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So were you or were you not disappointed by these two final reveals?
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So were you or were you not disappointed by these two final reveals?

If so, what were you hoping for instead?
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is it that kind of smash thread again?

and we just had a very peaceful roster thread last night
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>>338260416
B-but Dark Pit is my secondary main and K. Rool was also my first choice for DLC.
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>anyone playing or caring about Tr4sh

kek
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>>338260548
you are a weird guy

you also want Medusa and Hades in Smash?
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Bayonetta should have been a newcomer in the base game, she would have been more hype but having her be the final DLC character made it feel lukewarm especially since that's what the ballot was leading up to even though she didn't technically win it.

Corrin is a bad choice in every aspect

I simply would have preferred any actual Nintendo new comer from a series that wasn't fire emblem
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>>338259834
I can understand Bayonetta, but I haven't been this disappointed to see an obscure character like Corrin make it in. I literally who'd when his reveal trailer played
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>>338260903
>she would have been more hype but having her be the final DLC character made it feel lukewarm especially since that's what the ballot was leading up to even though she didn't technically win it.
despite winning Europe, if the ballot was solely an election you'd have all the botted or dumb vote like Goku or Batman at the top over anybody else you've seen on neither unrealistic fan polls.

which it's was a suggestion poll, hence the whole realizable and negotiable factors being said on the ballot winner.

yes, i'm the guy who kept saying there wasn't going to be some sort of winner other than some middle ground. my apologies for my ruthless ballot policing.
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>>338260606
Believe it or not, Dark Pit's lack of effort and uniqueness is what justifies him in my eyes.

I think actually having dedicated time and effort into making him a unique fighter would have been even MORE biased/wasteful, when said time and effort could have gone towards another character from a series that didn't already have two or three representatives. No clue why people look at clones and their laziness as some sort of cancer on the roster.

That being said, no, Kid Icarus is fine at two unique dudes and one clone. Really don't think it warrants pouring time and effort into unique characters like Hades and/or Cree Summers when she wakes up in the morning.
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>>338261278
>despite winning Europe, if the ballot was solely an election you'd have all the botted or dumb vote like Goku or Batman at the top over anybody else you've seen on neither unrealistic fan polls.
you were pretty much right at the end
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I had no real hopes or expectations because I knew everyone I wanted would never get in

I got one character that's fun to play and one that had a great stage and music with them
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Never thought Bayonetta had a chance so I was pleasently surprised, being a bayofag and all
fuck corrin though
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>>338261340
>or Cree Summers when she wakes up in the morning.
forgot Numbuh 5's voice voiced Medusa in Kid Icarus: Uprising

thanks for the nostalgic reminder anon

>G:KND never ever
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>>338259834
bayo was actually one of my last choices because of how unfitting she is, but they handled her week and made her retire to character. Corin and every cocksucker that convinced sakurai to put that faggot in will be at the front of the line when the day of the rope comes
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>>338261586
handled her well and kept her true to character*
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>>338259834
Cloud doesnt belong in smash.
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>>338259834
I don't mind Bayonetta being in, but I really wish they didn't outright lie about it. If they wanted to add her, they could have just done it alongside one of the actual poll winners. I mean shit, they just added Cloud and Ryu on a whim while the poll was going on, so why not? But it was obvious they had to do something when they realised none of the poll winners were well-known in Japan, and for whatever reason that is the biggest deciding factor in Smash newcomers today, even though the game is more popular in the west. Which is why the next Smash being in different hands might be the best thing that could happen to the series.

As for Corrin...
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>>338261278
You seriously think that Goku would have made it in, also congratulations even though bayonetta wasn't even #1 in terms of video game characters or even Nintendo characters
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>>338261813
puristcucks don't matter in Smash
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>>338261860
>still in denial
She was at the top of each poll
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>>338259834
I was on /v/ laughing on a thread with the massive butthurt from the ballot and the massive bullshit that sakurai pushed in this game.
>another sword anime guy from FE
>has a counter
>damage control with Bayo
Still keking
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>>338261913
>You seriously think that Goku would have made it in
hell no, not a chance out side fanworks. Sakurai already said Mii Fighters is where all your dream non-vidya choices can happen.

