So can we all agree that this game is utter shit?
>out of all the 80 classes only 5 or 6 are worth the time because the rest suck dick
>you can't grind if it's not in dungeons
>quest after quest after quest after quest
>actually pay2win
RO is dead and no game could revive it.
MMOs will never be good
>>338244212
>mfw I got a blowjob from a girl so she could get a beta code
nothing better than a sad loser girl nerd
>>338244403
>>>/facebook/
>>338244403
>"things that never happened"
What I can't stand about this fucking game is how it was marketed.
"The spiritual successor of Ragnarok Online" my ass.
I made a hunter recently.
Hunters are bugged to shit. If coursing or retrieve (2 stun skills) kill a monster before their 7-14 second durations your pet is just stuck there until the duration finally ends. Very frequently your pet will lose the ability to move, and although it uses skills it rubberbands back to its original spawn point so you have to re-summon him every 20 steps in dungeons. Also for some reason you can't heal your pet during dungeons, health or stamina losing out on 80% of your damage.
For some reason pet equipment is a cut feature from the game despite your pets gaining negligable stats on their own. If you don't pay literally trillions of dollars to the pet trainer it will never be 1/64 as strong as any player meaning it always hits for 1 damage when you aren't using skills and dies instantly whenever a monster looks in its general direction. There's no way to command your pet aside from using skills so until you get perma-fear at rank3 your pet instantly walks into every group of enemies and dies immediately. Additionally this means it'll never intentionally tank hits for you even at early levels.
But fuck man, at least I'm not playing a bokor who'll waste 20 skill points and 3 ranks, because zombies are so garbage, just for synergy with plague doctor at level 240 something. And at least I'm not playing anything in the swordsman tree. Swordsmen exist to cast swashbuckling and then fuck off while the actual party kills monsters. The only good thing is that as long as you take Peltasta 1 you can do literally anything or nothing else and be set for party/dungeon play. At level 200 pelt 1 who never upgraded to any other class is equally as valuable as a dragoon or whatever.
>>338244904
>tfw I rolled a swordy 1- peltasta 2-rodelero 3- templar 1
I know true pain.
I love Cattly!
>>338244212
so what are the classes?
>>338244993
I thought rodelero was super cool and planned on doing almost the same thing with my first character. But as early on as hoplite it was taking too long to ever try and kill enemies without stabbing.
Of course that's before I realized the game is balanced around having cafrisun armor, sacrament, blessing, and an arde dagger.
>>338245321
>and an arde dagger
I legit quit the game after 20+ runs on my lvl 120 rodelero because everyfucking one wants to do the entire run instead of rushing the boss.
I HAVE 20K HP FOR FUCK SAKE JUST FOLLOW ME AND KILL THE FUCKER
>>338244212
wait what's pay2win about it?
>>338245415
Maybe because they want the exp you dumb faggot.
>>338245527
Maybe the game shouldn't pair you with people 20 levels under yours.
Or shouldn't locate a endgame item in a lvl 90 dungeon when the max level is 270.
>>338245415
That sucks. I only ran it a couple times in the beta but the layout is pretty tedious. I was sick of it the 3rd time, forget spending 10 or more actual days of my life going through the whole thing.
>>338245527
It's not an exp dungeon. The way the game works you have your first big power boost at level 15 where you get the one set of armor you're going to use until 200 something and then at 90 when you get the arde dagger. Together they triple your damage output and you absolutely need them when you're fighting enemies with 100k HP using skills that don't really scale with your stats.
People who just want exp have all the options in the world.
>>338246027
What were you playing?
Anything that's not a mage is tedium incarnate.
I think that they should have added a 5th branch, either Rogue or something similar that relies on solo play because let's be honest, no class has enough damage output past lvl 200 to go alone except elementalists.
>>338246190
At the time I was playing Thaumaturge with cryo/kino for the damage. All my stats were in CON because I thought transpose wouldn't be garbage and I wasn't lucky enough to get the arde dagger. Every couple minutes I was pretty strong and I beat the living shit out of everyone else in PvP because I was basically invincible but the majority of the time enemies just had so much HP that I could not deal with them.
>>338245295
Huge variety, cool names, all same fucking shit, barely any difference in gameplay. Like, 4 skills per class per circle, +3 more on second and third circles combined. A bunch of passives +1% to damage to "this"
Every minute i'm playing this shit i'm just thinking about playing RO instead. At least i know i can make brewing alchemist there and he will be good at brewing, or battle alchemist and he will be different from monk in not just colour of particles he shits out
I already saw that during the closed beta
>>338246367
>Cryo/Kino
>Damage
Also, Transpose is one of the best skills in the game if you stack Int because it will also move over the Bonus Int allowing a Thaumaturge to easily have 80k HP.
