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Is Warhammer the highest rated Total War game ever?
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yes it is
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>>338269484
>>338269923

>1 unique poster

Anyways. What other factions would you guys like to see in Total war Warhammer?

I only started learning the lore recently because I'm going to play the game but Kislev sounds pretty cool. Their last leader rode a bear which I can see them putting in the game considering people ride pegasi and gryphons
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>>338270076
Beastmen, Ogres and Lizardmen
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>>338270076

i wanted to discuss man
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>What is Total War: Shogun 2

It's not even that old.
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>>338270076
Tomb Kings
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Kinguin keys are out boys, preload

>>338270076
Obvious 100% will be in are Skaven, and Wood, Dark and High elves.
After that, I think Tomb Kings is a good fit

Lizardmen and Beastmen will be hard fits though, but I think the long term plan since its 3 games + DLC for each game that everything gets in.
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>>338270414

Are they one in the same or seperate factions in the universe?


>>338270480

What race are you going to play first?


>>338270564
WE WUZ

TOMB KANGZZ
Also does anyone know why Chaos gets 3 legendary lords and everyone else only gets 2? Could they not find other "important" characters for those factions or something?
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>>338270670
Every faction is getting another 1-2 legendary lords as free dlc
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>>338270670
DLC
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>>338270076
Dark Elves and High Elves.

Fuck Wood Elves.
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>>338270670
They're all separate factions
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>>338269484
>9/10

So how much money Sega and Creative Assembly paid the reviewers for this shit game just like how they pay for Rome 2 and Attila?
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>no lizardmen
>no ogres
>no Tomb Kings

Who cares
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>>338270865
Rome 2 is sitting at 76 metacritic though. This is a whole 10 points higher at 86 and Attila is at 80

Attila was a much smoother launch than Shogun 2 and Rome 2. People just forgot about it because TW Warhammer was announced and Attila was a middle game between Rome 2 and this
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Like I said in the last thread (and I still stand by) I hope this game is a raving success and ushers in a completely new fantasy-based mainline TW series.

If they play this one right, it could very well over-write TW as a historical series completely.
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>>338270750
>>338270767

Well at least it will be free hopefully.

Does anyone know who the legendary lords will be for Bretonnia ? They seem like my favourite faction so far just from reading their lore.

I don't see another human faction coming out straight after Bretonnia though, will probably be elves or something.

Has the map of the in game world been shown yet? I'm still trying to wrap my head around where every race resides
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I might be autistic but I'd have a hard time playing this game because characters having magical powers making them stronger feels like a weird gameplay feature.
i can identify as a lightly infantry man about to be slaughtered by heavy inf. but not in a fantasy wargame.
I don't know if I make sense but you might understand what I mean I guess
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For someone who knows nothing about Creative Assembly, except that they made these big cool strategy games: is CA considered a AAA studio?

Where does this game fall in terms of A's?
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>>338269484
I'll buy it during a sale, after all the dlc's are released and it's 75% off. Fuck ever buying a creative assembly game at launch again. I learned that with empire oh so long ago.
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>>338269484
You have bought it... Right?
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>>338271091

>>338271184
I don't think any RTS PC-only game could be considered AAA. It won't have the marketing for it.
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Leoncur, the Bretonnian king is guaranteed. The other one is most likely gonna be the Fay Enchantress.
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>>338271225

I don't preorder out of principal
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>>338271225

What the fuck do you think I'm doing right, RIGHT, now?
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>>338271091
Green Knight and the Fey Enchantress
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>>338271184
CA is not an AAA studio but they're getting there, they're branching out and making other games now instead of just strategy stuff for PC.

I believe they're one of the biggest dev companies in the UK too.
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This is literally the first game I've ever pre-ordered. Because I fucking LOVE Warthammer and I hate Age of Sigmar.

Nothing quite says "sound investment plan" like buying out of anger.
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>>338270670
Starting with Orcs & Goblins I think

They were my first army when I played 40k

My first WHFB army was Lizardmen so...
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>>338271254
meant for
>>338271091
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>>338271374
>Warthammer
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>>338271225
No. The last couple Total War games burned me on release. I'll wait this time.
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>>338271437
Can you play a full gobbo army?
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>>338271248

So where is Kislev on that map?

Also who is that guy chilling down south on the tilean sea
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>>338269484
Do the dwarves get Gotrek as a hero?
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>>338271557
I don't think anything can stop you from doing so.

