Just so we're all clear
Ultimate DOOM > DOOM (2016) > DOOM 64 > DOOM 2 > DOOM 3
>he doesn't like doom2
>he has never played Skull tag once in his life
Get the fuck off my board you nigger
Where's Final Doom? it may have been bad but it still had its moments like the truck.
>>338272153
I do like it, for me there is a comparably small gap between everything and then there's doom 3
I don't know if it's better than 2, but it sure as fuck is superior to 3. Doom 3 at this point seems so off in comparison, like what were they even going for.
>falling for the "doom 64 is good" meme
>falling for the "doom 2 is bad because the maps are bad" meme
>>338272061
I want to fuck the new barons.
Gameplay wise and general hype, new Doom is better than old Doom, it's literally perfection
Ultimate DOOM > DOOM (2016) > DOOM 2 >>> DOOM 64 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOOM 3
I am not on that DOOM 64 bandwagon meme that it was amazing, it was okay at best and I went back to playing classic DOOM everytime.
>>338272061
switch 2016 with 2 and were cool.
also
>no final doom
Replaying ultimate doom on UV and the lack of SSG makes it kind of annoying to fight anything bigger than an imp desu
>>338275230
it has much better level design than 2 does. I'm saying this as someone who's first doom game was 2 and only recently played 64.
>>338275230
good taste
>>338275031
Doom 2 is an excellent installment in the franchise, introduced the double barrel and iconic enemies. I also like almost all its maps, yes even the city one. But 1 is overall a more polished game and it takes the cake.
>>338275031
This. Half of Doom 2's maps are good, and the new monsters and super shot gun allow for some really good encounters.
Doom 1 is kinda bland, not in that it's boring for a new player, its just not too difficult after User Wads have taken Doom 2's balance, done it better, and have refined it further for around 20 years.
Just how much of Dom changes with minor weapon tweaks is insane. Valiant for example, with its new monsters like rocket Barron's, faster firing imps, pyro knights, and cyber brains that crawl out of their spider legs when they die to another you like high DPS cacodemons. It also buffs the pistol and chaingun so you can deal with high numbers of enemies right off the bat, as well as stunlock large groups of them later on.
Also the AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH from serious Sam make an appearance.
>>338275584
Finding a chainsaw in ultimate doom is way more a joyful event then in 2.
>>338275741
the new enemies and the ssg far outweigh the shitty maps seeing the best doom maps are all fanmade wads anyway
>>338272061
Fuck off shill.
No one want to play fucking Doom (tm); all rights reserved subject to limitations.
>>338275893
the chainsaw is completely usless in both games
What about Brutal Doom?
>>338276006
pretty useful for clearing pinkies out in 1 tbqh pham
>>338275046
I wanted shaggy hindquarters, not hard shell
>>338276006
Nah, it's pretty much your go to for pinkies and cacos in Ultmate Doom.
>>338276261
the stun chance is random you're more than likely to be hit especially by cacodemons
Why the fuck are people putting Doom 2016 above Doom 64?
I just beat Doom 64 last night and it was insanely fucking good.
If new Doom had good multiplayer and proper mod support it would be better than OG Doom.
>>338276006
Not really. In 2 you have the ssg, but in ultimate doom it's really handy with some enemies.
Doom 2 > Doom > Doom 64 > new Doom > Doom 3
>>338276426
Too bad snapmap and the multiplayer is godawful so the game's not worth 60 buckaroos
>>338276426
>13 enemies
>>338276367
If you get them in the butt, between the time it takes for them to turn around and the stun they're pretty unlikely to ever hit you.
Granted I would only do it if there's only one of them and nothing else is trying to kill you at the moment, but it will save you some shotgun shells.
Think they'll make snapmap better with updates?
Playing through on Hard atm. Wew lads, this game's kicking my balls, any tips on what weapons to upgrade?
>>338276479
Yea shame.
>>338276518
>13 enemies
>13 enemies that manages to be a lot more intense, threatening and challenging than the highest enemy count in Doom 1
I don't give a fuck about the count of enemies, Doom 2016's enemies are fucking fun to fight.