>>338244657
This. They literally called it Project R1 for years and then got mad when people asked why it isn't like RO.
>>338245016
I left /tosg/ a month into the early access. Endgame was just too shitty. So Cattly ended up joining when it went f2p and now attentionwhores like before? Blogpantsu still the most prolific guild leader? Did the erp and drama take over yet?
>>338246027
It's an xp dungeon whenever you hit 90, kys fag
>>338246704
For the longest time it was good damage, but yeah.
Transpose just isn't good the other way around because it doesn't keep the percentage of your health the same. I did a better job killing myself when transpose ended and I was missing 90% of my health than any enemy could between blocking everything and freezing everything I couldn't block.
>no reason to group up
>no difficulty
Should make everything glass cannons, increase spawn timers by 500%, make all mobs hostile on sight
>>338244993
How is Templar? I am planning to go Tank with Con/Dex rolling Sword > Petalsta C2 > Rodelero C2 > Fencer C2
>>338247019
Transpose has a duration longer than it's cooldown.
You transpose with Transpose on and it refreshes Transpose and doesn't send your HP back to the Shit-Hole.
You don't do it for Damage, you do it to have 150k HP and laugh as the peasants try to murder you and can't put a dent into your massive body and your Party Priest heals you for 30k+ each Mass heal and around 8k each heal tile.
For PvP, you start off transposing, the party cleric lays down healing tiles to heal you up, then you just keep refreshing transpose and cc the fuck out of the enemy team while buffing everyone.
>>338247156
>No C3
In PvP, without a C3, no CC will stick because a Plague Doctor will just use Bloodletting which ignores all CC that isn't from a C3 class.
Because you are going tank, your main job in PvP is to CC otherwise you are useless as fuck and can only PvE which is easy enough to do anyway.
>>338245482
>Nexon
That says it all anon.
>Nexon
it was doomed from the start bruh
>>338244212
My friend literally can't stop playing this. I quit after I realized the entire game was going to be the same as the beginning just with a few new spells as you level up
>never played RO
>roll a cleric in ToS, have no idea what I'm doing
>fooling around some road, see a statue and go pray to it
>huge mushroom out no nowhere, it summons little mushs
>fight takes ages to complete, still sorta intense
>any boss afterwards seems too easy
>at lv20 now and still no fucking idea what I'm doing
>>338244212
If it took you this long to realize it you must've missed the first two betas.
Fucking IMC defense force keeps insisting they'll fix it or make it better but it's clear the game needs a complete overhaul.
Even the way stats work is retarded, defense is pointless and most classes pump a single stat for PvE and any skill that isnt a buff or multihit is pretty much worthless.
>>338247316
>Bloodletting
Fuck plague doctors
welp guess I am gonna go C3 Rodelero, thanks anon
>>338244212
>out of all the 80 classes only 5 or 6 are worth the time because the rest suck dick
I don't get it, it was pretty obvious this was going to happen, way more people should have seen it coming.
>>338246027
Fuck off, the level 90 dungeon is great exp. Make a party specifically for rushing like everyone else and stop being mad because you're a retard.
>>338247198
I believe you that its good, but I'm just saying I was a full CON thaum using it for the damage. Way back before anyone knew what was going on.
>>338247318
The actual devs are worse than Nexon. The prices in their cash shop are absolutely disgusting. Like $30 for a hairstyle you can only use on one character and playing the enchant scroll lottery so your costume slot can have really great stats that other people don't have access to. Even if you pay the monthly fee you have to complete collections in order to have more than 1 storage slot to trade items between your own characters.
>>338247734
Some people were saying that from the start, but others didnt want to listen.
They thought that all builds would actually end up being viable.
>>338245634
>Or shouldn't locate a endgame item in a lvl 90 dungeon when the max level is 270.
Try a Lv 40 rod that you are stuck with if you're Cryo until you get to your next support/CC job. That +1 to all Cryo skills should've been on an accessory like in XI.
>>338246027
>you get the one set of armor you're going to use until 200
name? i pretty new to the whole tos thing
>>338244212
It tries so hard to rope in the RO nostalgia crowd but it fails in every aspect:
>99% of classes are not viable unlike in RO
>Game is linear as fuck unlike in RO
>Have to have a premium subscription to do anything unlike in RO
>Grind is somehow even worse than RO
I like how after the international beta literally all hype for the game died and the few people still sucking its dick tried to go
>Y-y-you just want another WoW dumb c-casual...
