when HD started to become a thing. 1920*1080 was full HD while 1080*720 was HD ready
It stuck with me
>>338282145
Honestly if DX12 ever becomes the norm console gaming will be my only viable future.
>>338287815
Not bait.
Seriously
>>338288371
>more people are eating shit because it's cheaper and easier to get than real food
>that must mean shit is the superior meal
you're not really making any good points here
>>338288613
What? why?
>>338282145
i have i5 haswell OC, 980 ti and SSD. I'm living the life
>>338288695
I hate Windows 10 with a burning passion.
>>338288693
I'm just saying DS3 didn't sell more on PC
>>338285468
Name a recent good exclusive that is available now.
>>338288371
Steamspy doesn't count everyone
>>338288695
Because DX12 only works on Windows 10
>>338288792
Nobody said it sold more on PC though
Improve you're reading comprehension
>>338288586
Why cant they just reduce the resolution and keep the texture quality the same.
>>338288805
>What is dualbooting
Did that, KI was 100% worth the hassle
>>338288803
Stellaris
i have both because i'm not a poor retard. also i love the posts that come in here stating "this 450 dollar pc can run crysis max settings." you lying sack of shits lol
>>338288562
>i mean i see you have some examples but i personally haven't run into this issue in a long ass time
>i-it's not true
Very nice reply
You don't get to ignore factual things
XCOM 2 still runs like shit even on the best pc's out there
The new homefront doesn't have a stable framerate
Arkham knight wasn't fixed in the ages they had to do it
So yea, you saying
>didn't happen to me!
Doesn't mean shit you cunt
>>338288803
>good
Once again, that's subjective
I think asseto corsa and Arma 3 are fun as fuck but you may not
>>338282145
My internet is shit so I can't download games easily, and everything is online now.
That is literally it, I love PC gaming, and I wish I could keep doing it, but shit 3g internet speeds have forced me to stop.
>>338288992
You have to be 18 or older to post here anon
>>338288803
Why are exclusives a good thing? PC gets "exclusives" from both PS4 and Xbox. Exclusives only exist because MS and Sony literally throw money at developers to make them stay one their platform. If they didn't, almost all games would be multiplat, or at least PC since consoles are literally PC's with a corporate walled garden OS.
>>338289090
How do you handle console firmware updates then holy shit that's some bad internet
>>338288595
Of course you're not when you're 14
>>338288924
Don't know
It's really amazing what they can do with such old hardware
People behind it are magic workers with the things they pull
>>338289090
Don't console games require 5-10 gb patches just to start these days? (and 20 min installation times, wut?)
>>338288803
Why the fuck do you people like cutting off the market from others?
I like it when every platform gets a game becuase it some ways exclusives are fucking up the industry.
>windows 10
>only exclusives to speak of are shit like 5 Nights Freddy, Gone Home, Undertale, and shitty mobas & mmorpgs
>poorly optimized and sometimes unplayable ports (such as Evil Within, the last Batman game, and Assassins Creed)
>hackers are much more pervasive
>if you legally buy games you need to install DRM like Origin, if you illegally pirate them you're installing bitcoin mining software hidden in the code
>>338289009
>le stutter meme it's not true
that's not what i said though you dunce. they are very factual. some games are poorly optimized. i could point to all kinds of shit on consoles. if you're implying that when a pc game dipping to 45 frames is worse than when a console game dips to 14 frames somehow then you're an idiot. minute long load screens in bloodborne, buggy as shit fallout 3 on console, dragons dogma dropping frames like crazy when ever there is more than 1 spell being cast.
so yeah, misrepresenting what i said and then being retarded doesn't make what i said invalid.
>>338289152
They're a good thing because exclusives NEED to be good games
If they're not, the system won't sell
PC faggots disgust me, altho I'm one myself
I saw that fag totalbusicuit literally cry for bloodborne to come to PC, when the only reason it even exists is sony wanting a good game on their console
What an entitled cunt
>>338289281
>Of course you're not when you're 14
Do you have any examples or are you just going to continue to shitpost? I can play Secret of Monkey island on my current PC right now. That's a game from 1990. Where are these old games that are hard to run? How far back can you go with your console?
>>338289361
True, but it's not all bad, MS and Sony are paying a lot of money for exclusives enabling poorer developers to make bigger games.
>>338282145
>>338289354
Some do. Uncharted 4 requires a 5GB day one patch or else it won't even start.
Installation times is a non-issue on the PS4 but it seems it's more of an issue on the Xbone. I've never had to wait more than a minute or two before playing a new game on the PS4. It just installs whatever you need to start the game first then installs the rest in the background.
>>338289535
Meanwhile cutting off the market from others, I have always thought that exclusives were fucked up. They are essentially paying developers to say "Hey you I don't want you to play on this cansole"
>>338289219
>>338289354
Slowly. But most updates are enough that I just leave my console on for an hour or two then come back.
Better than leaving my PC on for over 12 hours.
>>338289152
Exclusives benefit from utilizing the system's specifications and hardware the most, have better production value and usually have special treatment from the publishers (console holder) resulting in a higher quality of the final games.