Come back to me when Pinkys, Cacos, Barons etc. don't move at a fucking snails pace.
>>338276596
what could be better about it? all you can do is make generic as fuck levels by snapping hallways together. the levels in the new doom suck anyway, it's a play-once-and-forget-about sort of game like all other modern shooters
>There are STILL people who don't believe that this is the same Doomguy from 1, 2 and 64
They actually think he's some legendary superhero instead of that being a legend that demons built around this one marine
>>338276708
they're only intense because every enemy in nu-doom kills you in one hit
>>338276623
Combat Shotgun - Explosive Shot
Assault Rifle - Micro Missles
Plasma Rifle - Stun Grenade
Rocket Launcher - Either
Chaingun - Mobile Turret
Gauss Cannon - Siege Mode
If you're just talking single player game, I think the fact that the original doom 1 still brings the excitement is really impressive
doom2 is the standard for all modding, deathmatch, and tons of really great monsters
Just put doom 2 in second place, and the list is fixed
>>338276768
>it's a play-once-and-forget-about sort of game like all other modern shooters
I agree completely. What made 2 so good to this day is the continual stream of awesome wads.
>>338275189
I don't think it's better but it's surprisingly close. Certainly as close anyone has ever come
I haven't played a campaign this well-paced since RE4. I sat down to play and only left after 5 hours. Then came back the next day and finished it in 6-7 more. That a game like this can manage to not get repetitive is just incredible
I really liked the new enemy placement in the levels for the PlayStation port of Doom I wish there was a pc port. Doom 1 with Doom 2 enemies and no SSH made for a very interesting and challenging experience at some points
>>338276931
And they move faster
And they have proper vertical movement
And they attack frequently
And they can their attacks vary
And they maneuver into places unexpected
And because they have different behaviors so they don't all single file down a corridor for you
>>338277000
level design in fps games is basically dead
it takes a team of trained artists months to build maps that would be the quivalent to square box arenas in the original doom
>>338277072
There is, you just gave me a reason to try it.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/57957-psx-doom-final-doom-tc-version-2-135-now-released/
>>338277145
well thats the kind of reasoning that led to halo, which I hope we can admit was never as good as doom
intelligent individual enemy design is not as important as the emergent design that comes from smart enemy placement and good central gimmicks
I'd rather play a map where a guy knows where to put imps, than create a new type of imp that does 5 different things
>>338277145
it's true, it would be great if someone made an actual doom game with these enemies, but it's a stupid modern shooter with locked door arenas, difficulty level only increases enemy damage, stupid stat upgrades and obligatory finishers on every enemy to restore your health
>>338272061
Doom2 > Doom Ultimate > Doom 3 > Doom (2016) > shit > lizard piss > doom 64
>>338277397
>Doom 3
>better than lizard piss
Explain yourself mister.
>>338276985
doom 2 should come first.
>>338276708
>I do not know what fast enemies or higher difficulties for DOOM 1 and 2: the post
Easier doesn't mean more fun to fight for everyone. Besides NuDoom plays like and was obviously inspired by Brutal Doom, everyone here who thought NuDoom was the cats pajamas will really enjoy that BD. Makes things easier just like this game, more gore for gore hounds, etc.
>>338276176
Is a mod not a game, else it would be first.
>>338277223
Wow thanks, hope you enjoy it. You'll see stuff like revenants in E1M6
>>338277603
>NuDoom
omfs, the summerfaggot speech kills me from inside
>>338277313
>I'd rather play a map where a guy knows where to put imps, than create a new type of imp that does 5 different things
Oh yes because that godlike design of put 5 imps behind a door next to a Blue Keycard that when the player picks up the Keycard there's 5 imps walking around like faggots and start shooting each other in the back is just ingenious right?
Doom is great, was fantastic for it's time but it's not design perfection enemy placement was heavily flawed in certain levels and some levels were total garbage too.
>>338272061
DooM > TNT > DooM 2 > Plutonia > D44M > DooM3never played 64.