Not sure if would be as viable as a mixed army, but go for it
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DROWN IN SEA OF GREEN

WAAAGH!!!
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Anyone have suggestions for Warhammer fantasy reads to get a little background on the setting before diving into the game? I'm only familiar with 40k
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>shallow TBS aspect and 'throw these units at these units' gameplay

ahh yes
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>>338271663

Dwarf heroes are Ungrim Ironfist and Thorgrim Grudgebearer


>>338271721

WAARGAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>338271663
As of now, only Thorgrim and Ungrim, they might add more heroes later.
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>>338271464

That's when you go skiing with a hammer instead ski poles.
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>>338271775
The Gotrek and Felix books are great.
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>>338271775
Absolutely, check out 1d4chan

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle

Go down to "Setting" and you can get a quick rundown of each army. Then if you see an army you like, click on their name and check out their story.

My favorite story is Dark Elves vs High Elves lore[/spoilers]
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Too much optimism in these threads.

Let's talk negativity:

>"I will hate this game if _____ is not done correctly!"
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>>338271775
If you know 40k then you won't have any trouble adapting to Fantasy, it's almost the same shit.

You can read up the little wiki here, there's also another one in the game where you can get more lore details about the units, factions and shit.
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER
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>>338270076
Skaven and elves are the most important faction left out
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>>338271557
>>338271715
Gobbo armies are actually legit if you are fine with spiders. They'll fall apart super fast against stuff that cause terror but pretty much every late game goblin unit has poisoned weapons so a bunch of forest goblin spider riders could just kite a slower army to death after murdering all their light cavalry.
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>>338271909
Lords and Agents/Heroes

New "race" is Bretonnia
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>>338271985

>people unironically like elf races

Why?
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>>338271775

The armybooks are great for the basic lore and unit backgrounds

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles
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>>338272030

I was watching an empire walkthrough and it had some event that lowered growth in his city because of Skaven kidnappings? Could be a hint that they'll bring them in eventually
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>>338271775
Gotrek and Felix, Brunner the bounty Hunter, Matthias Thulmann series.

>>338271879
>>338271909
Lame and gay. I need to send Gotrek to wreck everything he comes across
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>>338271775
For overall lore knowledge you are best off reading the Time of Legends books since that covers stuff like what is up with all the undead and how the elves split into 3 faction and how the empire was founded
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>>338269484
No, there are far too many reviews that give it between 70-80 with such valid complaints as

>Elite units are locked behind advance infrastructure and technology

and

>getting a strong economy is difficult, making it difficult to field as many armies as you want.


for fuck's sake, they dumbed down econ just because people were too fucking stupid to figure out the Attila system.
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>>338272093

Holy fuck this a neat link. Thanks Anon!
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>>338272135
Skaven is one of the major faction so there is no doubt in my heart they will be in.
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>>338272057
They're the most important race in WHFB..

Whether you like them aesthetically or not is subjective, but the creators had a hardon for elves so they're pretty important
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>>338272135
Of course, Skaven are one of the biggest factions of importance, and they already confirmed more factions will be added.
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>>338272156
Heh, "Oh no I can't make 3 big invincible superarmies, the game is not balanced right!"

Game journalism
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>>338272156
How is the first one a legit complaint? Its been in every TW game
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>>338272240
>>338272093
Gotta second the Armybooks

I've read a few of them just the fluff sections and they're fantastic
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>>338272250
>>338272297

What are the skaven about? They follow chaos or more like orcs where they follow their own creepy god/s?
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>>338272156
The thing is that those reviewers are a bit shite and you can see in any of the streams or gameplay videos people hitting 1500 income a turn by turn 10 and getting powerful midgame units just as fast.
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>>338272240
>>338272093

Just make sure you read the 8th edition version of the armybooks
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>>338270865

I don't think SEGA and CA have enough money to pay off gamespot desu
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>>338272093
Great link Anon.
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>>338272435
They follow their own god, who just so happens to be corrupted by Chaos (you'll find this is a very common theme in WHFB)
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>>338270076

>what DLC do you want to buy, goyims
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>>338272435
They have one god, Horned Rat, and fall under Chaos sorta. Its built up over many clans.

