>the character has a tragic backstory/mental ilness
>the character has no negative qualities whatsoever
>>338263791
>the character replaces you favorite party member from the previous game
>The character is an ambitious young kid with a go-get-em attitude that you really bond with
>They reveal a horribly tragic back story midway through the game
>or they die
>the character is forced to become a cyborg ninja
>character has amnesia
The character is a radical 90's designed-by-marketing character
>>338263791
>Its autism
>They don't break character at all the entire time they're at the table.
>>338263791
>he's fast
>>338263956
Literally him
>>338263791
>the character is a turkroach
>>338264067
>you can't get him back until near the end
>his battle lines are all in jap speak
Alright, who the fuck is the tiny man.
I'm sick and tired of seeing this tiny, tiny man everywhere without knowing who he is.
>if you kill your enemies, they win
>>338264802
He's Koksal Baba
He's a Turkroach in it purest form
>>338263956
When will this "characters need negatives qualities to be likeable" meme end?
Look at the most popular characters in media, they are charming and have no flaws. What's the flaw of Indiana Jones or Han Solo?
You can point to anime girls, but they all have fake flaws. Heterochromia, clumsiness, small tits, tsundere, being a cripple - these are flaws on paper, but men like these characteristics
Modern western games are choke full of characters with flaws and everybody hates them. It doesnt make them relatable or whatever the intention was
>>338264741
You can get Heat back? How?
>>338265041
It's called non-autismo writing.
>>338263791
Meowth mang
You can't help but feel bad for him.
>>338264995
Why is he so angry?
>>338265041
it does make them more interesting to me.
Worst case scenario of having no negative qualities is a mary sue.
>>338265110
Final dungeon only. You need to pick the right choices throughout the first two games
>>338265254
He's turk
>>338265226
Haha totally burned me, dude, blown the eff out, if you will
Meanwhile japs make billions on character merch, while I doubt you could name three likeable people from the last year of western repertoire
Oh, maybe Geralt. His flaw is that he cant get stds or chicks pregnant, so he can fuck anyone he wants. So compelling
>>338265296
>you have to do all this extra stuff to get back Shadow the Edgehog
>it's supposed to be a reward
>>338265379
Nice fedora, fatty
>>338265226
According to recognition, not what you might call typical weeb characters:
>Western posterboy
>Superman
>Eastern posterboy
>Super Mario
>>338263791
>>338264995
>>338265151
Is that ANZUJAAMu's TRUE FORM?
>>338265379
>Character merch
Who the fuck buys character merch.
Its Literally waste of money
>>338265379
Nathan Drake
Lara Croft
Master Chief
all ultra stereotypical, but all had games last year and are established beloved western characters. You personally may hate these characters, but the vast majority of people would call them quite likeable.
>>338265226
Why is Gabens Face there? he only has created puppets and villians so far.
>>338265151
I love this guy look at him take on that giant of an old man, he's like a wolverine
>>338265513
>Western Posterboy
>Batman
>Eastern Posterboy
>Naruto
ftfy
>>338265625
>Nathan Drake
No flaws, charismaric rogue
>Lara Croft
New one is annoying, old one is a flawless charismatic rogue
>Master chief
No flaws (or personality for that matter)
>>338265513
>>338265379
You guys really fell for that ancient old pic?
Jeez
>>338265226
I've never understood why Gaben is there since the protagonist of his games aside from Left 4 Dead are all the literal exact same silent slates for the player to project themselves on that have been used since the early years of the medium
>>338265686
>>338265797
It was made during the cringy era of Gaben Icon worship, those were dark times.
>>338265379
>std immune
>no child support
THATS THE DREAM MY BOY
>>338265296
Guess that ship sailed a while ago. I'm already at the 6th layer.
>>338265882
I know that but I've still never understood it since you literally cannot apply that to any Valve character. Gaben worship is one thing but that's just straight lies even if you worship Gaben
>>338265882
You're acting as if those times have ended.
>>338266000
Paid mod fiasco and Steam jewing have severely reduced the numbers of his cult, back then literally everyone was a part of it.
>>338265379
Christ, Geralt obviously has a daughter complex withwow I can't remember her name, also a wanderer complex flaw, and him fucking whoever he wants eventually turns into a flaw as well since hes got all these bitches wanting his dick, thus putting him into situations where he must choose.