But you wouldn't know that being a PC-only fag and all
>>338289682
You can play games while you install you know
>>338286384
Looks decent, may want to look at the 390X
However you may want to consider waiting a month because AMD and NVidia are launching their new cards soon and they should be significantly better than the current gen
>>338289654
How is that bad? Obviously the devs and publishers decided that it makes more business sense to take any alleged exclusivity deals than going it alone and releasing it as a multiplat. Moneyhatting exclusives enables games that would otherwise take longer to release or not getting released at all due to the risk to be released. It's all good, nigga.
>>338285548
What's the point? For that price i would rather buy a PC and play all the multiplats+exclusives (pc and some from both xbone and ps4) and emulate games and mod them and not have to pay for online and have true backwards compatibility and customize my graphic settings
>>338289752
Tru. Most console games don't even need much of an install anyway. GTAV was the biggest I saw at 15 minutes.
Because I'm waiting for the new nvidia/amd cards before I build one. Already got £375 in the bank waiting, and my brothers birthday is this July and he's willing to buy my Xbone off me for another £300. By that time I'll know what new gpus are out and be able to buy a decent build with £700 or so ish. Plus the console mid cycle upgrade will have pissed me off enough to bite the bullet.
>>338289009
XCom has been fixed
Arkham Knight has been fixed
Homeworld will probably be fixed.
I remember when Witcher 3 came out and I got 30-40 fps with drops, now it's 50+ on all ultra settings. I've seldom seen console games gain such an improvement to performance.
>>338286158
There's also no chance of compatibility issues with a console; PCfags always ignore this. I put the game in, I play the game; end of story. No problems.
They ignore it when it's convenient to do so for an argument. I saw a huge thread the other day by PC gamers about how their games always have issues but as soon as a console war swings around they pretend PC's are flawless and problem free.
>>338282145
Because I don't understand any of the technical shite that comes along as baggage. Why can't I run this game? what hurdles do I have to jump over to get this shit to work? Man, I'm just some asshole who welds stuff for a living, how am I supposed to figure out whether or not I meet the system requirements?
It all boils down to the average normiefag like myself being too technically inept/just can't be bothered to decipher any of this shit. Consoles are simple: cram in the disk and play.
>>338290173
Bad ports can occasionally result in stuff like poor optimization, or poor options available without getting balls deep in config files and shit. These things happen, but games like Arkham Knight that are literally are rare as fuck.
>>338290173
tru dat.
>>338289738
Console exclusive optimization is not all that. Usually it matters more if the developer is competent or not. There are exclusives that drop frames just as much as multiplats and there are multiplats that run great on any system.
>>338290173
If you aren't retarded and assemble your computer properly there are no issues
I've honestly never had an issue with games besides when my idiot friends overclock is too high and his games keep crashing
>>338289931
>XCom has been fixed
Still runs like shit
So does arkham
Also it's "homefront" not homeworld
>>338289931
>50+
I don't get people like you. Playing with framerate all over the place is literally worse than playing at fixed 30fps.
The Witcher 3 is particularly a bad example considering it has terrible frame pacing issues when looking to 30fps, it feels much worse than on Xone or PS4
>>338282145
1. I don't like to limit myself. Instead of "switching to pc gaming" I have PC for (some) multiplats and all of the major consoles (PS3, X360, PS4, WiiU, 3DS, Vita) for exclusives.
2. In the #1 point I said "some multiplats" for a reason. Lately PC gamers have been getting a lot of shit ports, that, while could be considered multiplat, play better on one of the consoles.
3. While I do have mid-to-high range PC (W3 on Ultra), it's really inconveniet to upgrade that shit. Consoles upgrades are easy, I just buy new unit at the beginning of the new generation. With PC I have to bother with researching pros and cons of various specifications, how the hardware will interact, which hardware version is best for me etc.
4. I'm not really an autist who could spend hours comparing Very High vs Ultra or drop the game just because it does not render at 60FPS, for me graphics are not really important as long as the game is playable and fun.
5. I don't give a shit about console / PC wars, I don't give a shit about opinions of faggots who claim that X is better than Y, I just want to have fun playing my games (and that's what I do).
>>338290548
>Still runs like shit
Maybe on your potato
>>338288050
Overall not bad.
Would've gone for a Hitachi 7K2000 2TB for the same price and lower failure rate than the WD Blue.
Would've gone R9 380x instead of 960 for roughly the same price and better perf, or just waited til the new series of cards come out next month.
Not sure about the PSU, doesn't seem like a reliable brand, but I don't know too much about those...
6.5/10 not horrible
>>338290173
>pc gamers on /v/
>all having issues
i believe it. judging from every "hows this build guys" thread and "post your speccy" thread everyone here is a tech illiterate 13 year old. i mean jesus fuck. look at OPs pic in this thread.
PC just doesn't have any of the games i like. i wish i could just get a pc and be able to play all the vidya, but most of the stuff i like is console exclusive. soz masterrace broz
>>338287402
>RTS shit are not actual games.
kek
>>338290954
>>338288992
Samefag
>>338282145
Western games don't interest me so consoles are the way to go.