If you want Skaven shit, Vermintide is fun.
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>>338272156
>>getting a strong economy is difficult, making it difficult to field as many armies as you want.
If you're talking about the RPS article, he was pretty well refuted by a guy in the comments who was saying that he was funding 5 armies in midgame without much problem as the greenskins.
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You know, shitposting aside, DLC as a concept was pretty much MADE for this type of game. Small, cheap releases of armies and races seem like just the thing for this type of game.
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>>338272308
He was being sarcastic, the complaints are the same "THEY DIDNT MAKE THIS GAME EASY ENOUGH, SHIT OUT OF TEN"
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>>338272156
Please be a joke.
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>>338272156

Game journalism is shit. Don't listen to them. If you want a good review of the game, go check youtube and a video from a channel with medium to small subscriber count.
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>>338270865
I don't think they have to pay off anyone because most reviewers are too pleb and inexperienced to give you a valid opinion on strategies, especially in this day and age. They're probably fascinated by the IP and ARMIES CLASHING, MAN to give you any substantiated opinion.
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>>338272435
Horned Rat is the Skaven god. He's a minor chaos god of pestilence. Other than that they snort dust made of chaos rocks and have technology based on those rocks.
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>>338272435
They are kind of tied to Chaos, but not directly beneath the Chaos gods, as they have their own god.

They are basically a massive faction of diseased, conniving, backstabbing rat people.
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In the opening of every campaign and the advisor is some old wizard looking motherfucker

Is he an actual character in the lore like a medivh or some shit? Because this seems straight lazy.
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>>338272620
To be fair, it's the Greenskins, whose entire shtick is LOTS AND LOTS OF CHEAP BODIES TO PILE ON THE ENEMY

GATHER THE BOYS, IT'S TIME TO GET STUCK IN
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>>338272057
I fucking love bows. That forces me to like elves.
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>>338272053
>New "race" is Bretonnia

Probably. They're already in the game and would be a first logical DLC race choice if Chaos didn't cause a shitstorm with that.
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>>338272929

He's most likely the guy from the cinematic trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4d3ignBNQ
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>>338272591
>>338272614
>>338272814
>>338272880

Sounds cool as shit

Who would be their beef cake unit? Rat people don't exactly scream strong and powerful.
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>>338273047

Bretonnia crusader DLC when?
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>>338272929
He's just a narrator. I don't believe he is meant to be considered a real living person. A human would get fucking stomped if he waltzed into an orc war camp.
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>>338271184
>is CA considered a AAA studio?

Yeah pretty much. They're about one of the biggest developers in the UK alongside Rockstar North and they have the largest videogame mocap studio in Europe.

The only thing that makes them different from other AAA studios is that they generally don't spend 18 trillion on marketing
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>>338273253

>UK
>important
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>>338271091
>Well at least it will be free hopefully.
Oh man, is this your first Total War game? You're in for such a surprise.
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>>338273236

Anon...

He's a lord of change
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>>338273120
They have mutants
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>>338273120
They are science rats and as such perform horrifying experiments on eachother
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>>338270958
It was said, lizardmen dont live there, so there are no lizardmen, makes sense right?
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>>338273120
Rat ogre
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>>338273047

I'm imagining those dwaves in the far north like the wildings in game of thrones constantly shit talking everyone else about not knowing the "real" north
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>tfw I learned orks are basically complex lichen lifeforms with latent psychic ability that, when in groups, causes reality to shift to suit what they believe

>mfw red goes faster BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT DOES

>mfw purple is stealthier BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT IS
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>>338273120
Rat ogre is their big monster unit. They also have crazy hamster wheels that disintegrate everything around them with warp lightning.
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>>338272929
>>338273236

If the leaks are true, and this is a big fucking spoiler by the way, he's Tzeentch just fucking with ya
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>>338272156
>such valid complaints as Elite units are locked behind advance infrastructure and technology

Literally just complaining that late game things are late game. What the fuck.

I swear those two yellow reviews are basically the strategy game equivalent of the Polygon guy playing Doom.
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>>338273047
I'm massively disappointed you can't play as individual electorates/clans/whatever, but you're pretty much stuck with the same shit and choose from two starting heroes. Really don't see much replay value in the formula itself.
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>>338273448
I love Orks, dunno how different Fantasy Greenskins are to space Orks though, but I am always Greenskin loyal

WAAAGH!!! lyfe
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>>338272057
They have this highly militarized society thing going where even the tree fucking elf spin off is ready to go bush war on your ass in a moments notice.

