Hey guys, since NewDoom is a hot topic, lets talk about what source ports.
I used ZDoom to play 1 and 2 a while back, though I'm considering trying Chocolate Doom to play the Master Levels and Final Doom.
What do you guys think?
I just use Zandronum.
Does this have any weight?
I want to play DOOM, what are the best source ports?
>>338210564
Zdoom
ZdoomZdoom
ZDoom is the most inaccurate but has holds pretty much all the active modding community
Zandronum is just an older zdoom with multiplayer focus
PrBoom Plus is pretty nice if you want something accurate and newish
It also has the best demo playback
Chocolate Doom would be the most accurate, but sticking with 320x200 is retarded
Dosbox is an option if you want to go through the trouble, you can play at 640x400 with an average PC.
Zandronum for multiplayer, GZDoom for everything else.
>>338211192
Is there a difference between GZDoom and ZDoom?
I think I have GZdoom installed
>>338211464
OpenGL
>>338211065
>ZDoom is the most inaccurate
Vavoom exists.
>>338210564
Chocolate Doom is the only one worth using.
I use gZdoom, I think? So I could play the absolute clusterfuck mods, IE, DoomRPG andAeons of Death
>>338209891
I just use Gzdoom and make sure things like full mouselook and other gameplay changes are off
I really don't fucking care how the graphics differ from the dos port
Why the fuck is Doom 2 so hard?
I just wanted to play through it on Ultra Violence but its get so tiring to play through. So many enemies.
I use Chocolate Doom for original game accuracy and GZDoom for pwads and stuff.
>>338212617
The only part I found difficult was Icon of Sin, because it kept spawning Archviles.
>>338212305
If you just want everything on that list, download this.
https://yadi.sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ
Personally, I'd recommend DoomRL, Project Brutality, Demonsteele, Reelism and DoomRPG.
>>338212708
I haven't played in years. Does it really? Archvile spam is bullshit.
>>338212130
new version
I'd use Chocolate Doom for stuff designed without mouselook in mind, like Master Levels and Final Doom, I also think Doom looks best with the original rendering, the modern renderers soften everything and it really looks funky
But yeah, there's no reason to be using full mouselook in the original ID made maps, WADs and shit yeah, Master Levels no
I like playing Doom as original as possible. I played chocolate doom for awhile but lately been using doomretro as it's a little less fuss and better conforms to modern monitors. Just my take though.
>>338209891
>though I'm considering trying Chocolate Doom to play the Master Levels and Final Doom.
Do it. It changes the game more than people think. The low resolution hides pinkies extremely well and you'll get proper era support for how everything operated.
Do still use mouse+keyboard. You could still configure wasd or other such configurations even during those days, some people at least used similar setups. Most of the demos that the game flips through are played using the mouse for aiming.
Are there any active servers that play multiplayer doom?
>>338214247
>hides pinkies
I mean specters. Invisible pinkies. Damned hard to see in the original. On modern ports they're basically just shimmering pinkies that might as well be any other enemy.
>>338214971
Check ZDaemon/Zandronum. Been a couple years since I played on either, but they usually have some active servers, though usually more for co-op than deathmatch/ctf
>>338213042
It's random, but there's still a chance.
>>338210564
the standard is zdoom.
if you can't ass yourself to configure to play like the 1993 experience, then just do chocolate doom.
if you really want to play it like in 1993, dosbox
gzdoom allows for fancy things but the filters absolutely rape graphics.
Zandromum and it's older cousin skulltag where multiplayer minded ports
just remember the making ports for doom is a hobby almost in an on itself. the standards for playing the game have always been zdoom, gzdoom and zandronum
>>338211065
What changes does G/Zdoom have?
I turned off free look, crouching, and jumping because I wanted a more authentic experience, but is there more than that?
>>338215909
for gameplay, nah. gzdoom rapes visuals tho', you'll deprive yourself of pixel goodness
also if you actualloy like the engine and start downloading wads, both zdoom and gz are must haves
>>338216313
But you can play with unfiltered sprites. The most I ever used was trilinear, none of those "high quality" filters
>>338215909
I don't have the file right now, but there's a custom map that show some of the engine inconsistencies.
For example, after teleporting and walking over a tiny gap would make you fall in zdoom but not in the original game.
>>338216741
metroid deadnought is a fucking awesome wad but it starts off easy, gets pretty tough and then you hit a critical mass of upgrades and it gets piss easy again.