http://sourcegaming.info/2015/07/07/mii-fighters/
>Sakurai: "Everyone Joins the Battle! Anyone Can Join the Fray!"
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>>338262035
You're saying an M rated video game character that's been around less than 6 years got more votes than any other character for a children's party game?
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>>338261860
>Which is why the next Smash being in different hands might be the best thing that could happen to the series.
i'm sure it will
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>>338262050
I don't mind sword guys so I didn't really mind Corrin being in but I knew /v/ was going to be devastated. The butthurt made it worthwhile
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>>338262050
If you didn't think Goku would make it in there's no reason for you to actually think who ever got the most votes would get in smash no matter what even if they weren't a video game character and even though sakurai already said no 4th party characters
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>WAAAAHHH TOO MANY FE REPS
you underage do know the series is a Nintendo main series now and will continue to grow, right?
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I don't like Bayonetta, only because I've never played her games so I couldn't really be excited for inclusion. Corrin is inexcusable as a 6th Fire Emblem rep, and Sakurai even doubted his inclusion but the rest of the dev team talked him into it. I was hoping for a more classic Nintendo character, someone to celebrate Nintendo's legacy, or failing that, a 3rd party rep at the same caliber as Mega Man or Cloud.
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>>338262267
Who is talking about Goku? I dont even touch the ballot, i know that nothing good is going to come
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>>338262131
you're implying internet polls from any biased as fuck is factual than the former?

Daisy and Chrom were listed high as fuck on any tumblrina poll
Reddit wanted SK and some shitty OC in Smash (the wii safety sihoulette guy, the meme died months after)
/v/ and NeoGAF were the only places that wanted Wonder Red
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I'm just glad Shovel Knight didn't get in.

>Muh amiibo
>Muh multi-plat indie rep
>Muh pogostick jumps
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>>338262412
I've never played a game in the series but Issac from Golden Sun is someone who I feel should have been included
If you are going to include another swordman why not from a series that hasn't been represented yet?
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>>338262035
>She was at the top of each poll

Anon you don't need to mindlessly defend your favorite game like a fanboy, because they even said bayonetta wasn't the poll winner. They said they couldn't (or didn't want to use) the poll winners because they were "unusable". So yeah, you can stop now.
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>>338262131
Bayonetta had a longer lasting stay than most of the dead franchises people wanted in or characters that haven't been relevant in the past 16 years or cancerous indie reps.

And the only characters I think that truly beat out Bayonetta was Snake and Wolf.


And the former was never gonna happen since Konami went full nuclear
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>>338262365
reminder that FE is a Major IP now
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>>338261340
>cree summers
kek
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>>338262492
You said top in each poll but now you're saying every poll that weren't on those sites?

Surely you can show me which polls she did win when even in the direct it said she only won in Europe
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>>338262503
>Tamaki kept shilling while damage controlling saying he's neutral on if it means Smash for him or not.
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>>338259834
Pretty much anyone else from donkey kong.
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I love Fire Emblem but even I feel Corrin/Kamui as a 2nd last DLC sucked.

I wanted Elma from Xenoblade X
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>>338262131
She certainly got more votes than Shantae or whatever other indie fuck people wanted, especially since Bayonetta 2 released like a year before
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I was really surprised it wasn't going to be an inkling considering how big splatoon got
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>>338259834
I was OH FUCK when I saw Bayonetta, I had no idea who Corrin was until like a week later.
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>>338262748
Clearly she did, but how about compared to any real character, also her game on wiiu didn't even sell that much
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They're both fun to play and enjoyable to play against. I am disappointed in another FE character, and feel the DLCs overall veered too far from adding longtime fan favorites who had yet to make it in.