The elder race in Warhammer fantasy has been through enough shit that a group of rape orcs from your choice of hentai wouldn't even make it through the first village, let alone an army of them.
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>>338270991
I encountered 0 issues whatsoever with Shogun 2 on launch and I played the pirated version so no patches. I also considered it to be very well polished.
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>>338273462
>>338273357
Well yeah probably. It would still be weird that an orc would take advice from something that looks like a human.
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>>338273528

They're planning to add more heroes and factions

So I guess that's where the replay comes from
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I need the Tomb Kings for reasons
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>>338273528
Maybe they will eventually add the ability to construct your own hero and build a army of your own and raise your hero to greatness.
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>>338273592
Yeah, Shogun 2 was probably their legit first "ready for launch" title. It wasn't perfect or anything, but it was a far cry from Empire.
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>>338273328
>UK
>not being the third most important vidya producing country in the world after USA and Japan

Implying...
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>>338273448
Fantasy orcs are just plain orcs though. Goblins like to grow mushrooms and brew crazy booze from them.
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>>338273371
>>338273383
>>338273390
>>338273390
>>338273456

The more I hear about these skaven the more I like em.

Wonder how they'd fit them onto the map though
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>>338273650
I want Avatar Conquest equivalent to return. People shat on that mode, but I loved it.
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>>338273767
They live pretty much all around the map underground.
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>>338273675
We're not that good mate, come on.
Although to be fair i can't think of anyone who does come third.
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>>338273462
Is it really a spoiler? I mean, you could see Tzeentch fucking with that wizard guy from the cinematic trailer.
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>>338273675

>britbong with delusions of grandeur

Why am I not surprised
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>>338273328
>GTA V
>Best selling game of All time
>Based in UK

>Codemasters
>Dirt Rally getting quite popular
>UK

Get fucked.

>>338273675
I'd put them second
JP>UK>NA

Not much really comes out of US they seem to just absorb things.
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>>338273767
Underground cities, like the dwarves.
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>>338272057
They're shit-gobbling faggots?

Seriously, anyone with at least half a brain will like elfs.
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>>338271248
>I don't think any RTS PC-only game could be considered AAA
What the fuck am I reading. Go look at the budget of games like Starcraft II and Dawn of War II and say that again.
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>>338273462
That spoiler is as surprising as seeing a game-original Chaos lord and him being connected to Khorne.
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>>338273854
>>338273931


Exactly

If they live underground of other factions how would that work within the game? They might be able to do something interesting with it
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>>338270480
Are you gay or something?
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>>338273528
>using scrollbars
>with all that unused real estate

I see whoever designed the interface already deserves to be shot based on that menu alone.
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>>338272053
>2 new lores of magic
>New playable race
>4 new major characters
Holy fuck, that's quite generous for "free DLC".
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>>338273770
Shogun 2 had the best multiplayer.
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>>338273767
There is a good L4D-type horde game with Skaven as the enemies. Its really good if bare-bones
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>>338274032
Most likely they would just have holes pop up around between territories
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>>338274032
They could tunnel into the sewers of some city and start wrecking shit from there. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
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>>338274143
Its because they got too much flak for Rome 2 and Attila DLC
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>>338273528
I still don't know why they're forcing 3D portraits. They're not that good and just work as resource drain you don't really need it. Can you turn them off?
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>>338273858
Ubisoft and Atari are French companies. Although they usually make their brand games in Canada. They still have a bunch of well known dev studios like Quantic Dream, Cyanide, the Rayman guys etc

There are also a few interesting devs in Germany
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>>338274219
Does Total War give you options for out-of-battle tactics, like sending in infiltration units to sabotage defenses and armies before you fight them to weaken them, and such stuff like that?

It could be a great strength of the Skaven if they could do more behind the scenes shit before throwing their armies into the fray.
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>>338274143
Because all of it pretty much combines into ONE proper race.
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How is the performance? Any gamebreaking bugs or other problems?
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>>338273371
>>338273390
>>338273456
Rat ogres are pack beasts on table
If you REALLY want a terrifying rat beasty...
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>>338270669
>Kinguin keys are out boys, preload

What supplier?
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>>338273047

Estalia looks comfy
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>>338274442
>CA on release
I's guaranteed to have shitty performance and shitload of bugs on release. Wait for patches and dlc.
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>>338274442
No, game seems to run fine. A lot better than Rome 2 on launch.