>>338277603
in brutal doom the finishers are completely optional and can only be done when you have a bezerk pack
in new doom you have to preform a finisher on every single enemy if you want to get your health back
>>338272061
And where does Doom 3 BFG fit into all of this?
>>338277801
In the thrash.
>>338277730
dooms one of the closest things to video game design perfection and the amount of variety in usermade wads with just the standard enemies is pretty amazing
>>338277730
well I specifically mentioned user maps, not the very early maps that came with the game itself
play 'nullspace' if you want to know what good enemy placement feels like, that doesn't require complex monsters
>>338277603
>>338277603
Enemies don't speed up on higher difficulties you nong.
>>338277724
Should have come up a better name.
>>338277749
64 is pretty good and has a PC port, you shouls check it out. just download Doom 64 EX and get a rom of it off of emuparadise or something.
>>338277763
>in new doom you have to perform a finisher on every single enemy if you want to get your health back
+3 health with the probability of getting one-shotted by possessed soldiers and imps sure was worth it anon.
Consider playing on Nightmare instead of UV and realize that glory kills are actually the worst option when finishing demons off. Just look at the sole speedrunner for the new Doom and he only does a glory kill when it's the last demon in the arena.
>>338277763
There's plenty of health scattered around the level. You don't have to do a single finisher except on the bosses if you don't want to.
You don't have to like the game, but don't pretend you've played it if you haven't because it's really obvious when you do that.
>>338277921
That's why I said "Fast monsters" its an option you can enabled in old doom, guess you'd need to have been born earlier to know that.
Guys, DOOM 1 isn't really a good game. It's a revolutionairy game for sure but no one here can honestly say they would enjoy playing through DOOM 1 today. Be honest with your selves, you know it to be true.
I'm getting tired of this viral marketing.
>>338277881
>>338277893
Yea well no shit user made wads have fantastic design, they have no time constraints and are iterated upon a billion times.
Why would I be comparing a vanilla released game to a modding scene that's been around for over a decade.
>>338277763
>Mancubus almost dead, run up and glory kill
>Summoner brings my health of 60 now 65 down to 4
If glory kills were truly mandatory id software are more hardcore and cruel to their players than I expected.
>>338277976
not him, but I just finished on UV the other night, I think I might start a Nightmare playthrough tonight. is it more fun?
>>338278065
I literally played Doom for the first time 2 years ago and I fucking loved it.
I didnt even use any sourceports.
>>338278065
if im being honest with myself, Doom 1 is possibly my favorite video game of all time. bait harder.
>>338278157
I'm biased as I have already beaten Nightmare twice and working on Ultra-Nightmare so I don't think my opinion would be the best for you.
If anything, did you really enjoy the campaign in UV? If so, then definitely give Nightmare a shot; it's far more difficult. If you thought the campaign was 'okay' then I think give Nightmare a shot until Argent Facility at maximum to determine your enjoyment.
>>338278065
I still play Doom regularly.
>>338278065
I play through vanilla Doom 1 in its entirety every couple of months, usually I'll play a different port to see whats different though. My last run was on the Xbox 360 on Nightmare
>>338278267
You only like it because of nostalgia. Imagine if Doom never existed and was released today as an indie title. I can assure you you wouldn't care for it.
>>338278328
Just for nostalgia
>>338278065
Not really, it's just so simple, I found DOOM recently and by no means grew up with it, but I still really enjoy ultimate doom with the "smooth doom" animation mod. I think its just doom 1 is so easy to play, so little to figure out least amount of obnoxious features that get in the way of shooting imaginary guns at imaginary things.
This is the proper list
Doom 2 = Doom 1 > D44M > Doom 64 > Doom 3
>>338278065
No offense, mate but......Holy shit, just....just stop.
If any of you guys wanna discuss Doom games /vg/ has a Discord chatroom setup -- lets make some SnapMap shit together too:
https://discord.gg/011CjebySrvObyBJk
There are two things I don't really like about the combat
The biggest one is how prominent melee knockdowns are. They become so predominant especially on higher difficulties. The problem is that they break the really good flow of the game, leading to a situation where it becomes a "hit the enemy few times > melee fatality for health" paranoia.