>>338288929
Dualbooting doesn't stop Windows 10's root vulnerability from being exploited
Dualbooting doesn't stop all the spyshit from going on.
>>338291073
not even close, retard
I have one point i would like to discuss.
Like many said, consoles usually get better optimizations, but there is the following:
When you try to optimizate for one thing for different hardwares, It becomes exponencially hard and usually you have to make sacrifices in both ends. That is why we dont always see good pc optimizations.
Now with the new ps4k, there will be 2 different hardware the devs will have to work arround.
I can see the big exclusives to be well optimized for both, but do you expect ALL devs to do a a proper job on this?
If this happens to become a trend, one new console every 3 years slightly better than the other, It wont be long to consoles to be completely pc-fied.
>>338291173
No but just turning it off in the setup does
Moron
>>338291173
Oh pls, anon. Think that Win 7 doesn't send your CP folders to Microsoft?
If you're so paranoid, just use it for games
A build I hope to get by the summers end, I just hope that the 900 series gets a price drop when the 1000 series launches in summer.
>>338282145
Because I still dont give a shit what 4chan says
>>338282145
I play both, but primarily game on console because my normie friends all game on console and it's just there in my living room. Occasionally the PC scratches an itch that the console can't and I go hop on Red Orchestra 2 or something.
Also I haven't upgraded my PC in about 2 years so it probably can't run everything now.
>>338290567
>I don't get people like you. Playing with framerate all over the place is literally worse than playing at fixed 30fps.
agreed. drop settings until you get 60 or lock it at 30. wtf is wrong with people. async/gsync soon
>>338291321
Console exclusive optimization is a myth. It matters infinitely more if the developer is competent and can make cheap assets that look good. Overwatch looks great on any toaster and any setting while Ass. Creed Unity chugged on the beefiest computers. It's because Blizzard are smart and competend and use small teams while Ubisoft made Unity with 2000 people and with a size and codebase that large finding spots to optimize and fixing bugs becomes a nightmare.
>>338291323
You actually can't. Even if you go in and manually block all microsoft's addresses, they're hard coded into a critical system dll file.
And you completely ignored the other point where a virus or hacker could access root and do literally anything to your computer. With that kind of low-level access it could even manually manipulate hardware
>>338291286
>Doesn't screenshot
Confirmed samefag
Go back to funnyjunk faggot
>>338291852
>Console exclusive optimization is a myth
Show me a game with Uncharted's visuals running on ps4-equivalent pc
Hellshow, me a ps3 equivalent pc that can boot up GTAV at all
>>338291410
>buying a 980ti before you even see benches for the 1070
>internal soundcard instead of an external dac/amp.
>a gaming branded motherboard
>everything else i don't like but is subjective or debatable
reconsider
>>338291323
>"Just turn it off!"
It doesn't work that way
>You can stop your machine from sending contact and calendar details, typing and speech data, location data and even error and diagnostic reports. Unfortunately, no matter how many boxes you uncheck, Microsoft is still going to collect information from your computer, whether you know it or not.
>While setting up a fresh copy of Windows 10 Enterprise Edition on VirtualBox, the user went through and disabled all three pages of tracking options, one by one. He then left the computer running for eight hours overnight, and returned to find that Windows 10 had attempted to contact 51 Microsoft IP addresses 5,508 times.
>After 30 hours, over 112 IP addresses had been contacted.
>>338292043
not him but i hope this is bait.
>>338292084
1070 is not going to be better than the 980ti
That's pretty obvious
The 1080 was designed to compete with the 980ti and it's only 10-15% better
>>338292076
Doesn't matter if they did show you a game with visuals better than uncharted, you would just deny and say that they are worse. It's not worth anyones time.
>>338285346
>GTA5 on ultra
bull shit
My r9 285/fx6300 plays GTA5 at absolute lowest 1080p 30fps
>tfw bonus check just came in and Im gonna splurge it on absolutely unnecessary stuff
>>338292176
>not him
>still doesn't capitalize i's
It's pretty easy to pick you out you fucking idiot
>>338292084
I am reconsidering, like I said I hope to get it after summer so I got plenty of time to think about it. But to answer some of your points
>buying a 980ti before you even see benches for the 1070
And unless the 1070 costs as much as 980ti does now I won't buy it. I'm already pushing over 2000 dollars with this thing.
>internal soundcard instead of an external dac/amp.
I don't know the pro or cons of both
>a gaming branded motherboard
I heard that they are good, especially for gaming. Won't do much for performance but does great in everything else
>>338291741
Max payne 3 had a similar system. It would lock itself to 30 unless i could run 60.
I Actually didnt notice It at first and played the whole game on 30. Then i turned off, and even with 50 frames average the 40 to 55 fluctuation actually broke a lot of the flow of the game. I couldnt play anymore
No drop >>> high average
>>338292306
Because that build is much better than yours anon
>>338292270
>Doesn't matter if they did show you a game with visuals better than uncharted, you would just deny and say that they are worse. It's not worth anyones time.
No, I'm legit curious cause I play on both pc and consoles
The only example I can think of is Crysis but I still not sure it can surpass the visuals of Uncharted on ps4 equivalent rig
The point of GTAV on ps3 stands as well