But we won't know for sure until release.
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>>338270076
Ultramarines

I'm joking. Or am I
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>>338273528
>can only capture human cities
Damn it, I forgot about that retarded mechanic.
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>>338273928
Well who is third then? And don't say fucking France or I'll clobber you
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>>338274383
>Does Total War give you options for out-of-battle tactics, like sending in infiltration units to sabotage defenses and armies before you fight them to weaken them, and such stuff like that?

That has been a thing since the original Shogun Total War.
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>>338274383
Yes there are spies you can use on the map that let you poison food or assassinate or whatever

Not sure if those are in Warhammer
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>>338274565
Russia, obviously.
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>no spoopy pharaos with spooky chariots and units

Fuck you CA
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>>338274442
I guarantee it will have bugs. It's just a question of whether they're catastrophic or not.
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>>338274459
Weze gonna stomp doz rats reeeeal good
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>>338272780
>Total War
>strategies
Total War is all about "ARMIES CLASHING", as you put it. It's never been a realistic battle simulator, unless you mod the games to hell and back.
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>>338274628
They are, orcs get cool goblins as agents, vampires can use banshees and so on.
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>>338274681
How would their cities work? There are no desert regions on the map and Tomb kings don't build pyramids, afaik.
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>>338270076
Well I don't know a thing about Warhammer but I think they'd add a horse race or something, I don't know.
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>>338274678
Are any of the 'slav core' games actually from Russia itself tho?
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>>338273770
As weird as it was, it did wonders to bring narrative to the multiplayer, something a lot of Strategy games lack.
I kind of wish games like Endwar would make a come back, I like the idea of fighting over territory against other players, the clan wars in Shogun 2 were an intense read.
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>>338269484
It isn't out yet right?
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I sure as fuck hope they expand the roster of leaders for all factions.

Having just Manfred and Heinrich for the Vampire Counts is stupid.
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>>338273770
I will never understand why CA didn't put Avatar Conquest in Rome 2. They already had the basic framework from Shogun 2, too.
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>>338274695
Black Orcs don't talk like that. They're much more eloquent.
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>>338274843
Neferata dead.
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>bunch of orc clans with cool names
>you get to play as greenskins

:/
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>>338274847
Or at least let us outfit our campaign generals with swords and armor to give small buffs and cosmetics. You know. Make us care about them.
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>>338274843
>I sure as fuck hope they expand the roster of leaders for all factions.

You can bet that's going to happen. I also want to see what they'll do with campaign expansions we saw for starting with Shogun 2.

>mfw Imperial Campaign chronicling how Sigmar united the tribes and kicked back everything that looked at him the wrong way
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Guys, btw, Dawn of war 3 soon.
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>>338274843
It's not like there are many vampire cunts alive at this point.
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So how big is it supposed to be? I preloaded the 9.2gb is that it?
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>>338275060
At least you get a pretty comprehensive upgrade tree.
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>>338274843

Who else could they add really?
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>>338274753
What do you need a city for if you're a mummy?
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>>338274857
We'll eloquent you right in the face
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>fantasy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Do the "regular" lords get any changes?

All the human ones I've seen look the exact same
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>watching BurkeBlack
>instead of an Orc campaign there's a bearded man crying on stream
that's really unorky
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>>338273047
>That tiny little vampire mound surrounded by the entire Bretonnian realm

How do they even survive?
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>>338275179
>that pic

LOCAL ORC RUINS EVERYTHING
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>>338275174
So daddy has a place to sit with the kids.
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>>338275174
From a gameplay stand point. Not having any fortifications would eliminate a large part of the game.
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>>338275270

They don't

get it?
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>>338275095
Nah we have at least a year if not more before it's released
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>>338273620
SLAVE TO THE POWER OF DEATH
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>>338275270
They're motherfucking Blood Dragons, that's how.
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>>338275329
Chaos have no fortifications
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>>338275260
>getting cucked out of gameplay because a bunch of faggots think it's funny to literally throw money at this asshole to do his song and dance
Jesus Christ
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>dat feel when first game ever that will make people BEG for DLC just so they can play as their favorite factions

That's not even talking about scenarios and shit.
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>>338275525

They've perfected their shekel mining techniques
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>>338274681
It's probably not CA's fault, GW buried Tomb Kings and cut them out of the new WHF edition
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>>338275525
They already said they are planning 2 big expansions for this game so we will see +2 fractions with each expac i hope
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>>338275525
Pretty sure DOAX3 beat this for a game that makes people beg for nickle and diming. I know because I'm looking forward to being a good goy for both that game and this one.
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>Games Workshop has told the story of this Chaos Incursion twice–the first time Chaos lost and fans hated it, the second time Chaos won and fans hated it. Now you can retell that story yourself.