I'm also a bit salty the fan voting that had so much hype around it amounted to literally fucking nothing.
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>>338262645
>You said top in each poll but now you're saying every poll that weren't on those sites?
tell it to the other guy, she did win Europe.

if the ballot wasn't also a suggestion poll, there no way she and the other Top 10 made through US with the realizable and negotiable factors being intact.
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>>338262847
>compared to any real character
just say you're butthurt because your special snowflake didn't make it in
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>>338262847
>but how about compared to any real character,
define that anon

because it sounds way too much like:
>my personal pick didn't made it in!
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I was hoping for something I might be more familiar with.
Maybe I'll end up liking Corrin when I play his game, but I don't have any system with Bayo anyway.
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>>338262873
You're just looking for an argument then because I never said anything about it not being a suggesting ballot just that I doubted the fact that she won every poll like the first post said . At least you're trying though
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>>338259834
I would've liked to see any other first party character to get in over Corrin, but I'm not that upset.
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>>338262873
>there no way she and the other Top 10 made through US with the realizable and negotiable factors being intact.
you know, i've wondered that...

who was the rest of the Top 10 chosen "US fighter ballot" characters?
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>>338259834

I still haven't bought them. I was only disappointed by Bayonetta because that's not who I wanted. I'm mostly just thinking about what the next Smash is going to do differently.
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>>338262913
What do you mean I got both Roy back and Cloud on

>>338262970
I'll define it as anyone who isn't an "indie fuck" like that guy said, also my personal pick was Roy so I'm pretty happy with that
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I was hoping for Jibanyan or some other Level 5 rep.
Yokai watch needs some sort of shot in the arm and there's already a lot of human-esque characters already, it would've helped add a bit more variety.
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>>338263083
Probably majority of it being garbage 4th Party joke votes, Steve from Minecraft, Vets and Snake.

Vets and Snake were the only legit ones but Sakurai probably wanted to do a new character.

K. Rool probably was in that group but I think that was mostly for to bring him in the next Smash game
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>>338263054
>I never said anything about it not being a suggesting ballot
then we don't need to argue then,

again, not the same guy, bayo won due to suggestion ballot reasons, not due to a sole amount of votes especially when she only won the European Fighter Ballot.

also, fan poll aren't super-reliable either because each site or section could be just as bias as the other.
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>>338263083
Most likely
Shrek
Goku
Saitama
Ridley
K Rool
Spongebob
Naruto
Kirito
Trump
Wolf
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>>338263407
>questioning-djimon-hounsou.gif
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>>338263083
>Goku
>Pepe
>Lonk
>Piccolo
>Batman
>Halo
>Moonman
>Bayonetta
>K.Rool
>Reggie

I'm sure I'm at least close.
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Shantae and Simon Belmont would've been perfect
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>>338263580
>>338263417
>>338263487
can't be 4th party shit or unrealistic votes like Snake since the final presentation said the realizable factored on those

remember that Bayonetta was part of the Top 10 too
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>>338263694
Precisely. Out of those retarded choices, the top 10 were probably horribly outvoted by Bayonetta, considering the swarms of memes and cartoon characters in the ballot are immediately trashed, and Bayo herself is a heavy hitter on par with the rest of them.
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>>338263694
>Unrealistic vote like Snake
You can fuck right off.
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>>338263694
They said she was number 1 among realizable characters, which means that the real winners were probably anime characters and memes
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>>338263814
>>338263616
are we all forgetting about the fallout with Konami and Kojima?
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>>338259834
Bayo being the last char got me a bit disappointed since I never liked the games, but Corrin was a good surprise to me, and she turned out fun too.
Really, all the DLC chars who weren't Roy were pretty great, and it speaks volumes about the main roster if the DLC was more exciting. Fuck Rosalina and Dark Pit, I'll never not be mad.
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>>338263814
Konami went nuclear and wild. Snake is unrealistic now
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>>338263616
>Shantaefags fell for Matt Bozon's ruse, getting their hope up
>will never ever stop being butthurt over Bayonetta
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>>338259834
Corrin is now one of my mains now. He is pretty much a lance user rather than a sword guy and Conquest was fun. Bayo is alright but I was a K.Rool guy
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I love Bayonetta, but I was hoping for some actual characters that fit with the original theme. Simon Belmont, Toad, even Rool. I still don't even get why Cloud or Ryu are in this.
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>>338264118
I voted for Shantae but I knew the chances of her actually making it were none. I don't know how anyone could actually think she had a big chance but it would have been a pleasant surprise if she did make it
Maybe that post was just shitposting seeing that he made that account just to post that
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>>338264365
>I still don't even get why Cloud or Ryu are in this.
because why not

if it's the "No Fighting Game characters" get up, that was a mistranslation people fell for. check here: sourcegaming.info/2015/07/10/sakurai-didnt-say-that/#[1]
if it's the "MUH NINTENDO HISTORY, TERRA'S BETTER THO" shit, see >>338261943
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>>338259834
Neutral on Corrin_____