Indiana Jones is afraid of snakes and cares too much about his companions putting him into complex situations.
Han Solo, is greedy as FUCK, and is a compulsive liar and gambler. He also WAS too self confident (not in the new movie). I guess you could argue he's too gullible as well with the new Ep. out and the events taht follow with his son. Go away. You can find a character flaw in almost any well written character, and when they rarely don't exist, people bitch because the character is boring mary sue (usually).
Geralt was a terrible reference, you coulda used like Spyro or some shit (even though hes rad)...
>>338265569
I hope that's a real girl
>>338266156
Except I remember very clearly that after the paid mods fiasco, the moment the Summer Sale happened everyone went back to sucking his dick.
People still defend Steam's shitty underhanded jewery and DRM bullshit to death, nothing has died even a little.
>Your favorite character dies to save your least favorite one
>>338266282
Well, it's a real person.
>>338263791
>character is prenamed
why do games still do this? totally breaks my inmersion
>the character has a mental illness
>it's actually believable and not just cartoony meme EVIL
>>338266430
I guess that's enough
>has a tragic backstory
>the backstory is being too fast
>>338266546
>games lets you name your character
>everyone calls you by some Title or something making the name you chose completely pointless
>>338266687
>game asks you to name your character
>name yourself "Dicks" or something
>game actually calls you by your name
>>338266549
What are some games with a character (preferably an MC) with some normal mental illnesses? I honestly can't think of any with an MC...
>>338266298
Yeah no, you're completely erong, which leads me to believe you were not around during the time I am speaking. To say Gaben worship is the same now as it was back then is ridiculous.
>>338266857
>What are some games with a character...
Oh I can think of a to-
>...preferably an MC
I got nothin.
>>338267028
Yeah i can think of plenty of mentally sick side characters, and some actually mentally retarded characters. But nothing where its the protagonist...I guess devs are scared of making like an autisitic Geralt or some hilarious shit. Like a game with dialogue options and choices where you can just tard out.
>>338264995
Why does he look like mini Niko from GTA?
>>338266857
Well metal gear solids have Autistic Main characters
>>338265759
>Nathan Drake
He's in a bad series of games.
>Lara croft
The original was a cynical bitch doing everything she was doing because of her dead dad. She'd let other people die to reach her goals.
>master chief
A genetically engineered monster that was created only for war. Deals with existential crisis a lot and is in love with a computer character. I'm surprised 4Chan doesn't relate to him more.
>>338267449
Except MC doesn't deal with an existential crisis at all except in 343's fanfiction which somehow makes him a worse character than he was when he had almost no personality.
>>338266828
>game is fully voiced
>still lets you rename every single party member, weapon, and magic spell despite that
>We're not so different, you and I...
Hey, I'd Koksal his Babas, alright
>>338266857
Fei from Xenogears. He's even diagnosed by a doctor as having a mental disorder.
>>338267410
But are they truthful to that lorewise? Or just niggas on /v/ just claim that said character is retarded. I haven't played too many MGS games, at least not enough to get into the story hardcore.
>>338266857
>>338267410
Jokes aside, Raiden develops disassociative identity disorder in MGR
>>338263791
HES FAST
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>>338264838
I too have played the Canada 2016 pack for Total War.
>>338267685
Why the fuck does he fight everyone
>>338267910
malicious little turkish hobgoblin
>>338266857
Trails in the Sky SC.Rennedeveloped quite a few mental disorders/illnesseswhen she was kidnapped and raped repeatedly as a child.
>>338266857
Shirou Emiya has a severe case of Survivor's Guilt in Fate/Stay Night
>>338267274
Because he is.
>>338268000
>>338267723
>>338267693
Cool, I like the Fei one. Thanks dudes, was curious...
>>338267910
Napoleon complex
>>338266857
I don't know if it entirely counts, but the protagonist in the Dead Space series suffers from a case of dementia throughout the first two games.
>>338268212
I guess you're right, though I suppose its more of a plot device to progress the story...
>>338267610
no game does this
>>338266857
Memes aside, naked snake definitely has some kind of aspergers.
>>338268346
No doubt about it.
Plus, he only suffers from minor memory loss, the games focus more on the hallucinatory aspect of it (which is there to progress the story).