Fucking BASED
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>>338275632
>and cut them out of the new WHF edition
>new WHF edition

We don't talk about that anon, you should not either.
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I know they confirmed that you can name your non-legendary generals, but has army painter been confirmed or did that get scrapped?
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>>338275948

I didn't know how much I wanted this until now

Pretty sure its scrapped though
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>>338271225

>paying $80

Are you fucking retarded? I'll just wait until winter sale in December and snag this shit + dlc for $40 probably.

Dumb, impatient plebs.
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>>338275748
>the first time Chaos lost and fans hated it

Nah, GW hated it.
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>>338275505
Jesus Christ, I just wanted to see ork gameplay and i thought he'd be a bit more fun than the usual "THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DONATION, DON'T FORGET TO FOLLOW AND SUB TO GET IN THE DISCORD AND FREE GIVEAWAY NEXT WEEK" but instead its been over twenty minutes and not a single one for pure gameplay.
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Reading the reviews it seems like they dumbed down/scrapped much of the overworld strategy portion of the game.

Honestly, I think this is for the best. TW games were never known for empire management. For me it was just an inconvenience that I had to deal with between battles.
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>>338276214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNhIY_Xvtc
Just watch this guy.
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>>338276214

I'm watching surrealBeliefs and he seems to just play the game. He has 1 hour campaign gameplays including battles for each faction besides chaos
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>>338275495
Are they playable in the campaign?
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>>338276407
I'd be fine with all that if they got rid of death stacking armies. It was bullshit to have completely obliterated an army only for 3 more to spawn in the province the next turn.
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>>338276487

Yes
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Why the hell can't I get a physical copy in Canada? I live on a god damn farm I don't want to spend 30 years fucking downloading this.
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>>338276525

I agree, there was a critical mass in each game where you'd get to with each faction having a bunch of full stacks of elites.

At that point you might as well just start a new game, it's a boring slog to the end.
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>>338273521
It was confirmed girl I think playing doom.
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>>338276206
No, the fans hated it because the ending was a big coup out. Salty anti-Chaosfags love it.
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>>338276525
>It was bullshit to have completely obliterated an army only for 3 more to spawn in the province the next turn.

You're going to hate fighting against the vampire counts then, they can form literal deathstacks by raising the dead in areas of high casualties within a single turn.
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Witch Hunters are looking HILARIOUS overpowered. Accuse can pretty much one shot any great melee lord in a few seconds.
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>>338274553
>capture dwarf cities
>settlers hit their heads on doorways and have trouble squeezing through the architecture
>Capture ork cities
>What cities?
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>>338276525
The worst thing is that I remember asking them directly on their shitty nazi forums and they warned me because I accused them of not fixing the fucking doomstack as late as Rome 2.
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>>338276192
>waiting
>not buying it on sale pre-release from slav sites
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>>338276920
he's more talking about the asspull the AI plays to 'simulate' actually playing the game. Especially the earlier games were notorious for just generating armies instead of actually building units, and having the all seeing eye for your special units (like spies and assassins), where you could place them in the farthest corner of the map and end up having 20 units come to kill them.
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Top gameplay from a 20 year veteran of the TW series.
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>>338277082
>capture an orc city
>you now live in a landfill
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>>338270564
Man, I'd love those. Not sure if they have a good chance of making it into the game though, seeing how they already have one undead faction.