The other big issue is how unbalanced weapons and some upgrades are. There are some really game-breaking upgrades that almost kill the identity of a violent but fast-paced game like Doom, mostly the "have 100 armor points to not lose any ammo" upgrade.
Aside from those two bad stinkies and the mediocre multiplayer the game is really good.
>>338272061
>Doom 64
>better than anything
>>338278518
> They become so predominant especially on higher difficulties.
I found myself using glory kills less and less on Nightmare and on subsequent Ultra Nightmare runs.
>>338278386
>You only like it because of nostalgia. Imagine if Doom never existed and was released today as an indie title. I can assure you you wouldn't care for it.
I'd probably be upset other indie Devs are not matching the quality of DOOM.
I love first person pixel graphics games, and hate brown/grey 3D shoot-hairs we have by the bucketload, its biased but for that reason I could never like NuDoom as much.
Why y'all niggas hating on Doom 64?
>>338278518
I assure you in Nightmare the glory kill function becomes far less prominent and above all avoided beside using a chainsaw to get ammo back.
>>338278386
>Just for nostalgia
No, because it's fun. You know, that thing you used to have as a child before you became a full time shitposter intent on telling people what they do and don't like.
>>338278693
My first run was on Nightmare and I used Glory Kills like crazy. Especially useful after you get the rune that makes GKs drop armor shard
>>338278510
Meh, I'd have to change my avatar.
>>338278690
I don't hate it, but I sure as hell don't make it as some masterpiece above Doom II with map design in mind. I haven't touched it in over twenty years, but when I was 8 I never bothered asking my brothers ever again, "Wanna play Doom 64?" It would be wanting to play Goldeneye, Star Fox 64, the original DOOM on our PCs or Perfect Dark.
Really, I might play Doom 64 just to see what the recent love everyone has for it and figure out if it's a matter of people born in '94+ praising it up the ass or not.
>>338278690
dunno, i find it better than doom 1.
>>338278690
it looks like a garbage version of duke 3d, not doom
>>338278771
It's not fun. It's a fucking maze with the same shit all over the place. If you played the first 3 maps you've played the whole game.
>>338272061
That's some great shit taste right there
>>338278847Do you have a stream? I actually get wrecked doing any Glory Kills in Ultra-Nightmare and having armor shards drop never pay back in dividends whatsoever for me. If it's down to three demons I end up just shotgunning them in the face to where the glory kill indicator doesn't even pop up.
post your favourite doom track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
>>338278308
I loved the campaign but felt it got a bit easy towards the end after I had a bunch of upgrades. sounds like im playing nightmare tonight.
DOOM crack when?
>just finished playing Doom 64 for the first time
>tfw I'm only just now playing Doom 1
I never knew I was missing out on such joys in life. I'm sorry.
>>338279041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAYqiKFk9c
>>338272061
Eh, DOOM is the most fun I've had in a while, and honestly that's enough for me. Whether or not it's better than Doom 1 or Doom 2 is personal preference.
>>338279041
>dubstep shit
Why is everyone willing to ignore the fact that "Glory Kills" are so obviously inspired from Brutal Doom?
Its a huge part of the game, making you need to do them on Bosses and some enemies. It just bugs me so much time went into something from a mod instead of staying closer to the original games. That and the art style, I've seen people post about how the enemies are "identical" to the doom 1 enemies, yea no.
>>338279209
I was just stirring people up as that's the only way to guarantee a thread won't die after a few posts
>>338279236
What? Who is ignoring glory kills are not a blatant rip-off from Brutal Doom finishers? Who are you quoting off of?
>>338272061
Doom 2 > Doom 4 > Ultimate Doom > Doom 64 > Doom 3
Doom 2 is a straight up upgrade to Ultimate Doom so it has to be first.
>>338278897
Yes, please keep telling me that my subjective experience of fun is wrong.
>People unironically putting D44M before Doom 1 & 2
This place is DEAD
>>338279235
sounds more industrial to me honestly.
>>338278690
I don't hate it, but it's not something I'd play more than once. The music just doesn't get me hyped as Doom 1, 2 or 2016.