>>338268365
>no game does this
>>338263791
MASAKA
>>338263791
most people are mentally ill to some degree
>>338268967
> game starts with a whiny fag and gradually turns into a still whiny asshole
> game is shit
> game is far cry 2 and beyond
> this is not how you greentext
>>338265041
Sometimes you're intended to dislike them.
Not every character needs to be likable.
It's like the current obsession in making all villains likable/charismatic, when it's perfectly fine making an unlikable one. (Same applies to main characters.)
Also, the psuedo flaws you're talking about in female characters, also applies to male characters, but are usually different flaws.
These are designed to make them more attractive to the gender who likes them.
All the Tumblr fanfiction around does the same with typical love interest males, that get females to like them. All the "Flaws" are actually there to make them better, rather than worse.
Problem with making every character perfect, is that they end up being mostly the same character over and over, because most people tend to like most of the same stuff.
Human are more alike, than they are different.
>>338268746
This game, and its sequel, made me completely hate fairies.
>>338265569
>you will never rape her in turns with your bros for misbehaviour against god while she wears cute animu cosplays and makes silly faces
>>338269681
>bein homophobic
wow.....just. just wow. literally unbelievable.
ill never understand this......place.
it feels like
after the past 2 weeks i have been here it just seems to get worst and worst.....
blatant racism
child porn spam
animal abuse
anti semitism
holocaust denial
woman hating
homophobia
fat shaming
off topic adult cartoons
the list goes on and on.......
the n word literally hurled around like it was a casual insult......
are there even moderators to control this insane place??!!!
disgusting..
i see why you people are callled the sewer of the internet.....
>>338265759
>Nathan drake
>no flaws
Thanks for proving his point and that's more proof you didn't play any of the uncharted games just like this entire board
I heard Turkey is almost going to shit nowadays. Prime Minister is trying to go full authoritarian.
>>338269749
>you will never have a loving relationship and consensual sex 3 times a week with her
>>338270816
You are one sick motherfucker.
>Video games
>Tragedy
The only games that ever feature Shakespearean tragedy are ones with good and bad endings, and the "Bad" endings are always an afterthought in development.
Video games will never be art because the industry doesn't employ artists.
>>338264838
What did he mean by this
[/spoiler]Seriously, what the fuck did this male bimbo mean by this? DUDE WE CAN'T STOP THE NAZIS FROM KILLING EVERYONE BECAUSE THEN THEY WIN!!![/spoiler]
>>338266857
>mental illness
>normal
I don't understand if it was normal then how can it be can illness
>>338271503
If you kill him, you're just like him!
>>338265331
>>338263791
JESUS FUCK RADICAL LARRY HAS A KNIFE!!!
HE CAN VIBRATE THROUGH WALLS AND HE WANTS BLOOD WE ARE FUUUUUCKED
>>338266857
Call of Duty Black Ops
>>338264595
I feel like he's a good villian type. Like Ramsy Bolton. Hes so good at what he does that you cant hate him
>>338265759
>Master Chief
>no flaws
Yea other than going through intense training as a kid and watching his childhood friends die. And the only person he trusts isnt even real
>>338273114
None of those are flaws.
>>338271105
>forgetting reach
>>338265041
>Han Solo
Reckless and a lone wolf
>Indiana Jones
Essentially the same damn thing
Sure, they're qualities that pay off on screen, but recklessness at least is definitely a flaw
>>338273114
these aren't flaws of character
he isn't a character, hes a cliche with enough pieces for you to fill in the rest
>>338263791
>the protagonist is never diagnosed or mentioned to have any kind psychosis in the first game
>new studio takes over the franchise
>the protagonist is suddenly revisioned to being mentally ill in the sequel
>>338268087
He also has sort of a Messiah complex
>>338264802
radical larry
>>338265226
The eastern one sounds way more original and interesting desu.
>>338264317
Fucking lin kuei
>>338267449
>A genetically engineered monster that was created only for war. Deals with existential crisis a lot and is in love with a computer character. I'm surprised 4Chan doesn't relate to him more.
343 lore is non-canon.
>>338264067
I thought Roland was pretty cool. Sacrificed himself for the greater good and didn't fucking betray you.
>obnoxiously sassy miniature sidekick
>haha what if everyone thought he was the hero and you were the sidekick
>haha this will never get old
>>338263791
I'm a sucker for tragic backgrounds
Amnesiacs can take a fucking hike though
>>338264617
>Implying Turks aren't the broest of the middle east.