Disappointed by Bayonetta__
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>>338259834
Very satisfied
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I was satisfied but they fucked up the order of releases

They should have released
Mewtwo FIRST
Lucas SECOND
Corrin and Roy THIRD as a 2 for 1 deal
THEN Bayonetta
THEN Ryu and Cloud as the final two
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When I first saw corrins design I thought they would be cool in smash but I wanted to be Smash 5. These were the last two characters before potentially years of waiting til a new game. Not really the time to add a literally who.

As for Bayonetta I don't really care. I wanted Bomberman but I saw a lot of people were happy with Bayo so I suppose I shouldn't be selfish.
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Never ever
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>>338265051
>Not really the time to add a literally who.
he was more of a "Literally When" like Roy. people knew him since Fates was announced worldwide and released in Japan
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Was disappointed by Bayonetta, love that Corrin was announced. I was hoping for Banjo honestly, considering Phil Spencer said he was cool with it. And, Cloud got in so I figured that would mean Banjo would have a much higher chance of getting in.
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>>338265159
at least he's in Crusade
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Smash needs more villians.
My glorious goddess deserves to be in the game more than that cheap knockoff Dark Pit.
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>>338265237
It's some comfort, I guess.
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>>338259834
They added Cloud, which far surpassed my expectations. They could've added Pichu and another Captain Falcon reskin for all I cared.
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>>338259834
Didn't like Corrin, but Bayonetta was nice
I was hoping for Marina or B&K
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>>338265287
>>338265159
>Smash needs more villians.
i agree

but if anything, keep trash like black shadow out of this.

we should know canondorf isn't likely to happen any time (other than another playable Ganon) and adding another shitty clone of the former as some "placehold" excuse wouldn't help anywhere at all.
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>>338265236
Seriously, why did people want Bayonetta in? Bayonetta's games aren't even good. They're button mashers, and yes, the same goes for Devil May Cry.
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>TP designs still used
>no Zelda newcomer this game
>has a trophy in game
>Hyrule Warriors just came out
>Hyrule Warriors Legends coming out
>TP HD coming out
>fans clamoring for more villains
>stars fucking aligned for Zant
>climaxes into nothing
>doomed to fade into obscurity where the Vaatifags live
I'm only slightly miffed.
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>>338265645
>Bayonetta's games aren't even good. They're button mashers, and yes, the same goes for Devil May Cry.
such a shitty argument. maybe they LIKE and ENJOY the games in their own terms

not everyone has to follow your tastes in video game anon.
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>>338259834
Incredibly disappointed, Bayonetta I didnt mind so much. But corrin killed it for me and my friends who have been playing the latest smash's since forever. None of us has even touched sm4sh since the announcement. Literally anyone else would have been better.
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>>338265776
Well then they should get better taste. I played like 2 hours of Bayonetta 2 and just hit Y for most of it. It's a boring game.
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>>338265678
Don't lose hope, anon! Marin's coming to HW, anything is possible!
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>>338265678
>Zeldafags still clamoring General Scales-tier zelda character have a shot in Smash.
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>>338263616
>Shantae
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>>338265957
at least most of them know their place, nothing real.

unlike a certain group of somebodies...
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>>338266069
That's one hell of a noblewoman' laugh collage.
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>>338259834
No, just Corrin.
Because instead of listening to the polls they decided to put a walking advertisement in.
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>>338265645
> dmc
> button masher

Well memed my friend.
http://youtu.be/RvCnPKJTQEs
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>>338266313
>le corrin was a ballot character meme
we get it, you're still butthurt about Dixie and K.Rool.
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>>338266420
No, I wanted Bayo and I got Bayo. Corrin is a literal shekel shaker. Nobody wanted him, he's a flat out advertisement
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>>338266330
cyka blyat
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>>338266536
>Nobody wanted him
Nintendo and developers don't count? don't even argue about "literal who" either >>338265168
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>>338259834
I was disappointed when they revealed corrin. Mostly because his/her reveal trailer was fucking cringe
Bayonetta was just really unexpected. Was expecting a k rool or dome other literal who.
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>>338266313
God I fucking hate Fire Emblem, why the fuck is a tactical RPG popular now? I thought Shining Force dying out was proof that the japs got sick of the genre or something. Or is it just because Camelot became a huge pile of shit?
Is it because of all the waifu faggotry? Can the gameplay/storylines really be that good?