>>338279415
it is
>>338279236
If Doom 4 had enemy design reminiscent of Doom 1 and 2, it would be flawless
>>338279236
They're not an important part of the game. You can do the whole game without doing them easily except for the bosses, which you've already annihilated with your regular weapons anyway so boss glory kills are basically just cutscenes.
Of course you'd know this if you played the game, so stop trying to tell people the game plays a certain way when you haven't even touched it.
Those levels with the purple sky in 64 were the most atmospheric experiences I had in a Doom game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vXloS2J-4
>>338279472
It's better
all Dooms == all Dooms
because they are all good games you unhappy pieces of shit
>>338279472
pretty much nobody is though. mostly everyone who likes Newm still likes 1 and 2 the best.
Is their a WAD that simply improves and refines everything in the base game? Doom 1 or 2.
>>338279562
So more slow enemies that throw slow fireballs at you?
>>338279235
skip to 1:54
>>338279670
like how they literally look
I don't like how the demons actually look that much
>>338279698
>dubstep metal noise
wow..
Atmosphere
Doom64>Doom3>Doom1>DOOM>Doom2
Level Design
Doom1>Doom64>DOOM>Doom3>Doom2
Gameplay
Doom2>Doom1>DOOM>Doom64>Doom3
Do we agree?
![5DZK3tw[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ni8y4Yr.jpg "5DZK3tw[1].jpg")
>>338279730
So you'd want them to look like this?
I'm playing Ultimate Doom, any tips?
I feel like dodging with strafe is a bit hard, wish it would automatically run when I do it.
Also I never find any secrets,what's the secret?
>>338279742
>meme arrowed simplified description
whoa....
>>338279236
I need to tell _draqu to start using glory kill every opportunity he gets when doing Nightmare speedruns because it's such a huge part of the game and he could probably clear it within an hour instead of an hour and thirty minutes.
>>338279774
Not even close.
>>338279742
Do you even fucking know what dubstep is?
>>338276395
Doom 2016 is insanely better.
>>338279668
smoothdoom
you can download high-def remade texture packs but they look like shit as those sorts of things usually do
>>338279730
Yeah I agree, most of the new designs are too chitinous looking and not fleshy enough.
>>338279848
Obviously not.
>>338279041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Y-lpfP0Uo&ab_channel=KomaChan
>>338279852
>wish it would automatically run when I do it.
wait, do what?
>>338279041
>mick gordan
fuck year
>>338279876
>speedrunners
>>>/out/
>>338279852
enable autorun you fucking faggot
>>338279954
Yeah, like the barons of hell
They had this goat man satan look that was really cool, and now its not hairy legs, it's chitin?
>>338277490
Doom 3 is good.
>>338277490
Doom 3 with redux is great
>>338280060
Yeah go ahead and work on that mental gymnastic of yours to deflect a speedrunner using the most optimal choices to finish a game as quickly as possible.
>>338276931
What the fuck does "nu" mean anyways
I feel like you faggots just apply that to the front of anything you don't like
>>338272061
I haven't played 64, but yeah. This is basically it.
Though I would go UD=D16 for me.
>>338280390
It's mean "new". How nu are you?
>>338280568
then why don't you just say "new" like a regular well-adjusted human being
>>338280568
Wouldn't that be the exact opposite? People have coined it in recently and if anything you should be saying, "What rock have you been under?"
>>338280568
I know you're trying to be cute and funny, but... You're a fucking faggot.
>>338280647
>>338280654
Because it's mean to be slightly derisive and imply needlessness. Like "nu-metal"
>>338280654
>People have coined it in recently
The term 'nu'? Not true
>>338280857
I'm pretty fucking sure you don't know what it means either
>>338280647
it's like 'nu metal'
cause doom is pretty metal
i wasnt even saying it in a derisive fashion
>>338280859
Most people would commonly address the new Doom being either simply DOOM because it's the only thing relevant released recently as DOOM, DOOM 4 for those that are fans, and nuDoom for whomever despises the newest title hence why I'm stating people have coined it recently. Back in E3 last year called it? DOOM 4, D44M, or just DOOM. Now? People are shoe-horning this term NuDoom and it leaves confusion to those under a rock.