>>338248143
Capri Sun
>>338248143
Cafrisun gives you +1 to all stats and +12 earth damage. But not just 12 more damage it's like an extra hit at the end of every attack that gets affected by all your buffs.
If you normally hit for 100 + 12
with blessing you hit for like 200 + 212
and sacrament is another hit 200 +212 +230
And they all come with the added bonus of each damage type doing more damage to certain monsters. Since sacrament gives you holy damage, with that setup you'll 1 hit everything in the level 30 dungeon.
Only the music that isn't 5 different versions of UNTZ holds up and that's not saying much because they're so good they hide how bland the game is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0B5tgr9WfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVkuSb0q12k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVwthdlvui8
>>338248382
thank you anon
>>338248475
thank you for the in-depth explanation going to srautas gorge right now
>>338245634
Maybe you should try making a party of people who want to do a boss rush instead of using the random matchmaking and hoping everyone wants to do what you want to do you retarded faggot.
>>338244212
Atleast RO private servers and jRO exist and have decent amount of playerbase.
>>338248938
What's special about jRO anyway? I thought no one liked Renewal.
>>338248938
iRo itself is fine.
played that not too long ago and it was MUCH better than this.
>>338248987
Super populated and good community. Also Renewel has long since fixed the issues people bitch about while also bringing better class skill and build viability for PvP and WoE.
>>338249161
iRO has community problems, especially for PvP related activities, and their servers are some serious shit and somehow keep getting worse every few months. Also 4 years behind on content.
Who the fuck actually likes questing?
>>338244212
The game is cool actually (for now, I'm lvl 120), the problem is the insane lag, constant fps drops, bugs, messy keybindings and some utterbullshit such as the "if I lasthit the mob the kill is mine" and other old as fuck and retarded mechanics that every MMO abandoned because they're outdated as hell.
>Pick Quarrel Shooter as first advancement
>All skills are fucking shit for pve with high SP costs and CD
I just give up at this point, what's the point in making skills so shit for leveling?
>>338253031
Go C3 Quarrel Shooter and Archer 3.
You now have insane auto-attack speed thanks to being able to use Kneeling Shot and Running Shot at the same time.
>>338247156
>how is templar
Pure suffering.
GVG sucks dick, its nothing like RO's WoE, your only function is to make a guild for people to dick around with their hahamen builds.
Imagine being that guy that owns a big house and everybody just go there but they never clean anything, that's a templar for you,
>>338249589
Did it actually somehow threw whole Transcenshittery out the window?
>grind 99 levels till you're 70 years old cripple
>now drop to level 1 and grind again, now to level 150
I was really looking forward to this game because Ragnarok Online was my first MMO ever.
I hadn't followed it too much because I never like following games that aren't going to be out forever. I had watched some trailers and stuff in the past to know that it looked somewhat like Ragnarok Online but I didn't closely follow it at all.
Finally got my hands on it to play when it went F2P and I was beyond disappointed. It seems like the entire game goes out of its way to piss you off and make you not want to play it, straight down to the absolutely garbage naming system.
It's a kusoge down to the very core. I've never been more disappointed with an MMO in my life. Couldn't even get myself to play it much after I created my character.
>>338254773
Same.
I tried RO when I was 10 years old, my cousin hosted a private server and I played that shit for 5 years maybe.
After it closed, and I met my current gf, we found another private server and played for 1 year or so. We had the time of our lives.
We recently bought ToS and it was great until you reach level 120-130, then the game becomes a parody of itself.
>kill x enemies
>retrieve x bags
>talk to x npcs
>kill boss
>repeat
There's no freedom, no variety. Even if you play every available class it's just the same linear story.
Hell, if I wanted to lvl up a mage in RO I would go to Einbroch, if I wanted to lvl up a thief I would rush to wolves in payon.
We are unironically waiting for my cousin to re-open his server so we can play RO again.
ToS is the blunder of the century.
>>338255074
Sorry to hear you were disappointed too. But I'm happy for you that you met your gf and have had so many good times on RO.
>>338255074
All of ROs content wasn't added at once anon
The game has nothing going for it except the artstyle and OST.
>>338255289
Thanks, my boy.
>>338255383
Yeah and Im not saying "this game will never be good" but it had far too much marketing and plagued the media with promises of something that gave high expectations to the people that played RO or just found out about the game.
The game is basically a beta even though it already launched it.
>>338255383
ROs world was much wider right from the start though.
You always had multiple cities with multiple hotspots.