In Brawl Snake was a walking advertisement for MGS4 (had MGS4 music in the game, resembled Big Boss) but at least he had an awesome moveset and wasn't an anime swordsman.
Fucking FE faggots with their all of their B-down counters, couldn't they at least map the some of the counters to side-B?

Corrin should have been replaced with Big Boss so they could promote MGSV and bring back the Snake moveset (maybe add a bit more CQC-like grabs/special moves). Sakurai and Kojima could get away with it by telling the Nintendo execs:
>D-daijobu, minna-san! MGS3 was on the 3DS, remember??
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>>338264118
>One shantaefag represents all shantaefags
Holy shit I mean i voted for Shantae, but even then I don't give a literal shit if she didn't make it or even didn't stand a chance, I got my two characters I wanted instead. At least I can set myself up for disappointment lol.
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>>338266985
>In Brawl Snake was a walking advertisement for MGS4 (had MGS4 music in the game, resembled Big Boss)
no he wasn't, dumb purist.

Kojima heavily wanted Snake to be in since Melee
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Never cared for Bayo but Fem-Corin is a goddess
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>>338267141
>plebian tastes
The best FE girl is Minerva
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>>338266985
>Snakefags still asshurt after Konami cockblocked their sneaking man from all sides
stay mad FE is a Major IP now over whatever DS/GBA-era you wanted to be big instead
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>>338267246
Best FE girl is Lucia tho
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>>338259834
I was unironically expecting a "Melee - Mode" of some sorts.
Severely disappointed of course. But i haven't been nintendos target audience since 2005, so it didn't bother me much.
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>>338267141
my bad wrong post
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>>338266985
>argues about the same bullshit another character had and yet holds bias for it because it was his favorite
every time, no wonder people don't take rosterfags seriously

also, pre-cancer Konami wanted Snake to be in Melee/Brawl. just like this anon pointed out >>338267139
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>>338265645

Button mashing isn't an excluded option in those games but putting it that simply is just asking to be proven wrong. Bayonetta and DMC stand at the top of the action game genre right next to Ninja Gaiden within extremely good reason. They're the three action game that pushed forward huge advances to the genre the most.
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>>338262154
That monkey eared fuck can go die in a hole. I can't wait for his Federation Force to only sell two copies, so he can be sent to work in the depths of the company.
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>>338268010
>I was unironically expecting a "Melee - Mode" of some sorts.
why would you? it wouldn't be as expected or good or as good as the sharp former anyways.
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>>338259834
>>338259834
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>>338268462
fuck off
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>>338268378
i wonder if he'll fuck up DKC alone next

he said he wanted the next 3D DK to be like 3D World in the future.
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Bayonetta was a terrible choice because they had to nerf her to bits
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>>338268513
Show me your feet
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>>338268384
Damn shame. Let us hope smash 5 wont be a lot like brawl again.
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>>338268710
>Let us hope smash 5 wont be a lot like brawl again.
got some bad news for you senpai-ma-lam
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>>338259834

Bayo was a fucking dream come true.
Best addition to the roster.
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>>338267586
Red > Blue
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>>338266330
Looks like a button masher to me also
>That garbage music
Jesus
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>>338270039

>Criticizing gameplay you know nothing about

Got a point on that garbage music though, that's pretty much every DMC video
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>>338270339
You've probably never played FE, yet you probably call every FE character in Smash a Marth clone.
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>>338270578

From what scope of your aspergers did you pull Fire Emblem into a post about DMC's gameplay
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>>338270928
Because this is a thread about the two Smash characters, that were chosen as the final branch of DLC, and I saw nothing but people complaining about Corrin on /v/ saying "ANOTHER FUCKING MARTH CLONE" and nothing but praise for a character from a shit series (Bayonetta)
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>>338262035
*of realizable characters."
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>>338271078