>>338281237
if you dont understand what Nu-Doom means I think you might be retarded
>>338281237
How else would someone interpret nuDoom?
>>338281525
>>338281638
I understand it that it's stated from users that are unhappy with the newest title and they are pretty vocal about it all.
>>338281237
>confusion to those under a rock.
You're on a video game enthusiast board. I can't imagine this is an issue.
>>338278065
I played Doom for the first time last year and it was one of the most fun experiences I've ever had.
Suck my dick.
>>338281905
Not I, but people like >>338280390 or other people who may or may not visit other mediums for video games other than 4chan due to ancient habits to keep visiting this imageboard since 2006 may not understand what they're implying with the term.
>>338282114
im not implying shit
nu is short for new
its really not that hard to understand
>>338274954
Shadows.... the game was basically a techdemo.
>>338282114
I'm not going to keep crossposters in mind when I post
>>338280006
Sounds like Wipeout
>>338276426
I'm hoping better mod tools come, but I doubt it. Still getting logic manipulation out the gate is good, but not enough.
Multiplayer is average to good, IMO. Far better than the originals, still.
The games are about equal to me, but new Doom wins in a lot of respects.
>>338282252
Do I have to repeat myself? Not everyone is going to understand that reference from the getgo and that was already seen in this very thread, we're actually arguing over something very silly at this point.
My point is, the term 'nu' will not snap into someone's mind that it's new as you imagine; people think differently and I was stating reasons why (being under a rock or something) it causes confusion. Fuck.
>>338282431
Every major game in the 2000s was a tech demo.
>>338276479
What's so bad about the mp? I'm thinking about getting it but shit multiplayer makes me not want to.
>>338279235
>I don't know what genre it is so i'll just say it's dubstep XD
Holy fuck just kill yourself famalam.
>>338277608
underageb&
>>338279041
>>338272061
Doom > Doom 2 > Doom 3: Hell's Resurrection of Evil > Doom 64 > D44m > Doom 3
I like all of them except baseline doom 3, but even that I found things to like.
>tfw people shit on Brutal Doom but its campaign is actually really good
>>338284143
Resurrection of Evil over 4, really?
>>338280006
Did anyone else think that the final boss appearance was underwhelming?
>>338284617
Yes really. Resurrection of Evil is pretty good and cleans up a lot of my immediate problems with Doom 3. The level design is better than 4, and so is the gun-play. There's also no for glory kills and the chainsaw isn't completely terrible.
I know 3 is fucking flawed but the DLC cleaned it up a lot and I genuinely don't any reason why it should be behind 4.
>>338284718
Nope, I quite liked it. The legs in particular (not in that way you creep).
Maybe the gun could have been bigger or something? I dunno, I was alright with it. I respect them trying, too.
>>338280062
b-but the game moves too fast that way
>>338285172
Yeah, that's so completely off my own opinions that I doubt we can find a middle ground.
On level design, RoE is better than 3 in some ways, but it loses the whole terror thing 3 was going for. Also 4 has so much more verticality, secrets and the combat just flows so much better in my opinion. Yeah, there are more arenas than "normal" encounters, but I don't care.
About the gunplay. Every gun in RoE except SSG and maybe CG in some ocassions felt terrible to me. By contrast, every gun in new Doom except pistol feels great.
I'm alright with glory kills, though I don't use them because Nightmare fucks you if you do, and 3's chainsaw was alright except that you never really had to use it, I like the new one being a powerup of sorts.
>>338272061
>Doom 2 not first
Underage detected
>>338280013
Strafing, I assume.
>>338286178
>muh super shotgun
quake>doom
Doom 2 has better mods, so it's on top.
>>338286281
Doom 2's enemies were great, except for the Pain Elemental.
>>338285941
Well the nice thing about opinions is they're subjective and in the case of 3, it's basically never going to be relevant again anyway.
Also I don't believe 4 is bad, it just need cleaning like 3 did before it. The base is much better than 3 as well so potentially the DLC campaign or rush sequel i guess could be really good.