On the other hand, it is aiming at people who care about Warhammer so they can probably assume that the fanbase knows those Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts are not identical Age of Sigmar can fuck off
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>>338277082
>Orcs can construct giant piles of shit as monuments in cities they sack
>This has a giant effect on public order
bravo CA
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>>338277295
>not buying it on sale pre-release from slav sites
have fun buying locked version you can't even play outside slavlands
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>>338277435

>canon doesn't count because I don't like it
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>>338270076
Tomb Kings and Wood Hippies.
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>>338277504
Sounds about right.
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>>338276192
*60
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>>338276814
>No, the fans hated it because the ending was a big coup out
It was fun.
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>>338276920
See, I'm okay with that because the fuckers literally just pull corpses from the ground. It's different than being jumped by an army of magical nippers that appeared from the fog.
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>>338277635
Age of Sigmar isn't Fantasy. It's Age of Sigmar.
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>>338277353
Hes either lying about how long hes played, or he just doesn't care about the game in reality
>Doesn't even pay attention to his own abilities
>Right after losing a huge battle and his army down to barely 100 troops he goes right into another battle with two full strength armies
>"I think I can win this, yeah, I can win this"
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>>338277754
>It's different than being jumped by an army of magical nippers that appeared from the fog.

Sounds just like Iwo Jima
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>>338271305
Doesn't the Green Knight just kind of show up? I don't really see him leading armies.
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>>338277635
Exactly. Thank you for understanding.
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How's the AI look so far? How modifiable does this game look? Is it silly for me to imagine something like a Lord of the Rings mod?
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>>338270076
DA ORKZ!
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>>338270521
>What is Total War: Shogun 2
shit, oily gook 2 is shit
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>>338277782
Not him.

It's a continuation of fantasy.
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>>338272057

Warhammer Elves are pretty fucking cool.
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>>338277754
>enemy attacks with Ashigaru army in the opening turns
>they get beaten and retreat with half the units they started with
>two turns later they come back
>half-dead Ashigaru used the power of Nippon to transform into full-strength Samurai
>and pulled a bunch more Ashigaru out of the air to fill out the unit cap while they did it

I don't know who was in charge of campaign AI in Shogun 2, but they weren't terribly good at it.
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>>338275428
Good point.

Blood Dragon vampires are badass. I really hope they're going to be added into the game.
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1.) The Attila campaign was too hard. Fucking 75 different things to track thrown in your face. Will TW Warhammer be easier?

2.) Is there an actual story to TW games? I have 30 hours in Attila but I just play custom and online.
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>>338277997
I've watched Heirofcarthage play a campaign on hard. He's had some difficulty in battles. If you know who he is, you'll know why that's a pretty impressive feat for the AI.

The AI honestly looks punishing. It doesn't sit back and let your missile cav get endless pot shots, it'll push your flanks and use cavalry intelligently. I'm pretty amazed so far, I'd say it has some of the best AI in a CA game yet.

Not sure about the mods, but I could certainly see that happening.
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>>338278148
Yet still different setting, different story etc.
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>>338278317
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>>338278357
>patchy playing as the dorfs
comfy.
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>>338278447
He's livestreaming now faggot, come and make chat great again
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The Necromancer hero of the Vampire Count faction serves the Chaos Gods and is empowered by the Chaos Gods. He shouldn't have been a playable character that represents the faction.

CA in charge of lore.
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>>338275102
>your undead need to be alive
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>>338270076
TOMB KINGS OR BUST.
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>>338278357

According to one of the reviewers I watched the AI is the usual TW AI however the game is a lot more forgiving to its stupidity since combat now relies a lot more on super-powerful single-model units slugging it out and wearing each other down in combat than clever positioning and maneuvering that was required in previous games.
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>>338272019
I will hate this game if killing elves is not mandatory
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>>338278379
You mean a different chapter of the same story.
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>>338274775
Got a link to the clan wars you mentioned? Sounds interesting.
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>he isn't going to play the Empire and nothing else
>he isn't going to spam glorious cavalry charges
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>>338278317
Now I'm imagining how the Blood Knight would have reacted if the Bretonnian aimed for his head with his 'free shot'. I bet he'd look a right wanker sat there with a lance through his face.
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>>338278640

Correct opinion.
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>>338278651
Nah different story with giant time-skip.
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>>338278307
they did this because they never made the AI actually build units at all. They just replenish themselves instantly instead of taking 2 turns each at different sites, then gathering them together. AI would be too easy to beat for players if they actually had to take time to build those units instead of smashing you with numbers.
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>>338278734

But he is. Because it is the correct way to play, and the correct race to be.
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>>338272880
So they are the jews of the setting, got it
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>>338273568
>dunno how different Fantasy Greenskins are to space Orks though, but I am always Greenskin loyal
they're the same, just without guns and engines and with the goblinoids subraces having possibilities to be relevant alone
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