Okay fine but we were talking about DMC

In any case your assumptions are wrong on both accounts so good job
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>>338262365
Yeah, right after fully-pandering to the weeaboos. Before that, it was a nobody series that Ninty desperately tried to advertise in Smash.
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>>338271251
I didn't assume anything. I'm just stating DMC and Bayonetta suck because they do. They're button mashers. When I can kill enemies by just tapping Y, there's something wrong. The only good Platinum game was MGR because of how insane it was.
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>>338271351
>Yeah, right after fully-pandering to the weeaboos.
or it's home audience?
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>>338271390

>Where I can kill enemies by just tapping Y

This is stupid because every action game that has ever existed has had these in the beginning as sandbags. If you actually played either DMC or Bayo for more than 2 hours you'd realize there are enemies that force you around that.

At least make an attempt to show you played the games if you're going to pretend to be retarded.
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>>338271390
>>338265920

If you did nothing but press why in DMC or Bayonetta that reflects more on you than the game
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>>338271808
I said I played Bayo 2 for 2 hours and it bored the fuck out of me. How is that not proof enough?
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>>338271904

Because you're making the claim for DMC as well.

>inb4 they're the same!!

Only casuals, idiots, and people who haven't played the game think this. Bayonetta takes a lot more of a defensive approach than DMC, different property rulesets, and doesn't have nearly as much APM, nor timing strictness.
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>>338271904
You said all you did was hit Y
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>>338271390
Y is the fucking shoot button in bayo2
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>>338271390

>Bayonetta is reprehensible because it's a button masher
>Rising is good though

Oh man I needed that laugh
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>>338272419
I played it on a friend's Wii U, and for me it was attack, I think B was shoot. I don't remember off the top of my head since I played it like last year, but he said word for word "It's not for everyone."
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>>338259834
>didn't really want Corrin
>just wanted a fast swordfighter that can do more than just swing his sword
I'm okay with what we got
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>>338272491
Rising is good, it was absolutely batshit insane, and I loved it for that.
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>>338272419

Not him but you can revert the controls back to Bayo 1 in the options for 2

Thank goodness because the control change for 2 is unbearable going from the first game to the next
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>>338271550
Maybe, but there have been constant threads where many longtime FE fans despised the current #FE, waifu-marrying pop-idol shit the series headed towards.
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>>338271390
>Metal Gear Reddit
>only good Platinum game
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>>338272589
I got feet fetish.

Fucking /v/
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>>338272530
>>338272621
I haven't played in a while but I'm pretty sure you can't change the face buttons and the only difference is having lock on on ZL instead of R like 1 did
The position of the buttons is the same though, left for shooting, top for punches, right for kicks, bottom for jumping
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>>338272617

So was Bayonetta
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>>338259834
I was mad as piss about Corrin. I'm don't care about Sakurai's excuses nor the fact tha she has a somewhat unique moveset; I legit thought they would be done adding anime swordsmen after they brought Roy back.

Bayonetta is a rather pleasant surprise. I didn't care for her nor expect her to be in, but I'm sure a lot of people wanted her. I'm happy that they got their wish.
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>>338259834
>weeb advertisement for unreleased game and over-repped franchise
>femDante that wowed me, but was clearly Nintendo's easy-way-out of the ballot "of realizable characters".
>all those Mii costume relegations; Tails/Knux couldn't at least have proper heads

That said, Bayonetta was cool and Corrin handles really nicely (after nerfing that ridiculous counter). Still a shitty final direct though.
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>>338259834
Disappointed in Corrin.
Fucking hyped as shit for Bayonetta.
Then I remembered that I don't even play Sm4sh anymore so I didn't buy either.
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>>338271390

>Rising
>Only good Platinum game
>Unironically saying Bayo is a button masher yet says Rising is good
>Having this much of an uninformed opinion on the gameplay differences between Bayo 1 and 2
>DMC is a button masher because the gameplay looks like it even though I have no idea what's going on
>Proclaims to be a Fire Emblem fan which is relatively one of the poorest strategy games out there but thinking he can trash talk DMC when it made more strides in action as a series than any other accumulation of action games could hope to, all because you didn't like two hours of Bayo's more casual sequel
>Having such a garbage opinion you don't like Vanquish or The Wonderful 101