>>338286460
for multiplayer, yea.
Doom's singleplayer blows Quake's out of the water though.
>>338277490
Doom 3 isn't complete shit, it's just not a great doom game.
>>338286507
>Doom 2's enemies were great, except for the Chaingunner.
fix'd
>>338272061
Doom>Doom 2> D44m> Doom 64> Doom 3
Huge drop off in quality between Doom 64 and Doom 3.
>Trying to compare this DOOM to the original DOOM
A foolish action because its nigh on impossible to surpass the original DOOM. Don't get me wrong I absolutely LOVE the new DOOM and think its a huge step in the right direction for FPS but its like trying to compare Human Revolution to the original Deus Ex, they're both fantastic games but one is just on a completely different level.
>>338276518
I'm pretty positive there are 36 enemies.
>>338287459
> its nigh on impossible to surpass the original DOOM
On what aspects?
>>338283112
>3 minute wait time between every map
>loadouts
>terrible weapon balance
>tiny bad maps
>turn into demon to get 10000 free kills
>>338287646fun
>>338277323
Difficulty does change enemy aggressive and patterns. Imps throw fire much more frequently, Pinkys spend less time stalling before a charge, etc
>>338283112
It's very average.
Generally, people forgot that you actually have to time items so they complain about pickups being overpowered.
>>338279235
Its industrial mixed with djent dumbass.
>>338286178
Doom 2 has 1 redeeming quality and that's the super shotgun. The stage design is ass and doesn't even compare to Doom 1 on the whole.
>>338279170
Good taste, friendo
>>338288103
>3 minute wait time
Holy shit Freeze tag is probably the only mode that works well with loadouts but the match lasts for like 8 mins only to wait 3 mins in between
It fucking sucks
>>338288423
And it still doesn't manage to be good.
>>338280158
Redux mod doesn't change anything gameplay wise though.
It just makes it prettier. Which is nice, but it doesn't change that Doom 3 is a "fight one monster at a time in dark rooms with a pea shooter" simulator.
>>338275189
I don't think so. It's flaws are armored pinkies and possessed soldiers with those fucking shields from Halo. It also relies too much on gloryhole kills.
>>338272061
>this list
Alright that's it I'm done with /v/
>>338290343
>Later game UV
>Anytime I do Glory Kills, I usually just line up to eat 4 fireballs to the face as soon as my animation ends
Is this happening to anyone? Im just using alt fire on the plasma rifle instead of glory kills now
>thy flesh consumed
>>338290343
How do you actually kill the shield guys? Keep shooting the shield or circle strafe?
>>338290073
You're still wrong, Saying its dubstep just makes you retarded.
>>338290656
Get Detonating rockets and blow out their backs
>>338290656
I just fire the plasma stun on them and rape them with rockets.
>>338275031
>falling for the "doom 2 is bad because the maps are bad" meme
I don't think Doom 2 is bad at all, but if you think Sandy Peterson wasn't on acid the entire time he was mapping for Doom 2 you're taking harder shit than he was.
>>338277763
Glory kills kind of suck dick of you aren't at <25 HP
>glory kill a revenant
>one shorter by a charging pinky
I couldn't stand Doom 64. The sprites were straight up worse than original Doom and the game was way too fucking dark. Sure Doom and Doom II had dark areas but they weren't the entire game.
>>338279472
>IT"S NOT OLD SO IT MUST BE BAD
kys grandpa
>>338278065
>all these mouthbreathing retards replaying a game where you don't even aim
How absolutely brain dead do you have to be to enjoy DOOM in the current year
>>338290646
>perfect hatred
How many achievements are tied to multiplayer. I would want to 100% single player but don't want to touch multiplayer
>>338291307
Doesn't feel any different than aiming with a controller.
I like the music in D44M alot but I miss my thrash rip offs
>>338291497
Fucking Polygon God damn
>>338278386
Why do you bother playing video games at all, mate?
They're not good. The games that come out 20 years from now will prove that. You're just wasting your time.
How bad are the console versions?
>>338279848
>spiky gingerbread man
how about something more like this?