Still fun as fuck though, the long beam is super satisfying, I wish it was rainbow colored like the hyper beam in super metroid
>>338213886
>>338212130
Thanks a lot!
>>338209891
what port can let me enjoy nuts.wad without lagging?
i cant stand the 1 fps powerpoint
>>338219239
Doesn't matter which, it'll still run like shit if you've got a shit PC.
Doomsday is a pretty decent source port if you want the old game with more modern graphics.
I'd like to play Doom on a recent modern engine, but I can't seem to find anything like that
>>338219329
but the wad was made in 2001, then whats the point if nobody could play it for 10+ years?
>>338219508
Read the inforgraphics posted earlier in the thread, it was a jokewad.
>>338213886
>>338212130
>Russian Overkill
>Ketchup
>Doom Metal
>OBLIGE map with monsters set to NUTS and lost souls + pain elementals disabled
How can something become so fun.
>>338219239
PrBoom+ handles it fine.
>>338209891
How is this game so fun?
All other shooters bore me but this andSplatoonmake me always have a good time when playing it.
>>338209891
any way to play old doom with super fancy graphics? like crazy shading and shit doesnt have to be 3d.
>>338209891
if you're gonna play the master levels in chocolate doom you're gonna have to use the command line every single time, it's annoying
or you could use this launcher: http://pastebin.com/PYgydFRW
copy it to notepad and save as .bat
it's completely safe, I wrote it myself
for it to work you need to put your main wads (doom.wad, doom2.wad, etc.) in a "wads" folder inside the chocolate doom folder, and the master level wads in "masterlevels" folder inside the wads folder
>>338223054
oh also the .bat needs to be in the chocolate doom folder too
I remember hearing somewhere that someone was making a SS13 mod.
Anyone know about it?
>>338220698
It's because Doom is a reskinned top-down shooter. Doom and Splatoon both avoid a lot of the trappings of the genre, which is probably why you find them so fun.
are the versions of doom 1&2 that come with doom 3 bgf good?
>>338209891
GZDoom is really good. Doesn't have that weird warping affect that ZDoom has but still has all the same features and options.
>just want to play the_hotel from years ago
>the one with the floating ghost in the maze
>tfw can't fucking find it
>every link on every video and every database seems to be dead
Fuck.
>>338209891
chocolate doom is pretty gud.
>>338223623
I wouldn't say it's a reskinned top-down shooter as much as it's the next logical step for the top-down shooter.
>>338223054
I should modify that launcher to use "%~n1" for drag and drop and then ask warp level and difficulty.
>>338222030
Brutal Doom?
>>338211065
>Dosbox is an option if you want to go through the trouble, you can play at 640x400 with an average PC.
Or you can just use Crispy Doom
Be honest.
How bad did Ancient Aliens hurt your butt?
>>338223774
Are any of these the file you're looking for?
>>338209891
I have doom 3 bfg with doom 1 & 2 on steam can I still mod doom 1?
>>338224632
I don't know. It's the maze one that's super dark.They're great for multiplayer.
what do you guys use to play doom 2 online?
>>338223980
it already warps you to the right level for the master levels
>>338209891
CN DOOM
Chocolate DOOM
prboom
ZDOOM
gzDOOM
zandronum
Odamex
Just fucking pick one. I like CN Doom and Chocolate Doom personally. some wads like pirate doom need zdoom. just get zdoom if you're a colossal newfag.
>>338225637
You seem to not have read my post. Please do so before responding.
>>338226008
also crispy doom
>>338224673
Yeah, though most of these aren't mods. Before they were killed and had their corpse dragged through public by Zenimax Id used to release the source code of all of their games so these tend to be updated versions of the game engine that you just have to copy the game files for.
Even Doom 3 has projects to keep it up to date like dhwem. Though unfortunately that's the last generation of Id games to have their engines opened. Which means newer Id games will wind up having problems running on newer systems in a decade.
>tfw don't even remember how to set up a custom map
Is there a way to play zandronum coop without port forwarding? Fucking Time Warner closes all of the ports
>>338228838
Get a VPN. Then you can connect to it and it can tunnel all the traffic to you.
>>338229286
Oh shit, I never thought of that. Thx anon
>>338228838
Host a game on one of the automated hosting services like Best-Ever. The connection quality will be much better, and you won't have to fuck with ports at all.
>>338229454
Oh shit, that's much simpler. Thanks anon
>>338227373
(gz)doom.exe -file wadname.wad