I don't normally say this but

Place a loaded magnum to your tongue and pull the trigger
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Why the fuck is Corrin barefoot?
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>>338271390
>>338270578

>"You've probably never played FE, yet you probably call every FE character in Smash a Marth clone."
>your assumptions are wrong
>I DIDN'T ASSUME, IT'S ALL LIES, I DINDU NUFFIN

Do you legitimately have some mental disability?
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>>338273445
I can list the Platinum games I played on 2 fingers
Bayo 2 and MGR
That's it. None of their other games appeal to me
W101 looks like it's made for Power Rangers fans, which is fine, I just don't like Power Rangers
Never even heard of Vanquish
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>>338274073
>making such bold statements about Platinum's games when you haven't even played the full spectrum of Platinum vidya
I don't even like the company much and I think you're retarded, especially advocating a Five Below bargain bin game like Rising.
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>>338274073

>Only played two Platinum games and then makes the assumption Rising is the only good game they ever had
>Played 2 hours of Bayonetta and assumed that Bayonetta is nothing more than a button masher and that by extension the entire DMC series must be as well

With the presumptuousness you turned out to have, your parents should have beat you. If they did they didn't do it hard enough.
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>>338259834
The roster can be damned after the game releases for all I care, because DLC is cancer in the first place. Proven by how good the chars are because babby has to feel validated by his purchase. The only reason they werent ALL bayonetta tier is so they can avoid scrutiny for being pay2win, which is what it is anyway.

What I was REALLY FUCKING hoping for was more control mechanics, nerfed recoveries, and removal of snap handholding ledges, aerial momentum conservation, and if you didn't want to give us perfect landing on button press like 64 and melee, at least remove the stat boosts from the smooth lander badge for fucks sake.

Then the game could have more depth than space airs and hoping for a confirm off of okies/hard reads, get the combos that SAKURAI LET YOU HAVE WITH NO FLEXIBILITY, then retreat to reset the neutral every 2 seconds after that because your combos end early so casual feelings dont get hurt. Then repeat for 5-7 mins until they fuck up escaping a okie so you get the fucking kill finally.

That's literally Sm4sh summarized ^. Every fucking match, every stage. Just camp and wait for a hard read based on your fake pressure that doesn't matter, do your guaranteed combos to a certain %, then play like a faggot till they're at KO %.

No combo freedom, no depth. Just playing like a floaty faggot for 8 mins.
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Where's the tourney thread?
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>>338263915
>want to play Fates as female corrin
>can't romance females as FemCorrin
shit sucks.
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>>338274073
>W101 looks like it's made for Power Rangers fans, which is fine, I just don't like Power Rangers

You write off games for the most petulant reasons.
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>>338272898
Bayonetta was a 3D beat-em-up.

Not that beat-em-ups are inherently bad. Dragon's Crown rules and that's a beat-em-up. It's just that Bayonetta in particular sucked.
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>>338275185

You're still not making it clear what sucked about it. Not that anyone will take your opinion seriously after playing for 2 hours.

Humor me, I assume you picked 2nd Climax.
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>>338275320
I played so much of Bayonetta, you don't even know.

I don't know what 2nd climax is though. Or maybe I do and I just don't remember. I don't know, I stopped playing after fighting the giant head snake lord boss. I was just so incredibly bored at that point that I had no motivation to keep going. It was like playing DmC, only not as fun and complex.
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Bayo was cool, and I still call the other person Literally Who.

Honestly, the only person I would've flipped my shit over would've been P3 or P4 protag.
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So is Bayonetta pretty much a Nintendo character at this point.
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>>338275624

Baiting was never funny and never will be.

You could've stopped before even the first post. Give it a rest, nobody is laughing and it's not even marginally entertaining.
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>>338259834
Corrin can fuck off. To me, he's a Smash character (Roy 2.0).
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>corrin
Trash

>Bayo
Awesome
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>>338275624
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I actually wonder if Sakurai wanted Snake to return, but Konami being Konami refused to play ball.
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>>338259834
With Bayo, yes, I love her games. And thank god she was nerfed.