>>338290656
Gauss cannon shot at their feet.
>>338275189
I agree with this
>>338290343
I like new pinkies even if I can't bait their stupid mouths anymore
>>338291993
They looked basically like that on the E3 demo, and they were changed.
I liked them.
>>338276006
git gud
>>338275189
>2016
>no mods
HAW
HAW
>>338292724
if you're good at the game you're never so low on ammo that using the chainsaw is a preferable option
>>338275490
This anon right here
>>338278882
But it's nothing like Duke 3D
>>338279170
beat me to it senpai
>>338292707
from what I can tell the e3 Imps were like tiny hell knights in design, which I kinda liked the idea, the imps are baby demons.
>>338279041
The only one that sounds like Doom is the E1M1 remix in the trailer, is it true that Mick hates that one?
>>338279236
Glory Kills reminded me a lot of the game Space Marine, where the special cinematic kill scenes would restore your health
>>338291258
>kys
>it's newer so it's better
hang yourself kiddo
>>338279041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=volI6Q40TQQ
>mfw I got to this level and heard the Bruiser Brothers roaring
>>338293378
It only plays once in the start of the game. It's short and is mostly just him putting a bunch of industrial noise over the original jingle. I wouldn't be surprised if he does hate it.
I kinda like it though. But maybe that's just the E1M1 winning me over.
>>338279848
Of course not, that shit looks like a blowup doll. Where's the teeth.
>>338279041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z81virrz6TY
Years later I found Alice in Chains and couldn't figure out why "Them Bones" sounded so familiar to me
After a battle in the sanctum, you get a bit of the melody of E1M8.
In the BFG Division song, there's clips of 2 different songs I recognized but I can't really place them.
During the fight in the Turbines in the Factory, there's part of another Doom song but I don't remember where that one is either.
>>338293849
oh hey it's a MIDI version of a song from Radio X on San Andreas
>>338292832
>he doesn't use a chainsaw to cut through groups of zombies and pinkies anyways
pussy
>>338294065
I just save the chainsaw for dealing with guys I can't be bothered to fight. Like any summoners or the 5th mancubus in a row.
>>338277763
Glory kills have more utility than Brutal Doom's.
> Get the long distance glory kill rune
> Hit cacademon, glory kill into the fucking sky over an abyss
> double jump back to the bridge
> not gonna make it back
> Shoot a zombie in midair
> fucking glory kill zip over and land on his face
it's so satisfying.
>>338292832
what is this? you use the chainsaw on lone zombie men, imps and demons or fist while berserk
it's actually a matter of preference, most players just go about using the SG or SSG because shotgun ammo is usually plentiful
might get the job done, but it's ultimately boring
>There are people who don't like the Sign of Evil remix they used for the main menu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRkA1xYBZBQ
Just so we're all clear
Blood > Quake > Doom
>>338294514
And just to specify
Duke>Every other shooter ever.
You're welcome.
>>338272061
But Doom 3 was okay. You can't prove anything was horribly broken in it.
>>338294513
Some of it reminds me of the terminator movies.
>>338294646
Enjoy your stale memes in the DN3D remake by Gearbox
>>338294646
>Duke only had 3D and the sidescrolling games
>Literally everything else has been a mediocre trainwreck until DNF, which was a less than mediocre trainwreck
>>338294514
>Blood has lackluster singleplayer maps
>Enemies aren't interesting outside of Cultists(Which are 10/10)
>Multiplayer is god tier but ignored due to Quake
Caleb dialogue > Duke dialogueFuck Atari
>>338294012
no need to get shitty about it, I really liked Barrels of Fun, that as well as Tricks and Traps were my favourite levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOGqrWLOrE
I forgot how much I loved all these songs.
>>338294514
Enjoy your hitscan enemies
GERO SHAY CRUO
>>338294842
Gearbox memery does NOT represent Duke
>>338294934
>>Enemies aren't interesting outside of Cultists(Which are 10/10)
Thematically?
Because gameplay wise they're boring as shit.
>>338294514
Blood's kinda neat but hitscan is bullshit.