With Corrin? I believe there were better options, like Elma from XCX, but whatever, her female version is hot.
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Less anime characters
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>No Wonder Red.
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>>338275958
I'm not that original guy though. I didn't like MGR either.

I mean, I liked it more than Bayo, but even then, I couldn't find the motivation to continue past Sundowner.
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>>338274007
Fetish-pandering.
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>>338275086
Mod your 3DS and download the big gay patch.
It's also adding new heterosexual life partner supports too for maximum comfy.
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>>338266186
>comparing Other"character assasination" M with Hunter and Prime 3

You're in a special place of retardation, aren't you?

Also
>I did a funny picture and that counts as an argument xD
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>>338277413
>wanting lesbian ships
Degenerate and it's not because you may or may not be gay, that doesn't make you one. What makes you one is being a waifufag/shipper
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>>338259834
>Corrin

Should've been saved for Smash 5 because of how much people complained over the amount of FE characters. I'd be fine with the amount if Lucina wasn't in.

>Bayo

Not my first choice for a new third party character but maybe my third or fourth. I thought Rayman was basically confirmed since he and other characters from his franchise had trophies.

Overall I'm fine with them.
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>>338277980
Yuri is the purest form of love.
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>>338278043
>People unironically want Rayman

He's only had like, 2 good games, and the first one was Origins.
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>>338265678
Let's be real here, there's no fucking way they would have put Zant in before Midna.
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>>338278462
I'm so glad Omni's fake Rayman leak virtually destroyed any chance of Rayman actually gaining traction in the ballot
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>>338278290
How did this meme became to be?
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>>338259834
I was angry as fuck about Corrin.

But then I was happy as fuck when Bayonetta won the ballot.

It was a rollercoaster. Thank you Sakurai.
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>>338263487
>>338263580
>People actually think realizable meant 4th party choices
It meant we handpicked Bayonetta because we already had this planned out months ahead. I'm not even being a whiny bitch about this, I'm just saying. No way they got those two done in such a short time, not when Hackurai cries about characters taking over a year to do.

But then again, I voted for K. Rool so what the fuck do I know? At least I can fall back on pic related.
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>>338259834

Corrin made me completely lose faith in sakurai. It's like hitting rock bottom, so none else can make me more disappoint.
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>>338261813

If Corrin can get in, anyone can get in. Stop caring about the "Roster integrity" that's no longer even there anymore. They might as well ad goku at this point.
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>>338259834
Corrin I was angry about. Bayonetta I liked. I'm still angry about no Snake. I also felt they could've added Elma from XCX instead of that who from FE.
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I was hyped as fuck for Bayonetta.

Corrin was a waste of a slot, Fire Emblem can stand on its own and some other franchise could have been put in for advertising.

I'm just pissed that Wolf didn't come back, despite being popular and fun and was so easy to make it was the reason he was in Brawl along with his popularity and Star Fox Zero was in development so more advertising. But this is Sakurai, who couldn't be assed to update the Zelda characters because Ganondorf and Sheik weren't in Skyward Sword and he can't have characters from one franchise having different designs across the series.
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>more anime nip nonsense

I'm casual as fuck and I just want to be a cartooney vidya character and bash the shit out of things
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>>338274792
The only good DLC character is Cloud

Just play Melee or PM senpai

There's nothing inherently wrong with a more neutral based game. If you want a more combo based game then Melee and PM are great. While Smash 4 has some issues, you're focusing on the wrong ones. Really, there just needs to be more movement options.
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>>338284994
Oh right and Ryu. I forgot about him. Corrin isn't even top 10, maybe not even top 15 so that's not really pay to win.
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>>338271078
Probably because gameplay aside, it's FE having more than enough reps + a character from a then-unreleased title, versus a known visually-different one from a another series.

Also your preference isn't any less subjective.
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>>338259834
Bayonetta's okay but Corrin is a total fucking waste.
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>>338261860
>and for whatever reason that is the biggest deciding factor in Smash newcomers today
Nintendo suffers from the usual Japanese-superiority ego, and wants to remain inclusive about it.
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